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	<title>Comments on: The Brock Lesnar Era is Upon Us</title>
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		<title>By: mace</title>
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		<dc:creator>mace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. Anyone who knows anything about the submission game knows that Frank Mir&#039;s submission on Lesnar was not just a hail mary. Ryo Chonan on Anderson Silva was a hail mary. Mir was actually going for a different submission than a footlock but because Lesnar jumped when his leg was wrapped up instead of coming straight down so Mir could figure-4 it, he changed it to a footlock at the last minute. Being able to improvise like that takes skill. It wasn&#039;t like he tried some uber-crazy, high-risk, high-reward move that wouldn&#039;t have worked 99 times out of a 100 or something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah. Anyone who knows anything about the submission game knows that Frank Mir&#8217;s submission on Lesnar was not just a hail mary. Ryo Chonan on Anderson Silva was a hail mary. Mir was actually going for a different submission than a footlock but because Lesnar jumped when his leg was wrapped up instead of coming straight down so Mir could figure-4 it, he changed it to a footlock at the last minute. Being able to improvise like that takes skill. It wasn&#8217;t like he tried some uber-crazy, high-risk, high-reward move that wouldn&#8217;t have worked 99 times out of a 100 or something&#8230;
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s ridiculous to say that there is nobody out there right now who can beat Lesnar except Fedor. Lesnar still has no idea what to do with somebody once he gets them on their back. Most of the time when he had Randy on his back he was just laying and praying, and Randy isn&#039;t exactly a submission wizard from off his back. Big Nog, Josh Barnett, Gonzaga, and even Mir all have a great chance of beating Lesnar. I would even venture to say that IF, and that&#039;s a big if, Arlovski or Tim Sylvia could keep Lesnar from taking them down, they might even beat him. And thanks to the evil Dana White, I guess we&#039;ll never know what Werdum could have done now that he&#039;s gotten rid of him supposedly. 

Lesnar is not unbeatable, or Mir wouldn&#039;t have beaten him in the first place. And everyone stop using the unjustified stand up of that fight as an excuse. And it certainly didn&#039;t look like a &quot;hail mary&quot; submission attempt from Mir in my opinion. I don&#039;t even know what that means. Mir meant to lock up Lesnar&#039;s leg and tap him like a bitch, and that&#039;s exactly what Mir did. End of story. Brock is beatable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s ridiculous to say that there is nobody out there right now who can beat Lesnar except Fedor. Lesnar still has no idea what to do with somebody once he gets them on their back. Most of the time when he had Randy on his back he was just laying and praying, and Randy isn&#8217;t exactly a submission wizard from off his back. Big Nog, Josh Barnett, Gonzaga, and even Mir all have a great chance of beating Lesnar. I would even venture to say that IF, and that&#8217;s a big if, Arlovski or Tim Sylvia could keep Lesnar from taking them down, they might even beat him. And thanks to the evil Dana White, I guess we&#8217;ll never know what Werdum could have done now that he&#8217;s gotten rid of him supposedly. </p>
<p>Lesnar is not unbeatable, or Mir wouldn&#8217;t have beaten him in the first place. And everyone stop using the unjustified stand up of that fight as an excuse. And it certainly didn&#8217;t look like a &#8220;hail mary&#8221; submission attempt from Mir in my opinion. I don&#8217;t even know what that means. Mir meant to lock up Lesnar&#8217;s leg and tap him like a bitch, and that&#8217;s exactly what Mir did. End of story. Brock is beatable.
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And if Fedor does (by some miracle comparative to the immaculate conception)  join the UFC to fight Brock, my guess is Randy walks away from the UFC again. Regardless of the cost. And i wouldn&#039;t blame him one bit.

This Fedor talk is rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if Fedor does (by some miracle comparative to the immaculate conception)  join the UFC to fight Brock, my guess is Randy walks away from the UFC again. Regardless of the cost. And i wouldn&#8217;t blame him one bit.</p>
<p>This Fedor talk is rubbish.
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 07:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave - I couldn&#039;t have said it better. Talk of Brock vs Fedor is ridiculous. And to think that Nog is unable to submit him within 5 rounds is also ridiculous.Next thing you know, Silva goes to 220/230 to fight Brock because there is noone competitive enough for him in LHW. Please, Sam. Calm yourself.

Being so quick to write off the HWs because of a dominant performance over Randy is just nonsense. 

Please note: I picked Lesnar to beat Randy. But logic made my pick, not his overwhelming physical presence. Stock up on ketchup because there were a whole lot of words there to eat and my guess is it won&#039;t be all that tasty. 

