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Chuck Liddell vs. Anderson Silva: A fight that has to happen

James Irvin and Patrick Cote: two capable, professional mixed martial artists worthy of competing in the UFC. However, when you talk about the number one pound-for-pound fighter in the world, neither Irvin or Cote have the sex appeal needed to cause mass excitement.

In order for a fighter to achieve true greatness, he needs to be involved in memorable fights. And memorable fights are hard to come by if the public is only intrigued by just one of the participants. Case and point: people will tune in to watch the Boston Celtics play the Memphis Grizzlies, but even more will tune in if the Celtics play the Lakers. “Sugar” Ray Leonard was a great fighter with quite a following, but it was his fights vs. Roberto Duran and Marvin Hagler that allowed him to become an icon.

The concept of having two strong competitors challenge each other’s dominance is what really captivates an audience’s imagination and this basic principle applies not just to sports, but even in movies. What do you think is going to do better at the box office: Batman going head-to-head with The Joker, or Batman against some generic no-name villain? And when George Lucas writes a Star Wars screenplay, you don’t see the movies climaxing with Darth Vader taking on middle-of-the-road Jedis, he’s always matched up against the Rebellion’s number one gun, whether it be Obi-Wan Kenobi or his own son, Luke Skywalker.

It doesn’t take a genius to understand that people just don’t want to see stars competing, they want to see stars competing against other stars. When it comes to Anderson Silva, the idea of continuing to feature him in fights against competitors that cannot rival his star is one that makes little sense. Regardless of the weight class, it’s time to allow Silva to go to the next level by matching him up with some of the biggest names in the business.

Silva vs. Irvin did a good rating during UFC Fight Night 14 on Spike this past July because it was marketed so well. Silva or Liddell vs. a broomstick could probably do well on free television because their names mean something and people want to see stars fight. But there’s a difference between drawing a good rating on free television and drawing a great buyrate on pay-per-view.

In order to make major money, Silva is going to need to fight competition equal or greater to his stature. And in order for him to create a legacy that is truly timeless, he’s going to need to start fighting big names. I don’t think anyone of sound mind is going to dispute that Rich Franklin and Dan Henderson are top fighters, but in order for Silva to reach a new level of stardom, he’s going to have to take a step up in class.

Based on my feelings highlighted above, there’s one fight out there that makes perfect sense for Silva’s next bout and that is a matchup against Chuck Liddell. To me, Liddell vs. Silva is a no-brainer. Unfortunately, a Liddell vs. Silva mega-fight doesn’t hold the same appeal with the only man whose opinion counts, UFC President Dana White.

“I would hope a Liddell fight is made soon,” Kevin Iole wrote in response to a reader in a recent mailbag column for Yahoo! Sports. “But when my colleague, Dan Wetzel, and I asked White that question almost simultaneously, White seemed to laugh it off and said he didn’t know. He didn’t seem all that interested. I had talked with him about it in a private phone conversation about 10 days earlier and he was no more interested in it then. I’m not saying it won’t happen, just that Dana doesn’t seem enthused by the idea.”

Wow, if White isn’t enthused by Liddell vs. Silva then he might be one of the few mixed martial arts fans in the world that feels that way. Then again, White has a vastly different perspective than a typical fan. He has both a business and personal attachment to Liddell. The company has spent tens of millions of dollars turning Liddell into MMA’s equivilient to Hulk Hogan; a larger than life figure who serves as a face for the sport. White is also close friends with Liddell so he’s likely going to handle his career with great care.

White probably isn’t enthused about the prospect of Liddell vs. Silva due to the fact that Liddell has lost three of his last four fights. If he fights Silva, the streak grows to losses in four out of his last five fights. We’ve been told by pundits time and again that Liddell’s marketing appeal is similar to that of a fighter in Japan in that people want to pay to see him fight win or lose. However, four losses in five fights would put that theory to the test.

While people would still pay to see Liddell fight even in spite of a loss to Silva, his fanbase would decrease. Whenever you hear about a fighting icon that begins to look less than dominant then the name Mike Tyson is introduced and he’s cited as an example of a fighter that can remain a box office draw in spite of losses. That might be the case but Tyson’s drawing power weakened with every poor effort until he was reduced to a complete mockery.

