Comments on: 5 Oz. of Pain on CBSSports.com: Criticism of Brock Lesnar defies logic http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 18:11:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Perfecto http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-60603 Perfecto Thu, 18 Dec 2008 04:37:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-60603 Ok "ttttt" to say randy the man who dethroned Silvia who had the title for years is not a true heavywieght is ignorant. Brock got the fight because he is good not because he has a pretty record or he is advertised well he is just good. Anyone who has watched MMA should see he is good. If you think Brock should have fought more people first my question is who? Who do you want him to fight the Randy hasnt or couldnt beat. Randy was the best match up. And by the way this isnt English class. Ok “ttttt” to say randy the man who dethroned Silvia who had the title for years is not a true heavywieght is ignorant. Brock got the fight because he is good not because he has a pretty record or he is advertised well he is just good. Anyone who has watched MMA should see he is good. If you think Brock should have fought more people first my question is who? Who do you want him to fight the Randy hasnt or couldnt beat. Randy was the best match up.
And by the way this isnt English class.

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]]> By: Robert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58520 Robert Thu, 27 Nov 2008 22:54:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58520 The fight was between 2 heavyweights.What do you want to split the heavyweight division now because Randy lost? I've heard other people bring this up and all it is are a bunch of disgruntled fans who are upset because their hero lost in his return to the UFC. Nothing has to be done with the heavyweight division if a cruiserweight division was created like boxing it would do more harm than good there is already a lack of quality heavyweights.I remember when there were only 2 weight classes over 200 was heavyweight and under 200 lbs. was considered lightweight that's it. The fight was between 2 heavyweights.What do you want to split the heavyweight division now because Randy lost? I’ve heard other people bring this up and all it is are a bunch of disgruntled fans who are upset because their hero lost in his return to the UFC. Nothing has to be done with the heavyweight division if a cruiserweight division was created like boxing it would do more harm than good there is already a lack of quality heavyweights.I remember when there were only 2 weight classes over 200 was heavyweight and under 200 lbs. was considered lightweight that’s it.

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]]> By: Eggbert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58518 Eggbert Thu, 27 Nov 2008 21:58:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58518 Here are the facts. This fight was between two mma warriors of a different weight class. If you pit two guys against each other and one weighs in at 265-285 and is in superb shape and the other weighs in at 215-220 and is in superb shape.....helllo......doesn't take much to figure out that they belong in different weight classes...that is if you want a fair fight to occur. Look, nobody is more old school than I am, and I also am a great fan of inter-weight matches but let's just call the match what it is, a fight between two fighters from different weight classes. Here are the facts. This fight was between two mma warriors of a different weight class. If you pit two guys against each other and one weighs in at 265-285 and is in superb shape and the other weighs in at 215-220 and is in superb shape…..helllo……doesn’t take much to figure out that they belong in different weight classes…that is if you want a fair fight to occur. Look, nobody is more old school than I am, and I also am a great fan of inter-weight matches but let’s just call the match what it is, a fight between two fighters from different weight classes.

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]]> By: Richie http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58402 Richie Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:38:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58402 "Anyways i still hate Brock . When he proves himself against a true heavyweight i may like him but until then he sucks." Please tell this moron to shut up!.. RANDY COUTURE is THE TRUE heavyweight of the sport and Lesnar won by TKO. I would think that means Lesnar is a legit heavyweight. He is not the best but will soon be. Any body with that size, power, skills in wrestling, and can move faster then the majority of heavyweights deserve a shot at the title. He proved that he deserved a title shot and guess what? yea thats right.. he won and no holds the belt. And FYI.. Lesnar was 2-1 before the fight againist Randy and now is 3-1. Get your facts straight before you speak. “Anyways i still hate Brock . When he proves himself against a true heavyweight i may like him but until then he sucks.”

Please tell this moron to shut up!.. RANDY COUTURE is THE TRUE heavyweight of the sport and Lesnar won by TKO. I would think that means Lesnar is a legit heavyweight. He is not the best but will soon be. Any body with that size, power, skills in wrestling, and can move faster then the majority of heavyweights deserve a shot at the title. He proved that he deserved a title shot and guess what? yea thats right.. he won and no holds the belt.

And FYI.. Lesnar was 2-1 before the fight againist Randy and now is 3-1. Get your facts straight before you speak.

