Comments on: The UFC would consider having a heavyweight season of “The Ultimate Fighter” just for Kimbo Slice http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 15:31:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: The ILL SilverBack http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55263 The ILL SilverBack Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:28:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55263 Oh yeah..and what's with the retarded matchup comments..."Kimbo Vs. Brock"..lol Brock would kill kimbo with wrestling alone...I'm from Minnesota and I've wrestled in college at a tournament with Brock...da dude's a beast! He'll do well in this sport.. Oh yeah..and what’s with the retarded matchup comments…”Kimbo Vs. Brock”..lol Brock would kill kimbo with wrestling alone…I’m from Minnesota and I’ve wrestled in college at a tournament with Brock…da dude’s a beast! He’ll do well in this sport..

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]]> By: The ILL SilverBack http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55262 The ILL SilverBack Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:12:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55262 I really have to keep in mind that most of you all commenting on the internet are mere fans and not fighters... there are a lot of dumb comments out there. 1st..Kimbo is 34 not 36.... and he appears to be in better shape than most guys in any of the organizations out there..and age isn't as big an issues as people make it out to be... Remember a guy named Randy Cotoure? I believe he didn't start training in MMA til he was 33... granted he has a wrestling background but still... Looking at Kimbos standup...to be honest there are a lot of guys in the UFC that aren't as technically sound on the feet and that's just being honest.. As a fighter myself on Mike Reilly's Team Bison (with the like of.. Brett Rogers and Kelly Kobold)- I kinda have mixed feelings about guys such as Kibo and Brock...although Brock's situation is more understandable. Part of me congratulates Kimbo for using the avenue that he used to get himself noticed...it was pure genius... the power of technology...from youtube to fightin on Showtime and CBS, that was incredible and makin more money than 90% of the UFC. Honestly myself or noone can hate on that...hell the guy lived out of his car for a short period of time. And make no bones about it, Kimbo is and athlete, playing ball and the Univ. Of Miami and then later being cut by the Dolphins...the guys isn't just a street thug...walkin into the arena no matter how he looks or how he comes off..people should do there research. And as far as Dana White and the comments...come on now, he needs to worry about keeping his fighters under contract because Affliction seems to be slowly but surely snatchin them from him with his cheap ass... start paying your fighters the money their worth, that should be your focus, how the hell does Rashad Evans get a bonus of only $60,000 for completely knocking the F$ck out one of the Icons of the sport!? You mean to tell me u couldn't have made it a cool $100,000? Bullsh$t!lol Anyways..Kimbos career isn't over...really its up to him rather or not he wants to continue to pursue MMA...but again people need to stop hatin a guy for making a living and gettin mad because an organization decided to market him as a great MMA fighter. We fighters knew the deal prior to Kimbo gettin into the cage... we train all around clearly he was one dimensional from da gate...so really no true student of the game expected for him to be an all start in a sport that he just began training.. But what happens is...just like with Anderson's fight last weekend, people put all these expectations on guys. Putting Kimbo on the Show would be a good idea actually for Ratings and $$$ obviously...but really it would be a great experience for Kimbo as well...it wouldn't hurt to get some more training in...and lets be real the UFC is hurting for 185ers and heavyweights... if Dana was really smart he'd put my friend and Teammate on there with him: Brett "The Grim" Rogers...(smile) how bout that? I really have to keep in mind that most of you all commenting on the internet are mere fans and not fighters… there are a lot of dumb comments out there.

1st..Kimbo is 34 not 36…. and he appears to be in better shape than most guys in any of the organizations out there..and age isn’t as big an issues as people make it out to be… Remember a guy named Randy Cotoure? I believe he didn’t start training in MMA til he was 33… granted he has a wrestling background but still…

Looking at Kimbos standup…to be honest there are a lot of guys in the UFC that aren’t as technically sound on the feet and that’s just being honest..

As a fighter myself on Mike Reilly’s Team Bison (with the like of..
Brett Rogers and Kelly Kobold)- I kinda have mixed feelings about guys such as Kibo and Brock…although Brock’s situation is more understandable. Part of me congratulates Kimbo for using the avenue that he used to get himself noticed…it was pure genius… the power of technology…from youtube to fightin on Showtime and CBS, that was incredible and makin more money than 90% of the UFC. Honestly myself or noone can hate on that…hell the guy lived out of his car for a short period of time. And make no bones about it, Kimbo is and athlete, playing ball and the Univ. Of Miami and then later being cut by the Dolphins…the guys isn’t just a street thug…walkin into the arena no matter how he looks or how he comes off..people should do there research.

