Comments on: WEC 36: Urijah Faber loses 145 lbs. title, Filho upset by Sonnen http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 18:11:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Jon J http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56400 Jon J Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:47:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56400 Here is my opinion of the Faber Brown fight. After watching the replay of the fight, I counted seven times that Brown hit Faber in the back of the head with absolutely no warning from the referee. In addition the majority of hits Brown was throwing while Faber was on the ground did not connect with his face or head, but with Urijah's hand that he was using to intelligently defend himself. So, what am I saying. The ref should have given Brown a warning on the back of the head punches, and Faber, who is the best p4p featherweight in the world should have been given more time to improve his position. Here is my opinion of the Faber Brown fight. After watching the replay of the fight, I counted seven times that Brown hit Faber in the back of the head with absolutely no warning from the referee. In addition the majority of hits Brown was throwing while Faber was on the ground did not connect with his face or head, but with Urijah’s hand that he was using to intelligently defend himself. So, what am I saying. The ref should have given Brown a warning on the back of the head punches, and Faber, who is the best p4p featherweight in the world should have been given more time to improve his position.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56240 Rich S. Fri, 07 Nov 2008 06:37:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56240 "Can we FINALLY stop talking about Urijah as one of the P4P best now? His weakness has finally been exposed: OVERCONFIDENCE!" lines like that annoy me to death.. Why is it that someone can be totally dominant in all their endeavors and then ONE LOSS gives people the right to say they've been "exposed" or they're done for or something.. I mean, come on.. seriously.. we're talking about Urijah Faber here.. do you mean to tell me that in all of his fights you saw weaknesses and they were just now exposed? 'Cause if that's what you're saying, you're crazy.. Urijah made ONE mistake, one VERY SMALL mistake in his last 14 straight fights, and his opponent called him on it.. so now all of a sudden he has a weakness? Good lord you guys amaze me sometimes.. Urijah's STILL the No.1/No.2 Featherweight in the world.. period.. “Can we FINALLY stop talking about Urijah as one of the P4P best now? His weakness has finally been exposed: OVERCONFIDENCE!”

lines like that annoy me to death..
Why is it that someone can be totally dominant in all their endeavors and then ONE LOSS gives people the right to say they’ve been “exposed” or they’re done for or something..

I mean, come on.. seriously.. we’re talking about Urijah Faber here.. do you mean to tell me that in all of his fights you saw weaknesses and they were just now exposed? ‘Cause if that’s what you’re saying, you’re crazy..

Urijah made ONE mistake, one VERY SMALL mistake in his last 14 straight fights, and his opponent called him on it..

so now all of a sudden he has a weakness?

Good lord you guys amaze me sometimes..

Urijah’s STILL the No.1/No.2 Featherweight in the world.. period..

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56206 Rich S. Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:03:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56206 I think we can all bet on Faber making a GSP-like recovery and coming back stronger [mentally and physically] than ever.. after this loss, he'll be invincible.. I wouldn't say he got to cocky in there.. he just got too excited.. Every single opponent is a legitimate threat, and you can't always try out those wacky moves.. I think we can all bet on Faber making a GSP-like recovery and coming back stronger [mentally and physically] than ever..

after this loss, he’ll be invincible..

I wouldn’t say he got to cocky in there..
he just got too excited..
Every single opponent is a legitimate threat, and you can’t always try out those wacky moves..

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]]> By: Tim http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56178 Tim Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:11:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56178 Faber is a well rounded fighter, he got too flashy too quick and got caught. He had no idea where Brown was when he threw that elbow, and he is a better fighter than that. As well, Brown seemed to be keeping him close and did a good job of being a smart fighter. This is the price you pay when you mix being an entertainer and a serious athlete at the same time. As for the shortcut on the fights, I wonder if it had anything to do with a conflict of advertising dollars between WEC and Ultimate fighter (which started at 9pm, central), WEC is the sister company of UFC. Maybe WEC isn't getting the viewership they had in the past? Anybody know more about this, or am I speaking out of my keester? Faber is a well rounded fighter, he got too flashy too quick and got caught. He had no idea where Brown was when he threw that elbow, and he is a better fighter than that. As well, Brown seemed to be keeping him close and did a good job of being a smart fighter. This is the price you pay when you mix being an entertainer and a serious athlete at the same time.