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]]> By: PoMoPunchDrunk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58210 PoMoPunchDrunk Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:18:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58210 Everybody is annoyed because they saw this coming. Me, much like most MMA fans LOVE Randy Couture. Even though we didn't want to listen to that part of our brain telling us that Lesnar would win, it was there all along. Couture is a hall of famer, but what nobody is really talking about is how a man of his age, who has been knocked out countless times, would be able to absorb punches like that. Much like you see in football, where your favourite player has had concussion problems, it takes less and less of a hit, to render them unconscious. This isn't anyone's fault, but there was no way Couture could handle those hits. Does everyone forget his fights with Liddel? One of those knockouts was a half right from Liddel. Brock was given this match-up by the UFC, won it, and deserves to be champion. That said, I do not think he could have one that fight against someone not as prone to a knockout. We'll see what happens when the rest of the Heavyweight division gets a crack at him, but for now, let the man enjoy the fruits of his hardwork. Nobody gets mad at Peyton Manning when the NFL puts him against the Oakland Raiders and he torches them for 5 TD's. Congratulations Brock, you beat a legend, now define your own legacy by continuing to improve and shutting us all up. Everybody is annoyed because they saw this coming. Me, much like most MMA fans LOVE Randy Couture. Even though we didn’t want to listen to that part of our brain telling us that Lesnar would win, it was there all along. Couture is a hall of famer, but what nobody is really talking about is how a man of his age, who has been knocked out countless times, would be able to absorb punches like that. Much like you see in football, where your favourite player has had concussion problems, it takes less and less of a hit, to render them unconscious. This isn’t anyone’s fault, but there was no way Couture could handle those hits. Does everyone forget his fights with Liddel? One of those knockouts was a half right from Liddel. Brock was given this match-up by the UFC, won it, and deserves to be champion. That said, I do not think he could have one that fight against someone not as prone to a knockout. We’ll see what happens when the rest of the Heavyweight division gets a crack at him, but for now, let the man enjoy the fruits of his hardwork. Nobody gets mad at Peyton Manning when the NFL puts him against the Oakland Raiders and he torches them for 5 TD’s. Congratulations Brock, you beat a legend, now define your own legacy by continuing to improve and shutting us all up.

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]]> By: ACK! http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58206 ACK! Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:58:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58206 @Big Dave: Have you ever met Lesnar? You call him as dumb as a fence post, so I'm assuming you have some insider information to back that up... Actually, I have met Lesnar and he's as nice of a guy as you're likely to meet. Saying his attitude sucks is simply untrue... He's like a big jolly teddy bear from what I've seen. Seriously, he's constantly grinning, cracking jokes, laughing... The only evidence to the contrary is that he was a heel in the WWE and that he knows how to get under guy's skins. Also, you're selling his intelligence short. He's actually a smart guy who works very hard and believes in what he does. Give him a break. @Big Dave: Have you ever met Lesnar? You call him as dumb as a fence post, so I’m assuming you have some insider information to back that up…

Actually, I have met Lesnar and he’s as nice of a guy as you’re likely to meet. Saying his attitude sucks is simply untrue… He’s like a big jolly teddy bear from what I’ve seen. Seriously, he’s constantly grinning, cracking jokes, laughing… The only evidence to the contrary is that he was a heel in the WWE and that he knows how to get under guy’s skins. Also, you’re selling his intelligence short. He’s actually a smart guy who works very hard and believes in what he does. Give him a break.

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]]> By: Imbecile http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58201 Imbecile Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:03:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58201 Great job, Sam! Dead on with this piece. People need to realize Lesnar is a talented athlete who is working very hard to be a complete mixed martial artist. I personally would have him as a slight favorite over nearly any fighter in the world today, and that includes Fedor and Nog. Most would disagree, but I think the physical tools Lesnar brings are tremendous. He is dangerous to any and all opponents, and for that reason alone, we should respect him in this sport. Great job, Sam! Dead on with this piece.

People need to realize Lesnar is a talented athlete who is working very hard to be a complete mixed martial artist. I personally would have him as a slight favorite over nearly any fighter in the world today, and that includes Fedor and Nog. Most would disagree, but I think the physical tools Lesnar brings are tremendous. He is dangerous to any and all opponents, and for that reason alone, we should respect him in this sport.

