Comments on: The Pick is In: And it’s Randy Couture

By: John

John — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:05:35 +0000

I am not sure I agree with your theory on the conditioning. While Randy is the older fighter Brock is the more heavily muscled. The more muscle mass the body carries the more oxygen that is needed to do the same work. That simple formula is why the smaller fighters can go for days while most heavyweights who look in to be in amazing condition gas out during their fights.

Randy has made a career out of preparing for 5 round fights. Brock has went the distance once. In that fight he was not pushed at all. He controlled the pace. If he is forced to stay on his feet, fight from his back, or fails at several take down attempts we will see what type of shape he is in.

That being said Randy does not have the ability to finish Brock from the bottom. If he gets taken down and can not get up we may see a 5 round snoozer.

But if I have to make a pick I am going with Randy and his experience.

By: Ryan Seacrest

Ryan Seacrest — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:08:46 +0000

I agree Mah Mah, no one thought that Mir would beat Brock (Ask King Mah who I said was going to win) but he made a mistake and lost. Octagon control would favor Randy and I am on the fence and I would say at first glance Brock but I hope Randy prevails. Damn this has to be the toughest fight to give an opinion on who is to win, but again Sam you have the un-canning ability to see both sides of the spectrum.

By: Jennifer

Jennifer — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:28:26 +0000

I’m going with Brock Lesnar all the way on this one. I couldn’t have put it better than BigTop did, actually.

By: king mah mah

king mah mah — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:07:40 +0000

Hard to go against Randy seeing what he did to gonzaga and Tim. My first instinct says Lesnar, but I’m picking Couture on this too.

By: BigTop

BigTop — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:21:01 +0000

Lesnar will steam roll him. With the retard strength and speed of Lesnar and I don’t think the 1.5 year layoff will help Randy either, look how Rampage looked against Forrest and that layoff was half as long.

By: darkmetal

darkmetal — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:52:24 +0000

Press Lesnar against the cage? If Couture can manage to muscle Lesnar at any point I will be very surprised. The usual Randy tricks may not work in this match, as Lesnar can quite literally pick just about anyone like a ragdoll and slam them.

I don’t think we can compare Couture’s wins over Gonzaga and Sylvia to this match. Sure, both guys are powerful heavyweights, but neither is in the league of Lesnar in wrestling, and neither has the physical tools of the “Vanilla Gorilla”.

Right now I think Sylvia would meet the same fate against Lesnar that he did against Fedor–utter destruction. Gonzaga vs Lesnar would be closer, because Gonzaga is actually a pretty powerful kicker and great at BJJ, but I think think he would probably lose.

Any way you cut it, I think that Lesnar will likely win this match. I just don’t see Brock as being a good match up for Couture, even if Randy is an MMA legend.

By: ultimatewhinger

ultimatewhinger — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:54:45 +0000

i hope randy wins good luck to him, i can see why Brock got a title shot but i dont respect the decision. but then again money talks. my Heart goes for Randy my brain is kinda leaning towards Brock, but i never count Randy out, and as for Fedor, he can go suck the manpole until he competes in the UFC, jus my opinion or whinge if u like!! LOVE ME!!

By: Jesse

Jesse — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:27:11 +0000

I never said he did well against Fedor. pretty is like ok.. and he did do better then a lot of guys, but Fedor is on another level i’d agree..

By: HexRei

HexRei — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:12:54 +0000

Herring didn’t do well against Fedor, have you watched that fight? he got wrecked the whole first 10-min round, almost finished multiple times, until the last minute or so when he reversed Fedor and landed some inconsequential knees to the body. then the fight was stopped because of the giant wound on his face inflicted in the first two minuted of the first round. and this was the inexperienced fedor of 2002 whose big wins consisted of arona, babalu, and semmy schilt.

I think if he hadn’t had thirty pounds and 2-3 inches on Fedor, not to mention facing an earlier version of Fedor… he wouldn’t even have lasted that first round.

By: Jesse

Jesse — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:03:50 +0000

and Herring has done pretty well against the best in the world including Fedor.

By: Jesse

Jesse — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:02:03 +0000

yeah.. i think he’s going to try to out wrestle couture ( he did have a better amateur career, and is younger ) and ground and pound Randy. .. I hope I’m wrong

By: HexRei

HexRei — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:57:26 +0000

Oh ya, Brock knocked down a BJJ fighter who has gotten outstruck by practically everyone he has fought (Mir) and a mediocre striker in Herring (who might have beat him had every round not included a takedown)- and he couldn’t finish either of them. I can’t believe you’re touting Brock’s “heavy hands”, he hits hard but not effectively. Unlike Brock, Randy has actually hung and won with talented strikers like Liddell and Sylvia. Brock is not going to win this standing.

