Comments on: The Pick is In: And it’s Randy Couture http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/11/the-pick-is-in-and-its-randy-couture/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:04:09 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: John http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/11/the-pick-is-in-and-its-randy-couture/comment-page-1/#comment-56724 John Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:05:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8689#comment-56724 I am not sure I agree with your theory on the conditioning. While Randy is the older fighter Brock is the more heavily muscled. The more muscle mass the body carries the more oxygen that is needed to do the same work. That simple formula is why the smaller fighters can go for days while most heavyweights who look in to be in amazing condition gas out during their fights. Randy has made a career out of preparing for 5 round fights. Brock has went the distance once. In that fight he was not pushed at all. He controlled the pace. If he is forced to stay on his feet, fight from his back, or fails at several take down attempts we will see what type of shape he is in. That being said Randy does not have the ability to finish Brock from the bottom. If he gets taken down and can not get up we may see a 5 round snoozer. But if I have to make a pick I am going with Randy and his experience. I am not sure I agree with your theory on the conditioning. While Randy is the older fighter Brock is the more heavily muscled. The more muscle mass the body carries the more oxygen that is needed to do the same work. That simple formula is why the smaller fighters can go for days while most heavyweights who look in to be in amazing condition gas out during their fights.

Randy has made a career out of preparing for 5 round fights. Brock has went the distance once. In that fight he was not pushed at all. He controlled the pace. If he is forced to stay on his feet, fight from his back, or fails at several take down attempts we will see what type of shape he is in.

That being said Randy does not have the ability to finish Brock from the bottom. If he gets taken down and can not get up we may see a 5 round snoozer.

But if I have to make a pick I am going with Randy and his experience.

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]]> By: Ryan Seacrest http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/11/the-pick-is-in-and-its-randy-couture/comment-page-1/#comment-56709 Ryan Seacrest Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:08:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8689#comment-56709 I agree Mah Mah, no one thought that Mir would beat Brock (Ask King Mah who I said was going to win) but he made a mistake and lost. Octagon control would favor Randy and I am on the fence and I would say at first glance Brock but I hope Randy prevails. Damn this has to be the toughest fight to give an opinion on who is to win, but again Sam you have the un-canning ability to see both sides of the spectrum. I agree Mah Mah, no one thought that Mir would beat Brock (Ask King Mah who I said was going to win) but he made a mistake and lost. Octagon control would favor Randy and I am on the fence and I would say at first glance Brock but I hope Randy prevails. Damn this has to be the toughest fight to give an opinion on who is to win, but again Sam you have the un-canning ability to see both sides of the spectrum.

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]]> By: Jennifer http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/11/the-pick-is-in-and-its-randy-couture/comment-page-1/#comment-56705 Jennifer Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:28:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8689#comment-56705 I'm going with Brock Lesnar all the way on this one. I couldn't have put it better than BigTop did, actually. I’m going with Brock Lesnar all the way on this one. I couldn’t have put it better than BigTop did, actually.

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]]> By: king mah mah http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/11/the-pick-is-in-and-its-randy-couture/comment-page-1/#comment-56654 king mah mah Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:07:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8689#comment-56654 Hard to go against Randy seeing what he did to gonzaga and Tim. My first instinct says Lesnar, but I'm picking Couture on this too. Hard to go against Randy seeing what he did to gonzaga and Tim. My first instinct says Lesnar, but I’m picking Couture on this too.

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]]> By: BigTop http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/11/the-pick-is-in-and-its-randy-couture/comment-page-1/#comment-56650 BigTop Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:21:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8689#comment-56650 Lesnar will steam roll him. With the retard strength and speed of Lesnar and I don't think the 1.5 year layoff will help Randy either, look how Rampage looked against Forrest and that layoff was half as long. Lesnar will steam roll him. With the retard strength and speed of Lesnar and I don’t think the 1.5 year layoff will help Randy either, look how Rampage looked against Forrest and that layoff was half as long.