Nobody knows for sure but my guess is that White doesn’t want to see Liddell vs. Silva because he knows it could mean the end of “The Iceman.” But as a businessman, White can’t let personal feelings influence major decisions. Both Liddell and Silva need to fight again soon and there’s no legitimate reason for the two not to fight each other.

If Silva is to be believed, he only has five fights left. And regardless of what Liddell or White might like to acknowledge, Liddell has probably even fewer fights left. With the biological clocks of both Silva and Liddell ticking, there’s no time for foreplay in regards to what remains in their careers. It’s time to get down to business for both fighters and it makes little sense for them to compete in bouts against fighters that do not rival their star-power.

Unless your last name is Cote, chances are you have no desire to see Silva vs. Cote II. And don’t waste your breath bringing up Yushin Okami. He’s booked to fight Dec. 27 vs. Dean Lister. There’s no guarantee he wins that fight and if he does the chances are he won’t be ready to fight again until March at the earliest. And if Okami wins then he can wait. If built up properly, a fight between Silva vs. Michael Bisping could be big, but Bisping isn’t ready yet. Thales Leites? He’s still 1-2 wins away. There’s no one at 185 pounds currently on the UFC roster for Silva to fight within the next two-to-three months.

Choosing Silva’s next opponent is a complicated affair but the process is probably just as difficult in regards to Liddell. Who does Liddell fight next? Rashad Evans and Keith Jardine were middle tier in the UFC’s stacked 205 pound division before their wins over Liddell. If you try and match Liddell up with another mid-grade 205’er and he loses, that could drive him into retirement.

UFC officials could always elect to go below mid-grade for Liddell’s next opponent and match him up with someone such as James Irvin or Houston Alexander, but both have heavy hands and could once again test Liddell’s suspect chin. Not to mention, White would look like a major hypocrite in light of everything he said about Kimbo Slice if he transparently goes out and starts trying to schedule layup wins for Liddell.

If the UFC has the best interest of its fans in mind, they’ll make a match between Liddell and Silva before they match either fighter with anyone else.

48 COMMENTS
  • Shatner says:

    Chuck Liddell vs. Anderson Silva needs to happen only if you want to see Chuck get smashed again and that’s exactly what would happen.

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  • ttttt says:

    chuck could win it will all come down to one punch

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  • KMac says:

    Good read. Nicely illustrates the corner that Silva’s dominance has painted them into.

    A. Silva vs Chuck would be a huge fight, in terms of $$$, but does anyone see it going differently than Franklin’s fights against Silva? As much as I love Chuck, and do still think he can compete at a high level, I don’t see him able to compete at Silva’s level.

    I think the fight would be short and very one sided. After that, Chuck is done, and no one wants to buy a PPV to watch Silva crush lesser fighters quickly. I only see it working long term if it is one of or THE last fight of either or both fighters.

    Though it lacks the marketablity, I think a rematch with Hendo is more compelling. Have it on the same card as Chuck vs. Rich Franklin. Then, if Chuck wins, you can hype him against Silva, knowing that it will probably be one of the last fights for either guy. I

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  • KTru says:

    Seriously please dont have Chuck fight Spider. Silva will pick him apart and destroy him. The legend that is the “Iceman” has been tarnished enough.

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  • Grappo says:

    “If the UFC has the best interest of its fans in mind, they’ll make a match between Liddell and Silva before they match either fighter with anyone else.”

    It’s too bad they don’t.

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  • Tomg says:

    The best option right now for both Chuck Liddell and the UFC is for Chuck to fight Brandon Vera at the event to be held in the Phillipines sometime in 2009. People came out in droves just to see him train at the mall, and fighting hometown boy Brandon Vera there would be huge.

    Also, Brandon Vera has looked pretty much awful lately, but a win over him would still be big for Chuck and the UFC.

