Comments on: Postcard from the Couch: UFC 89 – Bisping vs. Leben http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/20/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-89-bisping-vs-leben/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:04:09 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Patrick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/20/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-89-bisping-vs-leben/comment-page-1/#comment-54231 Patrick Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:27:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8105#comment-54231 What the hell alternate universe are you from? And can you please go back? What the hell alternate universe are you from?

And can you please go back?

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]]> By: rutrow http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/20/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-89-bisping-vs-leben/comment-page-1/#comment-54222 rutrow Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:26:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8105#comment-54222 R.I.P. UFC 11/12/93 – 10/18/08 The UFC which started out as “no holds barred” during UFC 89 when dodging your opponent, fighting for the scorecard, and planning to let the judges determine the fight became accepted practice by the UFC. After winning the main event of UFC 89 by decision, Michael Bisbing made the following comment about his win in the event's featured fight: “It was a tough fight,” said Bisping. “That was the whole gameplan, take my time, stick and move, and get a unanimous decision.” The UFC supports this direction in the sport and will make Bisbing a coach in the next The Ultimate Fighter series. Bisbing should have confidence in the judges' scorecard considering the judges handed him his win in UFC 75 over Matt Hamill but this type of fighting is no more entertaining than watching boxing. All good things end. So long UFC! R.I.P. UFC 11/12/93 – 10/18/08

The UFC which started out as “no holds barred” during UFC 89 when dodging your opponent, fighting for the scorecard, and planning to let the judges determine the fight became accepted practice by the UFC.

After winning the main event of UFC 89 by decision, Michael Bisbing made the following comment about his win in the event’s featured fight:

“It was a tough fight,” said Bisping. “That was the whole gameplan, take my time, stick and move, and get a unanimous decision.”

The UFC supports this direction in the sport and will make Bisbing a coach in the next The Ultimate Fighter series. Bisbing should have confidence in the judges’ scorecard considering the judges handed him his win in UFC 75 over Matt Hamill but this type of fighting is no more entertaining than watching boxing.

All good things end. So long UFC!

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]]> By: Patrick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/20/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-89-bisping-vs-leben/comment-page-1/#comment-54152 Patrick Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:22:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8105#comment-54152 Well then... we are agreed. Agreed? Well then… we are agreed.

Agreed?

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/20/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-89-bisping-vs-leben/comment-page-1/#comment-54143 HexRei Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:52:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8105#comment-54143 Yeah, we are in full agreement. Yeah, we are in full agreement.

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]]> By: Patrick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/20/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-89-bisping-vs-leben/comment-page-1/#comment-54135 Patrick Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:26:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8105#comment-54135 I completely agree, so they should show the "execution" or "lock" of the submission and not get into details about the motions leading up to them so much. Just stating that I'd rather not hear Rogan confuse people with lockdowns, electric chairs, whip ups, crackhead control, stoner control, and the other things he is familiar with and some fans are familiar with, but clearly not everyone will be familiar with. If they could just show the execution and have it explained by someone using relative terms then I think it would work out. I completely agree, so they should show the “execution” or “lock” of the submission and not get into details about the motions leading up to them so much.

Just stating that I’d rather not hear Rogan confuse people with lockdowns, electric chairs, whip ups, crackhead control, stoner control, and the other things he is familiar with and some fans are familiar with, but clearly not everyone will be familiar with.

If they could just show the execution and have it explained by someone using relative terms then I think it would work out.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/20/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-89-bisping-vs-leben/comment-page-1/#comment-54132 HexRei Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:07:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8105#comment-54132 And the transition really isn't important for these purposes. The point isn't to turn an average person into a BJJ practitioner, it's to help them understand what they see- i.e. why did that guy tap out just now? And the transition really isn’t important for these purposes. The point isn’t to turn an average person into a BJJ practitioner, it’s to help them understand what they see- i.e. why did that guy tap out just now?

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/20/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-89-bisping-vs-leben/comment-page-1/#comment-54130 HexRei Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:05:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8105#comment-54130 I said before, they have done it in the past already. It wasn't Rogan doing either... IIRC Miletich and Laimon did most of them. I said before, they have done it in the past already. It wasn’t Rogan doing either… IIRC Miletich and Laimon did most of them.

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]]> By: Patrick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/20/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-89-bisping-vs-leben/comment-page-1/#comment-54128 Patrick Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:53:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8105#comment-54128 It wouldn't be terribly difficult to show the execution of a submission, what would be hard is for them to explain all the movements that lead up to the execution of said submission. I can only imagine Rogan trying to inform the public on Eddie Bravo style submission vocabulary. If they did short in between segments just detailing the "visible" or open parts of submissions (i.e. locking in the sub) it'd probly help. It's not going to be possible to show that many transitions or set-ups though. It wouldn’t be terribly difficult to show the execution of a submission, what would be hard is for them to explain all the movements that lead up to the execution of said submission.

I can only imagine Rogan trying to inform the public on Eddie Bravo style submission vocabulary. If they did short in between segments just detailing the “visible” or open parts of submissions (i.e. locking in the sub) it’d probly help. It’s not going to be possible to show that many transitions or set-ups though.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/20/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-89-bisping-vs-leben/comment-page-1/#comment-54122 HexRei Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:49:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8105#comment-54122 <b>I think there must be some way to educate fans about the ground game without VH1-style pop-up bubbles, and they used to give a fighter’s style upon walking out, but discontinued that due to fighters not being tied to any single style.</b> The little between-fight instructionals they used to do were pretty good. They did them in IFL too. Basically they just demonstrate a move and its fundamentals I think there must be some way to educate fans about the ground game without VH1-style pop-up bubbles, and they used to give a fighter’s style upon walking out, but discontinued that due to fighters not being tied to any single style.

The little between-fight instructionals they used to do were pretty good. They did them in IFL too. Basically they just demonstrate a move and its fundamentals

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]]> By: Duncan Hamilton http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/20/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-89-bisping-vs-leben/comment-page-1/#comment-54086 Duncan Hamilton Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:41:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8105#comment-54086 There's that old saying... american beer is like making love in a canoe. Fucking close to water. There’s that old saying… american beer is like making love in a canoe.

Fucking close to water.

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