Comments on: Jon Fitch back in the UFC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 18:11:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Dr.Stoppage http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-58081 Dr.Stoppage Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:31:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-58081 stevefiji, Just remember though,at least WAMMA has Bill Goldberg onboard to help with their credibility. stevefiji,
Just remember though,at least WAMMA has Bill Goldberg onboard to help with their credibility.

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]]> By: stevefiji http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57996 stevefiji Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:45:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57996 Matthew, Pride failed and/or was bought up, that depends on how you look at it... economics dictate in this type of model that there will be one major player. The other leagues, if they are smart or want to stay afloat, will serve as feeder leagues for various levels of talent. Where have I said there should be only one league?... I have said there should be only ONE BELT! WAMMA are parasites, pure and simple... putting on a face of goodwill and yet promoting just the opposite. If WAMMA truly had MMA at heart they would be wagering a campaign for legalization in all 50 states, for unionization and ensuing benefit programs of the fighters and for public marketing and awareness in the US and worldwide and they should NOT try an live off of another organization's hard work with bogus belts, titles and rankings. They disgust me, working under false pretenses of supposed 'do gooders' and doing nothing but trying to embellish their own pockets. They are smart enough to see the explosion potential of MMA and they are simply trying to position themselves as more powerful players down the road because they want a piece of what Zuffa created. Who would take serious some other organization trying to declare a different NFL champion? Who takes serious the WBA, WBC, WBO etc anymore? It's called 'speculation' when taking an investment position and looking for a long term gain, but when there is no set commodity marketplace and when its being done to dilute and steal from the efforts of a visionary organization, its called 'pathetic' and I applaud Imbiclie's enlightening comments above, where he even points out even this forum's active involvement in these shenanigans. Dana and the UFC are no saints, they are flawed but they are shrewd and ruthless business men and they have moved a fledgling company into a massive and potentially worldwide megasport on par with anything currently out there in in a record short period of time. HexRei, what you want will happen, but it took 30-50+ years in any previously comparable sports model, do you really think it won't eventually happen here and much sooner than ever before....relax dude and enjoy the next few PPV's. ONE BELT! ONE WORLD CHAMP! If we want that, then yes, there will be bumps in the road and we can call them out on those, but consider the alternative, because most people here don't ever look at the past for such clear and obvious lessons. Cheers Mates (by the way Robert, nice facts supporting your truly hilarious conclusions. What's on RAW tonight buddy?) Matthew, Pride failed and/or was bought up, that depends on how you look at it… economics dictate in this type of model that there will be one major player. The other leagues, if they are smart or want to stay afloat, will serve as feeder leagues for various levels of talent. Where have I said there should be only one league?… I have said there should be only ONE BELT!

WAMMA are parasites, pure and simple… putting on a face of goodwill and yet promoting just the opposite. If WAMMA truly had MMA at heart they would be wagering a campaign for legalization in all 50 states, for unionization and ensuing benefit programs of the fighters and for public marketing and awareness in the US and worldwide and they should NOT try an live off of another organization’s hard work with bogus belts, titles and rankings. They disgust me, working under false pretenses of supposed ‘do gooders’ and doing nothing but trying to embellish their own pockets. They are smart enough to see the explosion potential of MMA and they are simply trying to position themselves as more powerful players down the road because they want a piece of what Zuffa created. Who would take serious some other organization trying to declare a different NFL champion? Who takes serious the WBA, WBC, WBO etc anymore?

It’s called ‘speculation’ when taking an investment position and looking for a long term gain, but when there is no set commodity marketplace and when its being done to dilute and steal from the efforts of a visionary organization, its called ‘pathetic’ and I applaud Imbiclie’s enlightening comments above, where he even points out even this forum’s active involvement in these shenanigans.

Dana and the UFC are no saints, they are flawed but they are shrewd and ruthless business men and they have moved a fledgling company into a massive and potentially worldwide megasport on par with anything currently out there in in a record short period of time. HexRei, what you want will happen, but it took 30-50+ years in any previously comparable sports model, do you really think it won’t eventually happen here and much sooner than ever before….relax dude and enjoy the next few PPV’s. ONE BELT! ONE WORLD CHAMP! If we want that, then yes, there will be bumps in the road and we can call them out on those, but consider the alternative, because most people here don’t ever look at the past for such clear and obvious lessons.

