Comments on: Brown won’t be the one to knock Faber off his throne http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/brown-wont-be-the-one-to-knock-faber-off-his-throne/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:04:07 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Patrick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/brown-wont-be-the-one-to-knock-faber-off-his-throne/comment-page-1/#comment-56354 Patrick Sun, 09 Nov 2008 03:38:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8551#comment-56354 Medium Seen... ever watched a Miguel Torres fight? Medium Seen… ever watched a Miguel Torres fight?

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]]> By: Medium Seen http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/brown-wont-be-the-one-to-knock-faber-off-his-throne/comment-page-1/#comment-56346 Medium Seen Sun, 09 Nov 2008 01:48:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8551#comment-56346 I don't know what to call in any weight class below 155, because the talent pool is so bunk. If Faber was truly the man he wouldn't have gone 5 rounds with Pulver who's hayday passed about 4 years ago. And yeah, he never lost at 145 before Faber, but who really cares? 145,135,110, I'm not convinced these are spectacular classes capable of entertaining fans with blow for blow bouts too often. More often it's washed up schmos who couldn't hack it at 155, and step down 10 pounds to try to man handle the talent already entrenched at 145, which never happens. And 69% is pretty good, especially when you have to call the entire card, which often has little known people on the under cards. I don’t know what to call in any weight class below 155, because the talent pool is so bunk. If Faber was truly the man he wouldn’t have gone 5 rounds with Pulver who’s hayday passed about 4 years ago. And yeah, he never lost at 145 before Faber, but who really cares? 145,135,110, I’m not convinced these are spectacular classes capable of entertaining fans with blow for blow bouts too often. More often it’s washed up schmos who couldn’t hack it at 155, and step down 10 pounds to try to man handle the talent already entrenched at 145, which never happens. And 69% is pretty good, especially when you have to call the entire card, which often has little known people on the under cards.

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]]> By: Blue http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/brown-wont-be-the-one-to-knock-faber-off-his-throne/comment-page-1/#comment-56233 Blue Fri, 07 Nov 2008 05:11:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8551#comment-56233 Sam, it isn't hard to pick winners. 69% correct means very little without a comparison with other predictors or your record including betting lines/odds. I feel safe in saying that you can get > 50% by knowing nothing and merely picking favourites to win in MMA. <em>Editor's Note: This is another example of a reckless post that isn't rooted in fact. This isn't the NFL or NBA -- what do betting lines have to do with head-to-head fighting? Not to mention, my picks are for entertainment purposes only, thus making odds and betting lines irrelevant. And if you had taken the time to actually go to CBSSports.com, you would see in fact that the picks are matched up with four other predictors. And we're not talking about 50% -- we're talking about 69%. That's a 19% difference -- thanks for trying to minimize that. Merely picking favorites? What does being a favorite get you in a sport such as MMA? Upsets happen routinely. How long have you followed the sport? Furthermore, when I submit predictions to CBS' head-to-head previews, I have to predict the ENTIRE card regardless of whether there is an obvious favorite or not. My claims were made in response to those questioning the quality of my picks and prior to the most recent UFC event, I was picking at 69%. That is a strong number and your weak logic expressed to discredit that documented figure just doesn't hold weight. Thanks for playing.</em> Sam, it isn’t hard to pick winners. 69% correct means very little without a comparison with other predictors or your record including betting lines/odds. I feel safe in saying that you can get > 50% by knowing nothing and merely picking favourites to win in MMA.

Editor’s Note: This is another example of a reckless post that isn’t rooted in fact. This isn’t the NFL or NBA — what do betting lines have to do with head-to-head fighting? Not to mention, my picks are for entertainment purposes only, thus making odds and betting lines irrelevant.

And if you had taken the time to actually go to CBSSports.com, you would see in fact that the picks are matched up with four other predictors. And we’re not talking about 50% — we’re talking about 69%. That’s a 19% difference — thanks for trying to minimize that.

Merely picking favorites? What does being a favorite get you in a sport such as MMA? Upsets happen routinely. How long have you followed the sport? Furthermore, when I submit predictions to CBS’ head-to-head previews, I have to predict the ENTIRE card regardless of whether there is an obvious favorite or not.

My claims were made in response to those questioning the quality of my picks and prior to the most recent UFC event, I was picking at 69%. That is a strong number and your weak logic expressed to discredit that documented figure just doesn’t hold weight. Thanks for playing.

