Comments on: UFC 91: Results And Recap http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 18:11:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Robert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57277 Robert Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:57:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57277 aaron "Brock will be champ for awhile" is a bit premature if he fights Nogueira which i think he will taking him down could be his downfall because if Mir can submit him Nogueira certainly will. Brock I'm sure when he took Randy down and started pounding away the first time wasn't concerned at all with getting submitted, and if Brock has shown a big weakness thus far it's a lack of submission defense. aaron “Brock will be champ for awhile” is a bit premature if he fights Nogueira which i think he will taking him down could be his downfall because if Mir can submit him Nogueira certainly will. Brock I’m sure when he took Randy down and started pounding away the first time wasn’t concerned at all with getting submitted, and if Brock has shown a big weakness thus far it’s a lack of submission defense.

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]]> By: aaron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57209 aaron Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:25:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57209 9 TOTAL FIGHTS! AND EVERY SINGLE ONE WAS GOOD. BEST PPV OF THE YEAR! THEY GOT THE BONUSES RIGHT TOO! BROCK WILL BE CHAMP FOR A WHILE. HE GETS BETTER EVERY TIME OUT. 9 TOTAL FIGHTS! AND EVERY SINGLE ONE WAS GOOD. BEST PPV OF THE YEAR! THEY GOT THE BONUSES RIGHT TOO! BROCK WILL BE CHAMP FOR A WHILE. HE GETS BETTER EVERY TIME OUT.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57176 Rich S. Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:42:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57176 i don't think we'll ever see Randy reduced to a gatekeeper.. the way i see it right now.. if you aren't Brock Lesnar or MInotauro Nogueira you can't beat Randy Couture.. i don’t think we’ll ever see Randy reduced to a gatekeeper..

the way i see it right now.. if you aren’t Brock Lesnar or MInotauro Nogueira you can’t beat Randy Couture..

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]]> By: Jackyl http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57134 Jackyl Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:10:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57134 Excellent card. I'm really happy we got to see every fight on the card. For a card that was considered weak by some it really shined. This is one of those cards that, other than the main event, did not have a huge amount of name recognition. But sometimes the more obscure cards give us the best fights. Couple that with the production team throwing every fight in and you have a happy customer in myself. As far as the results. Demian Maia contiunes to impress. Kenny Florian keeps getting better. Nice job calling out BJ Penn! Dustin Hazelett is becoming my new favorite fighter. Gabe Gonzaga shot himself right back in the heavyweight mix. I was impressed with Randy Couture's game plan. I think he gave Lesnar a great fight. Lesnar just landed a perfect shot. Right on the side of the head, had him totally disoriented. Good job by Lesnar to not get too excited and get the finish. My last comment goes to the people that say Lesnar did not deserve this fight: He absolutely deserved it. He deserved it because it was an extremely marketable fight that he had a good chance to win. Experience aside, you have to look at his size and athleticism. Now that he has the title I think it will be hard to take it away. Nog has the best chance but Lesnar is defenitely going to be prepared to defend his title. With Nog and Mir being tied up with their fight, who else would Randy fight in his return. It was the best fight the UFC could give us. It also turned out to be a great fight. On top of that, not only a great fight but a great card. Great job UFC! Excellent card. I’m really happy we got to see every fight on the card. For a card that was considered weak by some it really shined. This is one of those cards that, other than the main event, did not have a huge amount of name recognition. But sometimes the more obscure cards give us the best fights. Couple that with the production team throwing every fight in and you have a happy customer in myself. As far as the results. Demian Maia contiunes to impress. Kenny Florian keeps getting better. Nice job calling out BJ Penn! Dustin Hazelett is becoming my new favorite fighter. Gabe Gonzaga shot himself right back in the heavyweight mix. I was impressed with Randy Couture’s game plan. I think he gave Lesnar a great fight. Lesnar just landed a perfect shot. Right on the side of the head, had him totally disoriented. Good job by Lesnar to not get too excited and get the finish. My last comment goes to the people that say Lesnar did not deserve this fight: He absolutely deserved it. He deserved it because it was an extremely marketable fight that he had a good chance to win. Experience aside, you have to look at his size and athleticism. Now that he has the title I think it will be hard to take it away. Nog has the best chance but Lesnar is defenitely going to be prepared to defend his title. With Nog and Mir being tied up with their fight, who else would Randy fight in his return. It was the best fight the UFC could give us. It also turned out to be a great fight. On top of that, not only a great fight but a great card. Great job UFC!

