Comments on: Chris Leben tests positive for steroids; suspended nine months http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/03/chris-leben-tests-positive-for-steroids-suspended-nine-months/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:14:30 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: JollyDV http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/03/chris-leben-tests-positive-for-steroids-suspended-nine-months/comment-page-1/#comment-55979 JollyDV Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:23:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8498#comment-55979 For me, Chris has always been the down on his luck all through life kinda guy and liked him for his honesty about how hard his life was growing up and that he was able to find something positive to change the cycle. I saw the drunken behaviour in the TUF house but I was never aware that it continued on since then until the UFC 89 preshow and when he talked about this was the first time he was sober that long except when he was in Basic Training and in jail. So I want him to win even more because he admits he has a problem with alcohol and he is in Hawaii with a good job as a trainer, his life is getting better. Then boom, he tests positive for steroids. What?? Boy did he pull one over on me. He stopped using one drug(alcohol) and replaced it with another one. Jeez. He must have an empty void somewhere in his psyche and uses to fill it. I know very little about steroids. But this happened to me last week. True story. I went to the dentist and was chatting with him and told him that I had started taking kickboxing. He then proceeds to tell me that he has a friend who is a MD and he buys low dose steroids from him. He said that they help him in his workout regime. He said that he is 49 years old but the steroids make his body behave/react as though it was only a 30 year old body. The aches and pains aren't as bad, and the effects of his workout show faster results. Well, I ask isn't that illegal? No, he says they are just under what the illegal limit would be and that it is actually good for you. He then offers to get me some if I wanted. I said no thanks. So one MD and a DDS both advocate the use of steroids. I personally thought that was scary. If two medical professionals advocate the use of steroids then it is no wonder that atheletes continue to use them and not just MMA fighters ie. the female Vietnamese gymnast from the Olympics this summer. For me, Chris has always been the down on his luck all through life kinda guy and liked him for his honesty about how hard his life was growing up and that he was able to find something positive to change the cycle. I saw the drunken behaviour in the TUF house but I was never aware that it continued on since then until the UFC 89 preshow and when he talked about this was the first time he was sober that long except when he was in Basic Training and in jail. So I want him to win even more because he admits he has a problem with alcohol and he is in Hawaii with a good job as a trainer, his life is getting better.

Then boom, he tests positive for steroids. What?? Boy did he pull one over on me. He stopped using one drug(alcohol) and replaced it with another one. Jeez. He must have an empty void somewhere in his psyche and uses to fill it.

I know very little about steroids. But this happened to me last week. True story. I went to the dentist and was chatting with him and told him that I had started taking kickboxing. He then proceeds to tell me that he has a friend who is a MD and he buys low dose steroids from him. He said that they help him in his workout regime. He said that he is 49 years old but the steroids make his body behave/react as though it was only a 30 year old body. The aches and pains aren’t as bad, and the effects of his workout show faster results. Well, I ask isn’t that illegal? No, he says they are just under what the illegal limit would be and that it is actually good for you. He then offers to get me some if I wanted. I said no thanks. So one MD and a DDS both advocate the use of steroids. I personally thought that was scary. If two medical professionals advocate the use of steroids then it is no wonder that atheletes continue to use them and not just MMA fighters ie. the female Vietnamese gymnast from the Olympics this summer.

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]]> By: DamonO http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/03/chris-leben-tests-positive-for-steroids-suspended-nine-months/comment-page-1/#comment-55974 DamonO Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:20:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8498#comment-55974 Shaun on November 4th, 2008 5:08 pm Is that you Dana White? Robert on November 4th, 2008 5:32 pm Wow, you really turned things around with the whole "legality" situation. DamonO on November 5th, 2008 3:12 am I knew he was juicing the moment I saw him step into the ring. No one gains that much muscle mass that quickly. Especially someone who has been working out regularly for years. His traps and his biceps were a dead giveaway! I pointed that out to everyone who was there watching the fights that night. They all said "Nah, he's just been working really hard." BS, he juiced and he got caught. He tried to use his hair as a distraction away from his juiced muscles. I say great job UFC! Shaun on November 4th, 2008 5:08 pm

Is that you Dana White?

Robert on November 4th, 2008 5:32 pm

Wow, you really turned things around with the whole “legality” situation.

DamonO on November 5th, 2008 3:12 am

I knew he was juicing the moment I saw him step into the ring. No one gains that much muscle mass that quickly. Especially someone who has been working out regularly for years. His traps and his biceps were a dead giveaway! I pointed that out to everyone who was there watching the fights that night. They all said “Nah, he’s just been working really hard.” BS, he juiced and he got caught. He tried to use his hair as a distraction away from his juiced muscles. I say great job UFC!

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]]> By: Robert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/03/chris-leben-tests-positive-for-steroids-suspended-nine-months/comment-page-1/#comment-55933 Robert Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:32:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8498#comment-55933 Do you people here what you're saying? It's better to take a steroid or human growth hormone than alcohol abuse.I agree,but guess which is illegal. That's right it's illegal to take a drug that increases muscle mass but it's legal to be a useless drunk! Do you people here what you’re saying? It’s better to take a steroid or human growth hormone than alcohol abuse.I agree,but guess which is illegal. That’s right it’s illegal to take a drug that increases muscle mass but it’s legal to be a useless drunk!