Nog KO&#039;s Mir, then submits Brock. That comes first, before all this talk of &quot;10 time defending HW champ Lesnar&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t have said it better. Talk of Brock vs Fedor is ridiculous. And to think that Nog is unable to submit him within 5 rounds is also ridiculous.Next thing you know, Silva goes to 220/230 to fight Brock because there is noone competitive enough for him in LHW. Please, Sam. Calm yourself.</p>
<p>Being so quick to write off the HWs because of a dominant performance over Randy is just nonsense. </p>
<p>Please note: I picked Lesnar to beat Randy. But logic made my pick, not his overwhelming physical presence. Stock up on ketchup because there were a whole lot of words there to eat and my guess is it won&#8217;t be all that tasty. </p>
<p>Nog KO&#8217;s Mir, then submits Brock. That comes first, before all this talk of &#8220;10 time defending HW champ Lesnar&#8221;.
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give me a break its this kind of presumptuous swill that makes you like foolish time and time again. Lesnar looks great admittedly but the idea that Nog will be a cake walk is absurd. We still have not seen anyone land a good shot on the guy and we already know he has trouble with submissions. Don&#039;t tell me Randy has the hands to test Brock&#039;s chin cause we all know he does not. If Lesnar keeps to a strict game plan and manages to stay off the ground with Nog or Mir he has a chance but with four fights Lesnar has a lot of skill sets and discipline to learn and that is why it is so absurd you of all people are already giving him the Fedor treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give me a break its this kind of presumptuous swill that makes you like foolish time and time again. Lesnar looks great admittedly but the idea that Nog will be a cake walk is absurd. We still have not seen anyone land a good shot on the guy and we already know he has trouble with submissions. Don&#8217;t tell me Randy has the hands to test Brock&#8217;s chin cause we all know he does not. If Lesnar keeps to a strict game plan and manages to stay off the ground with Nog or Mir he has a chance but with four fights Lesnar has a lot of skill sets and discipline to learn and that is why it is so absurd you of all people are already giving him the Fedor treatment.
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		<title>By: Itshisownfault</title>
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		<dc:creator>Itshisownfault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting tone.  All I could think of is &quot;Is the same guy that said people were jumping on the Rashad Evans bandwagon after the Liddel crushing?&quot;

So Brock shows more maturity as a fighter and beat a very good match up for him - now he&#039;s invincible.  Is he good?  Yes, it seems he is.  Is he invincible?  I guess we&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting tone.  All I could think of is &#8220;Is the same guy that said people were jumping on the Rashad Evans bandwagon after the Liddel crushing?&#8221;</p>
<p>So Brock shows more maturity as a fighter and beat a very good match up for him &#8211; now he&#8217;s invincible.  Is he good?  Yes, it seems he is.  Is he invincible?  I guess we&#8217;ll see.
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Mace here. With all of you guys hugging Lesnar&#039;s nuts, you have already ran out of space. 

If you all can think into the past a bit, you will remember WHY Randy cut down to LHW. The guys were just too damn big for him. And you will remember why he went back up to HW...Jeff Monson V Tim Sylvia, anyone? Remember that? That was actually a title shot fight. If Randy was out-classes three years ago at HW, why wouldn&#039;t he still be? 

The Natural saw a chance to get his belt back and he took it. But I don&#039;t think he seriously expected to keep it very long. It was a last hurrah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mace here. With all of you guys hugging Lesnar&#8217;s nuts, you have already ran out of space. </p>
<p>If you all can think into the past a bit, you will remember WHY Randy cut down to LHW. The guys were just too damn big for him. And you will remember why he went back up to HW&#8230;Jeff Monson V Tim Sylvia, anyone? Remember that? That was actually a title shot fight. If Randy was out-classes three years ago at HW, why wouldn&#8217;t he still be? </p>
<p>The Natural saw a chance to get his belt back and he took it. But I don&#8217;t think he seriously expected to keep it very long. It was a last hurrah.
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this talk of Fedor...  Fedor is Pride. He will never come to UFC.  Fedor is all about the Fight, no the Money.  UFC is money money money money.  Dana will tell you  that, thats why he made this fight... he was boasting about biggest PPV fight in history... He didnt care who he messed around, Tito told people long ago what dana is like.. Hes a money hungry Punk.
All these guys, taking punishment....  They&#039;ve never taken the punishment that Broks got the potential to give, and hes only going to get better.
WWE, pffffffffft who cares, they&#039;ll be loads more merging over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this talk of Fedor&#8230;  Fedor is Pride. He will never come to UFC.  Fedor is all about the Fight, no the Money.  UFC is money money money money.  Dana will tell you  that, thats why he made this fight&#8230; he was boasting about biggest PPV fight in history&#8230; He didnt care who he messed around, Tito told people long ago what dana is like.. Hes a money hungry Punk.<br />
All these guys, taking punishment&#8230;.  They&#8217;ve never taken the punishment that Broks got the potential to give, and hes only going to get better.<br />
WWE, pffffffffft who cares, they&#8217;ll be loads more merging over.
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		<title>By: Voridor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voridor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vanilla gorilla! What a perfect nickname!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vanilla gorilla! What a perfect nickname!
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somewhere Fabricio Werdum is shitting blood.</description>
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