Comments on: Patrick Cote believes he got the better of Silva http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 15:31:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Robert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-57736 Robert Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:31:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-57736 I enjoyed reading the post above, my take is simple: Silva fought a smart fight, he landed clean, landed hard and at the same time avoided clean and hard shots from cote. He had a gameplan and executed it to the T. He also did what most intentionally ignore because secretly inside some want Silva to fall, and thats to know the gameplan of your opponent. Which for cote was to concoct a brawling inside exchange that would give him a chance to rock Silva. He even told the world his gameplan when he said I will take 10 of Silva's to get my one!! hint, hint.. He also told the world his alternative gameplan when he said that he thinks Silvas wrestling his suspect, meaning he planned to try to take silva down, if he could not land on the feet and guess what he tried to take Silva down..hint,hint.. Again, Silva fought a smart fight by landing and moving not running, but landing to frustrate your opponent so that they will do the inevitable - make a mistake!! I know alot of people including ufc pres. dana white have idolized Silva and granted he has been blessed by GOD but they forget why they idolize him, maybe because he's a great fighter, who fights smart, who respects his opponents, and who execute his gameplan. Tell me this you ufc fans, streetfighters, and ufc fighters which is a better gameplan #1 land clean, land hard, land decisive, avoid his right hand strength, respect your opponent, and at the same time wait till your opponent makes a mistake, then capitalize, if it ends in tko take it, if it ends in a KO take or #2 go in wild, poising like you want to fight technical but all along swinging for the fences, hoping that somehow, someway that I land, and absorb some of his punches along the way so that I can give him my one, and if all that don't work then try to sneak in a takedown and gr and pound. and then I'll say after the fight I f-- him up?? I enjoyed reading the post above, my take is simple: Silva fought a smart fight, he landed clean, landed hard and at the same time avoided clean and hard shots from cote.
He had a gameplan and executed it to the T. He also did what most intentionally ignore because secretly inside some want Silva to fall, and thats to know the gameplan of your opponent. Which for cote was to concoct a brawling inside exchange that would give him a chance to rock Silva. He even told the world his gameplan when he said I will take 10 of Silva’s to get my one!! hint, hint.. He also told the world his alternative gameplan when he said that he thinks Silvas wrestling his suspect, meaning he planned to try to take silva down, if he could not land on the feet and guess what he tried to take Silva down..hint,hint..
Again, Silva fought a smart fight by landing and moving not running, but landing to frustrate your opponent so that they will do the inevitable – make a mistake!!
I know alot of people including ufc pres. dana white have idolized Silva and granted he has been blessed by GOD but they forget why they idolize him, maybe because he’s a great fighter, who fights smart, who respects his opponents, and who execute his gameplan.
Tell me this you ufc fans, streetfighters, and ufc fighters which is a better gameplan
#1 land clean, land hard, land decisive, avoid his right hand strength, respect your opponent, and at the same time wait till your opponent makes a mistake, then capitalize, if it ends in tko take it, if it ends in a KO take or
#2 go in wild, poising like you want to fight technical but all along swinging for the fences, hoping that somehow, someway that I land, and absorb some of his punches along the way so that I can give him my one, and if all that don’t work then try to sneak in a takedown and gr and pound. and then I’ll say after the fight I f– him up??

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]]> By: steve http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-56151 steve Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:35:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-56151 Cote clearly dominated the entire fight, silva had no chance. If it had gone the third, cote was knocking silva out with flying knee. Silva has no stand up ability Cote clearly dominated the entire fight, silva had no chance. If it had gone the third, cote was knocking silva out with flying knee. Silva has no stand up ability

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]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55269 darkmetal Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:34:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55269 If you watch the fight again, you will notice that with each minute of the fight, Silva was getting more and more aggressive, essentially "feeling out" his opponent. However, even at the beginning, nobody can say that Cote was dominating the action. The path to destruction was only halted by his own injury. Wow, he survived a few good punches and a knee and made it to round 3. I give him credit for that, but from Cote's viewpoint it made him the winner somehow. It's tantamount to Cote shaving his head and walking through Kimbo Slice's neighborhood without getting shot. You may have survived but it don't mean spit because you walked VERY fast. If Cote had beaten Silva, or at least have endangered him at ANY time, he would have some reason to boast. As it stands, he is simply being a chump for even talking. He should thank Anderson for the opportunity to even step in the ring with him. If you watch the fight again, you will notice that with each minute of the fight, Silva was getting more and more aggressive, essentially “feeling out” his opponent. However, even at the beginning, nobody can say that Cote was dominating the action. The path to destruction was only halted by his own injury.