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]]> By: Big Dave http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58195 Big Dave Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:13:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58195 Ok people lets all just take a breath and look at this from a logical perspective. You are all getting mad that Lesnar got a title shot with little experience, well i dont believe that to be true. Couture was a paper champ at this point, he was out for 15 months and the title should have been fully stripped from him. Nog won the interm title and in my opinion is the true hw champ atm. Randy is no longer a top 5 heavy, he needs to go back to 205 or reitire altogether. as for lesnar i think his next fight needs to be against either gonzaga or mir( who btw is gonna lose very easily to nog) then if he can win that fight he can get his first REAL title shot against Nog who yes is the real hw champ until someone beats him. Unfortunatly Couture is now living as champ by his name alone but in reality his time is gone. With all that being said im in no way a fan of Lesnar, his attitude sucks and he is dumb as a fence post but hell he is a fighter and a scary one at that. i cant argue his ability i mean the guy went 106-5 as a college wrestler which is insane and he ha done nothing but look better in each fight he has been in. he dominated Mir till he got caught in the heelhook. He beat Herring like he owed him money, and he effectively ended randys hw career by absolutely knocking him the fuck out. So there are the facts as i see then agree or disagree. As for bimbo Slice well he can go back to beating up crackheads in his ghetto backyard and let real men fight. Bas Rutten you sullied you reputation by ever aligning yourself with that useless waste of skin. Fight Sean gaggnon again and get you ass kicked by him for a second time. Ok people lets all just take a breath and look at this from a logical perspective.
You are all getting mad that Lesnar got a title shot with little experience, well i dont believe that to be true. Couture was a paper champ at this point, he was out for 15 months and the title should have been fully stripped from him. Nog won the interm title and in my opinion is the true hw champ atm. Randy is no longer a top 5 heavy, he needs to go back to 205 or reitire altogether. as for lesnar i think his next fight needs to be against either gonzaga or mir( who btw is gonna lose very easily to nog) then if he can win that fight he can get his first REAL title shot against Nog who yes is the real hw champ until someone beats him. Unfortunatly Couture is now living as champ by his name alone but in reality his time is gone.

With all that being said im in no way a fan of Lesnar, his attitude sucks and he is dumb as a fence post but hell he is a fighter and a scary one at that. i cant argue his ability i mean the guy went 106-5 as a college wrestler which is insane and he ha done nothing but look better in each fight he has been in. he dominated Mir till he got caught in the heelhook. He beat Herring like he owed him money, and he effectively ended randys hw career by absolutely knocking him the fuck out.

So there are the facts as i see then agree or disagree. As for bimbo Slice well he can go back to beating up crackheads in his ghetto backyard and let real men fight. Bas Rutten you sullied you reputation by ever aligning yourself with that useless waste of skin. Fight Sean gaggnon again and get you ass kicked by him for a second time.

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]]> By: Juelz http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58186 Juelz Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:32:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58186 UFC is just as much entertainment as WWE is... This is what you get when you don't have legit title contenders and rankings... I don't know about you but i want to see that the champion earned the right to call himself that. Brock Lesnar didn't earn it. If he would have fought more top competition and won and actually established himself as the #1 contender for the title i wouldn't have a problem with it. He was 2-1 with one big win over Herring who wasn't even ranked top 10 at many lists, and he gets a title shot. Everyone knows that he got that titleshot cause of his name and he got his name from what he accomplished in WWE not in MMA. His talent and abilities doesn't matter if this was the case there would be a lot more champions with 3-1 records. In Sport there shouldn't be any fasttracks to a titleshot you will have to earn it. I'm pretty sure he would beat Randy 8/10 times but that has nothing to do with it, He got fasttracked for his name and cause this fight would make alot of money for the UFC. UFC is WWE but for real... It's still entertainment until there will be legit matchups based on your accomplishments in the sport and not about your name recognition. I want to see it as a sport but sometimes UFC pull some of this shit and it just get's turned into a circus. Brock Lesnar is a clown champion in my mind he don't deserve to be champion just yet. He would probably be some day but he shouldn't be right now. And stop comparing him with Kimbo.... Kimbo got alot of shit because he fought bums and yet had alot of hype around him. If Kimbo would have fought for the UFC title with his record i would be just as pissed of . Hype = Titleshot hmm is that logic ? UFC is just as much entertainment as WWE is… This is what you get when you don’t have legit title contenders and rankings… I don’t know about you but i want to see that the champion earned the right to call himself that.
Brock Lesnar didn’t earn it. If he would have fought more top competition and won and actually established himself as the #1 contender for the title i wouldn’t have a problem with it.
He was 2-1 with one big win over Herring who wasn’t even ranked top 10 at many lists, and he gets a title shot. Everyone knows that he got that titleshot cause of his name and he got his name from what he accomplished in WWE not in MMA.

His talent and abilities doesn’t matter if this was the case there would be a lot more champions with 3-1 records. In Sport there shouldn’t be any fasttracks to a titleshot you will have to earn it.
I’m pretty sure he would beat Randy 8/10 times but that has nothing to do with it, He got fasttracked for his name and cause this fight would make alot of money for the UFC.

