Comments on: Phillipe Nover: Thoughts on Junie as a fighter; Vinny disrespects Nogueira; personal appearance info; and more in weekly TUF 8 blog http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 15:31:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Jeff Zentner http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-56275 Jeff Zentner Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:29:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-56275 Even in boxing you see undeserved fighters getting the nod for a title opportunity... Sugar Ray Leonard was not a rated fighter when he beat Hagler for the title in 87. He hadn't fought a rated fighter himself in like 5 years prior to their fight. The reality is the almighty dollar is what makes the fights, not fighter ratings. Even in boxing you see undeserved fighters getting the nod for a title opportunity… Sugar Ray Leonard was not a rated fighter when he beat Hagler for the title in 87. He hadn’t fought a rated fighter himself in like 5 years prior to their fight. The reality is the almighty dollar is what makes the fights, not fighter ratings.

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55700 JOe K. Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:22:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55700 NOVER - Thanks for your response! I hope Machida wins that title or wins in a idiot-fan pleasing manor against Thiago Silva so he can get above or off of the UFC's blacklist. Their treating him as if he complained about their pay scale! We all know how much they hate that. MR ROZE - How many losses did Anderson have in the Octagon before getting that title shot? Oh yeah, none. How many fights did Anderson have before getting that shot? 18 with 4 losses one being a DQ. How many other worthy middleweights were ahead of Silva at that time? Tanner had lost the title, Leben had just lost, Marquardt, Hendo weren't in the UFC, and Bisping still isn't ready for a shot. Lesnar: Losses in Octagon prior to titleshot: 1 with a total of 3 fights. How many other worthy Heavyweights: The first and most obvious choice would be Nog because he was stripped of the title (interim holder my ass, it looked as if Couture was getting black balled till the end.) Frank Mir, hell, even Shane Carwin. I don't think that Brock is a bad fighter, I think he will probably win the title what bothers me is that the UFC puts the competitive sport aspect so far behind the sports entertainment aspect. If this keeps happening you will see guys like Gray Manard on their knees after a fight begging the crowd for forgiveness after winning a fight. Every time the fight goes to the ground within 2 to 5 seconds you'll start hearing the ref say "Come on guys, work or I'll stand you up" no matter what is happening. You will see the wrestling die and then you will start to see jiu jistsu go. NOVER – Thanks for your response! I hope Machida wins that title or wins in a idiot-fan pleasing manor against Thiago Silva so he can get above or off of the UFC’s blacklist.

Their treating him as if he complained about their pay scale! We all know how much they hate that.

MR ROZE – How many losses did Anderson have in the Octagon before getting that title shot? Oh yeah, none.

How many fights did Anderson have before getting that shot? 18 with 4 losses one being a DQ.

How many other worthy middleweights were ahead of Silva at that time? Tanner had lost the title, Leben had just lost, Marquardt, Hendo weren’t in the UFC, and Bisping still isn’t ready for a shot.

Lesnar: Losses in Octagon prior to titleshot: 1 with a total of 3 fights.

How many other worthy Heavyweights: The first and most obvious choice would be Nog because he was stripped of the title (interim holder my ass, it looked as if Couture was getting black balled till the end.) Frank Mir, hell, even Shane Carwin.

I don’t think that Brock is a bad fighter, I think he will probably win the title what bothers me is that the UFC puts the competitive sport aspect so far behind the sports entertainment aspect.

If this keeps happening you will see guys like Gray Manard on their knees after a fight begging the crowd for forgiveness after winning a fight.

Every time the fight goes to the ground within 2 to 5 seconds you’ll start hearing the ref say “Come on guys, work or I’ll stand you up” no matter what is happening.

You will see the wrestling die and then you will start to see jiu jistsu go.

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]]> By: Phillipe Nover http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55660 Phillipe Nover Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:17:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55660 THORAZINE thanks for verifying that! =) THORAZINE thanks for verifying that! =)

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]]> By: Phillipe Nover http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55659 Phillipe Nover Sun, 02 Nov 2008 03:17:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55659 shatto1 - Thanks for some good input. I'm training in Brooklyn NY still with the same camp. Team Insight. JOe K. - Machida is a beast. I don't know when they may show any footage of him training us. I don't think they'll show it. I don't know why they won't. His style is amazing! I heard from Nog that Machida practices kata everyday with his father. He's a well disciplined martial artist. shatto1 – Thanks for some good input. I’m training in Brooklyn NY still with the same camp. Team Insight.

JOe K. – Machida is a beast. I don’t know when they may show any footage of him training us. I don’t think they’ll show it. I don’t know why they won’t. His style is amazing! I heard from Nog that Machida practices kata everyday with his father. He’s a well disciplined martial artist.

