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	<title>Comments on: Postcard from the Couch: Reviewing Strikeforce &#8220;Destruction&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Grappo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grappo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 11:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee, are you a producer for HowardTV?  I heard Artie Lange drew &quot;Lee Gerowitz&quot; for the Secret Santa the other day, and 5 oz. instantly came to mind.

It would partially explain the obsession with graphics and all things production ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee, are you a producer for HowardTV?  I heard Artie Lange drew &#8220;Lee Gerowitz&#8221; for the Secret Santa the other day, and 5 oz. instantly came to mind.</p>
<p>It would partially explain the obsession with graphics and all things production <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lee Gerowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Gerowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who is this Sam Caplan? How dare he!

Anibal Alejandro Jaramilla...in defense of those who worked on that show - and I don&#039;t know any of them - is that sometimes in television, the result of a production doesn&#039;t reflect how hard those individuals worked to make that show happen.

Sometimes, talented folks aren&#039;t given the proper tools to execute a show properly, whether it&#039;s because of lack of budget or whatever. Other times, the crew just isn&#039;t good, end of story. 

For the purpose of these columns, I prefer to not know any inside information about budgets, crew, etc. It&#039;s a bottom line thing for me: was the show good or not from a production point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who is this Sam Caplan? How dare he!</p>
<p>Anibal Alejandro Jaramilla&#8230;in defense of those who worked on that show &#8211; and I don&#8217;t know any of them &#8211; is that sometimes in television, the result of a production doesn&#8217;t reflect how hard those individuals worked to make that show happen.</p>
<p>Sometimes, talented folks aren&#8217;t given the proper tools to execute a show properly, whether it&#8217;s because of lack of budget or whatever. Other times, the crew just isn&#8217;t good, end of story. </p>
<p>For the purpose of these columns, I prefer to not know any inside information about budgets, crew, etc. It&#8217;s a bottom line thing for me: was the show good or not from a production point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Anibal Alejandro Jaramilla</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/postcard-from-the-couch-reviewing-strikeforce-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-58246</link>
		<dc:creator>Anibal Alejandro Jaramilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee - You picked an interesting show to critique. I heard thru the MMA grapevine that HD.net had a new producer for that show. Not sure if this is truth or not. I have friends that work for HD.net in their Texas offices. Apparently their old producer is no longer with them. It show you how little they care about HD production as I thought there shows kept getting better and better and better and then they took a grande step backwards last week. Also, as far as budgets go - there budgets are terrible and it does affect everything. More money buys more and better staff and more time to organize and trouble shoot - &quot;practice and preparation&quot; days, etc, which the UFC always has I hear...I hear that the HD.net is cheap - much more cheap than they should be with Cuban&#039;s billions available. Their philosophy is &quot;just get it on the TV&quot; and there is a sense of sloppiness that comes from the top down. Plus dealing with a MMA team like Strikeforce is a factor - there&#039;s a reason why Dana has nice things to say about them - he has no fear of them - another low budget operation. Maybe HD.net and Strike deserve eachother! Adios from Monterrey, Mexico! Viva MMA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee &#8211; You picked an interesting show to critique. I heard thru the MMA grapevine that HD.net had a new producer for that show. Not sure if this is truth or not. I have friends that work for HD.net in their Texas offices. Apparently their old producer is no longer with them. It show you how little they care about HD production as I thought there shows kept getting better and better and better and then they took a grande step backwards last week. Also, as far as budgets go &#8211; there budgets are terrible and it does affect everything. More money buys more and better staff and more time to organize and trouble shoot &#8211; &#8220;practice and preparation&#8221; days, etc, which the UFC always has I hear&#8230;I hear that the HD.net is cheap &#8211; much more cheap than they should be with Cuban&#8217;s billions available. Their philosophy is &#8220;just get it on the TV&#8221; and there is a sense of sloppiness that comes from the top down. Plus dealing with a MMA team like Strikeforce is a factor &#8211; there&#8217;s a reason why Dana has nice things to say about them &#8211; he has no fear of them &#8211; another low budget operation. Maybe HD.net and Strike deserve eachother! Adios from Monterrey, Mexico! Viva MMA!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/postcard-from-the-couch-reviewing-strikeforce-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-58237</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that the CSAC did no drug testing for this event.  Appears it had to do with the new commisioner revamping the drug testing system, which he says will be out next week.  Let&#039;s see how, if any, things change in CA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that the CSAC did no drug testing for this event.  Appears it had to do with the new commisioner revamping the drug testing system, which he says will be out next week.  Let&#8217;s see how, if any, things change in CA.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Caplan</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/postcard-from-the-couch-reviewing-strikeforce-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-58207</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Caplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to add one thing... I definitely do love the new format of Lee&#039;s column but I wanted to state that I couldn&#039;t disagree with him more about Jimmy Lennon Jr. Jimmy Lennon Jr. is the man. It&#039;s as simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to add one thing&#8230; I definitely do love the new format of Lee&#8217;s column but I wanted to state that I couldn&#8217;t disagree with him more about Jimmy Lennon Jr. Jimmy Lennon Jr. is the man. It&#8217;s as simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: Caidel</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/postcard-from-the-couch-reviewing-strikeforce-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-58172</link>
		<dc:creator>Caidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must agree with most of the Lee&#039;s points. This broadcast was definitely one of the worst one&#039;s I&#039;ve seen on HDNet (and I saw most of them...) I don&#039;t know if it is because Strikeforce has a different crew in arena or something, but HDNet can actually make a lot better job on events they are covering completely (like Sportfight events, Ring of Combat events and so...).