UFC is WWE but for real… It’s still entertainment until there will be legit matchups based on your accomplishments in the sport and not about your name recognition. I want to see it as a sport but sometimes UFC pull some of this shit and it just get’s turned into a circus.
Brock Lesnar is a clown champion in my mind he don’t deserve to be champion just yet. He would probably be some day but he shouldn’t be right now.
And stop comparing him with Kimbo…. Kimbo got alot of shit because he fought bums and yet had alot of hype around him. If Kimbo would have fought for the UFC title with his record i would be just as pissed of .
Hype = Titleshot hmm is that logic ?

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]]> By: blah http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58165 blah Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:39:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58165 Those same fans also accused the Kimbo/Cantrell fight of being rigged because of Cantrell going down to a "weak" shot behind the ear, but said nothing of Couture going down to an equally "weak" shot from Lesnar. Hypocritical Bastards! All of Them! Lesnar will always be in a lose-lose situation regardless of who he fights. If he loses it's "Ha ha, he lost to someone way smaller than he is. What a bitch." If he wins it's "So what.... he was fighting someone way smaller than he is. What a bitch." If he wasn't so damn rich, I'd kind of feel bad for the guy. Those same fans also accused the Kimbo/Cantrell fight of being rigged because of Cantrell going down to a “weak” shot behind the ear, but said nothing of Couture going down to an equally “weak” shot from Lesnar.

Hypocritical Bastards! All of Them!

Lesnar will always be in a lose-lose situation regardless of who he fights. If he loses it’s “Ha ha, he lost to someone way smaller than he is. What a bitch.” If he wins it’s “So what…. he was fighting someone way smaller than he is. What a bitch.” If he wasn’t so damn rich, I’d kind of feel bad for the guy.

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]]> By: islandguy666 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58162 islandguy666 Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:52:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58162 Look.. Lesnar is HW champ but he has not fought any of the best heavies. People get mad when they feel that there is an injustice.. Admittedly the HW ranks are thin in the UFC. Let him beat Nog.. even Gonzaga. Werdum... wait he's gone. Couture is not a heavyweight fighter... and he's old. The idea that this was some kind of "super fight" was purely a marketing ploy.. Like Oritz - Shamrock.. bullshit. The UFC has got to sign some legitimate HW contenders and if Brock can beat them then everyone will shut up. Look.. Lesnar is HW champ but he has not fought any of the best heavies. People get mad when they feel that there is an injustice.. Admittedly the HW ranks are thin in the UFC. Let him beat Nog.. even Gonzaga. Werdum… wait he’s gone. Couture is not a heavyweight fighter… and he’s old. The idea that this was some kind of “super fight” was purely a marketing ploy.. Like Oritz – Shamrock.. bullshit.

The UFC has got to sign some legitimate HW contenders and if Brock can beat them then everyone will shut up.

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58148 Sergio Hernandez Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:26:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58148 "The UFC has been pimping this old bald fart who was 4-5 during a stretch. 4-5 is below .500 so that made Couture BELOW average." If you look at it objectively... and I love Couture... He was 0-2 in his last two HW fights, going into his Interim LHW title shot against Liddell. Then he was 1-2 in his last three LHW fights going into his HW title shot against Sylvia. I've said it before and others have stated it as well: if Lesnar never stepped into a WWE right, he wouldn't catch almost any flack from you people. “The UFC has been pimping this old bald fart who was 4-5 during a stretch.
4-5 is below .500 so that made Couture BELOW average.”

If you look at it objectively… and I love Couture…

He was 0-2 in his last two HW fights, going into his Interim LHW title shot against Liddell. Then he was 1-2 in his last three LHW fights going into his HW title shot against Sylvia.

I’ve said it before and others have stated it as well: if Lesnar never stepped into a WWE right, he wouldn’t catch almost any flack from you people.

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]]> By: Lyle Howard Seave http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58132 Lyle Howard Seave Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:30:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58132 >Ugh. Will everyone PLEASE stop bringing up Werdum? >The dude went 2-2 in his UFC run. I know how you feel. The UFC has been pimping this old bald fart who was 4-5 during a stretch. 4-5 is below .500 so that made Couture BELOW average. As for Cote, what did he start with ? 0-4? And he got a title shot? Wait...I dont know how you feel. Werdum's record was better than the other two Dona White fellaters. Dont be mad that a guy with 20mins ring experience got a title shot, they did it the previous month with Cote. The UFC is not about getting the best fighters together, its about getting the fights they think can generate the best storylines with the fighters who keep their mouths shut and agree to fight for 14,000$ for a main event. That's what the UFC does best. >Ugh. Will everyone PLEASE stop bringing up Werdum?
>The dude went 2-2 in his UFC run.