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  • Tony Fennen says:

    Silva by submission….
    Chuck by retirement

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  • JOe K. says:

    I really don’t like Liddell at all but I would hardly call his chin suspect. I am not sure anyone on the planet would have not been knocked out by that shot that Evans landed.

    A good fight I would like to see is Marquardt/Silva II. It may not have all of the initial ultra-casual fan (who boos at shows and may end up ruining the sport) marketing appeal.

    But it would most likely be the fight of the night. Marquardt is a beast and IMO the #1 contender. That shit would be a blood bath.

    As far as Liddell I’m not sure who I would feed him to. Wanderlei Silva or Tito Ortiz?

    Maybe Ken Shamrock or Seth Petruzelli :)

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  • weoweoweo says:

    i agree, brandon vera vs chuck liddell in the Philippines. Maybe shogun could also be a highprofile fight for the ufc. If you let him fight silva, he’ll lose, and he’s done. Let him fight vera, then shogun or wandy. At least non of those fights will be mismatches, the fans win, and the UFC has a better chance of keeping their star.

    cause cmon, i would rather watch chuck and wandy 2 than chuck getting murdered by silva. It would be like watching him beat up on franklin again.

    Silva vs Jardine then let him go for the title against forrest or evans. If silva becomes champion, and chuck wins against wandy/shogun/vera or maybe 2 of those fights, only then should they be matched up. At least it could be a good farewell fight if chuck loses, and if chuck wins then he can fight more or retire as a champ and dana white is happy. Any way that this goes, the fans still win.

    agree?

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  • Mark One says:

    I would like to see Wanderlei vs Anderson. Wanderlei has already spoken about dropping a weight and he’s definately a big enough name to draw viewers…but will it happen??

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  • Infernal says:

    While I definitely agree that Anderson Silva needs to be given some bigger name opposition, I wonder if putting in two counter strikers in the octagon together makes a lot of sense. Both Silva and Liddell have the ability to exploit overcommitment in exchanges and operate best against opponents who will come forward. That’s why I think a Wanderlei Silva – Anderson Silva matchup would be more exciting.

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  • braveheart says:

    I don’t think they should face each other! Forget Machida v T.Silva

    Chuck Liddell vs Llyoto Machida

    Anderson Silva vs Thiago Silva

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  • Guy Gaduois says:

    I agree with JoeK. Nate’s a vastly different fighter; bigger, stronger, faster. I wonder if he’d want the fight, though?

    I would like to see the vaunted Lyoto Machida fight Anderson Silva. That could be very interesting. I’d rather see Thiago Silva fight Machida first, but I’d take a Silva v. Machida.

    I don’t think anyone on the scene in MW or LHW can beat Anderson Silva.

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  • mike wolfe says:

    Before throwing Silva in with Liddell, UFC should have Silva fight one or two legit light heavies. Silva is the best p4p fighter, but he gives up a lot of weight when he moves up to 205. A few fights would create some anticipation for a possible match up with Liddell and prove that Silva’s able to compete against the best of that weight class.

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  • Goomba says:

    I think a fight against Chuck would be a lot like Cote vs. Silva and Chuck vs. Rashad, with Silva back-pedaling and frustrating Chuck for the first round. Jardine, Rampage, and Rashad have made a pretty good blue-print for beating Chuck, and with Silva’s precision and speed, it would not be a hard fight for him. I don’t think he could get motivated for that fight.

    I would rather see Thiago Silva vs. Anderson Silva or Wanderlei Silva vs. Anderson Silva at 205. Or, if Hendo dominates Franklin, that would be another good matchup, but he will be booked for TUF 9 and waste his skills.

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  • Prophet says:

    At this point, I’m not going to get excited about any fight with Chuck in it. If A. Silva were to move up to 205 again, it should be against the winner of Rampage and Shogun. THAT would be a blockbuster ppv.