Wow, he survived a few good punches and a knee and made it to round 3. I give him credit for that, but from Cote’s viewpoint it made him the winner somehow.
It’s tantamount to Cote shaving his head and walking through Kimbo Slice’s neighborhood without getting shot. You may have survived but it don’t mean spit because you walked VERY fast.

If Cote had beaten Silva, or at least have endangered him at ANY time, he would have some reason to boast. As it stands, he is simply being a chump for even talking. He should thank Anderson for the opportunity to even step in the ring with him.

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]]> By: nate http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55258 nate Wed, 29 Oct 2008 08:19:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55258 "red" said "This fight almost seemed to me that Silva was bored and tired to make it interesting" that sums it up for me as well. I was curious to see what Cote said, "Biff" describes how I feel on that one: "Sounds like Cote is suffering from some dementia" “red” said “This fight almost seemed to me that Silva was bored and tired to make it interesting”
that sums it up for me as well. I was curious to see what Cote said, “Biff” describes how I feel on that one: “Sounds like Cote is suffering from some dementia”

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]]> By: spoofeee http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55257 spoofeee Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:38:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55257 forget a rematch with cote n silva, give yushin okami his shot at silva given he beats lister, cote wouldnt of even gotten his shot had okami broken his hand., then silva can move to lhw. cote can bitch all he wants saying he 'fucked' up silva. most people would think Okami would probably do a worse job than Cote, but give him his shot, hes only lost to franklin!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE forget a rematch with cote n silva, give yushin okami his shot at silva given he beats lister, cote wouldnt of even gotten his shot had okami broken his hand., then silva can move to lhw. cote can bitch all he wants saying he ‘fucked’ up silva. most people would think Okami would probably do a worse job than Cote, but give him his shot, hes only lost to franklin!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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]]> By: ragefightingwear http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55246 ragefightingwear Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:32:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55246 Uh Cote, You TKO'd yourself, Anderson let you live, he was so unfraid of you, that he decided to get a Cardio work in, for next real fight, before you TKO'd yourself. Uh Cote, You TKO’d yourself, Anderson let you live, he was so unfraid of you, that he decided to get a Cardio work in, for next real fight, before you TKO’d yourself.

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]]> By: rbk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55219 rbk Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:29:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55219 Cote sure is setting himself up for a decapitation if (hopefully not) they rematch. Delusions of Cote grandeur. Cote sure is setting himself up for a decapitation if (hopefully not) they rematch. Delusions of Cote grandeur.

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]]> By: TerribleT http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55197 TerribleT Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:35:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55197 Cote says he was winning the fight B4 he KO'ed himself. That's a good one!!! But who didn't know we were going to hear this sooner or later? Put Cote back in the octagon with Travis Lutter that will shut him up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cote says he was winning the fight B4 he KO’ed himself. That’s a good one!!! But who didn’t know we were going to hear this sooner or later? Put Cote back in the octagon with Travis Lutter that will shut him up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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]]> By: red http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55194 red Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:18:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55194 This fight almost seemed to me that Silva was bored and tired to make it intersting . This fight almost seemed to me that Silva was bored and tired to make it intersting .

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]]> By: Grappo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55179 Grappo Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:26:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55179 I like Cote, but he is either delusional, or just trying to hype himself up a bit. Silva did him a huge favor by letting it go on as long as it did. I think he was trying to give the fans a good show instead of annihilating Cote from the get-go, but it kinda backfired on him because of Cote's freak injury. If the fight had played out the way it would have if Cote's knee hadn't gone poo-poo, I don't think people would be complaining about Silva's showboating. I like Cote, but he is either delusional, or just trying to hype himself up a bit. Silva did him a huge favor by letting it go on as long as it did. I think he was trying to give the fans a good show instead of annihilating Cote from the get-go, but it kinda backfired on him because of Cote’s freak injury. If the fight had played out the way it would have if Cote’s knee hadn’t gone poo-poo, I don’t think people would be complaining about Silva’s showboating.