Cheers Mates

(by the way Robert, nice facts supporting your truly hilarious conclusions. What’s on RAW tonight buddy?)

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]]> By: matthew http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57987 matthew Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:08:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57987 Cathedron - I was more than happy to see a UFC MW champ and a Pride MW champ. I don't see how you can equate that to the mess that is boxing. The UFC monopoly theory is weak at best. 2 major organizations meant we as the fans got to see more quality fights. And the sport was not tarnished. Cathedron – I was more than happy to see a UFC MW champ and a Pride MW champ. I don’t see how you can equate that to the mess that is boxing. The UFC monopoly theory is weak at best.

2 major organizations meant we as the fans got to see more quality fights. And the sport was not tarnished.

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]]> By: Robert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57983 Robert Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:59:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57983 I can only assume the people on the opposite side of Fitch in this argument are on Dana White's payroll or are in someway affiliated with big business. That explains their position otherwise you're just an idiot. I can only assume the people on the opposite side of Fitch in this argument are on Dana White’s payroll or are in someway affiliated with big business. That explains their position otherwise you’re just an idiot.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57980 HexRei Sat, 22 Nov 2008 01:08:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57980 but the NFL has some inherent safeguards like the draft and individual teams to prevent this kind of bullshit. this is just one guy at the top handing down personally biased decisions to fuck with top-level athletes' careers. but the NFL has some inherent safeguards like the draft and individual teams to prevent this kind of bullshit. this is just one guy at the top handing down personally biased decisions to fuck with top-level athletes’ careers.

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]]> By: Cathedron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57976 Cathedron Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:37:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57976 Robert: by using your logic, you must love that the NFL is a monopoly because you aren't spewing hate at them, right? I'm just a realist. I don't see things in black and white. Every sport will eventually either get monopolized or turn into a total mess (like boxing). Either one corrupt group rises to the top or a ton of corrupt groups rip the sport to shreds. It's not fair. It's not right. But it's reality and all the righteous indignation in the world won't change that. Deal with it. For better or worse, it seems that the UFC is going to be that monopoly and I'd rather have that than have a clusterf-ck like boxing. Would I like to see several different MMA promotions co-exist without crushing the sport? Yes. Would I like to bang Jessica Alba? Yes. Yet, reality says "no". Damn reality! Robert: by using your logic, you must love that the NFL is a monopoly because you aren’t spewing hate at them, right? I’m just a realist. I don’t see things in black and white.

Every sport will eventually either get monopolized or turn into a total mess (like boxing). Either one corrupt group rises to the top or a ton of corrupt groups rip the sport to shreds. It’s not fair. It’s not right. But it’s reality and all the righteous indignation in the world won’t change that. Deal with it. For better or worse, it seems that the UFC is going to be that monopoly and I’d rather have that than have a clusterf-ck like boxing.

Would I like to see several different MMA promotions co-exist without crushing the sport? Yes. Would I like to bang Jessica Alba? Yes. Yet, reality says “no”. Damn reality!

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57928 JOe K. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:35:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57928 Dana blamed it on energy drinks and fasting. Dana blamed it on energy drinks and fasting.

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]]> By: Imbecile http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57922 Imbecile Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:52:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57922 @ Robert You won't even visit a site like mmajunkie or yahoo, even for an interview with the head of ATT giving an alternate opinion on this topic, because you think they are biased. Maybe they are. But you will post endlessly on a site owned and run by someone who has been employed by CBS and ProElite, and currently is heavily involved with WAMMA? You see no bias there, I guess? Everyone has their own particular bias going into reporting, but you should be smart enough to read around that and determine the facts. But the only way you will get the whole picture is if you bother to read more than just those you blindly agree with. @ Robert

You won’t even visit a site like mmajunkie or yahoo, even for an interview with the head of ATT giving an alternate opinion on this topic, because you think they are biased. Maybe they are. But you will post endlessly on a site owned and run by someone who has been employed by CBS and ProElite, and currently is heavily involved with WAMMA? You see no bias there, I guess? Everyone has their own particular bias going into reporting, but you should be smart enough to read around that and determine the facts. But the only way you will get the whole picture is if you bother to read more than just those you blindly agree with.

