Comments on: UFC 90: The only thing Silva may have been guilty of was showing Cote too much respect http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-silvas-performance-was-a-display-of-respect-towards-cote/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:14:30 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jeremy Black http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-silvas-performance-was-a-display-of-respect-towards-cote/comment-page-1/#comment-55169 Jeremy Black Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:35:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8282#comment-55169 Re: (Silva vs Cote) Hey Sam, howzit going? (thats australian for how are you?) While I agree partially with you, I have to disagree with some of what you say. The way the Ufc portrayed the fight on tv, was to me a little biased. But I will discuss that in a few moments. After repeatedly watching the fight and revising my own scores I have to say that Cote won the first round or atleast it could have been called a draw. (One of the judges wasn't suffering from a case of I love Spider as he gave it to Cote). Here's the stats I came up with. Cote landed 10 un-checked leg kicks to Silva's 3. Cote landed 7 punches to Silva's head/face to Silva's 4. 2 punches were flush. Silva got 1 kick to the head and 2 knees to the face and a glancing kick to the body. The second round I would give to Silva who outscored Cote, however the 2 best blows of that round came from Cote when he elbowed the top of Silva's head. Silva scored with 3 leg kicks to the body, 2 unchecked leg kicks, a punch to the body, a punch to the head and a glancing elbow to Cote. The 3rd round was even with only 1 punch to the face and a leg kick from Cote to Silva's 2 punches to the head. What annoyed me were the replay's after each round. The UFC mainly focused on showing Silva hitting Cote. But Silva also got caught with some good punches in the few times they got to exchanging blows. These however were not shown at the end of the round even though they were some of the highlights of the fight. And Joe Rogan and whoever the other commentator was were clearly too caught up in Anderson (one hugging each nut) to commentate properly on what was really happening in the fight. When Cote thumped Anderson in the head 2 times in a row they didn't even say anything! What type of commentators are they?. And then when Anderson threw out a kick that missed they would say "what a great kick by Anderson!" wtf! The commentary was very bias. Now for you to go and say Cote doesn't deserve another shot is ridiculous. Anderson was clearly confused about how to engage with Cote, especially considering he had hit him with his best shots and Cote just ate them up like they were fairy taps. Anderson was very weary and was afraid to engage for fear of being knocked out. When he did engage he (Anderson), was getting caught. He tasted Cote's punching power and decided it was better to dance and be evasive rather than risk being knocked out and humiliated. To me Silva was not a decisive winner and needs to fight Cote again to prove to everyone that he is more dominant than Cote. I saw Cote as being the more aggressive fighter taking the fight to Anderson. Anderson for the most part was avoiding getting anywhere near Cote. Anderson has got a lot to lose and for him to lose to Cote would be humiliating. But this is only because Cote doesn't get the respect from the mma community that he deserves. Anyway mate just wanted to share my thoughts. Take it easy. Mr Black. Re: (Silva vs Cote)