And as far as Dana White and the comments…come on now, he needs to worry about keeping his fighters under contract because Affliction seems to be slowly but surely snatchin them from him with his cheap ass… start paying your fighters the money their worth, that should be your focus, how the hell does Rashad Evans get a bonus of only $60,000 for completely knocking the F$ck out one of the Icons of the sport!? You mean to tell me u couldn’t have made it a cool $100,000? Bullsh$t!lol

Anyways..Kimbos career isn’t over…really its up to him rather or not he wants to continue to pursue MMA…but again people need to stop hatin a guy for making a living and gettin mad because an organization decided to market him as a great MMA fighter. We fighters knew the deal prior to Kimbo gettin into the cage… we train all around clearly he was one dimensional from da gate…so really no true student of the game expected for him to be an all start in a sport that he just began training.. But what happens is…just like with Anderson’s fight last weekend, people put all these expectations on guys.

Putting Kimbo on the Show would be a good idea actually for Ratings and $$$ obviously…but really it would be a great experience for Kimbo as well…it wouldn’t hurt to get some more training in…and lets be real the UFC is hurting for 185ers and heavyweights… if Dana was really smart he’d put my friend and Teammate on there with him: Brett “The Grim” Rogers…(smile) how bout that?

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]]> By: Shatner http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55250 Shatner Wed, 29 Oct 2008 05:11:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55250 I'd like to see Kimbo Slice vs. Houston Alexander. I’d like to see Kimbo Slice vs. Houston Alexander.

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]]> By: ragefightingwear http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55247 ragefightingwear Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:36:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55247 Do it KIMBO! Do it KIMBO!

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]]> By: Kimo^13 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55244 Kimo^13 Wed, 29 Oct 2008 03:05:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55244 I think this is a great opratunity for Kimo, hence he is still just learning the MMA fighting still, that is a big jump from a street fighter to being a profesional MMA fighter, he's still wet behind the ears, give him a chance let some of the bigger camps and better trained fighters teach him, we all know he alrdy has some power in his hands, now let's just get the endurance up and his ground game. I think this is a great opratunity for Kimo, hence he is still just learning the MMA fighting still, that is a big jump from a street fighter to being a profesional MMA fighter, he’s still wet behind the ears, give him a chance let some of the bigger camps and better trained fighters teach him, we all know he alrdy has some power in his hands, now let’s just get the endurance up and his ground game.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55230 HexRei Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:06:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55230 <b>Grappo on October 28th, 2008 6:28 am Dana’s tactic of thoroughly insulting Kimbo while at the same time trying to get him on TUF is very strange.</b> Provoking him publicly like that is a good tactic, because if Kimbo takes him up on the offer, he can get the drawing power of Kimbo without having to make the same mistakes EXC did of playing Kimbo up as the next big thing when in fact he is mediocre right now. Grappo on October 28th, 2008 6:28 am

Dana’s tactic of thoroughly insulting Kimbo while at the same time trying to get him on TUF is very strange.

Provoking him publicly like that is a good tactic, because if Kimbo takes him up on the offer, he can get the drawing power of Kimbo without having to make the same mistakes EXC did of playing Kimbo up as the next big thing when in fact he is mediocre right now.

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]]> By: Schlegel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55227 Schlegel Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:29:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55227 "Well I guess it depends on his goals. He probably just wants to make some money instead of try to be the best. That’s cool if thats what he wants to do but he’s said in interviews that he came to be a champion." I still don't see how anything Kimbo did hurt his chase of a championship? Hired a great trainer and got in one of the bigger orgs(at the time obv), we all know it isn't up to Kimbo who he fights. I think he was, and presumably is, doing what it takes to be a champion, which is being there and being game, training hard and giving everything he has. I don't think anyone has shown that Kimbo lacked in any of those areas. I just think Kimbo is taking blame for things that Shaw and others did incorrectly. The one argument I could understand is that Kimbo could have left when they promoted him that way, but like I stated earlier. They threw ALOT of money at him and i just can't blame a guy for trying to better his situation. “Well I guess it depends on his goals. He probably just wants to make some money instead of try to be the best. That’s cool if thats what he wants to do but he’s said in interviews that he came to be a champion.”