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]]> By: Ft. Dub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57918 Ft. Dub Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:07:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57918 Stevefiji, the problem with your logic for future competition is that all of the major sports in America are leagues of TEAMS not individuals. Therefore, the competition is between the teams as individually run businesses. Therefore there is competition for salaries, etc. which leads to the players having options within the league. Saying you fight for what I pay you or go fight for Affliction is not a fair comparison. If the UFC gains a monopolistic hold on the sport to the degree you are talking then there will be a union. A union would not allow for a fighter to be dropped in this fashion, so maybe that scenario solves the problem. Stevefiji, the problem with your logic for future competition is that all of the major sports in America are leagues of TEAMS not individuals. Therefore, the competition is between the teams as individually run businesses. Therefore there is competition for salaries, etc. which leads to the players having options within the league. Saying you fight for what I pay you or go fight for Affliction is not a fair comparison.

If the UFC gains a monopolistic hold on the sport to the degree you are talking then there will be a union. A union would not allow for a fighter to be dropped in this fashion, so maybe that scenario solves the problem.

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]]> By: king mah mah http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57901 king mah mah Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:55:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57901 @stevefiji- Hey maybe no businesses should ever compete... we should have one gas station, one grocery store, one auto maker, one steel mill, one college, one state. Yeah nice logic there too. @stevefiji- Hey maybe no businesses should ever compete… we should have one gas station, one grocery store, one auto maker, one steel mill, one college, one state. Yeah nice logic there too.

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]]> By: stevefiji http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57892 stevefiji Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:55:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57892 Robert, Dana White has little class.... He swears incessantly, he absolutely does bully people with his tactics but he is amazingly effective and has tremendous instincts. I could care less if he wants to hang out with me, i don't hang out with dudes who drop dozens of FBomb's in every public environment with no respect for man, woman or child in the area. What you wrote is so sad and lacking of any depth... if you wanna challenge my views, I'd enjoy the discourse... if you wanna purport to think for me, then dude, you gotta step up and stop with the little league arguments... "Na, Na!!! The Pitcher Stinks and has Smelly Feet!" Nice logic you applied there, Spock! Robert,
Dana White has little class…. He swears incessantly, he absolutely does bully people with his tactics but he is amazingly effective and has tremendous instincts. I could care less if he wants to hang out with me, i don’t hang out with dudes who drop dozens of FBomb’s in every public environment with no respect for man, woman or child in the area. What you wrote is so sad and lacking of any depth… if you wanna challenge my views, I’d enjoy the discourse… if you wanna purport to think for me, then dude, you gotta step up and stop with the little league arguments… “Na, Na!!! The Pitcher Stinks and has Smelly Feet!” Nice logic you applied there, Spock!

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]]> By: Dr.Stoppage http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57891 Dr.Stoppage Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:46:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57891 stevefiji , 'Ho He HUGE’ = pure gold. I agree with your brilliant summary. MMA ,is still a baby,and the UFC is it's older brother. All these recent events (the Fitch stuff) is growing pains. It sounds to me like Fitch got offended because Dana didn't say 'please', and I give Fitch credit for saying 'no thanks',and even more for saying 'yes'. As the sport grows,so does the bullshit. Thank G-d Dana White is my friend. Dana White cares about his fighters by keeping the business AFLOAT. stevefiji ,
‘Ho He HUGE’ = pure gold.
I agree with your brilliant summary.
MMA ,is still a baby,and the UFC is it’s older brother.
All these recent events (the Fitch stuff) is growing pains.
It sounds to me like Fitch got offended because Dana didn’t say ‘please’,
and I give Fitch credit for saying ‘no thanks’,and even more for saying ‘yes’.
As the sport grows,so does the bullshit.

Thank G-d Dana White is my friend.

Dana White cares about his fighters by keeping the business AFLOAT.

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]]> By: SBC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57890 SBC Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:43:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57890 stevefiji - Exactly stevefiji -

Exactly

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]]> By: nate http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57886 nate Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:13:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57886 wow. emotional rollercoaster wow. emotional rollercoaster

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]]> By: Robert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57884 Robert Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:01:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57884 steve fiji did you read all that shit you wrote before you clicked submit.Dana White is not your friend and he never will be I'm sorry to break the news to you but no matter how cool you think he sounds with his tough guy wanna be gangster talk. He does what's good for him and their business not MMA, fans,fighters, or anything else.The big picture is that no matter how much you defend Dana White's bullshit he's not going to come and hang out with you. steve fiji did you read all that shit you wrote before you clicked submit.Dana White is not your friend and he never will be I’m sorry to break the news to you but no matter how cool you think he sounds with his tough guy wanna be gangster talk. He does what’s good for him and their business not MMA, fans,fighters, or anything else.The big picture is that no matter how much you defend Dana White’s bullshit he’s not going to come and hang out with you.