For me, fights are the most important thing, but at the same time, good production can make me enjoy it more (which don&#039;t really works other way - if the production really sucks, it doesn&#039;t really destroy the enjoynment for me but it could be better). I agree that things like statistics, interesting facts and storylines are a great asset and made a lot of difference.

I would also like to see have their commentating team either changed or filled with some new staff. As much as I like Bas, he really repeats himself a lot (when you saw a few events, it doesn&#039;t matter that much, but if you saw a lot of them, it is being very obvious. He knows what is he talking about, but at the same time, he is not really good as a comentator, because he fails at communicating his wisdom... It is mostly about cliches, propagating body blows and so. I don&#039;t have a big issue with that, but still, I would prefer to see also other teams in work. Ron Kruck wasn&#039;t that bad when he filled for a Kenny of Bas...

BTW: Quality of the picture... Well, I&#039;m not American and I don&#039;t really have a possibility to view PPV&#039;s or other broadcasts legally, so I download everything from internet :) Bonus is, that I download practically everything, from UFC to smallest shows that make it to the TV. From this POV, HDNet are gods, because everything that is broadcasted sooner or later can be viewed also by me :) At the same time, when I compare rips of normal UFC show and HDNet broadcasts, HDNet broadcast is picture-quality wise several class higher... And I&#039;m talking about ripped video, not real thing. 

Fightwise, it was a average event - quite a lot of fights unfortunately ended on the ground with not too good groungame - no subs whatsoever. Smith-Martin was good (although short), Couture-Kvokov a mismatch and other three bouts were average. I&#039;m not complaining though, this is noone&#039;s fault, things like that just happen.

LEE: I would also like to see your PFTC on some of the smaller HDNet broadcast, for example 5.12. - MFC 19</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must agree with most of the Lee&#8217;s points. This broadcast was definitely one of the worst one&#8217;s I&#8217;ve seen on HDNet (and I saw most of them&#8230;) I don&#8217;t know if it is because Strikeforce has a different crew in arena or something, but HDNet can actually make a lot better job on events they are covering completely (like Sportfight events, Ring of Combat events and so&#8230;).</p>
<p>For me, fights are the most important thing, but at the same time, good production can make me enjoy it more (which don&#8217;t really works other way &#8211; if the production really sucks, it doesn&#8217;t really destroy the enjoynment for me but it could be better). I agree that things like statistics, interesting facts and storylines are a great asset and made a lot of difference.</p>
<p>I would also like to see have their commentating team either changed or filled with some new staff. As much as I like Bas, he really repeats himself a lot (when you saw a few events, it doesn&#8217;t matter that much, but if you saw a lot of them, it is being very obvious. He knows what is he talking about, but at the same time, he is not really good as a comentator, because he fails at communicating his wisdom&#8230; It is mostly about cliches, propagating body blows and so. I don&#8217;t have a big issue with that, but still, I would prefer to see also other teams in work. Ron Kruck wasn&#8217;t that bad when he filled for a Kenny of Bas&#8230;</p>
<p>BTW: Quality of the picture&#8230; Well, I&#8217;m not American and I don&#8217;t really have a possibility to view PPV&#8217;s or other broadcasts legally, so I download everything from internet <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Bonus is, that I download practically everything, from UFC to smallest shows that make it to the TV. From this POV, HDNet are gods, because everything that is broadcasted sooner or later can be viewed also by me <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  At the same time, when I compare rips of normal UFC show and HDNet broadcasts, HDNet broadcast is picture-quality wise several class higher&#8230; And I&#8217;m talking about ripped video, not real thing. </p>
<p>Fightwise, it was a average event &#8211; quite a lot of fights unfortunately ended on the ground with not too good groungame &#8211; no subs whatsoever. Smith-Martin was good (although short), Couture-Kvokov a mismatch and other three bouts were average. I&#8217;m not complaining though, this is noone&#8217;s fault, things like that just happen.</p>
<p>LEE: I would also like to see your PFTC on some of the smaller HDNet broadcast, for example 5.12. &#8211; MFC 19</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Gerowitz</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/postcard-from-the-couch-reviewing-strikeforce-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-58150</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Gerowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 00:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting to hear how some people don&#039;t care about the production quality of the event, while others do.

