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	<title>Comments on: TUF 8&#8242;s Roli Delgado: Frank Mir was a little immature</title>
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		<title>By: big b</title>
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		<dc:creator>big b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rudy i trained with rolli in arkansas and not only would he kill your internet nerd ass, ichallenge you to a fight, say it my face, ill destroy your punk ass</description>
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		<title>By: jonb</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I WILL SAY IT AGAIN FOR THE 100TH TIME JUNIE IS A RETARD. HE TALKS A WHOLE LOTTA SHIT BUT THEN HE DOES NOT BACK IT UP. HE WAS GASSED OUT AT ROUND TWO. ALTHOUGH HE THREW A DECENT LEG KICK AND SOME BODY SHOTS HE COULDNT PUT DOWN THE 95 POUND WEAKLING. THE BIGGEST PART OF JUNIES GAME IS HIS MOUTH. MABEY ONE DAY HE COULD BE A MMA COMMENTATOR......BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD AND A 12 STEP PROGRAM THERE GOES I..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I WILL SAY IT AGAIN FOR THE 100TH TIME JUNIE IS A RETARD. HE TALKS A WHOLE LOTTA SHIT BUT THEN HE DOES NOT BACK IT UP. HE WAS GASSED OUT AT ROUND TWO. ALTHOUGH HE THREW A DECENT LEG KICK AND SOME BODY SHOTS HE COULDNT PUT DOWN THE 95 POUND WEAKLING. THE BIGGEST PART OF JUNIES GAME IS HIS MOUTH. MABEY ONE DAY HE COULD BE A MMA COMMENTATOR&#8230;&#8230;BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD AND A 12 STEP PROGRAM THERE GOES I..</p>
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		<title>By: HexRei</title>
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		<dc:creator>HexRei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;John on October 24th, 2008 8:49 am

I think it’s completely unfair to call Roli out on his decision to stand up with Junie, because everytime it went to the mat, Junie got scared and stood up and just waited. He criticized Efran for just laying on his opponent all fight long, but Junie didn’t even lay on the guy. He just stood there and looked at Roli. All Junie wanted to do was stand up, and that says a lot about what he really thought of Roli’s jiu-jitsu. If it wasn’t for Roli being ok with having the fight on their feet, that fight would’ve gone nowhere.&lt;/b&gt;

Um, no it wouldn&#039;t. The ref would have forced him to stand up if he had refused to get back up. This isn&#039;t 1993 where a BJJ guy can lay on his back and refuse to get up because he doesn&#039;t want to strike. Junie wanted to keep the fight on the feet, nothing wrong with that, and Roli had literally no ability to take Junie down. If Roli had not been as you say &quot;ok with having the fight on their feet&quot; he would have had to forfeit cause he sure as hell couldn&#039;t force the fight to the ground.

&lt;b&gt;matthew on October 25th, 2008 5:45 pm

john, i completely agree. Roli’s willingness to engage was what made watching that fight, regardless of lack of power.&lt;/b&gt;

Did we see the same fight? I saw Roli backing away for most of the fight and trying to go to the ground at every opportunity, unfortunately he shoots like a twelve year old girl and couldn&#039;t take the fight where he wanted it. Don&#039;t confuse inability to secure a takedown with willingness to stand up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>John on October 24th, 2008 8:49 am</p>
<p>I think it’s completely unfair to call Roli out on his decision to stand up with Junie, because everytime it went to the mat, Junie got scared and stood up and just waited. He criticized Efran for just laying on his opponent all fight long, but Junie didn’t even lay on the guy. He just stood there and looked at Roli. All Junie wanted to do was stand up, and that says a lot about what he really thought of Roli’s jiu-jitsu. If it wasn’t for Roli being ok with having the fight on their feet, that fight would’ve gone nowhere.</b></p>
<p>Um, no it wouldn&#8217;t. The ref would have forced him to stand up if he had refused to get back up. This isn&#8217;t 1993 where a BJJ guy can lay on his back and refuse to get up because he doesn&#8217;t want to strike. Junie wanted to keep the fight on the feet, nothing wrong with that, and Roli had literally no ability to take Junie down. If Roli had not been as you say &#8220;ok with having the fight on their feet&#8221; he would have had to forfeit cause he sure as hell couldn&#8217;t force the fight to the ground.</p>
<p><b>matthew on October 25th, 2008 5:45 pm</p>
<p>john, i completely agree. Roli’s willingness to engage was what made watching that fight, regardless of lack of power.</b></p>
<p>Did we see the same fight? I saw Roli backing away for most of the fight and trying to go to the ground at every opportunity, unfortunately he shoots like a twelve year old girl and couldn&#8217;t take the fight where he wanted it. Don&#8217;t confuse inability to secure a takedown with willingness to stand up.</p>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stupid double click.... grrr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stupid double click&#8230;. grrr</p>
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		<title>By: ProudMinnesotan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProudMinnesotan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason G said
&quot;Congratulations on being:

1) a homophobe
2) a keyboard warrior
3) a self proclaimed badass&quot;

Well put.

