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	<title>Comments on: Affliction co-founder takes aim at Dana White, Lorenzo Fertitta, and the UFC</title>
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		<title>By: Shocbomb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shocbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone form Affliction talking shit about another business going out of Business and bad business practices ??? WHAT !!!! What a fool is right. Did this ass do the interview after anight of drinking and doing coke or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone form Affliction talking shit about another business going out of Business and bad business practices ??? WHAT !!!! What a fool is right. Did this ass do the interview after anight of drinking and doing coke or something.
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		<title>By: Shatner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shatner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guys a fool for stating his opinion,and what do you mean you can&#039;t wait for Dana to respond.Dana&#039;s statements about anyone or anything not affiliated with the UFC are always the same.I can&#039;t believe people still want to hear him tell his lies and put down everyone with his 15 year old high school tough guy act.It&#039;s really getting old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guys a fool for stating his opinion,and what do you mean you can&#8217;t wait for Dana to respond.Dana&#8217;s statements about anyone or anything not affiliated with the UFC are always the same.I can&#8217;t believe people still want to hear him tell his lies and put down everyone with his 15 year old high school tough guy act.It&#8217;s really getting old.
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, this guy is a fool. i cant wait to see how Dana responds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, this guy is a fool. i cant wait to see how Dana responds.
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		<title>By: skwirrl</title>
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		<dc:creator>skwirrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That new casino is already half a billion in debt and that debt isn&#039;t being added on to the rest of the debt.  Any shortfalls against the terms of its loan will be covered by Station Casino holders.  Not the LLC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That new casino is already half a billion in debt and that debt isn&#8217;t being added on to the rest of the debt.  Any shortfalls against the terms of its loan will be covered by Station Casino holders.  Not the LLC.
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		<title>By: mmavegas</title>
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		<dc:creator>mmavegas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol Being in the hole doesn&#039;t mean you&#039;re going out at all ... it only means that they have incurred a large debt, and will have to be really tight over the next two years while paying it off. There&#039;s a brand new Station Casino opening up in January on the east side of town, and their other casinos stay absolutely packed 24/7 ... I don&#039;t see them defaulting on a debt where they have more than just the potential to pay it off, in other words .. I don&#039;t see them going under.  

I&#039;ve never met Beard, so I can&#039;t really comment on him personally ... but man, he just KILLED Affliction&#039;s chances to ever put on a show in Vegas. It&#039;s kinda sad, but definitely true ... Dana will make 100% sure that they&#039;re blocked from ever being able to sell their product here through radio/tv/etc... I know they&#039;ve done it before, and they&#039;ll continue to block people that piss them off... It&#039;s not the most ethical thing in the world, but it&#039;s all business at the end of the day, all day, every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol Being in the hole doesn&#8217;t mean you&#8217;re going out at all &#8230; it only means that they have incurred a large debt, and will have to be really tight over the next two years while paying it off. There&#8217;s a brand new Station Casino opening up in January on the east side of town, and their other casinos stay absolutely packed 24/7 &#8230; I don&#8217;t see them defaulting on a debt where they have more than just the potential to pay it off, in other words .. I don&#8217;t see them going under.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never met Beard, so I can&#8217;t really comment on him personally &#8230; but man, he just KILLED Affliction&#8217;s chances to ever put on a show in Vegas. It&#8217;s kinda sad, but definitely true &#8230; Dana will make 100% sure that they&#8217;re blocked from ever being able to sell their product here through radio/tv/etc&#8230; I know they&#8217;ve done it before, and they&#8217;ll continue to block people that piss them off&#8230; It&#8217;s not the most ethical thing in the world, but it&#8217;s all business at the end of the day, all day, every day.
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		<title>By: Scott Whitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Whitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually glad to hear someone fire back at Dana. I would like to hear more specifics about UFC flexing their muscle top put the kibosh on Affliction&#039;s Vegas PPV. Name names.
What was that crappy reality show about the Fertitta&#039;s hotel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually glad to hear someone fire back at Dana. I would like to hear more specifics about UFC flexing their muscle top put the kibosh on Affliction&#8217;s Vegas PPV. Name names.<br />
What was that crappy reality show about the Fertitta&#8217;s hotel?
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to hear Sam&#039;s opinion on what jimmy shaker said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to hear Sam&#8217;s opinion on what jimmy shaker said.
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Station Casino is BILLIONS in debt in attempts to buy back controlling interest during the recent economic boom. That money that gets spent in Vegas is gonna dry up in a recession. When Station Casinos which is where the Fertittas get their money gets seized where are they gonna get the money to pay off their loans for the UFC. They overleveraged themselves...Now its time for their creditors to come calling.&quot;

All big business has debt in the billions. As long as the debt service ratio is in line then it isn&#039;t a big deal. As for &quot;overleveraging&quot;, the public doesn&#039;t have access to the financial statements so that&#039;s a blind assumption. The credit crunch is hammering finanial institutions, last time I checked you don&#039;t get approved for a mortgage at the slot machines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Station Casino is BILLIONS in debt in attempts to buy back controlling interest during the recent economic boom. That money that gets spent in Vegas is gonna dry up in a recession. When Station Casinos which is where the Fertittas get their money gets seized where are they gonna get the money to pay off their loans for the UFC. They overleveraged themselves&#8230;Now its time for their creditors to come calling.&#8221;</p>
<p>All big business has debt in the billions. As long as the debt service ratio is in line then it isn&#8217;t a big deal. As for &#8220;overleveraging&#8221;, the public doesn&#8217;t have access to the financial statements so that&#8217;s a blind assumption. The credit crunch is hammering finanial institutions, last time I checked you don&#8217;t get approved for a mortgage at the slot machines.
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		<title>By: babalu</title>
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		<dc:creator>babalu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>go todd kick their ass!!!!!!!!!!!1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go todd kick their ass!!!!!!!!!!!1
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		<title>By: Jimmy Shaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Shaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wasn’t Lorenzo the highest paid casino exec in N. America last year? I think they put his earnings last year at $ 110 000 000. So, as much as I appreciate the effect of the economy, we also must appreciate the effect of a billionaire with mob ties. Somehow, I’m not worried.&quot;

so do you honestly believe for 1 second that he will take 5 years salary out of the bank and pay off the $500 Million + debt + the vig to bail out the UFC over just selling it for some major cash?

come on, what do you think the likeness contracts were for? they are just there to drive up the value of the company, so they can sell it with contracts + likeness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wasn’t Lorenzo the highest paid casino exec in N. America last year? I think they put his earnings last year at $ 110 000 000. So, as much as I appreciate the effect of the economy, we also must appreciate the effect of a billionaire with mob ties. Somehow, I’m not worried.&#8221;</p>
<p>so do you honestly believe for 1 second that he will take 5 years salary out of the bank and pay off the $500 Million + debt + the vig to bail out the UFC over just selling it for some major cash?</p>
<p>come on, what do you think the likeness contracts were for? they are just there to drive up the value of the company, so they can sell it with contracts + likeness.
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