As for the shortcut on the fights, I wonder if it had anything to do with a conflict of advertising dollars between WEC and Ultimate fighter (which started at 9pm, central), WEC is the sister company of UFC. Maybe WEC isn’t getting the viewership they had in the past? Anybody know more about this, or am I speaking out of my keester?

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]]> By: brian http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56171 brian Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:10:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56171 Robert, Filho was 27 pounds over the morning of the weigh-ins. Demons or not, that's ridiculous. They must have known for weeks he was that heavy and he didn't even address it until last minute. Sure I wish him luck on getting his life together, but this is a business and he basically shat where he eats. Robert, Filho was 27 pounds over the morning of the weigh-ins. Demons or not, that’s ridiculous. They must have known for weeks he was that heavy and he didn’t even address it until last minute. Sure I wish him luck on getting his life together, but this is a business and he basically shat where he eats.

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56170 Mike Wolfe Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:05:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56170 Robert I didn't see your post right away because I was at the food court at the mall. As soon as I finish my Double Whopper and fries and have a short nap, I'm going to send you a reply that will cause your eyes to blister. Robert

I didn’t see your post right away because I was at the food court at the mall. As soon as I finish my Double Whopper and fries and have a short nap, I’m going to send you a reply that will cause your eyes to blister.

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]]> By: Robert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56164 Robert Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:50:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56164 There is a lot of talk regarding the Filho/Sonnen fight because he did'nt make weight so that gives people a green light to spew their bullshit. They all ignore the fact that Sonnen is a Liar and Paulo was 16 and O before the fight and has spent the past year fighting his own demons, but most people don't know what that's like because all they know is going to work, shopping, stuffing their faces with fast food and then going to bed. There is a lot of talk regarding the Filho/Sonnen fight because he did’nt make weight so that gives people a green light to spew their bullshit. They all ignore the fact that Sonnen is a Liar and Paulo was 16 and O before the fight and has spent the past year fighting his own demons, but most people don’t know what that’s like because all they know is going to work, shopping, stuffing their faces with fast food and then going to bed.

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56159 JOe K. Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:04:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56159 Why is there so much conversation regarding the Sonnen/Fillho fight? That was an uninspired bore-fest. It took up the most time of the televised portion of the card. I don't think Faber's problem is overconfidence. I think his innovative moves can be a bit reckless and he paid for it this time. But what about the Prelims? Is anyone outraged that there was only 5 fights? What if the Sonnen and the Faber fights each would have gone 5 rounds? There only would have been 2 fights and maybe that 20 second knockout! Gimme da Prelims. Why is there so much conversation regarding the Sonnen/Fillho fight? That was an uninspired bore-fest. It took up the most time of the televised portion of the card.

I don’t think Faber’s problem is overconfidence. I think his innovative moves can be a bit reckless and he paid for it this time.

But what about the Prelims? Is anyone outraged that there was only 5 fights? What if the Sonnen and the Faber fights each would have gone 5 rounds?

There only would have been 2 fights and maybe that 20 second knockout!

Gimme da Prelims.

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]]> By: Patrick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56158 Patrick Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:00:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56158 He's still one of the best pound for pound guys out there. Every single "pound for pound" best fighter has a weakness. Everyone has a weakness. Can people "finally" stop jumping to conclusions the moment someone loses once? He’s still one of the best pound for pound guys out there. Every single “pound for pound” best fighter has a weakness. Everyone has a weakness. Can people “finally” stop jumping to conclusions the moment someone loses once?

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]]> By: Venom http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56150 Venom Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:30:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56150 Can we FINALLY stop talking about Urijah as one of the P4P best now? His weakness has finally been exposed: OVERCONFIDENCE! Can we FINALLY stop talking about Urijah as one of the P4P best now? His weakness has finally been exposed: OVERCONFIDENCE!