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]]> By: stevefiji http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57881 stevefiji Fri, 21 Nov 2008 07:30:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57881 Boiled Peanuts says, "Dana nut huggers" and Robert your entire argument are so baseless. MMA IS IN START-UP MODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Baseball, Basketball, Hockey, Football, Tennis, etc, etc, all had decades before Unions took over. There is ONE major company opening new doors across the world. There is ONE company aggressively lobbying in the USA. There should be ONE BELT that matters, any fool who wants more than one world champion should not even be allowed to post. We have 100+ years of Boxing's lunacy to learn from and people want all these powerful organizations to compete with Zuffa... are you all really that retarded????? Your arguments about more quality fights, more fighter compensation, more, more, more are so damn flawed. Why don't the other start-ups work? Simple answer... because they can't!!!!!! at least not yet... The money is not there... the UFC was valued at maybe legitimately a 500 million dollar company. Does major indoor soccer have a powerful union? What about arena football? Think people, think!!!!!!! What about any XGame or Surfer tours...Now what is the value of the NFL, MLB , even the major (but declining) boxing promotions? People just do not understand how damn cool it is to have ONE CHAMPION in every weight class... an UNDISPUTED champion except for the ineptly mismanaged Fedor and the millions upon millions he has lost in endorsements with his UFC avoidance. He's doing B movies in Thailand instead of A movies in a Bond flick... He and his management are retarded...they say they are not about the money and then they go for the short dollar. Let him fight Sambo... that shit is as boring as anything fighting i have ever seen. WE HAVE IT! ...right now, we can watch the best fight the best with the exception of Fedor... (forget Barnett, a WIGGA wanna be). We have true world champions with a single belt that matters. we have an ability for the best P4P's to move up and down and fight each other and end the arguments.... and people keep bitchin about fights... WTF? The last UFC was amazing? The next 3 or 4 PPV's will be off the hook... the best fight the best and let the rest hit the minor leagues. In major European soccer leagues the worst team(s) get relegated and the best from the lesser leagues move on up... and so it is with the UFC...HOW FRIGGIN HARD IS THIS TO UNDERSTAND??????? Unions will come, better compensation will come... and so will HIGHER PRICES AND MORE EXPENSIVE SEATS>>>> be very careful what you 'revisionist thinking mushheads' will wish for because someday you just might get it.... 5 world middle weight champs, 30 divisions, corruption up the ass.... you have no clue how good you really have it as fans and you bitch and moan and blame Dana, the one dude with balls to do it right and keep it legit. He makes hard decisions, curses too much, but the guy is off the charts instinctually sound. Babe Ruth to Ted Williams to even Pete Rose did they play for the money? They made a half of percent of ARod combined... What about YA Tittle to DIck Butkus to Roger Staubach, a NFL #1draft pick makes more before ever playing a NFL game. Look at Tony Hawk… he makes a fortune but what about #100 on the Xgame circuit? What is his pay versus endorsements? Who will have a higher 'Q Factor' in a few years... #100 on the the XGames or #100 in the UFC...care to bet with me on this????? One does not have to be a 'Dana nuthugger' to understand history, economics, financial statements and the litany of mistakes Boxing has shown us. T-Shirt guys who are vultures will spew great sounding rhetoric about being ‘for the fighters’ and ‘for the game’... The USS Affliction became a mortally weakened sinking ship when they got greedy and were kicked out by the UFC and they took a shot... maybe their only shot to survive with silly ass skull and crossbone fad-based attire. They overpay a few fighters but their business model is failing. They already canceled their 2nd event for POOR TICKET SALES! WAMMA are Vultures.... Parasites... pathetic miscreants that think they can earn dollars trying to make a new set of belts???????? Are you Eff'in serious? Why? Because Fedor has bad management and you saw an exposed limb to gnaw on? M-1 issues a silly press release and they think Dana was doing anything but laughing? And that helps their negotiations after Affliction sinks????? Once T-Shirt guy takes his final bath, the Fedor can fight 'Ho He HUGE' for another freakshow in Asia. He is damn sure not getting into the UFC unless he plays ball. Name one dude who went up against Dana who Dana could not be wearing a HE’s my BITCH NOW T-shirt if he so wished? Big John is doing well now eh? He’s backtracking on all his refereeing is in my past stuff…. The UFC is flawed, it certainly is not perfect… but its light years ahead of where any other major sport is at the same time in its growth stage. Anyone who rocks the boat on this friggin amazing ride we are having should be put to task and put out to pasture… I am not saying, let’s not improve things… I am saying, wake the hell up and understand what we have before taking a scornful side against the UFC, because it only shows how little you comprehend about the big picture. Cheers mates Boiled Peanuts says, “Dana nut huggers” and Robert your entire argument are so baseless. MMA IS IN START-UP MODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Baseball, Basketball, Hockey, Football, Tennis, etc, etc, all had decades before Unions took over. There is ONE major company opening new doors across the world. There is ONE company aggressively lobbying in the USA. There should be ONE BELT that matters, any fool who wants more than one world champion should not even be allowed to post. We have 100+ years of Boxing’s lunacy to learn from and people want all these powerful organizations to compete with Zuffa… are you all really that retarded????? Your arguments about more quality fights, more fighter compensation, more, more, more are so damn flawed. Why don’t the other start-ups work? Simple answer… because they can’t!!!!!! at least not yet… The money is not there… the UFC was valued at maybe legitimately a 500 million dollar company. Does major indoor soccer have a powerful union? What about arena football? Think people, think!!!!!!! What about any XGame or Surfer tours…Now what is the value of the NFL, MLB , even the major (but declining) boxing promotions?

