Comments on: 5 Oz. of Pain on CBSSports.com: The biggest fights in UFC history http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/15/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-the-biggest-fights-in-ufc-history/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:48:23 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Grappo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/15/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-the-biggest-fights-in-ufc-history/comment-page-1/#comment-57126 Grappo Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:35:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8895#comment-57126 Ah sorry Sam, I skipped over the intro and went right to the picks. Anyway, good article. It brought on waves of drunken nostalgia. Ah sorry Sam, I skipped over the intro and went right to the picks.

Anyway, good article. It brought on waves of drunken nostalgia.

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]]> By: Sam Caplan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/15/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-the-biggest-fights-in-ufc-history/comment-page-1/#comment-57124 Sam Caplan Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:30:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8895#comment-57124 Grappo, thank you. You're exactly right. Bonnar vs. Griffin was a pivotal fight for the UFC but the article clearly clarifies in the intro that the listing wasn't about the best fights or the most pivotal/important. Also, Liddell vs. Ortiz most definitely should have been there. I dropped the ball in that regard. It was a busy week for us here, as you can see by the content. Lots of articles to write, radio shows to do, phone calls, etc. There are also some big business deals we're working on so we're working on a lot of things in which our effort cannot be measured through public appearance. But I did bust my ass on the CBS column. It's not something I rush through. It just slipped through the cracks. But I do appreciate everyone who took the time out to read the article. Grappo, thank you. You’re exactly right. Bonnar vs. Griffin was a pivotal fight for the UFC but the article clearly clarifies in the intro that the listing wasn’t about the best fights or the most pivotal/important.

Also, Liddell vs. Ortiz most definitely should have been there. I dropped the ball in that regard. It was a busy week for us here, as you can see by the content. Lots of articles to write, radio shows to do, phone calls, etc. There are also some big business deals we’re working on so we’re working on a lot of things in which our effort cannot be measured through public appearance.

But I did bust my ass on the CBS column. It’s not something I rush through. It just slipped through the cracks. But I do appreciate everyone who took the time out to read the article.

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]]> By: Grappo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/15/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-the-biggest-fights-in-ufc-history/comment-page-1/#comment-57122 Grappo Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:15:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8895#comment-57122 ^^ Exactly. That fight was the introduction to the sport for a lot of MMA fans, and the fact that it was just gutsy, swinging for the fences made it exciting to the casual viewer and probably prompted them to watch more in the future. In terms of what it did for the UFC (and MMA) I would place it higher on the list than a few of the listed fights. Not hyped much before the fight, but definitely hyped later (not that I care about hype anyway.) ^^

Exactly. That fight was the introduction to the sport for a lot of MMA fans, and the fact that it was just gutsy, swinging for the fences made it exciting to the casual viewer and probably prompted them to watch more in the future. In terms of what it did for the UFC (and MMA) I would place it higher on the list than a few of the listed fights. Not hyped much before the fight, but definitely hyped later (not that I care about hype anyway.)

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/15/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-the-biggest-fights-in-ufc-history/comment-page-1/#comment-57011 Sergio Hernandez Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:07:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8895#comment-57011 "no way, that fight is so overrated." From a technical standpoint, yes. I wouldn't say it is one the biggest fights ever, though. Sam's list consists of fights that were hyped up leading up to the event. Bonnar/Griffin I wasn't expected to be as much of a watershed moment as it turned out to be. Like Hex said, it may be overrated but that's when you view the technical aspect of it. Otherwise, it's two young guys fighting their hearts out and ushering in a new era for MMA. And watching that fight then, who would have thought that the winner of that fight would end up becoming the uncontested light heavyweight champion of the world? “no way, that fight is so overrated.”

From a technical standpoint, yes.

I wouldn’t say it is one the biggest fights ever, though. Sam’s list consists of fights that were hyped up leading up to the event.

Bonnar/Griffin I wasn’t expected to be as much of a watershed moment as it turned out to be. Like Hex said, it may be overrated but that’s when you view the technical aspect of it. Otherwise, it’s two young guys fighting their hearts out and ushering in a new era for MMA.

And watching that fight then, who would have thought that the winner of that fight would end up becoming the uncontested light heavyweight champion of the world?

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]]> By: Stan the Caddy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/15/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-the-biggest-fights-in-ufc-history/comment-page-1/#comment-57010 Stan the Caddy Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:59:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8895#comment-57010 As someone else already mentioned, Liddell vs. Ortiz 2 is the biggest fight ever in the history of the UFC and arguably MMA. Kind of laughable that it's not included on your list. As someone else already mentioned, Liddell vs. Ortiz 2 is the biggest fight ever in the history of the UFC and arguably MMA. Kind of laughable that it’s not included on your list.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/15/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-the-biggest-fights-in-ufc-history/comment-page-1/#comment-57006 HexRei Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:46:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8895#comment-57006 no way, that fight is so overrated. no way, that fight is so overrated.

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]]> By: Grappo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/15/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-the-biggest-fights-in-ufc-history/comment-page-1/#comment-57004 Grappo Sat, 15 Nov 2008 22:15:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8895#comment-57004 I think a case can be made for the Griffin-Bonnar fight of the TUF 1 Finale making the list. I think a case can be made for the Griffin-Bonnar fight of the TUF 1 Finale making the list.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/15/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-the-biggest-fights-in-ufc-history/comment-page-1/#comment-56991 HexRei Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:55:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8895#comment-56991 By "these guys", I guess I meant Sam. for shame sam, for shame! By “these guys”, I guess I meant Sam. for shame sam, for shame!

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/15/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-the-biggest-fights-in-ufc-history/comment-page-1/#comment-56990 HexRei Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:54:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8895#comment-56990 Oh and Sergio, totally agreed. Oh and Sergio, totally agreed.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/15/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-the-biggest-fights-in-ufc-history/comment-page-1/#comment-56989 HexRei Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:52:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8895#comment-56989 <b>June 6, 2003, Chuck Liddell vs. Randy Couture at UFC 43: If there was a poll conducted to determine the two most recognizable fighters in UFC history, odds are strong that Liddell and Couture would win. The thing that I remember about this match is that even back then, Couture was still at a crossroads. After competing almost exclusively as a heavyweight up until the "Meltdown" event, Couture acknowledged that he just wasn't a match for bigger fighters such as Ricco Rodriguez and Josh Barnett. The 205 division was Couture's new home, but standing in his way was the seemingly invincible Liddell, who had never lost a UFC fight. In typical Couture fashion, he defied the odds and out-punched the puncher. </b> These guys needs to check their facts: Chuck had lost a fight prior to fighting Randy. Jeremy Horn choked him out cold with that sweet guillotine at UFC 19. June 6, 2003, Chuck Liddell vs. Randy Couture at UFC 43: If there was a poll conducted to determine the two most recognizable fighters in UFC history, odds are strong that Liddell and Couture would win. The thing that I remember about this match is that even back then, Couture was still at a crossroads. After competing almost exclusively as a heavyweight up until the “Meltdown” event, Couture acknowledged that he just wasn’t a match for bigger fighters such as Ricco Rodriguez and Josh Barnett. The 205 division was Couture’s new home, but standing in his way was the seemingly invincible Liddell, who had never lost a UFC fight. In typical Couture fashion, he defied the odds and out-punched the puncher.

These guys needs to check their facts: Chuck had lost a fight prior to fighting Randy. Jeremy Horn choked him out cold with that sweet guillotine at UFC 19.

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