I still don’t see how anything Kimbo did hurt his chase of a championship?

Hired a great trainer and got in one of the bigger orgs(at the time obv), we all know it isn’t up to Kimbo who he fights. I think he was, and presumably is, doing what it takes to be a champion, which is being there and being game, training hard and giving everything he has. I don’t think anyone has shown that Kimbo lacked in any of those areas.

I just think Kimbo is taking blame for things that Shaw and others did incorrectly. The one argument I could understand is that Kimbo could have left when they promoted him that way, but like I stated earlier. They threw ALOT of money at him and i just can’t blame a guy for trying to better his situation.

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]]> By: Jason G http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55191 Jason G Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:48:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55191 Well I guess it depends on his goals. He probably just wants to make some money instead of try to be the best. That's cool if thats what he wants to do but he's said in interviews that he came to be a champion. Well I guess it depends on his goals. He probably just wants to make some money instead of try to be the best. That’s cool if thats what he wants to do but he’s said in interviews that he came to be a champion.

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]]> By: Grappo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55180 Grappo Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:28:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55180 Dana's tactic of thoroughly insulting Kimbo while at the same time trying to get him on TUF is very strange. Dana’s tactic of thoroughly insulting Kimbo while at the same time trying to get him on TUF is very strange.

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]]> By: ipunchbabies http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55165 ipunchbabies Tue, 28 Oct 2008 04:59:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55165 the sad thing is Kimbo didnt tell the dipshit gary shaw to promote him as "the baddest man on the planet." or the best fighter in the world. the sad thing is Kimbo didnt tell the dipshit gary shaw to promote him as “the baddest man on the planet.” or the best fighter in the world.

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]]> By: Jay http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55156 Jay Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:50:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55156 Kimbo wouldn't make it into the house! Kimbo wouldn’t make it into the house!

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]]> By: dr_whigham http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55148 dr_whigham Tue, 28 Oct 2008 01:00:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55148 Wow, Rider. I'm a US Marine, and even I thought that was jast a TAD bit excessive. Wow, Rider.

I’m a US Marine, and even I thought that was jast a TAD bit excessive.

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]]> By: Andy Y http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55144 Andy Y Tue, 28 Oct 2008 00:38:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55144 My suggestion to Kimbo stay away from the UFC. At 36 you gotta throw in the towel. I say better opportunities are coming his way. Hope he ran your Elite XC check to the bank. My suggestion to Kimbo stay away from the UFC. At 36 you gotta throw in the towel. I say better opportunities are coming his way. Hope he ran your Elite XC check to the bank.

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]]> By: JollyDV http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55123 JollyDV Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:31:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55123 Ditto what Schlegel just said. I really hope Kimbo has invested his winnings wisely. A chance to earn that kinda money in MMA with so little experience probably won't come around again and lets say it does via Affliction. Take the MONEY!!! Ditto what Schlegel just said. I really hope Kimbo has invested his winnings wisely. A chance to earn that kinda money in MMA with so little experience probably won’t come around again and lets say it does via Affliction. Take the MONEY!!!

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]]> By: batman http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55111 batman Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:31:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55111 Kimbo is way too old and way too cool to go on TUF. Thats a joke it will never happen just imagine how dumb that would be. Kimbo is way too old and way too cool to go on TUF. Thats a joke it will never happen just imagine how dumb that would be.