Some who are commenting are conveniently forgetting the point of this particular column, which is to focus on the PRODUCTION VALUE of these televised events...not the fights themselves. There are other articles on this very site that give that angle. While I have given my opinion on a card&#039;s fights before, it is not the focus of this column.

Plus, it&#039;s the fighters who execute the fights, not the people producing the card for TV. Those producing the telecast are responsible for everything but the outcome of the fights. Thanks for the comments, positive or negative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to hear how some people don&#8217;t care about the production quality of the event, while others do.</p>
<p>Some who are commenting are conveniently forgetting the point of this particular column, which is to focus on the PRODUCTION VALUE of these televised events&#8230;not the fights themselves. There are other articles on this very site that give that angle. While I have given my opinion on a card&#8217;s fights before, it is not the focus of this column.</p>
<p>Plus, it&#8217;s the fighters who execute the fights, not the people producing the card for TV. Those producing the telecast are responsible for everything but the outcome of the fights. Thanks for the comments, positive or negative.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I whole heartedly agree that the production of this event was flat... There seemed to be a lot of &#039;audioless&#039; air time, especially after the decision was announced. I was sitting there waiting for Kenny or Bas to say something. Lee makes some good points in this article that if implemented, could really improve the enjoyability for the viewer. That being said, I thought it was good card with some good fights, aside from the Couture debacle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I whole heartedly agree that the production of this event was flat&#8230; There seemed to be a lot of &#8216;audioless&#8217; air time, especially after the decision was announced. I was sitting there waiting for Kenny or Bas to say something. Lee makes some good points in this article that if implemented, could really improve the enjoyability for the viewer. That being said, I thought it was good card with some good fights, aside from the Couture debacle.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe that Lee agrees with this ekc you honestly think the Strikeforce card was an embarrassment to mma, come on talk about going overboard with the criticism,and for someone to say that they aren&#039;t ordering the up coming Affliction card because they had some technical issues the first time must becoming from a casual mma fan because the card looks great and if you felt like a &quot;schmuck&quot; for paying $40 for the first show which was pretty good,then you must have felt like a big jackass if you&#039;re one of the people who shelled out $45 dollars for UFC 90.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe that Lee agrees with this ekc you honestly think the Strikeforce card was an embarrassment to mma, come on talk about going overboard with the criticism,and for someone to say that they aren&#8217;t ordering the up coming Affliction card because they had some technical issues the first time must becoming from a casual mma fan because the card looks great and if you felt like a &#8220;schmuck&#8221; for paying $40 for the first show which was pretty good,then you must have felt like a big jackass if you&#8217;re one of the people who shelled out $45 dollars for UFC 90.</p>
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		<title>By: G-DUB</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/postcard-from-the-couch-reviewing-strikeforce-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-58100</link>
		<dc:creator>G-DUB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solid article Lee  ... I couldn&#039;t agree with you more and production value DOES INDEED significantly impact the entertainment value (and thus my enjoyment) of fight cards.  Some people like fine wine .... others can&#039;t tell the difference between a Chateau Lafite and a California Chablis.  
It is absolutely because of production value that I will not be purchasing the upcoming Affliction show.  It was so horrible the last time around that I felt like a schmuck for coming $40 out of pocket.  Until I hear that they&#039;ve made some serious improvements in production, I&#039;m not chancing getting taken again.  Especially these days, people want their money&#039;s worth.  In that respect, the UFC never lets the customer down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solid article Lee  &#8230; I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more and production value DOES INDEED significantly impact the entertainment value (and thus my enjoyment) of fight cards.  Some people like fine wine &#8230;. others can&#8217;t tell the difference between a Chateau Lafite and a California Chablis.<br />
It is absolutely because of production value that I will not be purchasing the upcoming Affliction show.  It was so horrible the last time around that I felt like a schmuck for coming $40 out of pocket.  Until I hear that they&#8217;ve made some serious improvements in production, I&#8217;m not chancing getting taken again.  Especially these days, people want their money&#8217;s worth.  In that respect, the UFC never lets the customer down.</p>
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		<title>By: borocker</title>
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		<dc:creator>borocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 12:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I felt like the fights were fine but I agree with Lee that the production was horrible.   For the record I pay an extra $17 per month for HD.  In most cases it&#039;s well worth it....not this time.   Thanks for a great column Lee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I felt like the fights were fine but I agree with Lee that the production was horrible.   For the record I pay an extra $17 per month for HD.  In most cases it&#8217;s well worth it&#8230;.not this time.   Thanks for a great column Lee.</p>
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		<title>By: yomomma</title>
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		<dc:creator>yomomma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the FIGHTS??????????