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]]> By: sadface http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55173 sadface Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:05:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55173 Rich S. In the "judges eyes" Silva won 30-27 on two cards and 29-28 on the other card. So, no Cote wasn't winning the fight at all. Rich S. In the “judges eyes” Silva won 30-27 on two cards and 29-28 on the other card. So, no Cote wasn’t winning the fight at all.

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]]> By: JollyDV http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55149 JollyDV Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:06:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55149 Before the fight Mark Delagratti was asked if Cote had a chance. Delagratti said that Cote truly believed he would win and that was all that mattered. Cote showed no fear, no nerves, nothing. So if he really thought he was going to win, then it makes sense that he truly thinks he was winning this fight. Besides, what fighter would do a post fight interview and say yeah, he whooped my ass from start to finish. Most fighters that lose think they had an advantage at some point in the fight. A fighter's psyche has to work this way, there cannot be room for doubt. I may be off a shot or two, but I recall that in round 1, neither fight touched each other in the first minute. I believe that the remaining 4 minutes of round 1 included only two kicks and one throw connecting. The fight ended very early in round 3, basically leaving only round 2 to judge. Silva got the takedowns and some elbows etc. Cote got 2 elbows from the bottom and made contact only a few times. The data posted early testifies to this. Sam is there anyway you can get an interview with Anderson Silva or his trainer? Please try really hard. We would all love to hear his version. Before the fight Mark Delagratti was asked if Cote had a chance. Delagratti said that Cote truly believed he would win and that was all that mattered. Cote showed no fear, no nerves, nothing. So if he really thought he was going to win, then it makes sense that he truly thinks he was winning this fight. Besides, what fighter would do a post fight interview and say yeah, he whooped my ass from start to finish. Most fighters that lose think they had an advantage at some point in the fight. A fighter’s psyche has to work this way, there cannot be room for doubt.

I may be off a shot or two, but I recall that in round 1, neither fight touched each other in the first minute. I believe that the remaining 4 minutes of round 1 included only two kicks and one throw connecting. The fight ended very early in round 3, basically leaving only round 2 to judge. Silva got the takedowns and some elbows etc. Cote got 2 elbows from the bottom and made contact only a few times. The data posted early testifies to this.

Sam is there anyway you can get an interview with Anderson Silva or his trainer? Please try really hard. We would all love to hear his version.

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]]> By: dirk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55146 dirk Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:52:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55146 silva could have ended that fight at will. i think he was trying to entertain. i feel sorry for the next guy that has to fight him, becuase i don't think he is gonna play silva could have ended that fight at will. i think he was trying to entertain. i feel sorry for the next guy that has to fight him, becuase i don’t think he is gonna play

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55122 HexRei Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:18:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55122 I mean I never said he was "completely" playing with him, see? I mean I never said he was “completely” playing with him, see?

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55121 HexRei Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:17:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55121 <b>JJ Docker on October 27th, 2008 5:13 pm He wasn’t completely playing with him, it was a mixture of caution, patient counter-striking and yes, at some some points, playing around.</b> Way to contradict me and then admit I was right in the same sentence ;) guess some people just love to argue. JJ Docker on October 27th, 2008 5:13 pm

He wasn’t completely playing with him, it was a mixture of caution, patient counter-striking and yes, at some some points, playing around.

Way to contradict me and then admit I was right in the same sentence ;) guess some people just love to argue.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55116 Rich S. Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:42:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55116 "“I’ll agree.. Cote WAS winning the fight when he lost..” What fight were you watching?" How about i put it this way.. I DON'T PERSONALLY FEEL that Cote was winning the fight.. but, I'M SURE THE JUDGES DID.. Cote threw alot of swing-n-misses.. Silva landed every shot with percision.. but in a judge's eyes, Cote was the -aggressor-, and he was -pushing the pace-. i feel that Silva's counter gameplan was great.. but until you actually catch someone with a counter, the judges will think your not willing to engage, thus swaying them towards Cote. And if you think that sounds wild, i'm sure i can get an "amen" on UFC judges not exactly being the brightest.. ““I’ll agree..
Cote WAS winning the fight when he lost..”
What fight were you watching?”