People just do not understand how damn cool it is to have ONE CHAMPION in every weight class… an UNDISPUTED champion except for the ineptly mismanaged Fedor and the millions upon millions he has lost in endorsements with his UFC avoidance. He’s doing B movies in Thailand instead of A movies in a Bond flick… He and his management are retarded…they say they are not about the money and then they go for the short dollar. Let him fight Sambo… that shit is as boring as anything fighting i have ever seen.

WE HAVE IT! …right now, we can watch the best fight the best with the exception of Fedor… (forget Barnett, a WIGGA wanna be). We have true world champions with a single belt that matters. we have an ability for the best P4P’s to move up and down and fight each other and end the arguments…. and people keep bitchin about fights… WTF? The last UFC was amazing? The next 3 or 4 PPV’s will be off the hook… the best fight the best and let the rest hit the minor leagues. In major European soccer leagues the worst team(s) get relegated and the best from the lesser leagues move on up… and so it is with the UFC…HOW FRIGGIN HARD IS THIS TO UNDERSTAND???????

Unions will come, better compensation will come… and so will HIGHER PRICES AND MORE EXPENSIVE SEATS>>>> be very careful what you ‘revisionist thinking mushheads’ will wish for because someday you just might get it…. 5 world middle weight champs, 30 divisions, corruption up the ass…. you have no clue how good you really have it as fans and you bitch and moan and blame Dana, the one dude with balls to do it right and keep it legit. He makes hard decisions, curses too much, but the guy is off the charts instinctually sound.

Babe Ruth to Ted Williams to even Pete Rose did they play for the money? They made a half of percent of ARod combined… What about YA Tittle to DIck Butkus to Roger Staubach, a NFL #1draft pick makes more before ever playing a NFL game. Look at Tony Hawk… he makes a fortune but what about #100 on the Xgame circuit? What is his pay versus endorsements? Who will have a higher ‘Q Factor’ in a few years… #100 on the the XGames or #100 in the UFC…care to bet with me on this?????