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]]> By: Newport http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57133 Newport Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:04:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57133 There's nothing wrong with Randy Couture, he's still one of the best fighters in the world. He just fought a gigantic man bear last night. Brock is just too big and strong for someone to outwrestle. When Brock loses his belt, it won't be because he fought a better wrestler, he'll lose to a black belt level grappler or a great striker. It was just a terrible match up for Randy There’s nothing wrong with Randy Couture, he’s still one of the best fighters in the world. He just fought a gigantic man bear last night. Brock is just too big and strong for someone to outwrestle. When Brock loses his belt, it won’t be because he fought a better wrestler, he’ll lose to a black belt level grappler or a great striker. It was just a terrible match up for Randy

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]]> By: iwebie http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57125 iwebie Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:30:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57125 UFC 91 is a mixed martial arts event to be held by the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) on November 15, 2008 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada. For more on UFC 91 Results check out <em>(link deleted)</em> <em>Editor's Note: Link was deleted. Folks, please be respectful and only use these threads to express your views, not as a forum to self-promote. We don't go to your site and spam it, so please show us the same courtesy.</em> UFC 91 is a mixed martial arts event to be held by the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) on November 15, 2008 at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada. For more on UFC 91 Results check out (link deleted)

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]]> By: balzac http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57120 balzac Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:53:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57120 I actually hope Fedor never fights in the UFC. Keep some quality competition for the UFC, so they have to put together shows like they did last night. Also, After once again watching the grind 'em against the cage stategies, I hope we continue to see matches in a ring......... I would like see if someone can keep a list of all the descriptives used about Lesnar fists.....yesterday we had Lunchbox, and hamhock......... I actually hope Fedor never fights in the UFC. Keep some quality competition for the UFC, so they have to put together shows like they did last night. Also, After once again watching the grind ‘em against the cage stategies, I hope we continue to see matches in a ring………

I would like see if someone can keep a list of all the descriptives used about Lesnar fists…..yesterday we had Lunchbox, and hamhock………

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]]> By: mat http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57110 mat Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:43:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57110 Im very dissapointed in the ufc.Brock did not even disserve to get that fight.there are a lot of other fighters that should have gotten it long before him.I feel it made the ufc look bad by bringing a nobody in and giving him the chance to be champion.He wont stay champ for long.not to take anything away from couture but i think everybody knew he wasnt going to stay champ for long.He has a lot of losses.Lesnar may win a couple more fights but there a lot of people that will beat him down.Hes a newb and has a lot learn. Im very dissapointed in the ufc.Brock did not even disserve to get that fight.there are a lot of other fighters that should have gotten it long before him.I feel it made the ufc look bad by bringing a nobody in and giving him the chance to be champion.He wont stay champ for long.not to take anything away from couture but i think everybody knew he wasnt going to stay champ for long.He has a lot of losses.Lesnar may win a couple more fights but there a lot of people that will beat him down.Hes a newb and has a lot learn.

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]]> By: Dr.Stoppage http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57103 Dr.Stoppage Sun, 16 Nov 2008 13:00:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57103 Couture still has a few interesting fights left in the UFC even if they're not title fights. At the very least he might be the heavyweight gatekeeper for awhile. Couture still has a few interesting fights left in the UFC even if they’re not title fights.
At the very least he might be the heavyweight gatekeeper for awhile.

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]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57101 darkmetal Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:30:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57101 Even if Lesnar beat Fedor we would hear the whining "He only won because he is big". Sam Caplan makes a valid point in that we might never see Fedor fight in the UFC, as his management seems very happy having him fight nobodies and losers like Tim Sylvia. Does anyone think that Sylvia would have made it 1 round with Brock Lesnar? Until Fedor steps up and decides to face competition he is simply a mute point. Even if Lesnar beat Fedor we would hear the whining “He only won because he is big”.
Sam Caplan makes a valid point in that we might never see Fedor fight in the UFC, as his management seems very happy having him fight nobodies and losers like Tim Sylvia. Does anyone think that Sylvia would have made it 1 round with Brock Lesnar?
Until Fedor steps up and decides to face competition he is simply a mute point.