I enjoyed watching the fight.
(Great interview as well, keep them coming!)</description>
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&#8220;Congratulations on being:</p>
<p>1) a homophobe<br />
2) a keyboard warrior<br />
3) a self proclaimed badass&#8221;</p>
<p>Well put.</p>
<p>I enjoyed watching the fight.<br />
(Great interview as well, keep them coming!)</p>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john, i completely agree. Roli&#039;s willingness to engage was what made watching that fight, regardless of lack of power. Junie should be ashamed of his performance and should perhaps learn from some of the greater fighters that don&#039;t need to continually tell the world how great they are. I completely agree with the split decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>john, i completely agree. Roli&#8217;s willingness to engage was what made watching that fight, regardless of lack of power. Junie should be ashamed of his performance and should perhaps learn from some of the greater fighters that don&#8217;t need to continually tell the world how great they are. I completely agree with the split decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Evadmils</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evadmils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why the &quot;shut up?&quot; I just found it amusing that they censored the word god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the &#8220;shut up?&#8221; I just found it amusing that they censored the word god.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn straight I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn straight I am.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations on being:

1) a homophobe
2) a keyboard warrior
3) a self proclaimed badass</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations on being:</p>
<p>1) a homophobe<br />
2) a keyboard warrior<br />
3) a self proclaimed badass</p>
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		<title>By: rudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh by the way I would sayit to his face because I know he does not punch hard enough to hurt anyone and he cant get anyone to the ground either :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh by the way I would sayit to his face because I know he does not punch hard enough to hurt anyone and he cant get anyone to the ground either <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: rudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>his arrogance comes from saying people are not on his level becauses he owns a gym and rental property etc not because he says he is the best fighter

Although I am the first to post the sexuality issue with him I promise I am not the first to think it.  I can tell you this.  Littlerock Arkansas is not a hotbed of metrosexuals and no str8 dude would wear the pink thing he wore to draw attention to himself he refers to in junkies interview.  He wanted to be the first queer on the show

&lt;em&gt;Editor&#039;s Note: First off, there would be nothing wrong if Roli Delgado happened to be homosexual. However, the man is married to a female and has a daughter so your assertion is factually incorrect.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>his arrogance comes from saying people are not on his level becauses he owns a gym and rental property etc not because he says he is the best fighter</p>
<p>Although I am the first to post the sexuality issue with him I promise I am not the first to think it.  I can tell you this.  Littlerock Arkansas is not a hotbed of metrosexuals and no str8 dude would wear the pink thing he wore to draw attention to himself he refers to in junkies interview.  He wanted to be the first queer on the show</p>
<p><em>Editor&#8217;s Note: First off, there would be nothing wrong if Roli Delgado happened to be homosexual. However, the man is married to a female and has a daughter so your assertion is factually incorrect.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Jason G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank Mur is that you?

any yes that&#039;s how I like to say it so that&#039;s how I&#039;m going to spell it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Mur is that you?</p>
<p>any yes that&#8217;s how I like to say it so that&#8217;s how I&#8217;m going to spell it</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s completely unfair to call Roli out on his decision to stand up with Junie, because everytime it went to the mat, Junie got scared and stood up and just waited. He criticized Efran for just laying on his opponent all fight long, but Junie didn&#039;t even lay on the guy. He just stood there and looked at Roli. All Junie wanted to do was stand up, and that says a lot about what he really thought of Roli&#039;s jiu-jitsu. If it wasn&#039;t for Roli being ok with having the fight on their feet, that fight would&#039;ve gone nowhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s completely unfair to call Roli out on his decision to stand up with Junie, because everytime it went to the mat, Junie got scared and stood up and just waited. He criticized Efran for just laying on his opponent all fight long, but Junie didn&#8217;t even lay on the guy. He just stood there and looked at Roli. All Junie wanted to do was stand up, and that says a lot about what he really thought of Roli&#8217;s jiu-jitsu. If it wasn&#8217;t for Roli being ok with having the fight on their feet, that fight would&#8217;ve gone nowhere.</p>
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		<title>By: ctownhood</title>
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		<dc:creator>ctownhood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudy......really? Roli may not be the most gifted fighter, and admits as much. But arrogant? Questioning someones sexuality is really mature too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudy&#8230;&#8230;really? Roli may not be the most gifted fighter, and admits as much. But arrogant? Questioning someones sexuality is really mature too</p>
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		<title>By: rudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rolli is an idiot.  He comes across as very arrogant.  How many times do we have to hear about his rental property and degree and other fighters not being on his same level.  I have seen you fight twice and you got beat both times  I have seen in several fighters blogs that he was not liked by either team.  If they were rolling with him I am sure it was to snap one of those twig arms or legs.  As far as a split decision WTF I dont think it should have went to a 3rd round.

