Lesnar is not unbeatable, or Mir wouldn’t have beaten him in the first place. And everyone stop using the unjustified stand up of that fight as an excuse. And it certainly didn’t look like a “hail mary” submission attempt from Mir in my opinion. I don’t even know what that means. Mir meant to lock up Lesnar’s leg and tap him like a bitch, and that’s exactly what Mir did. End of story. Brock is beatable.

This Fedor talk is rubbish.

Being so quick to write off the HWs because of a dominant performance over Randy is just nonsense.

Please note: I picked Lesnar to beat Randy. But logic made my pick, not his overwhelming physical presence. Stock up on ketchup because there were a whole lot of words there to eat and my guess is it won’t be all that tasty.

Nog KO’s Mir, then submits Brock. That comes first, before all this talk of “10 time defending HW champ Lesnar”.

So Brock shows more maturity as a fighter and beat a very good match up for him – now he’s invincible. Is he good? Yes, it seems he is. Is he invincible? I guess we’ll see.

If you all can think into the past a bit, you will remember WHY Randy cut down to LHW. The guys were just too damn big for him. And you will remember why he went back up to HW…Jeff Monson V Tim Sylvia, anyone? Remember that? That was actually a title shot fight. If Randy was out-classes three years ago at HW, why wouldn’t he still be?

The Natural saw a chance to get his belt back and he took it. But I don’t think he seriously expected to keep it very long. It was a last hurrah.

The first principle of judging sports is who is more athletic, and does that athleticism make up for their weaknesses. Does a qb’s feet make up for his lack of throwing distance. Does height make up for lack of movement in basketball.

Does pure strength, speed, and size makeup for lack of technical skill in MMA. With such a drastic advantage that Lesnar has the answer is yes. Which always makes the odds in his favor.

At one point in the fight, Lesnar took a knee from Couture while they were against the cage, and while he wasn’t nearly close to being rocked at all, Lesnar pulled his head away to the other side and looked like he really hated being hit.

Secondly, I’m tired of everyone saying the Mir win was so cheap & there was no way Mir had a chance…well here’s some news, the point deduction may not have been necessary, but the stand-up was an excellent call. If you disagree, I suppose you think we shouldn’t stop fights for nutshots and direct elbows too? In addition to that, Mir, who virtually has little stand-up skills to speak of, was boasting beforehand that he was going to show Brock what it felt like to be hit in the face, likely taking Brock somewhat lightly gameplan wise. Brock could beat Mir, but he’d have to rock him on his feet first and probably not follow up unless Mir was totally out of it.

I could sit here and list other means other heavyweights could beat Brock but I’ll just do it in Nog’s case, since he, like Mir, has a potential shot at Brock coming up. Have people not watched Nogueira’s fights? Has no one seen Nogueira vs Bob Sapp or Tim Sylvia? Nogueira can take incredible amounts of punishment and still stick to his gameplan to pull a W out of nowhere. If he & Brock fight, I’ll bet that Brock Lesnar may be winning on the scorecards, but Nog finishes him. If Brock wins, he’ll have to do it by decision. Nog never loses, he just runs out of time. You may think that Heath letting Nogueira up was a bad idea (and maybe he could’ve tried to throw a few more strikes at him while he was on the ground first), but Herring knows what Nog is capable of. After seeing what happened to Sylvia when he went in to the ground to finish Nog, maybe letting Nog up was the better idea, as ridiculous as it sounds…

The point being, anything can happen in MMA…look at 2007 the year of the upset. Brock’s reign of terror is far from unstoppable. And counting everyone else out just shows pure disrespect to the rest of the heavyweight division in or out of the UFC.

Come on, Sam. I expected better from you.

I think it will be impossible for a striker or especially a wrestler to beat Lesnar. A high level jits guy like Nog or Gonzaga (who is almost as big as Lesnar) will, at this point in Lesnar’s career, have a significant advantage. I even think Mir stands a chance, but he’s not getting by Nog, so, you know, whatever.

for lesnar to truly dominate, he needs to stay back on his feet, use his wrestling and the threat of takedowns to frustrate his opponent, and wait for the right spots to unload with that one big shot.

As far as you band wagon sissys who talked shit about Lesnar since day one. I wrote all of your names down so don’t think you can be getting on his back. At least 50-60% of you thought Lesnar was a joke. I knew since day one he would dominate the sport and there are very few Men that I can think of that can beat him at this point.

But seriously, maybe someone like Kongo with his ability to mix up his striking, if he can play matador to a charging lesner, rip the leg kicks and stay off the ground, MIGHT give us a good style match up,and show us some new holes, even though his Herring fight loss doesn’t bode well. But he still gives up 3″ in reach to Lesner. Only Mir and Sylvia come close at 79 and 80″ . No surprises there.
Can you say freak?

With Lesner still so new to this, plus his ability to learn AND EXCEL in WHATEVER he does, i think we’re in for a dynasty with a lot of great HW action along the way.

Fedor/Lesner WILL happen at some point, but not before Brock has a complete toolbox.
And when he does,………

I see him as losing the belt early in 2009 and in the end of 2009 going for that belt again (and he will probably get a hold of it few times). But still, yesterday I saw a complete different things…

a) Brock is not an absolute wrestling monster machine. Couture kinda tied with him in wrestling yesterday so I think, that other top HW wrestlers (younger, heavier) can do the same – maybe Carwin, Velasquez, (outside UFC ie Barnett)
b) There are fighters with better standup than Lesnar (his standup is focused mainly on his monstrous fists and power, not exactly technic) and his chin is probably normal one. Gonzaga, Nog, Dos Santos (Arlovski)
c) He will be probably always vulnerable to top JJ guys (Nog, Mir)

Lesnar is just different kind of guy, who pose a lot of interesting problems that some fighters are not accustomed to – for Randy it was a terrible matchup. But I can imagine a lot of ways how to defeat Lesnar with certain skillsets and if I think about for example Nog or Fedor, then it is Lesnar who is seriously mismatched. What can you do with wrestling, when you are fighting with someone, who is:
1) pretty impossible to knock out
2) better than you in the standup
3) better than you on the ground.