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]]> By: Army Guy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57092 Army Guy Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:35:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57092 I think the "Randy is too old" bit is premature. He got caught with a monster punch in the temple. Let's not forget that Chuck caught him twice. Randy came back and had some monster wins. I'm not saying age isn't a factor, but I thought he was wearing Brock down - Lesnar was slowing and Couture was coming at him. The problem seemed to be less about Couture's conditioning or skill and more about the fact that when a dude is 265 pounds of crazy athletic muscle, you really can't afford to get hit. I think the “Randy is too old” bit is premature. He got caught with a monster punch in the temple. Let’s not forget that Chuck caught him twice. Randy came back and had some monster wins. I’m not saying age isn’t a factor, but I thought he was wearing Brock down – Lesnar was slowing and Couture was coming at him.

The problem seemed to be less about Couture’s conditioning or skill and more about the fact that when a dude is 265 pounds of crazy athletic muscle, you really can’t afford to get hit.

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]]> By: THORAZINE http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57090 THORAZINE Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:53:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57090 That punch Lesnar threw to knock down Couture reminded me a lot of that 1st punch Matt Serra grazed the back of GSP’s head before Serra capitalized on a seris of punches to end their 1st fight. Couture was doing pretty good but what shocked me about the fight was Couture’s physique’ he looked smooth and a bit smaller than he did 1 1/2 yrs ago. Lesnar was right when he said Couture looked like a guy that took a year off. However, I don’t think the lay off is necessarily the case, it’s physiology and changes Couture is going through at his age, his body is producing more estrogen and even less testostrone.. it looked like age is finally catching up to him. The Couture that fought Gonzaga looked like the best Couture I’ve ever seen and we won’t see that type of performance from Couture again. Time to let the younger lions rule the cage. Also, FEDOR would definitely beat Lesnar… Goldie comentating.. Goldie: “Are you kidding me”!! That punch Lesnar threw to knock down Couture reminded me a lot of that 1st punch Matt Serra grazed the back of GSP’s head before Serra capitalized on a seris of punches to end their 1st fight.

Couture was doing pretty good but what shocked me about the fight was Couture’s physique’ he looked smooth and a bit smaller than he did 1 1/2 yrs ago. Lesnar was right when he said Couture looked like a guy that took a year off. However, I don’t think the lay off is necessarily the case, it’s physiology and changes Couture is going through at his age, his body is producing more estrogen and even less testostrone.. it looked like age is finally catching up to him.

The Couture that fought Gonzaga looked like the best Couture I’ve ever seen and we won’t see that type of performance from Couture again. Time to let the younger lions rule the cage.

Also, FEDOR would definitely beat Lesnar… Goldie comentating..

Goldie: “Are you kidding me”!!

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57089 mike wolfe Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:51:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57089 If Hazelett keeps the beard, he needs a suitable nickname like "Hillbilly from Hell" or just "Hellbilly." Great fights, and a better ppv than I thought it would be. If Hazelett keeps the beard, he needs a suitable nickname like “Hillbilly from Hell” or just “Hellbilly.”

Great fights, and a better ppv than I thought it would be.

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]]> By: THORAZINE http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57088 THORAZINE Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:51:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57088 posting comments too quickly?? WTF? posting comments too quickly?? WTF?

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57086 JOe K. Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:40:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57086 I complained all week about the UFC not showing enough fights and wasting time with hype. I was pleasantly proven wrong. They showed every fight. It really looked like they made an effort to get as many fights in as possible. I don't mind if all the main cards fights goto decision and they don't show all of the fights just as long as they make their best attempt to get as many fights as possible in. I hope the WEC follows suit and does this for their next event. Top to bottom this was the best card of fights I have seen in one event, the only one I can think of that was this consistently entertaining was UFC 73. The ESPN coverage was great and needs to be a regular thing... on air!!!! I complained all week about the UFC not showing enough fights and wasting time with hype. I was pleasantly proven wrong.

They showed every fight. It really looked like they made an effort to get as many fights in as possible.

I don’t mind if all the main cards fights goto decision and they don’t show all of the fights just as long as they make their best attempt to get as many fights as possible in.

I hope the WEC follows suit and does this for their next event.

Top to bottom this was the best card of fights I have seen in one event, the only one I can think of that was this consistently entertaining was UFC 73.

The ESPN coverage was great and needs to be a regular thing… on air!!!!