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  • RJA says:

    I’ve been saying i’d like to see that fight since i found out that silva was willing to move up to 205.I’m a huge lidell fan,and know it could end his career but i feel he needs a huge win to reestablish his career.like stated in above article it could happen in any other matchup,so why not through all of your eggs in 1 basket.There’s no other big matchup you could put him in were it wouldn’t be a slap in the face to the other 205 contenders. (good article by the way love the analogies

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  • ChilliwackDave says:

    I think Anderson will not want to keep cutting so much weight to defend his title while trying to fight at 205. I bet he will let Bisping and Henderson fight for the vacant title at the end of tuf 9. That way he can make a run for the light heavey title. You would think he would have to fight Liddel along the way.

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  • Itshisownfault says:

    Chuck versus Silva doesn’t make sense in the fact that Silva, while fighting someone with a big name, would be facing a fighter coming fresh off a devastating loss. There is almost no way Silva could top Rashad’s performance over Chuck. If the fight goes to a decision, even if Silva wins, he’s tarnished and casual fans will start to question how good he really is.

    Anderson needs to fight someone with a winning streak – not someone who’s considered past their prime, regardless of their name.

    Chuck on the other hand should fight the loser or Lyoto and Thiago to work his way back up. You can’t coddle the guy with easy opponents, but he sure as hell isn’t in the title picture. Personally I think he should move to heavyweight or if he could, down to middleweight and fight Paulo Filo.

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  • egad81 says:

    UFC is scared of Lyoto!
    He is someone I would like to see fight Anderson Silva.
    Hopefully the go toe to toe instead of dancing like in the Silva vs Cote fight.

    I think Anderson could beat anyone in the 205 division and probably be in the top 10 in the heavyweight division.

    BUT…. ANY GIVEN SUNDAY

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  • Cathedron says:

    Silva just needs to get into the LHW division and fast. I’m afraid that Dana White might be pissed with Silva thanks to all his retirement talk and doesn’t have faith in him. If the UFC is all about great fights, they should stop worrying so much about the MW belt and start getting Silva some real competition.

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  • weoweoweo says:

    lyoto is in the same camp as anderson silva so they wont fight each other.

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  • Glen McCoy says:

    Chuck Liddell to fight Junie Browning, remember Junie said he could beat any 205er.

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  • EJ says:

    Boy I don’t even know where to start with this laughable article, first off the idea that someone Dana is looking to protect Chuck is something i’d expect from a Sherdogger not someone like you Sam. Also calling Jardine and Rashad mid-tier LHW’s is also clearly wrong and just simpy uninformed, also again something that I would expect from a guy who knows little about MMA. Then you add to the fact that you call Chuck’s chin suspect?, you have to be kidding me right YouTube his fights Sam you might learn something. Chuck vs. Silva in an interesting fight i’d like to see it but I also know that it’s far from a must happen Liddell vs. Wand was a must happen, this is just a fight a bunch of wannabe Joe Silva’s have cooked up. .

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  • RJA says:

    EJ the point sam was trying to make was that it would be a potentially good fight for silvas legacy do to the popularity of each fighter regardles of there past,Chuck is still one of the biggest names in the sport.It could possibly be a great fight and a great test for silva.And there’s no LHW title implications for chuck in it so nobody can bitch about it being unfair to other 205 contenders.As for bisbing/hendo fighting for vacant title,Not happening silva already said his priority was to protect that MW belt.And for franklins sake i hope he means it.Oh and McCoy i would love to see that.

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  • RJA says:

    EJ i do agree however that lidell’s chin shouldn’t be in question,that rashard punch would of KO’d hercules,as for the rampage hit it put him down but it was the flurry after the punch that ended the fight.

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  • Anton K says:

    If Liddell is to fight again, or at all, he needs to fight only top tier opponents – The Jardine fight was a huge strategic miscalculation. After his loss to Rampage, Chuck should have fought Wanderlie – no disrespect to Jardine – it’s just that a win against Jardine would not have meant all that much to Chuck, while the loss for Chuck was devastating.

    Now Chuck and Dana are backed into a strategic corner. Chuck must win his next fight. In this game, however, we all know that anything can happen – so Chuck must fight an opponent of equal or greater value and skill – he can’t afford a loss against a fighter not percieved to be of his caliber.

    Perhaps the fight against A Silva makes sense… If Chuck wins a fight against a champion, he’d be catapulted back into the title race. If he loses, well, at least he’s lost to someone the public views as unstoppable… and Anderson’s star power would explode.