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]]> By: THORAZINE http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55567 THORAZINE Sat, 01 Nov 2008 05:30:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55567 What I don't think Mingowar, gets is that Nover is writing his thoughts reflecting his perspective back when he was in the TUF house during the taping of that particular episode. Apparently Junie and Nover have maintained a friendship so there's more to the story as we will get in upcoming blogs from Nover. What I don’t think Mingowar, gets is that Nover is writing his thoughts reflecting his perspective back when he was in the TUF house during the taping of that particular episode. Apparently Junie and Nover have maintained a friendship so there’s more to the story as we will get in upcoming blogs from Nover.

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]]> By: MR ROZE http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55557 MR ROZE Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:24:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55557 Hey JOe K how many wins did Anderson Silva have in the octagon before he got his title shot? Oh yeah one. I remember Rich Franklin saying he didn't think Silva deserved a title shot either, what do you think Franklin thinks now, there is a reason hes fighting in a different weight class now. I think Lesnar has the potenial to dominate the heavyweight division b/c of his wrestling background, strength and athleticism. Hey JOe K how many wins did Anderson Silva have in the octagon before he got his title shot? Oh yeah one. I remember Rich Franklin saying he didn’t think Silva deserved a title shot either, what do you think Franklin thinks now, there is a reason hes fighting in a different weight class now. I think Lesnar has the potenial to dominate the heavyweight division b/c of his wrestling background, strength and athleticism.

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55518 JOe K. Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:54:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55518 Nover, Do you think Machida footage will end up on the show in later episodes? Or was he only there for one day? I'm kind of a Machida fanatic. He has a shroud of mysteriousness surrounding him. Thanks, JOe K. Nover,

Do you think Machida footage will end up on the show in later episodes? Or was he only there for one day?

I’m kind of a Machida fanatic. He has a shroud of mysteriousness surrounding him.

Thanks,
JOe K.

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]]> By: shatto1 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55490 shatto1 Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:27:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55490 Nover, I really respect you has a fighter and a person. From what I've seen I think your muay thai is world class and it is a pleasure to watch. It is good to hear about the show from someone who shares a perspective similar to my own. I know you are making the most of this opportunity, I can always tell who is taking it seriously because they are never on the show. It must be amazing training with the likes of Nog, Silva, and Machida (why all the hate from everybody?) Where are you training these days? I have a feeling we will be seeing you in the UFC. (Hopefully sooner than later.) Nover,
I really respect you has a fighter and a person. From what I’ve seen I think your muay thai is world class and it is a pleasure to watch.
It is good to hear about the show from someone who shares a perspective similar to my own. I know you are making the most of this opportunity, I can always tell who is taking it seriously because they are never on the show. It must be amazing training with the likes of Nog, Silva, and Machida (why all the hate from everybody?)
Where are you training these days? I have a feeling we will be seeing you in the UFC. (Hopefully sooner than later.)

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]]> By: brad http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55480 brad Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:59:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55480 I fought in 1935 in an illegal mma fight club... Oh boy we could beat each other good and then go get a couple cold ones and go fishin....i once fought a guy on the fishiong dock and he fell off, got caught on a hook, mistaken for a fish later on and we ate him...johny boblobski....i love that man , sorry boby, if i would do anything to fish with ya agian but i ate u :( i love u buddy, .. I fought in 1935 in an illegal mma fight club… Oh boy we could beat each other good and then go get a couple cold ones and go fishin….i once fought a guy on the fishiong dock and he fell off, got caught on a hook, mistaken for a fish later on and we ate him…johny boblobski….i love that man , sorry boby, if i would do anything to fish with ya agian but i ate u :( i love u buddy, ..

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]]> By: Phillipe Nover http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55470 Phillipe Nover Fri, 31 Oct 2008 04:16:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55470 I just finished reading all you reviews. Thanks for all the comments. Even the negative ones. I like hearing all you thoughts. But I have to say thanks to all the guys who comment on my blog and have some faith in me. You guys rock. And chuntsmanbjj, I'm sorry if you think I'm judging guys. But please understand this is a blog and I was there to experience the whole thing with my own eyes. I want to bring my thoughts to the table along with what really happened. mingowar - I'm not on Junie's nuts brother. And I don't even think I disrespected him at all. I brought the facts man. He and I are good friends and still talk to this day. He knows he made plenty of mistakes about his behavior on the show. I like your comment about Junie kicking my butt though. haha Machida did show up and train us before Anderson came. He came the day after he beat tito. Machida is a great coach as well. I like his fighting style. He got Tito really frustrated. I just finished reading all you reviews. Thanks for all the comments. Even the negative ones. I like hearing all you thoughts. But I have to say thanks to all the guys who comment on my blog and have some faith in me. You guys rock.