Hey Sam, howzit going? (thats australian for how are you?)
While I agree partially with you, I have to disagree with some of what you say.
The way the Ufc portrayed the fight on tv, was to me a little biased. But I will discuss that in a few moments.
After repeatedly watching the fight and revising my own scores I have to say that Cote won the first round or atleast it could have been called a draw. (One of the judges wasn’t suffering from a case of I love Spider as he gave it to Cote).
Here’s the stats I came up with.
Cote landed 10 un-checked leg kicks to Silva’s 3.
Cote landed 7 punches to Silva’s head/face to Silva’s 4. 2 punches were flush.
Silva got 1 kick to the head and 2 knees to the face and a glancing kick to the body.
The second round I would give to Silva who outscored Cote, however the 2 best blows of that round came from Cote when he elbowed the top of Silva’s head.
Silva scored with 3 leg kicks to the body, 2 unchecked leg kicks, a punch to the body, a punch to the head and a glancing elbow to Cote.
The 3rd round was even with only 1 punch to the face and a leg kick from Cote to Silva’s 2 punches to the head.
What annoyed me were the replay’s after each round. The UFC mainly focused on showing Silva hitting Cote. But Silva also got caught with some good punches in the few times they got to exchanging blows. These however were not shown at the end of the round even though they were some of the highlights of the fight.
And Joe Rogan and whoever the other commentator was were clearly too caught up in Anderson (one hugging each nut) to commentate properly on what was really happening in the fight. When Cote thumped Anderson in the head 2 times in a row they didn’t even say anything! What type of commentators are they?. And then when Anderson threw out a kick that missed they would say “what a great kick by Anderson!” wtf! The commentary was very bias.
Now for you to go and say Cote doesn’t deserve another shot is ridiculous.
Anderson was clearly confused about how to engage with Cote, especially considering he had hit him with his best shots and Cote just ate them up like they were fairy taps. Anderson was very weary and was afraid to engage for fear of being knocked out. When he did engage he (Anderson), was getting caught.
He tasted Cote’s punching power and decided it was better to dance and be evasive rather than risk being knocked out and humiliated.
To me Silva was not a decisive winner and needs to fight Cote again to prove to everyone that he is more dominant than Cote.
I saw Cote as being the more aggressive fighter taking the fight to Anderson.
Anderson for the most part was avoiding getting anywhere near Cote. Anderson has got a lot to lose and for him to lose to Cote would be humiliating.
But this is only because Cote doesn’t get the respect from the mma community that he deserves.

Anyway mate just wanted to share my thoughts.

Take it easy.

Mr Black.

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]]> By: the Levi http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-silvas-performance-was-a-display-of-respect-towards-cote/comment-page-1/#comment-55065 the Levi Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:45:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8282#comment-55065 i agree with Sam completely. i was saying those same things while I watched the fight live and when I watched it again.I was comparing him to lyoto machida his training partner.he was being very "Elusive", because he respected Cote's power.Cote looked dangerous when Anderson tried to put him in the clinch, because when he breaks the clinch he throws a mean right.Yeah I'm talking about the one he used to drop Tito and Kendall.if he landed one of those it might have been good night Anderson. i agree with Sam completely. i was saying those same things while I watched the fight live and when I watched it again.I was comparing him to lyoto machida his training partner.he was being very “Elusive”, because he respected Cote’s power.Cote looked dangerous when Anderson tried to put him in the clinch, because when he breaks the clinch he throws a mean right.Yeah I’m talking about the one he used to drop Tito and Kendall.if he landed one of those it might have been good night Anderson.

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]]> By: EJ http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-silvas-performance-was-a-display-of-respect-towards-cote/comment-page-1/#comment-54988 EJ Mon, 27 Oct 2008 04:56:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8282#comment-54988 Great article Sam i'm in complete agreement, the idea that Silva was toying with Cote and could end the fight whenever he wanted is nothing more than his apologist at work. They all predicted Anderson via murder and have alot of egg on their face because Cote was not once hurt or rocked by Silva during the fight and IMO had the fight 1 round a piece. Patrick was not scared or intimidated and I think that threw off Silva usually when he lands a good shot his opponents are on their heels and he pounces on them for the finish with Cote there was none of that. I'm all for a rematch because to me Cote showed that as good as Silva is he's not unbeatable or unstopable and a guy who didn't even deserve a title shot according to some proved just that at UFC 90. Great article Sam i’m in complete agreement, the idea that Silva was toying with Cote and could end the fight whenever he wanted is nothing more than his apologist at work. They all predicted Anderson via murder and have alot of egg on their face because Cote was not once hurt or rocked by Silva during the fight and IMO had the fight 1 round a piece. Patrick was not scared or intimidated and I think that threw off Silva usually when he lands a good shot his opponents are on their heels and he pounces on them for the finish with Cote there was none of that. I’m all for a rematch because to me Cote showed that as good as Silva is he’s not unbeatable or unstopable and a guy who didn’t even deserve a title shot according to some proved just that at UFC 90.