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]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/11/the-pick-is-in-and-its-randy-couture/comment-page-1/#comment-56640 darkmetal Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:52:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8689#comment-56640 Press Lesnar against the cage? If Couture can manage to muscle Lesnar at any point I will be very surprised. The usual Randy tricks may not work in this match, as Lesnar can quite literally pick just about anyone like a ragdoll and slam them. I don't think we can compare Couture's wins over Gonzaga and Sylvia to this match. Sure, both guys are powerful heavyweights, but neither is in the league of Lesnar in wrestling, and neither has the physical tools of the "Vanilla Gorilla". Right now I think Sylvia would meet the same fate against Lesnar that he did against Fedor--utter destruction. Gonzaga vs Lesnar would be closer, because Gonzaga is actually a pretty powerful kicker and great at BJJ, but I think think he would probably lose. Any way you cut it, I think that Lesnar will likely win this match. I just don't see Brock as being a good match up for Couture, even if Randy is an MMA legend. Press Lesnar against the cage? If Couture can manage to muscle Lesnar at any point I will be very surprised. The usual Randy tricks may not work in this match, as Lesnar can quite literally pick just about anyone like a ragdoll and slam them.

I don’t think we can compare Couture’s wins over Gonzaga and Sylvia to this match. Sure, both guys are powerful heavyweights, but neither is in the league of Lesnar in wrestling, and neither has the physical tools of the “Vanilla Gorilla”.

Right now I think Sylvia would meet the same fate against Lesnar that he did against Fedor–utter destruction. Gonzaga vs Lesnar would be closer, because Gonzaga is actually a pretty powerful kicker and great at BJJ, but I think think he would probably lose.

Any way you cut it, I think that Lesnar will likely win this match. I just don’t see Brock as being a good match up for Couture, even if Randy is an MMA legend.

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]]> By: ultimatewhinger http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/11/the-pick-is-in-and-its-randy-couture/comment-page-1/#comment-56636 ultimatewhinger Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:54:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8689#comment-56636 i hope randy wins good luck to him, i can see why Brock got a title shot but i dont respect the decision. but then again money talks. my Heart goes for Randy my brain is kinda leaning towards Brock, but i never count Randy out, and as for Fedor, he can go suck the manpole until he competes in the UFC, jus my opinion or whinge if u like!! LOVE ME!! i hope randy wins good luck to him, i can see why Brock got a title shot but i dont respect the decision. but then again money talks. my Heart goes for Randy my brain is kinda leaning towards Brock, but i never count Randy out, and as for Fedor, he can go suck the manpole until he competes in the UFC, jus my opinion or whinge if u like!! LOVE ME!!

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]]> By: Jesse http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/11/the-pick-is-in-and-its-randy-couture/comment-page-1/#comment-56633 Jesse Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:27:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8689#comment-56633 I never said he did well against Fedor. pretty is like ok.. and he did do better then a lot of guys, but Fedor is on another level i'd agree.. I never said he did well against Fedor. pretty is like ok.. and he did do better then a lot of guys, but Fedor is on another level i’d agree..

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/11/the-pick-is-in-and-its-randy-couture/comment-page-1/#comment-56631 HexRei Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:12:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8689#comment-56631 Herring didn't do well against Fedor, have you watched that fight? he got wrecked the whole first 10-min round, almost finished multiple times, until the last minute or so when he reversed Fedor and landed some inconsequential knees to the body. then the fight was stopped because of the giant wound on his face inflicted in the first two minuted of the first round. and this was the inexperienced fedor of 2002 whose big wins consisted of arona, babalu, and semmy schilt. I think if he hadn't had thirty pounds and 2-3 inches on Fedor, not to mention facing an earlier version of Fedor... he wouldn't even have lasted that first round. Herring didn’t do well against Fedor, have you watched that fight? he got wrecked the whole first 10-min round, almost finished multiple times, until the last minute or so when he reversed Fedor and landed some inconsequential knees to the body. then the fight was stopped because of the giant wound on his face inflicted in the first two minuted of the first round. and this was the inexperienced fedor of 2002 whose big wins consisted of arona, babalu, and semmy schilt.

I think if he hadn’t had thirty pounds and 2-3 inches on Fedor, not to mention facing an earlier version of Fedor… he wouldn’t even have lasted that first round.

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]]> By: Jesse http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/11/the-pick-is-in-and-its-randy-couture/comment-page-1/#comment-56630 Jesse Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:03:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8689#comment-56630 and Herring has done pretty well against the best in the world including Fedor. and Herring has done pretty well against the best in the world including Fedor.

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