One does not have to be a ‘Dana nuthugger’ to understand history, economics, financial statements and the litany of mistakes Boxing has shown us. T-Shirt guys who are vultures will spew great sounding rhetoric about being ‘for the fighters’ and ‘for the game’… The USS Affliction became a mortally weakened sinking ship when they got greedy and were kicked out by the UFC and they took a shot… maybe their only shot to survive with silly ass skull and crossbone fad-based attire. They overpay a few fighters but their business model is failing. They already canceled their 2nd event for POOR TICKET SALES! WAMMA are Vultures…. Parasites… pathetic miscreants that think they can earn dollars trying to make a new set of belts???????? Are you Eff’in serious? Why? Because Fedor has bad management and you saw an exposed limb to gnaw on? M-1 issues a silly press release and they think Dana was doing anything but laughing? And that helps their negotiations after Affliction sinks????? Once T-Shirt guy takes his final bath, the Fedor can fight ‘Ho He HUGE’ for another freakshow in Asia. He is damn sure not getting into the UFC unless he plays ball. Name one dude who went up against Dana who Dana could not be wearing a HE’s my BITCH NOW T-shirt if he so wished? Big John is doing well now eh? He’s backtracking on all his refereeing is in my past stuff…. The UFC is flawed, it certainly is not perfect… but its light years ahead of where any other major sport is at the same time in its growth stage. Anyone who rocks the boat on this friggin amazing ride we are having should be put to task and put out to pasture… I am not saying, let’s not improve things… I am saying, wake the hell up and understand what we have before taking a scornful side against the UFC, because it only shows how little you comprehend about the big picture.

Cheers mates

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]]> By: Robert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57879 Robert Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:56:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57879 EJ you sound happy Fitch was strong armed by people in power. Are you a piece of shit business man or are you a fool that thinks Dana White is your friend? EJ you sound happy Fitch was strong armed by people in power. Are you a piece of shit business man or are you a fool that thinks Dana White is your friend?

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]]> By: EJ http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57874 EJ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:58:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57874 If Fitch really cared about his principles he wouldn't have signed the deal but he did, why? because he realised that he has no other choice. Dana simply drew the line in the sand and sent a message to every fighter and training camp that if you think you are bigger than the UFC f*ck you. Lorenzo then did what he does best he plays the good cop and Fitch ends up doing exactly what he didn't want to do and gets made and example of to all other fighters win win for Zuffa. If Fitch really cared about his principles he wouldn’t have signed the deal but he did, why? because he realised that he has no other choice. Dana simply drew the line in the sand and sent a message to every fighter and training camp that if you think you are bigger than the UFC f*ck you. Lorenzo then did what he does best he plays the good cop and Fitch ends up doing exactly what he didn’t want to do and gets made and example of to all other fighters win win for Zuffa.

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]]> By: BoiledPeanuts http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57863 BoiledPeanuts Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:36:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57863 You gotta remember there are Dana-nut-huggers that read this board. There are always people who go against common sense. That is their agenda. Their dream is that White would treat them with respect. When the shoe is on the other foot the nutt-huggers would be screaming loudest about unfair treatment. Alternatives exist out there for fighters who feel coerced by the UFC. Because of principled people like Fitch who can see long term instead of the myopic views that some have there is a chance for the middle and low tier fighters to get a better shake. For White to use Fitch's payday as an example of how well they treat fighters is an exaggeration of the truth. That would apply if he got that kind of money regularly but these guys don't. Anyone who would stand up for a big corporation or company before the individual obviously is not a fair minded person. Nuff said. The NFL, NBA, NHL, all have unions and BOTH sides profit. I see the UFC shooting themselves in the foot so many times that they will end up having a fighters union foisted upon them. You gotta remember there are Dana-nut-huggers that read this board. There are always people who go against common sense. That is their agenda. Their dream is that White would treat them with respect. When the shoe is on the other foot the nutt-huggers would be screaming loudest about unfair treatment.

Alternatives exist out there for fighters who feel coerced by the UFC. Because of principled people like Fitch who can see long term instead of the myopic views that some have there is a chance for the middle and low tier fighters to get a better shake.

For White to use Fitch’s payday as an example of how well they treat fighters is an exaggeration of the truth. That would apply if he got that kind of money regularly but these guys don’t.

Anyone who would stand up for a big corporation or company before the individual obviously is not a fair minded person. Nuff said. The NFL, NBA, NHL, all have unions and BOTH sides profit. I see the UFC shooting themselves in the foot so many times that they will end up having a fighters union foisted upon them.

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]]> By: Robert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/20/jon-fitch-back-in-the-ufc/comment-page-1/#comment-57861 Robert Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:22:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9156#comment-57861 So Cathedron you think the if UFC establishes a monopoly it's a good thing? You must be joking,also one thing you fail to mention about a little difference between the fighters in the UFC and the players in the NFL,MLB,and the NBA is that their all represented by a players union. So Cathedron you think the if UFC establishes a monopoly it’s a good thing? You must be joking,also one thing you fail to mention about a little difference between the fighters in the UFC and the players in the NFL,MLB,and the NBA is that their all represented by a players union.

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