Comments on: UFC 90: Sherk, Griffin, dos Santos, and Fisher all earn $65,000 “Fight Night” bonuses; UFC does record $2.8 million house at Allstate Arena http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-sherk-griffin-dos-santos-and-fisher-all-earn-65000-fight-night-bonuses-ufc-does-record-28-million-house-at-allstate-arena/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:14:30 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: experience http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-sherk-griffin-dos-santos-and-fisher-all-earn-65000-fight-night-bonuses-ufc-does-record-28-million-house-at-allstate-arena/comment-page-1/#comment-56511 experience Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:31:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8284#comment-56511 That ref David Smith was truly terrible. He was telling Spencer Fisher to work to improve his position when Fisher had a submission locked in tight. Sure, that was very annoying to the viewer, but on a more serious note that is distracting and misleading to the fighters, and could change the outcome of a fight! Imagine if you have a submission locked in and the guy is about to tap, but the referee is yelling in your face to do something else, so you give up on the move and that changes the outcome of the fight. Granted, I don't think that actually happened, but I could easily see a fighter changing strategy because the the ref is saying nonsense. Let the fighters fight. That ref David Smith was truly terrible. He was telling Spencer Fisher to work to improve his position when Fisher had a submission locked in tight. Sure, that was very annoying to the viewer, but on a more serious note that is distracting and misleading to the fighters, and could change the outcome of a fight!

Imagine if you have a submission locked in and the guy is about to tap, but the referee is yelling in your face to do something else, so you give up on the move and that changes the outcome of the fight. Granted, I don’t think that actually happened, but I could easily see a fighter changing strategy because the the ref is saying nonsense. Let the fighters fight.

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]]> By: warcry http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-sherk-griffin-dos-santos-and-fisher-all-earn-65000-fight-night-bonuses-ufc-does-record-28-million-house-at-allstate-arena/comment-page-1/#comment-54964 warcry Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:49:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8284#comment-54964 Cote was getting his ass whipped. I was annoyed that Anderson just didn't finish him. He could've ended the drama in the 1st Round. Cote was getting his ass whipped. I was annoyed that Anderson just didn’t finish him. He could’ve ended the drama in the 1st Round.

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]]> By: ACK! http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-sherk-griffin-dos-santos-and-fisher-all-earn-65000-fight-night-bonuses-ufc-does-record-28-million-house-at-allstate-arena/comment-page-1/#comment-54941 ACK! Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:38:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8284#comment-54941 I'm with Shatner... I'll never boo a fight or a fighter but Maynards lay-and-pray fight style was just garbage. He did absolutely nothing to try to finish the fight other than constantly attempt to improve his position. Pathetic standup, no submission attempts, very little ground and pound (you don't have to have a guy mounted to start pounding him... Maynard did nothing in guard, half-guard, or even side control other than a few innoculous body shots). What did he really do to win that fight other than hold Clementi on his back? Fights like this are why I miss the days of Pride when decisions were based on who worked harder to finish the fight. I’m with Shatner… I’ll never boo a fight or a fighter but Maynards lay-and-pray fight style was just garbage. He did absolutely nothing to try to finish the fight other than constantly attempt to improve his position. Pathetic standup, no submission attempts, very little ground and pound (you don’t have to have a guy mounted to start pounding him… Maynard did nothing in guard, half-guard, or even side control other than a few innoculous body shots). What did he really do to win that fight other than hold Clementi on his back?

Fights like this are why I miss the days of Pride when decisions were based on who worked harder to finish the fight.

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]]> By: glock http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-sherk-griffin-dos-santos-and-fisher-all-earn-65000-fight-night-bonuses-ufc-does-record-28-million-house-at-allstate-arena/comment-page-1/#comment-54905 glock Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:53:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8284#comment-54905 I'm a little late to the thread, but I'm happy to see everyone here feels the same way about the fans and refs last night. That was REALLY annoying. I almost forgot about the reffing too. Guess I've been trying to repress the memory that I was yelling at the TV like a moron myself "LEAVE 'EM ALONE, LET 'EM FIGHT "!!! and "SHUT THE FU@K UP!! .....you IDIOTS"....!! what hell were they doing threatening to stand them up all the time?? jeeezzzz... .... not very professional generally, when the drunken crowd can influence the refs and/or judges. I’m a little late to the thread, but I’m happy to see everyone here feels the same way about the fans and refs last night.
That was REALLY annoying.

I almost forgot about the reffing too.
Guess I’ve been trying to repress the memory that I was yelling at the TV like a moron myself “LEAVE ‘EM ALONE, LET ‘EM FIGHT “!!! and “SHUT THE FU@K UP!! …..you IDIOTS”….!!

what hell were they doing threatening to stand them up all the time??
jeeezzzz…

…. not very professional generally, when the drunken crowd can influence the refs and/or judges.

