Comments on: Phillipe Nover TUF 8 Blog: Dave Kaplan’s rampage; the legend of Al Stankie; Nogueira vs. Mir $18,000 soccer match; and more http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 18:11:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: bloodspud http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56966 bloodspud Sat, 15 Nov 2008 12:35:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56966 I think TUF is going for a Face/ Heel (good/bad) for the fight between Mir and Nog. I think TUF is going for a Face/ Heel (good/bad) for the fight between Mir and Nog.

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]]> By: THORAZINE http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56950 THORAZINE Sat, 15 Nov 2008 04:08:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56950 1ST lets cap on Kaplan... he ate splooshi knowing it was a risk, took mutliple shots to that dome of his on purpose?..(how could Phillipe miss?). Got KO'd and didn't admit it. This guy is in total denial, and lacks common sense, he's got the body of a 135lbr and head of a heavyweight, no way is this guy gonna' last in the UFC to easy a target. 2ND Frank Mir... I've always thought this guy was arrogant but after reading Kyle's interview you can add Self Centered to Mir's personality. Mir was there only 1/2 the time to coach. Winning, the $1,000 for each team member wasn't even a factor for Mir. To Top all that, Mir choose Kaplan to be his 155lb protege??...LMAO! Lets face it Mir is not that good a commentator, just right place right time when they were looking for a fighter/commentator, the guys now are much more articulate than Mir is, even Stephen Bonner and he's done very little commentating. I really like all the guys on Nogs team, he knows how to pick 'em and how to coach, I know Nog is gonna beat the living hell out of Mir. Keep up the good work Phillipe ur a credit to MMA young man! 1ST lets cap on Kaplan… he ate splooshi knowing it was a risk, took mutliple shots to that dome of his on purpose?..(how could Phillipe miss?). Got KO’d and didn’t admit it. This guy is in total denial, and lacks common sense, he’s got the body of a 135lbr and head of a heavyweight, no way is this guy gonna’ last in the UFC to easy a target.

2ND Frank Mir… I’ve always thought this guy was arrogant but after reading Kyle’s interview you can add Self Centered to Mir’s personality. Mir was there only 1/2 the time to coach. Winning, the $1,000 for each team member wasn’t even a factor for Mir. To Top all that, Mir choose Kaplan to be his 155lb protege??…LMAO! Lets face it Mir is not that good a commentator, just right place right time when they were looking for a fighter/commentator, the guys now are much more articulate than Mir is, even Stephen Bonner and he’s done very little commentating.

I really like all the guys on Nogs team, he knows how to pick ‘em and how to coach, I know Nog is gonna beat the living hell out of Mir. Keep up the good work Phillipe ur a credit to MMA young man!

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]]> By: THORAZINE http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56947 THORAZINE Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:46:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56947 “ i love the way people make their minds up on the character of Mir based on a heavily edited tv shows…i haven’t seen this sort of knee jerk reaction outside of the Simpsons, South Park or congress in my life. Online mma fans need to clean the sand out of their collective vaginas.” ROMANO... IS THAT U FRANK? “ i love the way people make their minds up on the character of Mir based on a heavily edited tv shows…i haven’t seen this sort of knee jerk reaction outside of the Simpsons, South Park or congress in my life. Online mma fans need to clean the sand out of their collective vaginas.”

ROMANO… IS THAT U FRANK?

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]]> By: Dball http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56884 Dball Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:41:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56884 I dont see where everyone is saying Kaplan was knocked out. Like seriously get a clue. This reminds of when Quarry got "knocked out" by Franklin...pshhh...sure at first glance it looked like Quarry was going through convulsions (or possibly even the early stages of rigor mortis)...but if u watch and look closely, hes still obviously throwing a defensive up kick...worst stoppage ever. (dont even get me started on Gonzaga-CroCop) Seriously Dave Kaplan...please stop. If i was there i would have gotten out the smelling salts, electro-shocks, and an old priest and a young priest. I dont see where everyone is saying Kaplan was knocked out. Like seriously get a clue. This reminds of when Quarry got “knocked out” by Franklin…pshhh…sure at first glance it looked like Quarry was going through convulsions (or possibly even the early stages of rigor mortis)…but if u watch and look closely, hes still obviously throwing a defensive up kick…worst stoppage ever. (dont even get me started on Gonzaga-CroCop)

Seriously Dave Kaplan…please stop. If i was there i would have gotten out the smelling salts, electro-shocks, and an old priest and a young priest.