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  • Why the mismatch? says:

    This is probably a big money fight, but a complete mismatch. All you hypocrites probably bashed Kimbo and EXC for fighting cans. Just because they are both big names doesn’t mean the fight has to happen. Silva has to be given the best at 205.

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  • Robert says:

    I really don’t think Dana would let a Chuck vs. Anderson Silva fight happen too much of a chance for Chuck to get embarrassed again.

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  • RJA says:

    Well put anton.

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  • 3OAM says:

    Chuck’s recent octagonal outings haven’t illustrated his current worthiness for a belt of any kind.

    It would garner a lot of money and viewers, but it would be a throwaway fight. It would only further the rationale that UFC is more about the money than the sport.

    I mean, I’d watch it…but it would certainly put a sour taste in my mouth.

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  • HexRei says:

    3OAM on November 2nd, 2008 9:05 pm

    Chuck’s recent octagonal outings haven’t illustrated his current worthiness for a belt of any kind.

    It would garner a lot of money and viewers, but it would be a throwaway fight. It would only further the rationale that UFC is more about the money than the sport.

    I mean, I’d watch it…but it would certainly put a sour taste in my mouth.

    Since there is no way Chuck could make MW, the fight would be at LHW and thus not for any belt in the first place. This fight wouldn’t put a sour taste in my mouth, and it wouldn’t prove the UFC as all about money- it would be a contest between two great fighters and it would demonstrate that the UFC cares about putting on memorable bouts.

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  • 3OAM says:

    It would be a fight between a great fighter and a washed up legend.

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  • norm says:

    chuck would f*** up silva!!!!

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  • HexRei says:

    3OAM on November 2nd, 2008 10:55 pm

    It would be a fight between a great fighter and a washed up legend.

    Thankfully the rest of us have have watched MMA pre-2007 and understand what Chuck is capable of. Certainly he is not over the hill physically, he just needs to get his game straight and round out his skillset, something Randy was still doing at his age- and let’s not forget this guy beat Randy twice. For that matter, After his second loss to Liddell, Randy was able to bring his game back on track and pull himself back into top ten rankings. Chuck also beat Wanderlei Silva, is he washed up too? You don’t know what you’re talking about.

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  • mikee says:

    Why is Chuck’s chin suspect again Sam? I guess that I do not understand that accusation. If it is because Rashad layed him out then give me a break. That is what happens when all you do every single fight you are in is stand up and throw hands. Now just because Rampage and Rashad have caught him you are questioning his chin? Jesus. This is coming from someone that doesn’t even like Liddell, at all in fact but he doesn’t deserve that specific criticism. Another person I could really care less about is Patrick Cote, but he did hang in there and I don’t know if he was being toyed with or if Silva just couldn’t figure how to put him away but that fight had a very unresolved ending. I for one would like to see the sequal just to have some closure. I don’t think I stand alone on this.

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  • mikee says:

    Why is Chuck’s chin suspect again Sam? I guess that I do not understand that accusation. If it is because Rashad layed him out then give me a break. That is what happens when all you do every single fight you are in is stand up and throw hands. Now just because Rampage and Rashad have caught him you are questioning his chin? Jesus. This is coming from someone that doesn’t even like Liddell, at all in fact but he doesn’t deserve that specific criticism. Another person I could really care less about is Patrick Cote, but he did hang in there and I don’t know if he was being toyed with or if Silva just couldn’t figure how to put him away but that fight had a very unresolved ending. I for one would like to see the sequal just to have some closure. I don’t think I stand alone on this.