How about i put it this way..
I DON’T PERSONALLY FEEL that Cote was winning the fight..
but, I’M SURE THE JUDGES DID..

Cote threw alot of swing-n-misses..
Silva landed every shot with percision..

but in a judge’s eyes, Cote was the -aggressor-, and he was -pushing the pace-.

i feel that Silva’s counter gameplan was great..
but until you actually catch someone with a counter, the judges will think your not willing to engage, thus swaying them towards Cote.

And if you think that sounds wild, i’m sure i can get an “amen” on UFC judges not exactly being the brightest..

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]]> By: Steve http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55115 Steve Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:40:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55115 this guy comes off as a moron. this guy comes off as a moron.

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]]> By: JJ Docker http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55107 JJ Docker Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:13:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55107 He wasn't completely playing with him, it was a mixture of caution, patient counter-striking and yes, at some some points, playing around. Silva was smart and as the most effective counter striker in MMA was waiting for Cote to attack so he could get inside or force him onto the cage and utilise his range. But Cote expected this as well and so tried to be effective in small doses, as in a few kicks or punches then reposition himself. He never really came at Silva, nor did Silva come at him. Its for this reason that many viewers were impressed with his performance; as he got to the 3rd with no damage. Obviously its impossible to prove but I think Silva could have turned it on in the 2nd, as he's always patient in the 1st, but didn't want to because a) Cote is a good technical striker and he could have got caught and b) wanted Cote to get comfortable whilst Silva found his range. If Cote still hadn't began to attack Silva more directly in the 3rd or 4th, had it gone that far, Im pretty sure Silva would have applied pressure on himself and won the fight by TKO. Again impossible to prove, but thats my opinion. I don't think Silva was being disrespectful to Cote just fighting cautiously and playing around in the process. If you look at his other fights he has done this occasionally as well i.e. the overly flambuoyant head bob-and-weave against Franklin. Its debatable as to whether Cote deserves a rematch. But in no way did he 'f--k' Silva up. Just gave a solid technical performance against Silva who was waiting for him to attack for 2 rounds. He wasn’t completely playing with him, it was a mixture of caution, patient counter-striking and yes, at some some points, playing around. Silva was smart and as the most effective counter striker in MMA was waiting for Cote to attack so he could get inside or force him onto the cage and utilise his range. But Cote expected this as well and so tried to be effective in small doses, as in a few kicks or punches then reposition himself. He never really came at Silva, nor did Silva come at him. Its for this reason that many viewers were impressed with his performance; as he got to the 3rd with no damage. Obviously its impossible to prove but I think Silva could have turned it on in the 2nd, as he’s always patient in the 1st, but didn’t want to because a) Cote is a good technical striker and he could have got caught and b) wanted Cote to get comfortable whilst Silva found his range.

If Cote still hadn’t began to attack Silva more directly in the 3rd or 4th, had it gone that far, Im pretty sure Silva would have applied pressure on himself and won the fight by TKO. Again impossible to prove, but thats my opinion. I don’t think Silva was being disrespectful to Cote just fighting cautiously and playing around in the process. If you look at his other fights he has done this occasionally as well i.e. the overly flambuoyant head bob-and-weave against Franklin.

Its debatable as to whether Cote deserves a rematch. But in no way did he ‘f–k’ Silva up. Just gave a solid technical performance against Silva who was waiting for him to attack for 2 rounds.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55103 HexRei Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:53:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55103 Yeah I can't see how anyone could score that fight for Cote, that's ridiculous. Silva's dominance was obvious, he was playing with Cote FFS. Yeah I can’t see how anyone could score that fight for Cote, that’s ridiculous. Silva’s dominance was obvious, he was playing with Cote FFS.

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]]> By: portland mma http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/cote-believes-he-got-the-better-of-silva/comment-page-1/#comment-55099 portland mma Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:24:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8326#comment-55099 "I’ll agree.. Cote WAS winning the fight when he lost.." What fight were you watching? “I’ll agree..
Cote WAS winning the fight when he lost..”

What fight were you watching?

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