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]]> By: Shatner http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-sherk-griffin-dos-santos-and-fisher-all-earn-65000-fight-night-bonuses-ufc-does-record-28-million-house-at-allstate-arena/comment-page-1/#comment-54902 Shatner Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:37:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8284#comment-54902 The Maynard ground work was awful he was making no effort to finish the fight he treated it as a wrestling match as if he had outpointed Rich and was riding out a victory he did the same thing against Frankie Edgar.Trust me I thought the crowd was terrible booing some decent fights and a very good Sherk Griffin fight,but I am in no rush to see Gray Maynard fight again anytime soon.When you say you were on the edge of your seat during that fight you sound like you're trying to sound cool like you appreciate ground fighting and no one else gets it.I do enjoy watching a good grappling match and it was not there during Maynard's fight last night it was awful. The Maynard ground work was awful he was making no effort to finish the fight he treated it as a wrestling match as if he had outpointed Rich and was riding out a victory he did the same thing against Frankie Edgar.Trust me I thought the crowd was terrible booing some decent fights and a very good Sherk Griffin fight,but I am in no rush to see Gray Maynard fight again anytime soon.When you say you were on the edge of your seat during that fight you sound like you’re trying to sound cool like you appreciate ground fighting and no one else gets it.I do enjoy watching a good grappling match and it was not there during Maynard’s fight last night it was awful.

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]]> By: matt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-sherk-griffin-dos-santos-and-fisher-all-earn-65000-fight-night-bonuses-ufc-does-record-28-million-house-at-allstate-arena/comment-page-1/#comment-54901 matt Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:36:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8284#comment-54901 silva was being a disrespectful asshole and everything silva had cote had an answer cote was winnig the fight and if he hadnt had knee reconstruction in the past he couldve decisivly won silva was being a disrespectful asshole and everything silva had cote had an answer cote was winnig the fight and if he hadnt had knee reconstruction in the past he couldve decisivly won

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]]> By: Patrick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-sherk-griffin-dos-santos-and-fisher-all-earn-65000-fight-night-bonuses-ufc-does-record-28-million-house-at-allstate-arena/comment-page-1/#comment-54894 Patrick Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:15:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8284#comment-54894 Am I the only one that was on the edge of my seat during Maynard/Clementi? That was some seriously awesome groundwork by Maynard, and Clementi tried damn near every trick in the book. I enjoyed every fight they broadcast, even enjoyed Silva toying with Cote until the whole knee popping acl terribleness. Good fight card, bad crowd. Am I the only one that was on the edge of my seat during Maynard/Clementi?

That was some seriously awesome groundwork by Maynard, and Clementi tried damn near every trick in the book. I enjoyed every fight they broadcast, even enjoyed Silva toying with Cote until the whole knee popping acl terribleness. Good fight card, bad crowd.

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]]> By: Cathedron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-sherk-griffin-dos-santos-and-fisher-all-earn-65000-fight-night-bonuses-ufc-does-record-28-million-house-at-allstate-arena/comment-page-1/#comment-54888 Cathedron Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:56:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8284#comment-54888 I think some of the refs were actually intimidated by the crowd. That might be why they were constantly pushing for action. Chicago is just a rude city with no real MMA fan base. Half the people there were so drunk they probly thought they were watching hockey. Fuck 'em. I wish the UFC would head three hours west and come to the Quad Cities. We don't have a huge venue, but I guarantee it would be a sellout. The percentage of MMA fans here is gigantic. Pat Miletich is like a god here. Plus we love wrestling so you wouldn't be hearing us boo whenever a fight went to the ground. I think some of the refs were actually intimidated by the crowd. That might be why they were constantly pushing for action. Chicago is just a rude city with no real MMA fan base. Half the people there were so drunk they probly thought they were watching hockey. Fuck ‘em. I wish the UFC would head three hours west and come to the Quad Cities. We don’t have a huge venue, but I guarantee it would be a sellout. The percentage of MMA fans here is gigantic. Pat Miletich is like a god here. Plus we love wrestling so you wouldn’t be hearing us boo whenever a fight went to the ground.

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]]> By: Nick Merra http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-sherk-griffin-dos-santos-and-fisher-all-earn-65000-fight-night-bonuses-ufc-does-record-28-million-house-at-allstate-arena/comment-page-1/#comment-54856 Nick Merra Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:50:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8284#comment-54856 i hear big john is coming back. Any truth to that? i hear big john is coming back. Any truth to that?

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]]> By: Nick Merra http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-sherk-griffin-dos-santos-and-fisher-all-earn-65000-fight-night-bonuses-ufc-does-record-28-million-house-at-allstate-arena/comment-page-1/#comment-54851 Nick Merra Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:25:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8284#comment-54851 were the refs and crowd really that bad?? were the refs and crowd really that bad??

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