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]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/03/chris-leben-tests-positive-for-steroids-suspended-nine-months/comment-page-1/#comment-55932 darkmetal Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:31:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8498#comment-55932 Say it ain't so, Chris! The grim fact is that despite the addition of an illegal anabolic substance (steroid), Leben still couldn't win the fight with Bisping. I guess that steroids just don't make your arms longer, do they? (I credit the, what was it, 5 inch reach deficit in reach as part of Leben's inability to engage with Bisping) I continue to think Leben is a great fighter, but am sorely disappointed with this attempt to cheat. Kudos to the UFC for continuing to test for illegal substances. Maybe now they can tell Joe Rogan to quit claiming that Marijuana "Makes you better in BJJ" as it really doesn't help the whole issue, truthfully. Say it ain’t so, Chris!

The grim fact is that despite the addition of an illegal anabolic substance (steroid), Leben still couldn’t win the fight with Bisping. I guess that steroids just don’t make your arms longer, do they? (I credit the, what was it, 5 inch reach deficit in reach as part of Leben’s inability to engage with Bisping)

I continue to think Leben is a great fighter, but am sorely disappointed with this attempt to cheat.

Kudos to the UFC for continuing to test for illegal substances. Maybe now they can tell Joe Rogan to quit claiming that Marijuana “Makes you better in BJJ” as it really doesn’t help the whole issue, truthfully.

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]]> By: Shaun http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/03/chris-leben-tests-positive-for-steroids-suspended-nine-months/comment-page-1/#comment-55928 Shaun Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:08:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8498#comment-55928 What a disappointment. Everyone fucking knows they're getting tested sooner or later, especially considering that was a main event fight ,of course you're getting a fucking drug test. Hasn't anyone learned from stephan bonnar or sean sherk? What a disappointment. Everyone fucking knows they’re getting tested sooner or later, especially considering that was a main event fight ,of course you’re getting a fucking drug test. Hasn’t anyone learned from stephan bonnar or sean sherk?

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]]> By: mandy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/03/chris-leben-tests-positive-for-steroids-suspended-nine-months/comment-page-1/#comment-55925 mandy Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:22:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8498#comment-55925 I agree the use of steriods is not the same as a life time of alcohol abuse but it's still disappointing to see a guy like Leben think he has to resort to steriods for help in a professional fight. I like Leben and I hope he gets his shit together....he's fun to watch!! And I wouldn't compare him to Junie, that kid is a douche bag!!! I agree the use of steriods is not the same as a life time of alcohol abuse but it’s still disappointing to see a guy like Leben think he has to resort to steriods for help in a professional fight. I like Leben and I hope he gets his shit together….he’s fun to watch!! And I wouldn’t compare him to Junie, that kid is a douche bag!!!

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/03/chris-leben-tests-positive-for-steroids-suspended-nine-months/comment-page-1/#comment-55924 Mike Wolfe Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:05:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8498#comment-55924 I guess it's up to me to dissent. Sure, Leben screwed up by using steroids. But if he's stopped drinking, which was a huge problem for him, he's still made a lot of progress and his life really is "back on track." There's a big difference between struggling with an addiction and the use of steroids. If you're out there Chris, just take it one day at a time, buddy. I guess it’s up to me to dissent. Sure, Leben screwed up by using steroids. But if he’s stopped drinking, which was a huge problem for him, he’s still made a lot of progress and his life really is “back on track.” There’s a big difference between struggling with an addiction and the use of steroids. If you’re out there Chris, just take it one day at a time, buddy.

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]]> By: Glen McCoy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/03/chris-leben-tests-positive-for-steroids-suspended-nine-months/comment-page-1/#comment-55882 Glen McCoy Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:02:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8498#comment-55882 A leopard does not change his spots.Chris was a thug on the TUF show and is still a thug.I do not understand why UFC puts so much faith in these loosers.Chris can now bunk with Junie and both loosers can sit around and be drunks. A leopard does not change his spots.Chris was a thug on the TUF show and is still a thug.I do not understand why UFC puts so much faith in these loosers.Chris can now bunk with Junie and both loosers can sit around and be drunks.

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]]> By: Spencer http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/03/chris-leben-tests-positive-for-steroids-suspended-nine-months/comment-page-1/#comment-55868 Spencer Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:49:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8498#comment-55868 This whole situation sucks IMO. The UFC went put the promotional machine behind Leben for his fight against Bisping, showing the changes he had made and painting him as a man who grew up and was headed down the right path. Way to pay them back Chris! I honestly don't think the number of guys using would be as startling as some might think. You have to remember that most of these guys don't make a great deal of money fighting, so a six, nine or twelve month layoff is a huge hit in the wallet that many of these guys can't afford. This whole situation sucks IMO. The UFC went put the promotional machine behind Leben for his fight against Bisping, showing the changes he had made and painting him as a man who grew up and was headed down the right path. Way to pay them back Chris!

I honestly don’t think the number of guys using would be as startling as some might think. You have to remember that most of these guys don’t make a great deal of money fighting, so a six, nine or twelve month layoff is a huge hit in the wallet that many of these guys can’t afford.

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]]> By: Echolocating http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/03/chris-leben-tests-positive-for-steroids-suspended-nine-months/comment-page-1/#comment-55865 Echolocating Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:37:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8498#comment-55865 What an idiot. I was really looking forward to seeing Leben learn from this loss and move on... now I don't care if I ever see him fight again. I can't stand cheaters. The good news here is that the UFC actually cares about the integrity of the sport and it's fighters. This is a good sign of things to come from the UFC. What an idiot. I was really looking forward to seeing Leben learn from this loss and move on… now I don’t care if I ever see him fight again. I can’t stand cheaters.

The good news here is that the UFC actually cares about the integrity of the sport and it’s fighters. This is a good sign of things to come from the UFC.

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