By: Jesse

Jesse — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:52:19 +0000

I could not even bare to read the article..

Randy , is over rated , by a lot. Both times Lesnar has hit people at the start of a match they’ve gone flying. Lesnar’s jiu jitsu has improved since he fought mir and Couture ain’t no Mir in submissions.

Randy will not win a wrestliing match with lesnar and this isn’t wreslting anyway with Brock’s heavy hands.

I feel bad for Randy … Dana White is setting him up.
it was obvious from the start. what better way to gain credibility for Lesnar tthen for him to destroy a past his prime former ufc champion. Sure it’s great if Randy wins but we’ve seen that story line. something tells me Lesnar is hell of a lot more dangerous then Tim Sylvia who , gave Randy something of a match and lost to Fedor in 15 seconds, and Dana White knows this. He’s going to cut Randy loose to fight in Affliction , fight Fedor who he won’t pay unless he HAS to. cause it will screw w/ everyone else in the ufc who will want Fedor money, then what if Fedor looses? I actually think Lesnar may stand a better chance then most but they’re are conteders like Arlavski sp? Barnett, who should be ranked ahead but not Randy and not after Saturday night for sure.. you’ll see.. sorry Randy but you’re had a good ride my friend

By: mike wolfe

mike wolfe — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 06:41:55 +0000

Couture’s best defense and offense is his stand up, and he must stay moving and hit Lesnar with lotsa leg kicks. There’s no way Couture should resort to BJJ unless he’s on his back with no other option. And if Couture clinches with Lesnar, Lesnar will take him down. Lesnar’s size and strength advantages are too great.

By: Adonai18

Adonai18 — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:30:52 +0000

Couture via TKO, RD1

By: egad81

egad81 — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:27:22 +0000

I have Brock by smashing!

RIP RANDY… if you survive maybe Dana will let you fight Fedor

By: ticToc

ticToc — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:44:52 +0000

JoeK, I agree the card is weak. Too weak for me to take the PPV which I usually do. I think the main event is more hype machine than fight machine. Lesnar is moulded in WWE style as the heel. Didn’t he play it well when he pretended to bucking bronc Herring?

Sure, he’s big, he’s fast but we’ve seen many, many times before that a smaller much more experience man can take on a much larger guy. How many times did we used to see Gracie take out guys who had many more pounds on him than Lesnar on Couture.

I will catch the round by round stuff off a website and see it for free on one of the video websites as soon as it’s posted. A waste of money for a night of fights for my tastes.

White is a great promoter, in the WWE/WWF tradition. This fight isn’t about the best vs. the best. It’s about showbiz. Nothing wrong with that if that’s you’re thing. For me, NOT.

By: jeff the drunk

jeff the drunk — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:55:07 +0000

I really hope Randy wins, but Lesnar is like a baby gorilla. I have a bad feeling that he is going to overwhelm Coture and brutally pound him out. But if anyone can find a hole in his game and execute a plan to exploit it, it’s Randy Coture. Regardless of who wins, I don’t see this fight going past the 2nd.

By: tylerdante69

tylerdante69 — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:05:26 +0000

I’ve picked Sylvia and Gonzaga to defeat Randy but then Randy showed why he’s one of the best.

So 3rd times the charm, i’ll pick Brock for the win.

I believe the only guy that can stop Lesnar is Fedor.

But of course Randy has been defying odds all his life so this fight will either make Randy a True Legend or make Brock Truly The Next Big Thing

By: HexRei

HexRei — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:02:08 +0000

Tony Fennen on November 11th, 2008 3:13 pm
My guess is that Brock plans to test Randy’s chin early and often. Since Brock’s chin is hidden somewhere in his neck and shoulders I dont see him getting KOed.

Considering we have seen literally nothing of Brocks chin I have no idea where you’re getting that idea. We just don’t know how good it is (and please don’t bring up the Shooting Star Press) and he could get KO’ed like anyone else.

Also, I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that Brock CAN test Randy’s chin. Mir has awful standup so I really don’t put much weight on Brock flooring him. Knocking Herring down was more credible but Herring is not a great striker either, merely a good striker. Whereas Randy has some very strong boxing skills supplemented by what could be the best dirty boxing in the HW division.

I think on the feet will be Randy’s best chance to win and Brock would have to be very arrogant or very foolish to stand with Randy since Brock will almost certainly win if he can consistently take the fight to the ground.