Go smoke another pole dude.  Thats how you got your blackbelt isnt it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rolli is an idiot.  He comes across as very arrogant.  How many times do we have to hear about his rental property and degree and other fighters not being on his same level.  I have seen you fight twice and you got beat both times  I have seen in several fighters blogs that he was not liked by either team.  If they were rolling with him I am sure it was to snap one of those twig arms or legs.  As far as a split decision WTF I dont think it should have went to a 3rd round.</p>
<p>Go smoke another pole dude.  Thats how you got your blackbelt isnt it?</p>
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		<title>By: JollyDV</title>
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		<dc:creator>JollyDV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article.You scooped me Sam, lol. I enjoyed watching the fight. I learned that Junie is not as good as he thinks he is. I hope his next opponent was watching closely and can come up with a good game plan and follow through. 

I can understand that Junie&#039;s bad behavior makes the show more interesting for a lot of viewers. What will he do next? Can you believe that? He is crazy! It doesn&#039;t work for me. I just see a confused, immature young man that hasn&#039;t learned to respect others or even himself. He is young and I hope that he matures sooner than later, because he has much to offer. A little self control goes along way. 

As for Roli, I thought he looked much smaller than Junie. He is tall but I wonder if he couldn&#039;t cut weight and fight at 145lbs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article.You scooped me Sam, lol. I enjoyed watching the fight. I learned that Junie is not as good as he thinks he is. I hope his next opponent was watching closely and can come up with a good game plan and follow through. </p>
<p>I can understand that Junie&#8217;s bad behavior makes the show more interesting for a lot of viewers. What will he do next? Can you believe that? He is crazy! It doesn&#8217;t work for me. I just see a confused, immature young man that hasn&#8217;t learned to respect others or even himself. He is young and I hope that he matures sooner than later, because he has much to offer. A little self control goes along way. </p>
<p>As for Roli, I thought he looked much smaller than Junie. He is tall but I wonder if he couldn&#8217;t cut weight and fight at 145lbs?</p>
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		<title>By: HexRei</title>
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		<dc:creator>HexRei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon me, just did a quick search- the reason is that you aren&#039;t allowed to DESTROY the name of god, and some people consider closing a web page, for instance, to be destroying the name of god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon me, just did a quick search- the reason is that you aren&#8217;t allowed to DESTROY the name of god, and some people consider closing a web page, for instance, to be destroying the name of god.</p>
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		<title>By: HexRei</title>
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		<dc:creator>HexRei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Censoring &quot;god&quot; is most likely a religious thing. I believe Jews do this (you&#039;re not allowed to write the name of god or something) and perhaps other religions as well- not sure what faith Delgado is tho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Censoring &#8220;god&#8221; is most likely a religious thing. I believe Jews do this (you&#8217;re not allowed to write the name of god or something) and perhaps other religions as well- not sure what faith Delgado is tho.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evadmils, shut up.</description>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was stunned that Roli didn&#039;t try to take it to the ground more often. But then I read on another site that he doesn&#039;t have very good takedowns and last night was evidence of that. Too bad, because I would have liked to see how Junie would have coped with a loss.

It was too bad that Mir succumbed to the immaturity of his team and felt the need to call out another fighter and try to embarrass him in front of everyone. As a coach, Mir should be setting the example, not acting like a clown and feeding into the negative stereotype. I haven&#039;t liked Mir on his season so far and I don&#039;t think he has carried himself as he should have. After watching last night, I&#039;ll be rooting for Big Nog in December.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was stunned that Roli didn&#8217;t try to take it to the ground more often. But then I read on another site that he doesn&#8217;t have very good takedowns and last night was evidence of that. Too bad, because I would have liked to see how Junie would have coped with a loss.</p>
<p>It was too bad that Mir succumbed to the immaturity of his team and felt the need to call out another fighter and try to embarrass him in front of everyone. As a coach, Mir should be setting the example, not acting like a clown and feeding into the negative stereotype. I haven&#8217;t liked Mir on his season so far and I don&#8217;t think he has carried himself as he should have. After watching last night, I&#8217;ll be rooting for Big Nog in December.</p>
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