Comments on: WEC 36 Post-Game Report: Event fails to live up to high expectations http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/06/wec-36-post-game-report-event-fails-to-live-up-to-high-expectations/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 22 Nov 2009 08:43:08 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/06/wec-36-post-game-report-event-fails-to-live-up-to-high-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-56321 JOe K. Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:00:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8577#comment-56321 I also had the cable timing mismatch (central time). I thought they were playing WEC''s greatest knockouts but it ended up being the first hour of the event. What was more confusing is that when I turned on the event (at its "scheduled" time). The simpson fight had just begun and ended in a 20 second knockout thereby adding to my confusion thinking that WEC's greatest knockouts was still on. This timing issue is scary. Why are they only showing 4 fights (technically 5)? Why was that event only 2 televised hours? If Sonnen and Fabers fights would have been and gone 5 rounds we would have only seen 1.5 fights! This was my main issue with the UFC's last card. They wasted 30 minutes of the PPV doing a Silva Cote hype session then "once the event started" it was Rogan and Goldies turn to hype it up and the first fight didn't even start till 45 minutes in. I had a friend over who had never seen a UFC event before and he was bothered by the amount of time it took for the fights to start. If the UFC keeps doing this I'll stop buying their PPV's and just download them 30 minutes after the event is done. I will make god damned certain that they will never see another penny of mine. I'll even download the shit they put on SPIKE just to not watch the commercials. Who the fuck wants to pay two dollars on the internet to see fights that I paid to see for 50 dollars on my TV!?! "Yeah, hey guys now the events over and we still have pizza and beer so lets gather around my laptop and I'll pay 2 dollars so we can watch a low resolution fight on my 12.1" Lenovo tablet! While were at it guys how about one of you stick your dick up my ass so I can literally feel what the UFC is doing to me by making such a brash and self-serving proposition." With WEC it's harder to complain because it's free. But I still can complain because their revenue is contingent upon me (the viewer) watching. The fact that they didn't have enough time to show they main card should be a huge indicator of a lack of planned timing. Both of these cards I was totally pre-occupied with the fact that I was missing other fights. Anytime a fight would go to long (Filho I'm looking in your direction) I would think "this is cutting into the pre-lims" Its really aggravated me the last 2 cards. I can see this happening with the UFC because its turning (quite obviously) into sports-entertainment. Lesnar former WWE and Cotour actor/entrepreneur in the main event and Machida no title shot because his style and personality are not marketable. Now its spilling to the WEC. That's just sad. They were the sports card. Not a ton of fame just great cards and great production. I really hope a lot of people (in some positions of power) start complaining about this. In the mean time I am just going to compulsively e-mail MMA Live to see if I can get my complaint in the form of a question answered on air. signed, dis-enchanted MMA-fan 1416943 I also had the cable timing mismatch (central time). I thought they were playing WEC’’s greatest knockouts but it ended up being the first hour of the event.

What was more confusing is that when I turned on the event (at its “scheduled” time). The simpson fight had just begun and ended in a 20 second knockout thereby adding to my confusion thinking that WEC’s greatest knockouts was still on.

This timing issue is scary. Why are they only showing 4 fights (technically 5)? Why was that event only 2 televised hours?

If Sonnen and Fabers fights would have been and gone 5 rounds we would have only seen 1.5 fights!

This was my main issue with the UFC’s last card. They wasted 30 minutes of the PPV doing a Silva Cote hype session then “once the event started” it was Rogan and Goldies turn to hype it up and the first fight didn’t even start till 45 minutes in.

I had a friend over who had never seen a UFC event before and he was bothered by the amount of time it took for the fights to start.

If the UFC keeps doing this I’ll stop buying their PPV’s and just download them 30 minutes after the event is done. I will make god damned certain that they will never see another penny of mine. I’ll even download the shit they put on SPIKE just to not watch the commercials.

Who the fuck wants to pay two dollars on the internet to see fights that I paid to see for 50 dollars on my TV!?!

“Yeah, hey guys now the events over and we still have pizza and beer so lets gather around my laptop and I’ll pay 2 dollars so we can watch a low resolution fight on my 12.1″ Lenovo tablet!

While were at it guys how about one of you stick your dick up my ass so I can literally feel what the UFC is doing to me by making such a brash and self-serving proposition.”

With WEC it’s harder to complain because it’s free. But I still can complain because their revenue is contingent upon me (the viewer) watching.

The fact that they didn’t have enough time to show they main card should be a huge indicator of a lack of planned timing.

Both of these cards I was totally pre-occupied with the fact that I was missing other fights. Anytime a fight would go to long (Filho I’m looking in your direction) I would think “this is cutting into the pre-lims”

Its really aggravated me the last 2 cards. I can see this happening with the UFC because its turning (quite obviously) into sports-entertainment. Lesnar former WWE and Cotour actor/entrepreneur in the main event and Machida no title shot because his style and personality are not marketable.

