Comments on: Many lessons to be learned from the Jon Fitch crisis http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/21/many-lessons-to-be-learned-from-the-jon-fitch-crisis/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:06:32 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: MMA SKOOL™ http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/21/many-lessons-to-be-learned-from-the-jon-fitch-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-58203 MMA SKOOL™ Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:46:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9164#comment-58203 Good article Sam. But the title or headline of the article should be "Fitch Reinstated. Lessons Learned." Or something like that. The way its currently titled, you almost have to already know he was brought back. This is about the only MMA site I have time to read, and with the new format I like to skim over the front page at all the stories. (Also, I'm only stopping by about every other day.) Just like CNN.com, SI.com, or another magazine/news site, titles of stories are important. Thanks! Good article Sam.

But the title or headline of the article should be “Fitch Reinstated. Lessons Learned.” Or something like that. The way its currently titled, you almost have to already know he was brought back.

This is about the only MMA site I have time to read, and with the new format I like to skim over the front page at all the stories. (Also, I’m only stopping by about every other day.) Just like CNN.com, SI.com, or another magazine/news site, titles of stories are important.

Thanks!

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/21/many-lessons-to-be-learned-from-the-jon-fitch-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-58161 mike wolfe Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:36:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9164#comment-58161 Your're right, Lyle. The UFC stinks, everybody who likes it stinks, and everybody who ever disagreed with you stinks. Now go back to porn sites or something. Your’re right, Lyle. The UFC stinks, everybody who likes it stinks, and everybody who ever disagreed with you stinks. Now go back to porn sites or something.

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]]> By: Lyle Howard Seave http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/21/many-lessons-to-be-learned-from-the-jon-fitch-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-58134 Lyle Howard Seave Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:48:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9164#comment-58134 >and my faith in the sport is restored. Excellent article except for this part above. Why was it restored? Nothing has changed. Most of the MMA sites had no guts and called it business as usual at least you called it like it is. I just dont see why your faith is restored. Everything is in place for this to replay itself over and over again. Everyone one of these events reminds us that Fedor is not wrong for not signing with the UFC anything past one fight. Why should he? He fought the best of his period (except Barnett), he is rich and can still make a few bucks, he has lots of leverage, he is revered in his home and loved in Asia. Why would he give away all the leverage he has? For the glory of having a UFC belt even though its HW division is pathetic and the only fighter worth a damn is Nog (when did he last fight? Last year?) The Ali Act should apply to MMA as well, let's hope someone is taking this all down. There is no reason why it shouldnt be forced to use rules which were in place to protect athletes. Blaming Fitch isnt fair because he isnt an international name, therefore he can only fight in the US. He has no choice. As for the nauseating nuthuggers, youre like the douchebags who wear your 40$ Nike hats. You are label seekers. It makes you feel better to wear, eat, listen or own something taht is popular. The UFC is popular, therefore youre McDonalds dayjob is forgottena adn you fell validation. Im sure you go to casinos and trash talk the losers: "Yeah bitch, dealer oooooowns your ass, suckah. The house rulez!!!" >and my faith in the sport is restored.

Excellent article except for this part above.

Why was it restored? Nothing has changed.
Most of the MMA sites had no guts and called it business as usual at least you called it like it is. I just dont see why your faith is restored. Everything is in place for this to replay itself over and over again.

Everyone one of these events reminds us that Fedor is not wrong for not signing with the UFC anything past one fight. Why should he? He fought the best of his period (except Barnett), he is rich and can still make a few bucks, he has lots of leverage, he is revered in his home and loved in Asia.
Why would he give away all the leverage he has? For the glory of having a UFC belt even though its HW division is pathetic and the only fighter worth a damn is Nog (when did he last fight? Last year?)

The Ali Act should apply to MMA as well, let’s hope someone is taking this all down.
There is no reason why it shouldnt be forced to use rules which were in place to protect athletes.

Blaming Fitch isnt fair because he isnt an international name, therefore he can only fight in the US. He has no choice.

As for the nauseating nuthuggers, youre like the douchebags who wear your 40$ Nike hats. You are label seekers. It makes you feel better to wear, eat, listen or own something taht is popular. The UFC is popular, therefore youre McDonalds dayjob is forgottena adn you fell validation.
Im sure you go to casinos and trash talk the losers: “Yeah bitch, dealer oooooowns your ass, suckah. The house rulez!!!”

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]]> By: DamonO http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/21/many-lessons-to-be-learned-from-the-jon-fitch-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-58088 DamonO Sun, 23 Nov 2008 07:38:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9164#comment-58088 Also, Dana White has a lot more to do than peruse open forums. Do you honestly think that he would come on here and look for posts that are against him? He doesn't need to explain himself about all of his antics. He's a businessman and that is what he does. He's successful for a reason and a huge asset to not only the UFC but MMA all around the world. Also, Dana White has a lot more to do than peruse open forums. Do you honestly think that he would come on here and look for posts that are against him? He doesn’t need to explain himself about all of his antics. He’s a businessman and that is what he does. He’s successful for a reason and a huge asset to not only the UFC but MMA all around the world.