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]]> By: warmingo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56881 warmingo Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:43:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56881 kaplin is a douche. I am hoping he dosent get to fight at fight night. I also hope klingspisberry dosent either War Junie kaplin is a douche. I am hoping he dosent get to fight at fight night. I also hope klingspisberry dosent either

War Junie

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]]> By: Eric http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56843 Eric Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:10:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56843 romano- Mir called Nog's team members "losers". That wasn't taken out of context. That was a direct quote. He has been in favor of the stupid antics on the show all season and that makes him look like a dick. They could edit the show however they would like, but if he acts like an ass and I don't agree with it, it doesn't mean I'm not smart enough to see through the shit. It means Mir is making himself out to be a cocky, immature child and I'm not a fan of that. romano-

Mir called Nog’s team members “losers”. That wasn’t taken out of context. That was a direct quote. He has been in favor of the stupid antics on the show all season and that makes him look like a dick. They could edit the show however they would like, but if he acts like an ass and I don’t agree with it, it doesn’t mean I’m not smart enough to see through the shit. It means Mir is making himself out to be a cocky, immature child and I’m not a fan of that.

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]]> By: Adonai18 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56841 Adonai18 Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:42:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56841 Mir definitely seems like a cocky asshole. When wathcing the show I always think "damn if I was in that house I would definitely want to be on Nog's team." Nog just seems like an all-around good guy who respects his fighters and wants the best for them. Class-act all the way. As for Mir being a better athlete I just don't see the relevance, they are fighters and thats all that really matters. Mir might shoot a basketball better, but when that cage door closes I will take Nog everytime. Admittedly, Nog might not be the greatest athlete in the world, but he possesses qualities that enhance his ability immensely. He has more heart than Mir and his whole team combined, and he always puts every ounce of energy that man has into his fights, or a soccer shootout, or training his fighter. He has quickly became one of my favroite fighters and he is hands down the best TUF coach in history Mir definitely seems like a cocky asshole. When wathcing the show I always think “damn if I was in that house I would definitely want to be on Nog’s team.” Nog just seems like an all-around good guy who respects his fighters and wants the best for them. Class-act all the way. As for Mir being a better athlete I just don’t see the relevance, they are fighters and thats all that really matters. Mir might shoot a basketball better, but when that cage door closes I will take Nog everytime. Admittedly, Nog might not be the greatest athlete in the world, but he possesses qualities that enhance his ability immensely. He has more heart than Mir and his whole team combined, and he always puts every ounce of energy that man has into his fights, or a soccer shootout, or training his fighter. He has quickly became one of my favroite fighters and he is hands down the best TUF coach in history

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]]> By: Grappo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56840 Grappo Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:08:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56840 "i love the way people make their minds up on the character of Mir based on a heavily edited tv shows…i haven’t seen this sort of knee jerk reaction outside of the Simpsons, South Park or congress in my life. Online mma fans need to clean the sand out of their collective vaginas." - I haven't made my mind up about Mir, but I did say his remarks and attitude have been disappointing. No doubt the show is heavily edited and skews things a certain way, but the fact is he did say the things he said, and the criticism is valid. It's no different than people being turned off to Junie or anyone else because of their behavior on the show. “i love the way people make their minds up on the character of Mir based on a heavily edited tv shows…i haven’t seen this sort of knee jerk reaction outside of the Simpsons, South Park or congress in my life. Online mma fans need to clean the sand out of their collective vaginas.”

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I haven’t made my mind up about Mir, but I did say his remarks and attitude have been disappointing. No doubt the show is heavily edited and skews things a certain way, but the fact is he did say the things he said, and the criticism is valid.

It’s no different than people being turned off to Junie or anyone else because of their behavior on the show.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56835 Rich S. Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:30:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56835 man, i'm a fan of Mir, have been for a long time. But he was being a real dick on the show last night. All that crap about him being a far better athlete than Nog, and totally dissing Nog's athleticism was really starting to piss me off.. The reason i LIKE Mir is because he's one of the more respectful fighters out there. But that was a total show of disrespect. PS - Kaplan's pretty stupid for trying to play off getting knocked cold for the better half of a minute [well, as far as we know] man,
i’m a fan of Mir, have been for a long time.
But he was being a real dick on the show last night.
All that crap about him being a far better athlete than Nog, and totally dissing Nog’s athleticism was really starting to piss me off..