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  • Nemisis says:

    I dont see the appeal for this fight;Yes we have two of the biggest names in MMA,but really I disagree w this writer,& feel that true MMA fans (like myself) can find & would like multiple other match ups; Am so sick of people only knowing & talking about the big names,MMA is as big as its ever been,& I would think this writer here with the more available resources than me could have thought of some thing more insightfull, I expected better. There are tons of match ups to be made that would be better for the weight class & its progression;Sure the money comes 1st but really some of these fights coming up dont feel right.I mean no disrespect to any of these fighters but Cote Vs silva(Bcause there was no 1 else,Sorry Cote)Evans Vs Griffen(he knocked out the poster boy who was predicted to b next if he won,he lost so to the spoils go the victer)but why not Evans Vs Rampage 1st,or Henderson Vs Marquet,if so Liddell Vs R.Franklin would bank,& would do little damage to either fighter i retrospective,if Rich loses,he lost to chuvk & is new at 205 far from a tittle shot any way & liddel beat some 1 w a name,if Rich wins,he has a huge following & thts more bank for them,Sokoudjou Vs liddell,Brandon vera S.bonner,V.silva Vs L.cane, or even S.cantwell coming from the WEC as champ can fight Liddell,i mean there are other better marketable fights w less negative impact than Silva liddell,after all it is a buisness_ but to each his own U have ur opinnion & i have mine.

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  • CAP says:

    If Silva is eager to fight soon, as they are saying, put him on the December card and take the Okami match that he deserves. I would think Anderson would want to clear up that blemish on his record and then he could be done at middleweight after clearing it out and can move up from there to finish his career at LHW. I would still like to see him face Okami, Marquart again or Leites at MW but there are so many good match ups at LHW. Although I do see this as a bad match up for Chuck, what the hell let’s see it! Make these last fights count!

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  • bert zee says:

    i won’t pay to see it!!! gsp or forest griffin !!!!!! the best should fight the best

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  • ragefightingwear says:

    Silva rules 185, time to move on to mega-fights at 205.

    Chuck will be in trouble against Silva, none of that crap he brought to the Cote fight.

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  • steel toe keef says:

    How can you guys be so blind to see that the fight will never happen. Chuck is Dana’s golden boy. He won’t let the fight happen unless Chuck has a few buffer fights first. But then again here comes the double edged sword. Line up some nobodies for chuck to fight and get accused of being a hypocrite. Or, let the fight happen and chuck looses, well there goes the golden boy. I honestly think the fight would be great and if chuck does loose a few teeth than that would just be better for chuck and dana’s friday nights.(because teeth hurt) I think everybody should just accept the fact that chuck is done, a hasbeen, and washed up. He should just get into fighter scouting or training.

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  • mojo says:

    No interest in seeing this fight or even Silva v. Marquardt again. I still think we should see Silva v. Okami – let Silva avenge his “loss” and move on to another challenge. If he beats Okami, then maybe have a catch-weigh “superfight” with GSP (if he beats Penn).

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  • NJMMAFAN says:

    not saying i dont believe chuck could win that fight, but its totally unneccessary, why would chuck care wether or not silvas star explodes or whatever. dana would be better served giving chuck a relative nobody to beat up, and let him gradually work his way up the ladder again, for his sake and for danas since if chuck loses his appeal dana cant make dough off him. chucks one of my favorite fighters and im sure im not the only one to order a card just to see him fight. i just think he deserves to have a prolonged career and i think by risking a loss against silva he may lose that opportunity

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  • Konn says:

    I have nothing against chuck, but I don’t think he deserves a fight against anderson. He just came from a couple of devastating loses. That would simply not be fair to those who’ve been working their ass off to get a shot.

    IMO, Anderson is already one of the biggest stars in ufc. He doesn’t need chuck.

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  • Tom says:

    I dont understand the “suspect chin” comment since when does Liddell have a suspect chin, have you watched any of his other fights? Even watch Liddell vs Belfort and thats one example. That would be Vitor Belfort as you seem to be new to the sport.

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  • andrew says:

    CHUCK WILL SMASH SILVA. SILVA IS TOO YOUNG TO FIGHT AGAINST A VET. CHUCK HAS ONE PUNCH THAT WILL END IT ALL AND CHUCK WILL FIGHT AND BEAT HIM AND HE WILL KEEP FIGHTING FOR AWHILE

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  • tyler says:

    Turn off caps lock. TYPING IN ALL CAPS DOESN’T GET YOUR POINT COME ACROSS MORE. IT’S JUST ANNOYING.

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