Now its spilling to the WEC. That’s just sad. They were the sports card. Not a ton of fame just great cards and great production.

I really hope a lot of people (in some positions of power) start complaining about this.

In the mean time I am just going to compulsively e-mail MMA Live to see if I can get my complaint in the form of a question answered on air.

signed,
dis-enchanted MMA-fan 1416943

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]]> By: Justin Van Hook http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/06/wec-36-post-game-report-event-fails-to-live-up-to-high-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-56313 Justin Van Hook Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:41:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8577#comment-56313 Just a comment on the time aspect. I agree completely with the crazy timing of the show but the absolute worst thing is my cable provider listed on the guide that it started at 7:00 MTN, but apparently it was actually 6:00 MTN because I missed the first hour. Thankfully Versus replays their events an hour later so I got to see the first two fights, albeit after the main event. That is the last time I trust the cable guide. Just a comment on the time aspect. I agree completely with the crazy timing of the show but the absolute worst thing is my cable provider listed on the guide that it started at 7:00 MTN, but apparently it was actually 6:00 MTN because I missed the first hour. Thankfully Versus replays their events an hour later so I got to see the first two fights, albeit after the main event. That is the last time I trust the cable guide.

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]]> By: powz http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/06/wec-36-post-game-report-event-fails-to-live-up-to-high-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-56279 powz Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:19:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8577#comment-56279 wow i thought it was a great show.besides Fihlo that was a very good night of fights.better than ufc in chicago,i went,what a waist of 750.00 to watch a bunch of guys run away from each other .only 3 fights were any good,i dont know if it was chicago or uneducated fans but the first boo sent the tone for the rest of the night.it was like no body wanted to commit to a fight wow i thought it was a great show.besides Fihlo that was a very good night of fights.better than ufc in chicago,i went,what a waist of 750.00 to watch a bunch of guys run away from each other .only 3 fights were any good,i dont know if it was chicago or uneducated fans but the first boo sent the tone for the rest of the night.it was like no body wanted to commit to a fight

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]]> By: David Andrest http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/06/wec-36-post-game-report-event-fails-to-live-up-to-high-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-56226 David Andrest Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:08:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8577#comment-56226 Tell you what Goomba, hit me up through our contact page. I'd love to get your unhyped take on UFC 91 for an article I'm working on. Tell you what Goomba, hit me up through our contact page. I’d love to get your unhyped take on UFC 91 for an article I’m working on.

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]]> By: Goomba http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/06/wec-36-post-game-report-event-fails-to-live-up-to-high-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-56225 Goomba Fri, 07 Nov 2008 03:02:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8577#comment-56225 It seems from his article that he enjoyed the fights, with the exception of Filho-Sonnen of course. I agreed with most of his points, I just disagreed with how he portrayed the event. He mentions how the card had great potential (as it did), and it sounds like he (and many others) over-hyped it, making it seem like a bad event. I personally try (a lot of times unsuccessfully) to un-hype every fight, so it's as exciting as it can be. The past few events somebody from Five Ounces has been less than excited with the cards. My comment was more directed at the lack of enthusiasm for recent events than anything else, as I disagreed with them (thus I remembered them. It seems from his article that he enjoyed the fights, with the exception of Filho-Sonnen of course. I agreed with most of his points, I just disagreed with how he portrayed the event. He mentions how the card had great potential (as it did), and it sounds like he (and many others) over-hyped it, making it seem like a bad event. I personally try (a lot of times unsuccessfully) to un-hype every fight, so it’s as exciting as it can be.

The past few events somebody from Five Ounces has been less than excited with the cards. My comment was more directed at the lack of enthusiasm for recent events than anything else, as I disagreed with them (thus I remembered them.

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]]> By: David Andrest http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/06/wec-36-post-game-report-event-fails-to-live-up-to-high-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-56222 David Andrest Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:52:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8577#comment-56222 Goomba, with all due respect, we all ( yes you included) have our opinions of the last few shows. And I am certain Sam Caplan is flattered that you think so much of his opinion that it gets a response from you. Many people agree with his opinion, many do not. I happen to agree with his assesment of this event. Looked CRAZY good on paper but didn't turn out that way in reality. However the WEC is and remains the best produced and well run company in the sport. Goomba, with all due respect, we all ( yes you included) have our opinions of the last few shows. And I am certain Sam Caplan is flattered that you think so much of his opinion that it gets a response from you. Many people agree with his opinion, many do not. I happen to agree with his assesment of this event. Looked CRAZY good on paper but didn’t turn out that way in reality. However the WEC is and remains the best produced and well run company in the sport.