The reason i LIKE Mir is because he’s one of the more respectful fighters out there.
But that was a total show of disrespect.

PS – Kaplan’s pretty stupid for trying to play off getting knocked cold for the better half of a minute [well, as far as we know]

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]]> By: romano http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56828 romano Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:29:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56828 i love the way people make their minds up on the character of Mir based on a heavily edited tv shows...i haven't seen this sort of knee jerk reaction outside of the Simpsons, South Park or congress in my life. Online mma fans need to clean the sand out of their collective vaginas. i love the way people make their minds up on the character of Mir based on a heavily edited tv shows…i haven’t seen this sort of knee jerk reaction outside of the Simpsons, South Park or congress in my life. Online mma fans need to clean the sand out of their collective vaginas.

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]]> By: MMAfan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56827 MMAfan Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:28:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56827 I busted out laughing when Kaplan told Tom to punch him....you could almost here the benny hill music in the background. OF COURSE he was going to get knowcked out.....glorious. I busted out laughing when Kaplan told Tom to punch him….you could almost here the benny hill music in the background. OF COURSE he was going to get knowcked out…..glorious.

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]]> By: Dball http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56826 Dball Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:58:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56826 Hey if anyone is curious, the show didnt show probably the must fowl, F*cked up thing anyone has done in the house. (its beyond the beat session on the sushi) Ryan Bader blogs on yahoo under MMA and its on there. Also, i agree with patrick above. Def should not have nover and Penn in the same rational thought. Although he did look impressive this week, he almost did not make it on the show because of a battle with Duarte. Too early to make that prediction after 2 fights one of which he couldve lost. Hey if anyone is curious, the show didnt show probably the must fowl, F*cked up thing anyone has done in the house. (its beyond the beat session on the sushi) Ryan Bader blogs on yahoo under MMA and its on there.

Also, i agree with patrick above. Def should not have nover and Penn in the same rational thought. Although he did look impressive this week, he almost did not make it on the show because of a battle with Duarte. Too early to make that prediction after 2 fights one of which he couldve lost.

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]]> By: AG Silver http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56810 AG Silver Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:35:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56810 I completely agree with you, ihateemo! It's funny how opinions of people can change based on how they present themselves. On WEC, I think there's no one better except for maybe Rogan (and that's more from experience than know-how). But on TUF, it looks like they're making Mir out to be the villain in this match-up. Esp. since Big Nog seems so darned likable. I completely agree with you, ihateemo!

It’s funny how opinions of people can change based on how they present themselves. On WEC, I think there’s no one better except for maybe Rogan (and that’s more from experience than know-how). But on TUF, it looks like they’re making Mir out to be the villain in this match-up. Esp. since Big Nog seems so darned likable.

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]]> By: ihateemo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56806 ihateemo Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:59:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56806 I hate to say it, but this show has put me off Mir as well. That whole "I'm the superior athlete" nonsense notwithstanding, he should have reined in Junie from the get go. It sucks and it's upsetting, because I think he comes across as a smart and likable guy when he's colour commentating on WEC fights. TUF has made him out to be an arrogant meathead. Bleh. I hate to say it, but this show has put me off Mir as well. That whole “I’m the superior athlete” nonsense notwithstanding, he should have reined in Junie from the get go.

It sucks and it’s upsetting, because I think he comes across as a smart and likable guy when he’s colour commentating on WEC fights. TUF has made him out to be an arrogant meathead.

Bleh.

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]]> By: seaking1810 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56793 seaking1810 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:59:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56793 Frank Mir has to be the worst coach / biggest douchebag ever. He reminds me of Shamrock, his best days are behind him. He may have been a big deal several years ago but his star power has faded. He comes off as a typical high school football meat head. I'm surprised we haven't seen him shove someone into a locker or give them a wedgie. What a classless A$$hole. You can see what his character is when he didn't even try to win the coaches challenge. Nog went out and did his best to win for his team, he knew they could use the money. Nog has made a fan out of me. I don't think Mir is anywhere near the same level in BJJ that Nog is, I hope he gets his ass kicked and sent packing once and for all. Frank Mir has to be the worst coach / biggest douchebag ever. He reminds me of Shamrock, his best days are behind him. He may have been a big deal several years ago but his star power has faded. He comes off as a typical high school football meat head. I’m surprised we haven’t seen him shove someone into a locker or give them a wedgie. What a classless A$$hole. You can see what his character is when he didn’t even try to win the coaches challenge. Nog went out and did his best to win for his team, he knew they could use the money. Nog has made a fan out of me. I don’t think Mir is anywhere near the same level in BJJ that Nog is, I hope he gets his ass kicked and sent packing once and for all.