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]]> By: Blue http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/brown-wont-be-the-one-to-knock-faber-off-his-throne/comment-page-1/#comment-56231 Blue Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:57:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8551#comment-56231 Reminds me of the time you picked the Iceman via domination. Reminds me of the time you picked the Iceman via domination.

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]]> By: Stan the Caddy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/brown-wont-be-the-one-to-knock-faber-off-his-throne/comment-page-1/#comment-56221 Stan the Caddy Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:28:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8551#comment-56221 I made my picks at DCSC.com, including a wager on Mike Brown. Does this allow me to throw out the obligatory lawls??? I made my picks at DCSC.com, including a wager on Mike Brown. Does this allow me to throw out the obligatory lawls???

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/brown-wont-be-the-one-to-knock-faber-off-his-throne/comment-page-1/#comment-56126 Sergio Hernandez Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:19:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8551#comment-56126 Sam, don't worry about them. These jagoffs don't realize it's called an UPSET for a reason. Smart money was on Faber, for sure, but Brown proved again that anything can happen in the cage. Sam, don’t worry about them.

These jagoffs don’t realize it’s called an UPSET for a reason. Smart money was on Faber, for sure, but Brown proved again that anything can happen in the cage.

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]]> By: Patrick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/brown-wont-be-the-one-to-knock-faber-off-his-throne/comment-page-1/#comment-56120 Patrick Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:55:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8551#comment-56120 Rawr. Also, I picked Pulver, Faber, Dias, and Maeda to win... so I think for the most part people probly bombed on this card on their picks (I was pretty secure in my belief that those 4 would win... got proven wrong, meh). It was a rough card for picks, but I'm sure some people made some money off Faber losing. Rawr. Also, I picked Pulver, Faber, Dias, and Maeda to win… so I think for the most part people probly bombed on this card on their picks (I was pretty secure in my belief that those 4 would win… got proven wrong, meh).

It was a rough card for picks, but I’m sure some people made some money off Faber losing.

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/brown-wont-be-the-one-to-knock-faber-off-his-throne/comment-page-1/#comment-56112 Sam Caplan Thu, 06 Nov 2008 11:28:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8551#comment-56112 to all of you questioning my Faber prediction AFTER the fact, realize that I'm not one to play it safe and if given the choice between offering predictions and not offering predictions, I am always going to keep things interesting by letting everyone know how I see it. If you can't respect that, maybe this site isn't for you. And to those who want to continue to question my credibility, kindly direct yourself to the most recent head-to-head predictions article on CBSSports.com where I am documented as picking 69% winners when it comes to major MMA events. I find it hypocritical that those bringing up credibility issues are the ones who only voice their opinions about predictions after the fight has transpired. Have some courage and speak out before the fight takes place. Anyone can be 100% correct after the fact. Championing non-documented predictions takes no guts. to all of you questioning my Faber prediction AFTER the fact, realize that I’m not one to play it safe and if given the choice between offering predictions and not offering predictions, I am always going to keep things interesting by letting everyone know how I see it. If you can’t respect that, maybe this site isn’t for you. And to those who want to continue to question my credibility, kindly direct yourself to the most recent head-to-head predictions article on CBSSports.com where I am documented as picking 69% winners when it comes to major MMA events. I find it hypocritical that those bringing up credibility issues are the ones who only voice their opinions about predictions after the fight has transpired. Have some courage and speak out before the fight takes place. Anyone can be 100% correct after the fact. Championing non-documented predictions takes no guts.

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]]> By: rollshop http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/brown-wont-be-the-one-to-knock-faber-off-his-throne/comment-page-1/#comment-56091 rollshop Thu, 06 Nov 2008 06:39:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8551#comment-56091 damn sam, you pick em and they get beaten almost every time. kind of like the madden cover curse. oh well. damn sam, you pick em and they get beaten almost every time. kind of like the madden cover curse. oh well.

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]]> By: Robert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/brown-wont-be-the-one-to-knock-faber-off-his-throne/comment-page-1/#comment-56070 Robert Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:27:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8551#comment-56070 Now all the people who thought Faber was better than Kid Yamamoto really look stupid he gets beat down by Brown and Pulver gets taken out in just over a minute the same Pulver who went 5 rounds with Faber a few months ago. Now all the people who thought Faber was better than Kid Yamamoto really look stupid he gets beat down by Brown and Pulver gets taken out in just over a minute the same Pulver who went 5 rounds with Faber a few months ago.

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