Comments on: Pain Poll: The Staff Of 5 Oz. Breaks Down UFC 89 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/17/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-ufc-89/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 15:31:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/17/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-ufc-89/comment-page-1/#comment-53813 Rich S. Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:51:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7935#comment-53813 well, if Leben fights Bisping like he fought Terry Martin, we could have a really interesting matchup.. but if he fights him like he fought Sakara, He's in for a looooooong night.. Bisping is way faster, way lighter on his feet, and he says he feels way more powerful.. and as far as i can tell, he proved that against McCarthy [which isn't really a big deal, because McCarthy's lame] and Jason Day [which is a pretty big deal] in the Sakara fight, Bisping reverted back to his old gameplan, which is to swing for the fences.. he took sooooo many unnecessary shots in that bout, and got a nasty cut over his eye, simply because he didn't WANT to block.. if he fights Bisping like that, Bisping will go straight down the middle, and just school Leben all night.. On the other hand, if Leben fights Bisping like he fought Terry Martin, we could see a KO on Leben's part.. In the Martin fight Leben was very technical with his striking, and showed improvement in his ground game.. it was a shame to see him degress in the Sakara fight [despite winning] as for all the Vera-hatin'.. i know Jardine's good.. and he's beaten some really good people.. but Vera IS the real deal, and reguardless of who he was fighting, he had some brutal knockouts with kicks, and knees from the clinch.. i think sometime mid-2nd-round, after being frustrated all first round, Vera's going to throw a head kick that catches Jardine, and pounce.. well, if Leben fights Bisping like he fought Terry Martin, we could have a really interesting matchup..

but if he fights him like he fought Sakara, He’s in for a looooooong night..

Bisping is way faster, way lighter on his feet, and he says he feels way more powerful..

and as far as i can tell, he proved that against McCarthy [which isn't really a big deal, because McCarthy's lame] and Jason Day [which is a pretty big deal]

in the Sakara fight, Bisping reverted back to his old gameplan, which is to swing for the fences..
he took sooooo many unnecessary shots in that bout, and got a nasty cut over his eye, simply because he didn’t WANT to block..

if he fights Bisping like that, Bisping will go straight down the middle, and just school Leben all night..

On the other hand, if Leben fights Bisping like he fought Terry Martin, we could see a KO on Leben’s part..

In the Martin fight Leben was very technical with his striking, and showed improvement in his ground game..

it was a shame to see him degress in the Sakara fight [despite winning]

as for all the Vera-hatin’..
i know Jardine’s good..
and he’s beaten some really good people..
but Vera IS the real deal, and reguardless of who he was fighting, he had some brutal knockouts with kicks, and knees from the clinch..
i think sometime mid-2nd-round, after being frustrated all first round, Vera’s going to throw a head kick that catches Jardine, and pounce..

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]]> By: randy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/17/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-ufc-89/comment-page-1/#comment-53770 randy Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:18:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7935#comment-53770 I cant wait to see the marcus davis fight. I love to watch that dude stand and bang in the ring (punches not porn stars) There are a few quality fights here. Is ther eanywhere to watch it live online? I cant wait to see the marcus davis fight. I love to watch that dude stand and bang in the ring (punches not porn stars) There are a few quality fights here. Is ther eanywhere to watch it live online?

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]]> By: David Andrest http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/17/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-ufc-89/comment-page-1/#comment-53740 David Andrest Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:34:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7935#comment-53740 Jackyl, you are completely entitled to your theory. I happen to think the majority of the difference is cage vs. ring. When you have the ability to cut off an opponent, the fight is a completely different one. Then factor in rules, match ups ect........ It doesn't really surprise me. As far as Wanderlei's size, he doesn't appear smaller to me, but again that is just my opinion. Jackyl, you are completely entitled to your theory. I happen to think the majority of the difference is cage vs. ring. When you have the ability to cut off an opponent, the fight is a completely different one. Then factor in rules, match ups ect…….. It doesn’t really surprise me. As far as Wanderlei’s size, he doesn’t appear smaller to me, but again that is just my opinion.

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]]> By: thndrstrk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/17/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-ufc-89/comment-page-1/#comment-53739 thndrstrk Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:21:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7935#comment-53739 I just noticed you said recently but still he has fought tougher fights than Bisping by far. Jason Day and Charles McCarthy? I mean c'mon. If Leben can deal with Bisping's speed he will finish him. I think that we're all going to see the best Chris Leben we've ever seen and Bisping's not ready for that. I just noticed you said recently but still he has fought tougher fights than Bisping by far. Jason Day and Charles McCarthy? I mean c’mon. If Leben can deal with Bisping’s speed he will finish him. I think that we’re all going to see the best Chris Leben we’ve ever seen and Bisping’s not ready for that.

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]]> By: thndrstrk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/17/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-ufc-89/comment-page-1/#comment-53738 thndrstrk Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:19:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7935#comment-53738 Leben hasn't beaten anyone significant in the divison? How about beating Cote who is challenging for the title? Is that not considered significant? Leben hasn’t beaten anyone significant in the divison? How about beating Cote who is challenging for the title? Is that not considered significant?

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]]> By: Jackyl http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/17/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-ufc-89/comment-page-1/#comment-53732 Jackyl Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:11:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7935#comment-53732 Ever notice that NO ONE is the animal they were in Pride. I know it's pretty much baseless but I still think they were a little lax with the roids over there. Watch some of the old Pride shows, all those guys are just totally ripped. They also seemed to have a killer instinct that is all but absent in their UFC appearances. The list goes on: Rampage, Henderson, Cro Cop, Wanderlei Silva, Shogun, etc. They all just seemed to have so much fire in their Pride fights. But in their UFC appearances that fire is not there. Granted Wanderlei looked great against Jardine but don't you think he looks a little smaller? Ever notice that NO ONE is the animal they were in Pride. I know it’s pretty much baseless but I still think they were a little lax with the roids over there. Watch some of the old Pride shows, all those guys are just totally ripped. They also seemed to have a killer instinct that is all but absent in their UFC appearances. The list goes on: Rampage, Henderson, Cro Cop, Wanderlei Silva, Shogun, etc. They all just seemed to have so much fire in their Pride fights. But in their UFC appearances that fire is not there. Granted Wanderlei looked great against Jardine but don’t you think he looks a little smaller?

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]]> By: KTru http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/17/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-ufc-89/comment-page-1/#comment-53725 KTru Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:15:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7935#comment-53725 because 2 out of 3 do not buy into the Bisping hype train because 2 out of 3 do not buy into the Bisping hype train

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]]> By: Sabotage http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/17/pain-poll-the-staff-of-5-oz-breaks-down-ufc-89/comment-page-1/#comment-53721 Sabotage Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:13:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=7935#comment-53721 I am surprising 2 out of the 3 of you took Leben. Bisping has the superior game across the board, but I truly do hope the Crippler gets to smash a cat in Birmingham tomorrow night. I am surprising 2 out of the 3 of you took Leben.

Bisping has the superior game across the board, but I truly do hope the Crippler gets to smash a cat in Birmingham tomorrow night.

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