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]]> By: modogg http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56783 modogg Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:38:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56783 man, Kaplan truly is delusional so don't let it bother you Phillipe. You have to love how people's defense mechanisms come in and they have to create defense mechanisms to protect their ego. If his strategy was to let you punch him in the face, which is possibly the worst game plan ever heard of, he would have been more likely to have his hands down like Junie did and dare you to punch him. It was obvious your speed was too much for him and his stand up defense was non-existent. I mean you were peppering him right between his arms, and you could see him stunned a bit and not be able to block any of your punches. man, Kaplan truly is delusional so don’t let it bother you Phillipe. You have to love how people’s defense mechanisms come in and they have to create defense mechanisms to protect their ego. If his strategy was to let you punch him in the face, which is possibly the worst game plan ever heard of, he would have been more likely to have his hands down like Junie did and dare you to punch him. It was obvious your speed was too much for him and his stand up defense was non-existent. I mean you were peppering him right between his arms, and you could see him stunned a bit and not be able to block any of your punches.

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]]> By: Patrick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56777 Patrick Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:33:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56777 Brian... uh... maybe bringing up B.J. Penn and Nover in the same sentence is a little premature. Not meaning any disrespect towards Philipe here, but we haven't seen enough of his fights to accurately judge how he'll do against UFC level competition, much less against the best lightweight fighter in the world. Brian… uh… maybe bringing up B.J. Penn and Nover in the same sentence is a little premature.

Not meaning any disrespect towards Philipe here, but we haven’t seen enough of his fights to accurately judge how he’ll do against UFC level competition, much less against the best lightweight fighter in the world.

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]]> By: DIAZ http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56774 DIAZ Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:24:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56774 Yea Mir really looks like an A-hole, I thought differnt of him, I guess seeing him as a commentator on the WEC is what made me think he was some what a respectful competitor. I imagine he lost alot of fans for the way he put himself out there. He is a really big sore looser always some excuse on why he lost, its never his fault.. Also whats up with Kaplans head, he looks as if he should be part of the Thanks giving parade here in NYC, Dude looks like his head was filled with helium. Nover you still working up in CI hosp? or you a fulltime fighter now? Yea Mir really looks like an A-hole, I thought differnt of him, I guess seeing him as a commentator on the WEC is what made me think he was some what a respectful competitor. I imagine he lost alot of fans for the way he put himself out there. He is a really big sore looser always some excuse on why he lost, its never his fault..
Also whats up with Kaplans head, he looks as if he should be part of the Thanks giving parade here in NYC, Dude looks like his head was filled with helium.
Nover you still working up in CI hosp? or you a fulltime fighter now?

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]]> By: Sam Bronx, NY http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56772 Sam Bronx, NY Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:09:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56772 All of you guys are preaching to the choir! Mir & Toolie Browning are cut from the same cloth. I thought Mir was a cool guy, but he and almost his whole team are a bunch douche bags...its unbelievable! I was hoping Kryz would not be able to fight, would be sent home, I am not watching TUF to see these guys freeze each others underwear. I think the serial hugger is going to win the last fight to bring Big Nog's Team. All of you guys are preaching to the choir! Mir & Toolie Browning are cut from the same cloth. I thought Mir was a cool guy, but he and almost his whole team are a bunch douche bags…its unbelievable!

I was hoping Kryz would not be able to fight, would be sent home, I am not watching TUF to see these guys freeze each others underwear.

I think the serial hugger is going to win the last fight to bring Big Nog’s Team.

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]]> By: Brian G http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/12/phillipe-nover-tuf-8-blog-dave-kaplans-rampage-the-legend-of-al-stankie-nogueira-vs-mir-soccer-18000-soccer-match-and-more/comment-page-1/#comment-56771 Brian G Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:06:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8761#comment-56771 Phillipe is such a good ambassador for the sport. I really hope he dismantles BJ Penn when he gets his title shot. From what I've seen so far, it's not a question of if, but when. Phillipe is such a good ambassador for the sport. I really hope he dismantles BJ Penn when he gets his title shot. From what I’ve seen so far, it’s not a question of if, but when.

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