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]]> By: Austin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56147 Austin Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:08:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56147 Also, Urijah is my favorite fighter but it looked like he had become disinterested in defending his title. That elbow was Anderson Silvaesque and i'm glad that he didn't want to just grind out a W like he could've, he wanted to make things interested. When brown knocked him down at one point, faber seemed to explode from one knee down. His athleticism is incredible, and i think the next fight will be garcia vs. faber, which faber will win, and then he will go on to own brown in their next fight. Also, Urijah is my favorite fighter but it looked like he had become disinterested in defending his title. That elbow was Anderson Silvaesque and i’m glad that he didn’t want to just grind out a W like he could’ve, he wanted to make things interested. When brown knocked him down at one point, faber seemed to explode from one knee down. His athleticism is incredible, and i think the next fight will be garcia vs. faber, which faber will win, and then he will go on to own brown in their next fight.

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]]> By: Austin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56146 Austin Thu, 06 Nov 2008 17:06:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56146 From the Filho fight at the end, did it look to anyone else that he was on drugs of some sort? he seemed despondent and looking at things that weren't there. I was disappointed that Chael won via decision, but he's looking forward in his career, not wanting the possibility of a sub coming at any time. Plus i think he was very conscious of the power in paulo's looping punches. He has one punch knockout power, tripping on acid or not. From the Filho fight at the end, did it look to anyone else that he was on drugs of some sort? he seemed despondent and looking at things that weren’t there. I was disappointed that Chael won via decision, but he’s looking forward in his career, not wanting the possibility of a sub coming at any time. Plus i think he was very conscious of the power in paulo’s looping punches. He has one punch knockout power, tripping on acid or not.

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]]> By: Spencer http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56137 Spencer Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:47:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56137 Filho not making weight and being horribly out of shape for what was to be a title defense (of a now dead title) was pretty bad. But it's clear that he isn't passed his personal issues and for everyone to be ripping him as overrated and just hype is ridiculous. When he is right, which he clearly isn't right now, he's a monster, plain and simple. Sonnen is a good fighter, but I don't see him being a contender in the UFC. If you're not willing to take a risk to finish a clearly overmatched opponent in this fight, how is he going to succeed against a better crop of fighters in the UFC? Does anyone actually think he could hang with a dude like Hendo right now? Faber will get his rematch and can say whatever he wants about making mistakes etc. Truth is, he got knocked out by a great shot from a guy no one was giving a chance to. It's not like Brown was some bum off the street; he trains with arguably the best team in the business (ATT) and has beaten quality opponents like Yves Edwards and Jeff Curran previous to this. Instead of knocking Faber, give Brown his due... I think he's earned it now. Filho not making weight and being horribly out of shape for what was to be a title defense (of a now dead title) was pretty bad. But it’s clear that he isn’t passed his personal issues and for everyone to be ripping him as overrated and just hype is ridiculous. When he is right, which he clearly isn’t right now, he’s a monster, plain and simple.

Sonnen is a good fighter, but I don’t see him being a contender in the UFC. If you’re not willing to take a risk to finish a clearly overmatched opponent in this fight, how is he going to succeed against a better crop of fighters in the UFC? Does anyone actually think he could hang with a dude like Hendo right now?

Faber will get his rematch and can say whatever he wants about making mistakes etc. Truth is, he got knocked out by a great shot from a guy no one was giving a chance to. It’s not like Brown was some bum off the street; he trains with arguably the best team in the business (ATT) and has beaten quality opponents like Yves Edwards and Jeff Curran previous to this.

Instead of knocking Faber, give Brown his due… I think he’s earned it now.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56132 mike wolfe Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:28:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56132 Sonnen stuck to a smart game plan. Why go to the ground with Filho? That's how Sonnen lost last time. If the fight sucked, it was because Filho mailed it in. I'll bet Sonnen gets a shot at the UFC, and Filho will, too, as long as he can show up to fight.. Sonnen stuck to a smart game plan. Why go to the ground with Filho? That’s how Sonnen lost last time. If the fight sucked, it was because Filho mailed it in. I’ll bet Sonnen gets a shot at the UFC, and Filho will, too, as long as he can show up to fight..