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]]> By: dpk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57084 dpk Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:21:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57084 on MMA Live's post fight coverage, Stephen Bonner just called for Gonzaga and Carwin to fight to be the number 1 contender to fight the Lesnar v nog/mir winner. I agree, and think that Gonzaga v Carwin really needs to happen. Maia v Bisping would be a very interesting fight for the number 1 contender Florian took out Joe Daddy faster than BJ, so now UFC can get BJ focused to go back and clean out a legit challenger after he is done fighting GSP BTW - the on site post fight coverage on ESPN.com was a great step, I hope that it continues after all of the major UFC cards. I also made a comment earlier that Randy might now leave UFC to try and fight Fedor, but after hearing Dana White's comments, I think Randy will be around for at least one more fight. Maybe against the Nog/Mir loser, or maybe vs. Anderson Silva at 205. on MMA Live’s post fight coverage, Stephen Bonner just called for Gonzaga and Carwin to fight to be the number 1 contender to fight the Lesnar v nog/mir winner. I agree, and think that Gonzaga v Carwin really needs to happen.

Maia v Bisping would be a very interesting fight for the number 1 contender
Florian took out Joe Daddy faster than BJ, so now UFC can get BJ focused to go back and clean out a legit challenger after he is done fighting GSP

BTW – the on site post fight coverage on ESPN.com was a great step, I hope that it continues after all of the major UFC cards. I also made a comment earlier that Randy might now leave UFC to try and fight Fedor, but after hearing Dana White’s comments, I think Randy will be around for at least one more fight. Maybe against the Nog/Mir loser, or maybe vs. Anderson Silva at 205.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57083 Rich S. Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:16:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57083 oh and what was up w/ Daddy?? I think he beats Kenflo 8 times out of 10.. something was wrong tonight.. he was off.. oh and what was up w/ Daddy??

I think he beats Kenflo 8 times out of 10..

something was wrong tonight..
he was off..

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57082 Rich S. Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:07:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57082 I've always hated Gonzaga.. with a passion.. simply for his bout w/ Kevin Jordan.. I mean, that was all i needed to hate this man.. Anyway, after 2 consecutive 1 minute victories.. i'm really starting to like him.. Although his striking is what finished the fight, i thought it looked kind of sluggish/slow... I just think if he was fighting Shane Carwin or something he would've gotten KO'd.. either way, job well done.. I’ve always hated Gonzaga.. with a passion.. simply for his bout w/ Kevin Jordan..
I mean,
that was all i needed to hate this man..

Anyway,
after 2 consecutive 1 minute victories.. i’m really starting to like him..

Although his striking is what finished the fight, i thought it looked kind of sluggish/slow…
I just think if he was fighting Shane Carwin or something he would’ve gotten KO’d..

either way,
job well done..

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]]> By: matthew http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57078 matthew Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:42:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57078 And only one went to decision? Rare event. Good for the fans. As i had my doubts about any of the non main event fights, I congratulate the fighters for making this card great. As an aside, please drop Jorge Gurgel from the UFC roster. He's had enough opportunities to shine and never really has. If Werdum, Lambert etc are having contracts questioned, reduced or dropped, surely Gurgel needs to join the group. And only one went to decision? Rare event. Good for the fans.

As i had my doubts about any of the non main event fights, I congratulate the fighters for making this card great.

As an aside, please drop Jorge Gurgel from the UFC roster. He’s had enough opportunities to shine and never really has. If Werdum, Lambert etc are having contracts questioned, reduced or dropped, surely Gurgel needs to join the group.

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]]> By: Robert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/16/ufc-91-results-and-recap/comment-page-1/#comment-57076 Robert Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:29:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=8955#comment-57076 Excellent event I'm really a little surprised how some people are pointing out now how old Couture looked, he IS old. When a guy takes off over a year at that age you can't really gauge how much he has lost skill wise till you see him compete again.Granted Randy would still beat a majority of Heavyweight fighters he's not the same guy who beat up Gabe Gonzaga over a year ago.Nice card Hazelett's ju-jitsu is awesome and he's only 22,also another win or 2 and Gonzaga might be facing Lesnar. Excellent event I’m really a little surprised how some people are pointing out now how old Couture looked, he IS old. When a guy takes off over a year at that age you can’t really gauge how much he has lost skill wise till you see him compete again.Granted Randy would still beat a majority of Heavyweight fighters he’s not the same guy who beat up Gabe Gonzaga over a year ago.Nice card Hazelett’s ju-jitsu is awesome and he’s only 22,also another win or 2 and Gonzaga might be facing Lesnar.

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