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]]> By: Schlegel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55102 Schlegel Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:46:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55102 "John it’s a little different when as fans we’re paying their salary. That means I’m the boss and your the boss which gives us the right to praise and criticize them. Maybe he should get rid of his POS manager, posse and whoever else is influencing him to make bad decisions. He’s not going progress as a fighter when his opponents are past their prime and no longer have the athleticism to compete. He needs to fight young up and coming fighters with similar fighting experience and constantly be challenged or he’ll never have a chance to be a champion." That was from jason G and I can not disagree more, I think it is hilarious that everyone bitches about how much money he is making and acts like that is a bad decision by Kimbo? LOL, which one of you wouldn't fight has-beens for 500,00? Why is it bad for him to fight guys that are a bit past their prime? Tons of up and coming fighters fight big names who have passed their hay-day in order to gain name recognition and money. I agree that EliteXC promoted him facetiously . They are the ones that made him the sensation. This dude dropped his street fighting image from day 1, signed up one of the best know and respected names as his trainer and aggressivly said that he would never fight in back yard brawls again. Everyone is so caught up on his hype, but which one of us wouldn't use that hype. This isn't a 24 year old kid coming in with hype and hoping to make a long career in MMA. This is a 36 year old guy trying to make money for himself and his loved ones. I think Fergy did exactly what I would have, made the money while he could and won as many as he could. Now that the rest of the world knows what he, Bas and Elite XC already knew, that he wasn't the best thing since sliced bread(sorry had to), he can start his rise from where he belongs. “John it’s a little different when as fans we’re paying their salary. That means I’m the boss and your the boss which gives us the right to praise and criticize them. Maybe he should get rid of his POS manager, posse and whoever else is influencing him to make bad decisions.

He’s not going progress as a fighter when his opponents are past their prime and no longer have the athleticism to compete. He needs to fight young up and coming fighters with similar fighting experience and constantly be challenged or he’ll never have a chance to be a champion.”

That was from jason G and I can not disagree more, I think it is hilarious that everyone bitches about how much money he is making and acts like that is a bad decision by Kimbo? LOL, which one of you wouldn’t fight has-beens for 500,00? Why is it bad for him to fight guys that are a bit past their prime? Tons of up and coming fighters fight big names who have passed their hay-day in order to gain name recognition and money. I agree that EliteXC promoted him facetiously . They are the ones that made him the sensation. This dude dropped his street fighting image from day 1, signed up one of the best know and respected names as his trainer and aggressivly said that he would never fight in back yard brawls again.

Everyone is so caught up on his hype, but which one of us wouldn’t use that hype. This isn’t a 24 year old kid coming in with hype and hoping to make a long career in MMA. This is a 36 year old guy trying to make money for himself and his loved ones. I think Fergy did exactly what I would have, made the money while he could and won as many as he could. Now that the rest of the world knows what he, Bas and Elite XC already knew, that he wasn’t the best thing since sliced bread(sorry had to), he can start his rise from where he belongs.

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]]> By: Jay K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55100 Jay K. Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:25:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55100 Sam, What was the prior offer? Did I miss it somewhere? Sam,

What was the prior offer? Did I miss it somewhere?

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]]> By: bigmike265 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55090 bigmike265 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:04:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55090 Kimbo vs. Lesnar.....bring it Kimbo vs. Lesnar…..bring it

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]]> By: Shatner http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55068 Shatner Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:57:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55068 Dana bringing this up is a joke anyway of all the seasons of TUF including the one coming up they have had 1 group of heavyweights and the guy that won is fighting at light heavyweight now he would give anything if they could come up with enough quality fighters to have a season of Heavyweights on TUF,but there are not enough good heavyweights out there not under contract to put on the show who could compete at the UFC level. Dana bringing this up is a joke anyway of all the seasons of TUF including the one coming up they have had 1 group of heavyweights and the guy that won is fighting at light heavyweight now he would give anything if they could come up with enough quality fighters to have a season of Heavyweights on TUF,but there are not enough good heavyweights out there not under contract to put on the show who could compete at the UFC level.

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]]> By: Jason G http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/27/the-ufc-would-consider-having-a-heavyweight-season-of-the-ultimate-fighter-just-for-kimbo-slice/comment-page-1/#comment-55064 Jason G Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:42:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8322#comment-55064 John it's a little different when as fans we're paying their salary. That means I'm the boss and your the boss which gives us the right to praise and criticize them. Maybe he should get rid of his POS manager, posse and whoever else is influencing him to make bad decisions. He's not going progress as a fighter when his opponents are past their prime and no longer have the athleticism to compete. He needs to fight young up and coming fighters with similar fighting experience and constantly be challenged or he'll never have a chance to be a champion. John it’s a little different when as fans we’re paying their salary. That means I’m the boss and your the boss which gives us the right to praise and criticize them. Maybe he should get rid of his POS manager, posse and whoever else is influencing him to make bad decisions.

He’s not going progress as a fighter when his opponents are past their prime and no longer have the athleticism to compete. He needs to fight young up and coming fighters with similar fighting experience and constantly be challenged or he’ll never have a chance to be a champion.

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