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]]> By: neijia http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-silvas-performance-was-a-display-of-respect-towards-cote/comment-page-1/#comment-54942 neijia Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:40:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8282#comment-54942 If Anderson walks around at 230, same weight as Fedor, there are any number of more interesting match-ups. He should be able to walk over most of the LHW's. The clip of him sparring "Lil Nog" on All Access was pretty interesting. If Anderson walks around at 230, same weight as Fedor, there are any number of more interesting match-ups. He should be able to walk over most of the LHW’s. The clip of him sparring “Lil Nog” on All Access was pretty interesting.

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]]> By: neijia http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-silvas-performance-was-a-display-of-respect-towards-cote/comment-page-1/#comment-54940 neijia Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:37:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8282#comment-54940 Sam, great post. The fans, as usual, are complete idiots. No wonder they parrot whatever Dana White says. They are obviously missing more than a few marbles. For once, I found myself agreeing with everything Rogan said. Silva was indeed setting up Cote even when he looked like he was doing "nothing". Would it be more satisfying to see him finish Cote quickly? Perhaps so but it's very interesting to see his elusiveness and search for openings - when he finds them, it's still a ballet of violence. "Lyoto Machida with flair" was a good line. Sam, great post. The fans, as usual, are complete idiots. No wonder they parrot whatever Dana White says. They are obviously missing more than a few marbles.

For once, I found myself agreeing with everything Rogan said. Silva was indeed setting up Cote even when he looked like he was doing “nothing”. Would it be more satisfying to see him finish Cote quickly? Perhaps so but it’s very interesting to see his elusiveness and search for openings – when he finds them, it’s still a ballet of violence. “Lyoto Machida with flair” was a good line.

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]]> By: JTM http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-silvas-performance-was-a-display-of-respect-towards-cote/comment-page-1/#comment-54920 JTM Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:13:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8282#comment-54920 Weird thing is, last night watching UFC 90 at 2am GMT, I said to my brother that if I was Cote, the only thing worse than eating a nose-rearranging knee from the savege ballet of violence that is Anderson Silva, would be some kind of horrendous knee injury that would wreck you up even worse. Respect to Cote though, no-one thought he would get out of the 2nd round. Good card all round yet again, the last 5, I think, have been solidly entertaining. Weird thing is, last night watching UFC 90 at 2am GMT, I said to my brother that if I was Cote, the only thing worse than eating a nose-rearranging knee from the savege ballet of violence that is Anderson Silva, would be some kind of horrendous knee injury that would wreck you up even worse. Respect to Cote though, no-one thought he would get out of the 2nd round.

Good card all round yet again, the last 5, I think, have been solidly entertaining.