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]]> By: Goomba http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/06/wec-36-post-game-report-event-fails-to-live-up-to-high-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-56215 Goomba Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:10:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8577#comment-56215 David Andrest, I'm not saying they haven't shown positives lately, but it just seems they are in a really negative mood the past couple months. If my memory serves me right, I think they were very happy about the EXC card with the Carano, Shields, and Radach fights. And to Robert, I was at 90, so it was probably a different experience to me, but I found it very exciting. I have no idea how much of the undercard made it, but Aurelio-Franca and Horwich-Miller had a great fight. Yes, the Maynard-Clementi fight was boring, and Silva-Cote was pretty boring and left everyone with a bad taste, but I felt it was a pretty stacked card. Alves and Koscheck had a great fight. UFC 89 looked good originally, but with Silva-Machida falling off, it did lose a lot of starpower. Other than that, especially for a free card, I felt it was pretty good. As for the Zuffa fanboy comment, I love all MMA. I loved PRIDE, the IFL, I went to an Extreme Challenge show over watching UFC 89 on the first run-through, and watched all the EXC shows. And with the exception of the Kimbo fights, I thoroughly enjoyed them, especially their last event. I was really looking forward to their Nov. 8th event with Alvarez vs. Diaz. I haven't gotten to watch DREAM due to me not having HDNet, but I've watched some videos and hope the promotion continues to put on great fights. David Andrest,
I’m not saying they haven’t shown positives lately, but it just seems they are in a really negative mood the past couple months. If my memory serves me right, I think they were very happy about the EXC card with the Carano, Shields, and Radach fights.

And to Robert,
I was at 90, so it was probably a different experience to me, but I found it very exciting. I have no idea how much of the undercard made it, but Aurelio-Franca and Horwich-Miller had a great fight. Yes, the Maynard-Clementi fight was boring, and Silva-Cote was pretty boring and left everyone with a bad taste, but I felt it was a pretty stacked card. Alves and Koscheck had a great fight. UFC 89 looked good originally, but with Silva-Machida falling off, it did lose a lot of starpower. Other than that, especially for a free card, I felt it was pretty good.

As for the Zuffa fanboy comment, I love all MMA. I loved PRIDE, the IFL, I went to an Extreme Challenge show over watching UFC 89 on the first run-through, and watched all the EXC shows. And with the exception of the Kimbo fights, I thoroughly enjoyed them, especially their last event. I was really looking forward to their Nov. 8th event with Alvarez vs. Diaz. I haven’t gotten to watch DREAM due to me not having HDNet, but I’ve watched some videos and hope the promotion continues to put on great fights.

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]]> By: Sully http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/06/wec-36-post-game-report-event-fails-to-live-up-to-high-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-56200 Sully Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:18:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8577#comment-56200 Faber was hurt w/ the original shot that put him against the fence. He had been hurt a couple of time earlier in the fight too. I think that elbow was a desperation move as he was trying to get his legs back underneath him. He was on wobbly legs before that last shot hit him in the ear. Although short, both the Faber/Brown and Garcia/Pulver fights were fun to watch! Faber was hurt w/ the original shot that put him against the fence. He had been hurt a couple of time earlier in the fight too. I think that elbow was a desperation move as he was trying to get his legs back underneath him. He was on wobbly legs before that last shot hit him in the ear. Although short, both the Faber/Brown and Garcia/Pulver fights were fun to watch!

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]]> By: Robert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/06/wec-36-post-game-report-event-fails-to-live-up-to-high-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-56199 Robert Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:45:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8577#comment-56199 This was hardly a great card and UFC 89 did suck 90 was a letdown besides Sherk/Griffin, but 92 should be very strong indeed. There is no reason you can't be objectionable if a fight card is good it's good if it sucked it sucked no matter who's putting it on UFC, Strikeforce, Sengoku, PFC, or Adrenaline. People need to stop taking sides with a certain promotion, when you are not personally involved in it. You don't own part of the UFC or WEC, Dana White is not your friend get over it people you can like MMA, besides what Zuffa is selling you. This was hardly a great card and UFC 89 did suck 90 was a letdown besides Sherk/Griffin, but 92 should be very strong indeed. There is no reason you can’t be objectionable if a fight card is good it’s good if it sucked it sucked no matter who’s putting it on UFC, Strikeforce, Sengoku, PFC, or Adrenaline. People need to stop taking sides with a certain promotion, when you are not personally involved in it. You don’t own part of the UFC or WEC, Dana White is not your friend get over it people you can like MMA, besides what Zuffa is selling you.

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]]> By: David Andrest http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/06/wec-36-post-game-report-event-fails-to-live-up-to-high-expectations/comment-page-1/#comment-56198 David Andrest Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:42:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8577#comment-56198 Hey Goomba. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/04/wec-35-the-wec-delivers-yet-again/ Hey Goomba. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/08/04/wec-35-the-wec-delivers-yet-again/

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