And chuntsmanbjj, I’m sorry if you think I’m judging guys. But please understand this is a blog and I was there to experience the whole thing with my own eyes. I want to bring my thoughts to the table along with what really happened.

mingowar – I’m not on Junie’s nuts brother. And I don’t even think I disrespected him at all. I brought the facts man. He and I are good friends and still talk to this day. He knows he made plenty of mistakes about his behavior on the show. I like your comment about Junie kicking my butt though. haha

Machida did show up and train us before Anderson came. He came the day after he beat tito. Machida is a great coach as well. I like his fighting style. He got Tito really frustrated.

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]]> By: Danillo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55444 Danillo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:22:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55444 "In the Philippines, we’d call Vinny a “Playboy.” He’s the kind of guy that young girls want, but mothers should watch out for." its the same here in Brazil, Nover. he acts like a rich kid... everyone hates him here... “In the Philippines, we’d call Vinny a “Playboy.” He’s the kind of guy that young girls want, but mothers should watch out for.”

its the same here in Brazil, Nover. he acts like a rich kid… everyone hates him here…

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]]> By: chuntsmanbjj http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55433 chuntsmanbjj Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:05:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55433 Philipe better be gnarly after all the fighter judging he does.... Philipe better be gnarly after all the fighter judging he does….

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55421 JOe K. Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:37:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55421 This may be a conspiracy theory but perhaps the UFC is upset with Machida's fighting style and trying to make him go un-noticed. I think that they are terrified of becoming a champ because he would be "un-marketable" If thats the case then this sport may turn into a soap opera like WWE. Lesnar 1 win in the octagon and a title shot!? This may be a conspiracy theory but perhaps the UFC is upset with Machida’s fighting style and trying to make him go un-noticed.

I think that they are terrified of becoming a champ because he would be “un-marketable”

If thats the case then this sport may turn into a soap opera like WWE. Lesnar 1 win in the octagon and a title shot!?

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]]> By: T - Coy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55420 T - Coy Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:32:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55420 Your an amazing fighter and if you fight next week i think were gonna see some serious skills Your an amazing fighter and if you fight next week i think were gonna see some serious skills

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]]> By: fabian http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55414 fabian Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:31:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55414 Yeah,I saw machida there too. Silva should fight bengi radach for a bang out war. Yeah,I saw machida there too. Silva should fight bengi radach for a bang out war.

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]]> By: TBird http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55409 TBird Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:38:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55409 Sounds like someone is fighting next week. haha. I know there is a KO coming up for some poor LW. Sounds like someone is fighting next week. haha. I know there is a KO coming up for some poor LW.

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]]> By: freedom fighter http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55408 freedom fighter Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:30:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55408 mingowar sounds like the willnots that fall off junies balls.you probably never been in a fight in your entire life .punk another ruff tuff cream puff.sit down shut up and go back to your ps2 biotch lol mingowar sounds like the willnots that fall off junies balls.you probably never been in a fight in your entire life .punk another ruff tuff cream puff.sit down shut up and go back to your ps2 biotch lol

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]]> By: Jeff L http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55404 Jeff L Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:53:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55404 You talk a lot of trash for someone supposedly preaching respect, old man. You talk a lot of trash for someone supposedly preaching respect, old man.

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]]> By: Glen McCoy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55401 Glen McCoy Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:37:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55401 I am 56 years old and fought when mma was called toughman contest.I was taught by Ed Parker the top Kempo man in the world.I have never I mean never seen someone show disrespect like Junie. I have never seen anyone BITCH out like Frank Mir.Junie has made Mir his personal bitch.Why wont Mire just tell Junie to sit down and shut up.Mir is showing disrespect to himself the other fighters and the sport by trying to be a high school BITCH to junie.Mir should be ashamed of himself.and his actions.Frank Mir should go home and beg his famly to forgive him for the embarassment he has caused. I am 56 years old and fought when mma was called toughman contest.I was taught by Ed Parker the top Kempo man in the world.I have never I mean never seen someone show disrespect like Junie. I have never seen anyone BITCH out like Frank Mir.Junie has made Mir his personal bitch.Why wont Mire just tell Junie to sit down and shut up.Mir is showing disrespect to himself the other fighters and the sport by trying to be a high school BITCH to junie.Mir should be ashamed of himself.and his actions.Frank Mir should go home and beg his famly to forgive him for the embarassment he has caused.

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]]> By: Guy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/10/29/phillipe-nover-thoughts-on-junie-as-a-fighter-vinny-disrespects-nogueira-personal-appearance-info-and-more-in-weekly-tuf-8-blog/comment-page-1/#comment-55400 Guy Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:30:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8377#comment-55400 Next week you fight ! ( on tv lol ) kick his ass Guy,Israel Next week you fight ! ( on tv lol )
kick his ass

Guy,Israel

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