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]]> By: Numba1Stunna http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-silvas-performance-was-a-display-of-respect-towards-cote/comment-page-1/#comment-54897 Numba1Stunna Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:22:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8282#comment-54897 Sam, this is a great article and I have to say after reading this you have definitely changed my opinion on the fight. I just watched it again, and I am having a hard time understanding how I even thought that Silva was toying with him in the first place. The hand movement and body movements that Silva displayed were in no way show-boating. His reflexes and strikes are the same whether or not he is doing those so I almost think he was trying to bait Cote into thinking that he could capitalize off Silva not having his hands in the right places. And then when Cote would fire Silva was hitting him with some powerful shots that never actually hurt Cote. Silva knew that if Cote caught him flush there was a chance he would get hurt so like you said he kept his range and picked his spots. I think Silva didn't throw more combinations like he usually does is because he underestimated how good Cote's chin was. To throw combo's you have to be in the pocket for them to have the full effect, and since Silva saw that Cote can take a punch and still come full speed he knew he couldn't just stand their throwing. If Silva is throwin combo's in the pocket obviously his defense wouldn't be as strong because he leaves himself vulnerable everytime he throws, and its clear Silva didn't want to know what a Cote overhand right felt like. Sam, do you think that if Silva leaves MW for his last 5 fights that Cote would deserve a shot to fight for the interim belt? I say Marquardt Vs. Cote... Sam, this is a great article and I have to say after reading this you have definitely changed my opinion on the fight. I just watched it again, and I am having a hard time understanding how I even thought that Silva was toying with him in the first place. The hand movement and body movements that Silva displayed were in no way show-boating. His reflexes and strikes are the same whether or not he is doing those so I almost think he was trying to bait Cote into thinking that he could capitalize off Silva not having his hands in the right places. And then when Cote would fire Silva was hitting him with some powerful shots that never actually hurt Cote. Silva knew that if Cote caught him flush there was a chance he would get hurt so like you said he kept his range and picked his spots. I think Silva didn’t throw more combinations like he usually does is because he underestimated how good Cote’s chin was. To throw combo’s you have to be in the pocket for them to have the full effect, and since Silva saw that Cote can take a punch and still come full speed he knew he couldn’t just stand their throwing. If Silva is throwin combo’s in the pocket obviously his defense wouldn’t be as strong because he leaves himself vulnerable everytime he throws, and its clear Silva didn’t want to know what a Cote overhand right felt like. Sam, do you think that if Silva leaves MW for his last 5 fights that Cote would deserve a shot to fight for the interim belt? I say Marquardt Vs. Cote…

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]]> By: James http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-silvas-performance-was-a-display-of-respect-towards-cote/comment-page-1/#comment-54896 James Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:21:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8282#comment-54896 silvas good enough that he doesnt need to throw in all that hot dog bullshit...it may have been mental strategy but to me it crossed the line into poor sportsmanship and yes he's always done the same shit in all his fights...since he's primarily a counterstriker i figure he was trying to bait cote into getting off his gameplan and fighting more off of emotion (ie lets knock this girly voiced sammy davis jr's wannabes head off); the face of the ufc and best pound for pound fighter needs to show more class for the sake of the sport silvas good enough that he doesnt need to throw in all that hot dog bullshit…it may have been mental strategy but to me it crossed the line into poor sportsmanship and yes he’s always done the same shit in all his fights…since he’s primarily a counterstriker i figure he was trying to bait cote into getting off his gameplan and fighting more off of emotion (ie lets knock this girly voiced sammy davis jr’s wannabes head off); the face of the ufc and best pound for pound fighter needs to show more class for the sake of the sport

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]]> By: glock http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-silvas-performance-was-a-display-of-respect-towards-cote/comment-page-1/#comment-54893 glock Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:15:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8282#comment-54893 Yeah, what Eric and Sam said....... BTW, whatsup with the all the booing?? what bunch of frickin' a$$holes. hope we don't have to sit thru another event in Chicago any time soon.... or maybe just make Kimbo fight all his sleeping contests there. Yeah, what Eric and Sam said…….

BTW, whatsup with the all the booing?? what bunch of frickin’ a$$holes.

hope we don’t have to sit thru another event in Chicago any time soon….
or maybe just make Kimbo fight all his sleeping contests there.

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]]> By: Cathedron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/26/ufc-90-silvas-performance-was-a-display-of-respect-towards-cote/comment-page-1/#comment-54892 Cathedron Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:13:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8282#comment-54892 Why is it that when Silva dropped his hands and dodged Franklin's attack in their second fight that no one attacked him for showboating, but against Cote everyone says he's showboating because he was waving his hands around trying to get Cote to flinch? I was enormously impressed with Cote last night. I still think he would have gotten killed if the fight had continued, but he did a fantastic job. Why is it that when Silva dropped his hands and dodged Franklin’s attack in their second fight that no one attacked him for showboating, but against Cote everyone says he’s showboating because he was waving his hands around trying to get Cote to flinch?

I was enormously impressed with Cote last night. I still think he would have gotten killed if the fight had continued, but he did a fantastic job.

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