I know how you feel.
The UFC has been pimping this old bald fart who was 4-5 during a stretch.
4-5 is below .500 so that made Couture BELOW average.

As for Cote, what did he start with ? 0-4? And he got a title shot?

Wait…I dont know how you feel. Werdum’s record was better than the other two Dona White fellaters.

Dont be mad that a guy with 20mins ring experience got a title shot, they did it the previous month with Cote.

The UFC is not about getting the best fighters together, its about getting the fights they think can generate the best storylines with the fighters who keep their mouths shut and agree to fight for 14,000$ for a main event.
That’s what the UFC does best.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58130 HexRei Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:52:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58130 so, how do we make an account to log in? so, how do we make an account to log in?

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]]> By: MMAFANATIK http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58116 MMAFANATIK Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:19:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58116 Everyone is saying that brock lesner did not diserve to fight Rany Coutour.but yet he won the fight in 2 rounds.shouldnt he get respect for doing that. he is good for the industry he gets main stream media to talk about the sport and more people buy the ppv.and the people that always are talking all there smack is these die hard pride fans.get over it pride is dead Everyone is saying that brock lesner did not diserve to fight Rany Coutour.but yet he won the fight in 2 rounds.shouldnt he get respect for doing that. he is good for the industry he gets main stream media to talk about the sport and more people buy the ppv.and the people that always are talking all there smack is these die hard pride fans.get over it pride is dead

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]]> By: dpk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58096 dpk Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:59:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58096 The great thing about MMA is that hype gets smashed all the time, and these guys have to prove themselves or they are exposed. Especially in UFC you always see the best fighters in a division fighting each other. Personally if I'd been Joe Silva and Dana White I would have given Werdum the shot at 91 against Randy, and put Lesnar in with someone like Kongo. Then when I had the mini tourney final, I would have put Lesnar against either Gonzaga or the Mir/Nog loser and positioned him for a title shot after that, because if he could have won those fights there would have been no questions about his ability. Honestly I've been on the Lesnar band wagon since I heard he was going to fight in MMA, and I love that he is the Champ right now, I think he is going to be great for the sport in the long run. The great thing about MMA is that hype gets smashed all the time, and these guys have to prove themselves or they are exposed. Especially in UFC you always see the best fighters in a division fighting each other. Personally if I’d been Joe Silva and Dana White I would have given Werdum the shot at 91 against Randy, and put Lesnar in with someone like Kongo. Then when I had the mini tourney final, I would have put Lesnar against either Gonzaga or the Mir/Nog loser and positioned him for a title shot after that, because if he could have won those fights there would have been no questions about his ability.

Honestly I’ve been on the Lesnar band wagon since I heard he was going to fight in MMA, and I love that he is the Champ right now, I think he is going to be great for the sport in the long run.

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]]> By: Danny Boy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58093 Danny Boy Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:02:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58093 how can you say brock hasnt fought legitimate comp? the undertaker is dangerous, and so is bill goldberg. they could both hold thier own with fedor or couture. how can you say brock hasnt fought legitimate comp? the undertaker is dangerous, and so is bill goldberg. they could both hold thier own with fedor or couture.

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]]> By: DamonO http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58085 DamonO Sun, 23 Nov 2008 07:09:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58085 I would like to see Lesnar fight Gonzaga. I would't be surprised if that was what it comes down to sooner or later. I would like to see Lesnar fight Gonzaga. I would’t be surprised if that was what it comes down to sooner or later.

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]]> By: blake http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58084 blake Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:45:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58084 As an ex-wrestler and avid fan of wrestling (the real stuff), I always pull for wrestlers in MMA, and think it's great that Lesnar is the champ. I wonder how his bjj is coming along...scary thought, that. As an ex-wrestler and avid fan of wrestling (the real stuff), I always pull for wrestlers in MMA, and think it’s great that Lesnar is the champ. I wonder how his bjj is coming along…scary thought, that.

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]]> By: Anon http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/5-oz-of-pain-on-cbssportscom-criticism-of-brock-lesnar-defies-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-58083 Anon Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:39:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9201#comment-58083 Hey you know what? If you don't like Lesnar, LEAVE the MMA scene altogether. The sport is better without people like that. Lesnar is bringing in far more fans than he is making you "old school" (in a sport around for what? 10 years? There is NO OLD SCHOOL) fans snivel and whine, so the sport will grow perfectly well without you. Hey you know what? If you don’t like Lesnar, LEAVE the MMA scene altogether. The sport is better without people like that. Lesnar is bringing in far more fans than he is making you “old school” (in a sport around for what? 10 years? There is NO OLD SCHOOL) fans snivel and whine, so the sport will grow perfectly well without you.

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