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]]> By: DamonO http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/21/many-lessons-to-be-learned-from-the-jon-fitch-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-58087 DamonO Sun, 23 Nov 2008 07:27:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9164#comment-58087 Sorry, a little off topic and more of a reply to another's comments. Personally, I believe that the whole situation with Couture leaving the UFC and coming back was for marketing purposes. I may be wrong but hear me out. Look how everything worked out. Couture comes back to the UFC in time for a big payout. Yea he signed a three fight contract but all the hype behind him leaving and coming back built an even larger fan base for him and the UFC. Couture is smart and knows where the money is. Even if he retires again without ever fighting Fedor, he will still have a home with the UFC doing something, commentary etc. Not that he needs it as he is a pretty good business man as it is. Besides, why would he want to fight for an organization in Affliction when they honestly won't make the cut. Yea he may make one big paycheck before they go under but that's not worth it when you can fight for the UFC again multiple times. I don't think that the UFC ever did him wrong. I believe that there's a lot more going on behind the MMA scene than any of us know. I have one word for you MARKETING. Sorry, a little off topic and more of a reply to another’s comments.

Personally, I believe that the whole situation with Couture leaving the UFC and coming back was for marketing purposes. I may be wrong but hear me out. Look how everything worked out. Couture comes back to the UFC in time for a big payout. Yea he signed a three fight contract but all the hype behind him leaving and coming back built an even larger fan base for him and the UFC. Couture is smart and knows where the money is. Even if he retires again without ever fighting Fedor, he will still have a home with the UFC doing something, commentary etc. Not that he needs it as he is a pretty good business man as it is. Besides, why would he want to fight for an organization in Affliction when they honestly won’t make the cut. Yea he may make one big paycheck before they go under but that’s not worth it when you can fight for the UFC again multiple times. I don’t think that the UFC ever did him wrong. I believe that there’s a lot more going on behind the MMA scene than any of us know. I have one word for you MARKETING.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/21/many-lessons-to-be-learned-from-the-jon-fitch-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-58086 mike wolfe Sun, 23 Nov 2008 07:21:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9164#comment-58086 Sam: The situtation involving UFC and Couture was different in the sense that it was much more significant. Couture is one of the most beloved fighters of all time, a repeat champion, and the current heavyweight champion when he tried to leave. Like Fitch, he felt he wasn't being treated fairly under his contracts and went public. Unlike the situation with Fitch, Couture didn't resolve his dispute for a year, and there were some criticisms back and forth and a lot of bad pr for White and UFC. Despite that, UFC and MMA continued to flourish. The situation with Fitch wasn't even close to that level of significance. Even if Fitch hadn't signed a contract, the sport would have been fine. Sam:

The situtation involving UFC and Couture was different in the sense that it was much more significant. Couture is one of the most beloved fighters of all time, a repeat champion, and the current heavyweight champion when he tried to leave. Like Fitch, he felt he wasn’t being treated fairly under his contracts and went public. Unlike the situation with Fitch, Couture didn’t resolve his dispute for a year, and there were some criticisms back and forth and a lot of bad pr for White and UFC. Despite that, UFC and MMA continued to flourish. The situation with Fitch wasn’t even close to that level of significance. Even if Fitch hadn’t signed a contract, the sport would have been fine.

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]]> By: RJA http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/21/many-lessons-to-be-learned-from-the-jon-fitch-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-58018 RJA Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:51:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9164#comment-58018 No sht you might be right king.....but how do you explain the eh?Just trying to through us off i bet. No sht you might be right king…..but how do you explain the eh?Just trying to through us off i bet.

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]]> By: king mah mah http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/21/many-lessons-to-be-learned-from-the-jon-fitch-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-58017 king mah mah Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:46:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9164#comment-58017 P.S. great article Sam. P.S. great article Sam.

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]]> By: king mah mah http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/21/many-lessons-to-be-learned-from-the-jon-fitch-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-58015 king mah mah Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:45:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9164#comment-58015 I think stevefiji is Dana Whites screen name. I think stevefiji is Dana Whites screen name.

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]]> By: RJA http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/21/many-lessons-to-be-learned-from-the-jon-fitch-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-58014 RJA Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:15:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9164#comment-58014 steve it was your p.s statement that i thought was a little uncalled for.i'ts one thing putting in your 2 cents,but your comments were very argumentitive.And i gather from what you say thats what you enjoy doing,and thats fine.But can you please shorten your arguments.Just make them short and sweet,i get board easily. p.s you must be canadian eh? steve it was your p.s statement that i thought was a little uncalled for.i’ts one thing putting in your 2 cents,but your comments were very argumentitive.And i gather from what you say thats what you enjoy doing,and thats fine.But can you please shorten your arguments.Just make them short and sweet,i get board easily.

p.s you must be canadian eh?

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