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]]> By: Sonny http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56130 Sonny Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:57:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56130 Five Oz, you're being too generous... Rosholt doesn't have SOME work to do on his standup, he needs work period. He got hit with a flurry and just ate it instead of responding. That chin ain't gonna carry you through the whole fight. Filho and Sonnen? Started off good but Sonnen didn't grind out crap, he did alright for the first two rounds and then the both of them danced with each other. That was no upset unless you count the crowd and myself, who were chanting 'Bullshit' But, I will say this, we got 4 KO fights and 1 boring one, as opposed to the UFC, which is usually 1 TKO and 4 boring decisions. Five Oz, you’re being too generous…

Rosholt doesn’t have SOME work to do on his standup, he needs work period. He got hit with a flurry and just ate it instead of responding. That chin ain’t gonna carry you through the whole fight.

Filho and Sonnen? Started off good but Sonnen didn’t grind out crap, he did alright for the first two rounds and then the both of them danced with each other. That was no upset unless you count the crowd and myself, who were chanting ‘Bullshit’

But, I will say this, we got 4 KO fights and 1 boring one, as opposed to the UFC, which is usually 1 TKO and 4 boring decisions.

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]]> By: Tim http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56129 Tim Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:48:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56129 I hope Filho gets a big stiff fine for what he pulled last night. Not making weight is unacceptable !! He was awful, I felt bad for Chael he is the REAL champ. Faber went down like someon clothes lined him... Good thing for Mike Brown that it ended when it did, he seemed to have a rib issue and was wincing as they put his championship belt on. Jens ate some bombs. Garcia is a tough dude... I hope Filho gets a big stiff fine for what he pulled last night. Not making weight is unacceptable !! He was awful, I felt bad for Chael he is the REAL champ.

Faber went down like someon clothes lined him… Good thing for Mike Brown that it ended when it did, he seemed to have a rib issue and was wincing as they put his championship belt on.

Jens ate some bombs. Garcia is a tough dude…

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]]> By: MMA SKOOL™ http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56127 MMA SKOOL™ Thu, 06 Nov 2008 14:25:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56127 So it seems Filho is more hype than people thought. So it seems Filho is more hype than people thought.

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]]> By: dave http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56108 dave Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:35:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56108 Sonnon winning was far from a upset, he beat him the 1st time... Filho has been overrated and never beat any real fighters... finally exposed. Anyone who said this fight was boring best blame Filho who was trying to fight like Machida but at a slower pace. Faber will kill Brown in his rematch(and will get one rest assure) This lose is best thing to ever happen to him, mark my words. Sonnon winning was far from a upset, he beat him the 1st time… Filho has been overrated and never beat any real fighters… finally exposed.

Anyone who said this fight was boring best blame Filho who was trying to fight like Machida but at a slower pace.

Faber will kill Brown in his rematch(and will get one rest assure)

This lose is best thing to ever happen to him, mark my words.

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]]> By: THORAZINE http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56105 THORAZINE Thu, 06 Nov 2008 09:16:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56105 Filho is over-rated always has been... Sure he may be bi-polar and have an assorment of problems, but maybe he shouldn't be fighting, he's not top-shelf UFC caliber anyway. I hope Filho gets help and returns if/when he gets better. Sonnen at least has class and should do faily well in the UFC. Faber is a great all-around fighter.. his chin is a bit on the weakside... kinda reminds me of Rich Franklin. Nothing Faber can do about it except keep trying to avoid getting hit...and overwhelm fighters with his skill. Filho is over-rated always has been… Sure he may be bi-polar and have an assorment of problems, but maybe he shouldn’t be fighting, he’s not top-shelf UFC caliber anyway. I hope Filho gets help and returns if/when he gets better. Sonnen at least has class and should do faily well in the UFC.

Faber is a great all-around fighter.. his chin is a bit on the weakside… kinda reminds me of Rich Franklin. Nothing Faber can do about it except keep trying to avoid getting hit…and overwhelm fighters with his skill.

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]]> By: MR ROZE http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/05/wec-36-urijah-faber-loses-145-lbs-title-filho-upset-by-sonnen/comment-page-1/#comment-56098 MR ROZE Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:26:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8572#comment-56098 I heard the prelimanary fight between Razor Rob and Cerrone was a war. Does anyone know when WEC will air that and the other prelims on VS? I heard the prelimanary fight between Razor Rob and Cerrone was a war. Does anyone know when WEC will air that and the other prelims on VS?

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