Who gives a rats arse about all that stuff.    i mean to a degree it&#039;s important, but come on...MMA fans care about THE FIGHTS and the fights WERE GREAT.

How the F**** could you enjoy anything when your critiquing the lighting and all other stuff.   Geez man......

you take up a whole article saying what&#039;s wrong with the production and barely mention the fights........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the FIGHTS??????????</p>
<p>Who gives a rats arse about all that stuff.    i mean to a degree it&#8217;s important, but come on&#8230;MMA fans care about THE FIGHTS and the fights WERE GREAT.</p>
<p>How the F**** could you enjoy anything when your critiquing the lighting and all other stuff.   Geez man&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>you take up a whole article saying what&#8217;s wrong with the production and barely mention the fights&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Gerowitz</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/postcard-from-the-couch-reviewing-strikeforce-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-58065</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Gerowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually have caught a bit of DREAM and absolutely will do one of these on them some day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually have caught a bit of DREAM and absolutely will do one of these on them some day.</p>
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		<title>By: Cash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee,  I hope you get a chance to watch a dream card.   I LOVE the look and feel of their events.  I&#039;ll grant you  5 or 6 hours is an investment, and you&#039;ll be pulling your hair out over the pacing of the event.  But they are generally  visual brilliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee,  I hope you get a chance to watch a dream card.   I LOVE the look and feel of their events.  I&#8217;ll grant you  5 or 6 hours is an investment, and you&#8217;ll be pulling your hair out over the pacing of the event.  But they are generally  visual brilliance.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Gerowitz</title>
		<link>http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/11/22/postcard-from-the-couch-reviewing-strikeforce-destruction/comment-page-1/#comment-58048</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Gerowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HexRei...I&#039;m glad you gave your opinion because there are viewers out there who don&#039;t care about the production and only care about the fights. Having said that, this column is one that is based solely on the production of televised MMA events. I&#039;m not here to provide predictions and expert analysis on MMA cards. But I appreciate your opinion because I know there are others who agree with you.

Also, HDNet is not free to most viewers. For me to get it, it is part of an HD package that I have to pay for. So, if it&#039;s part of an exclusive package, yeah, I wouldn&#039;t mind seeing some quality out of it. Especially from a network that sells itself on bringing high definition mixed martial arts programming into our homes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HexRei&#8230;I&#8217;m glad you gave your opinion because there are viewers out there who don&#8217;t care about the production and only care about the fights. Having said that, this column is one that is based solely on the production of televised MMA events. I&#8217;m not here to provide predictions and expert analysis on MMA cards. But I appreciate your opinion because I know there are others who agree with you.</p>
<p>Also, HDNet is not free to most viewers. For me to get it, it is part of an HD package that I have to pay for. So, if it&#8217;s part of an exclusive package, yeah, I wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing some quality out of it. Especially from a network that sells itself on bringing high definition mixed martial arts programming into our homes.</p>
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		<title>By: HexRei</title>
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		<dc:creator>HexRei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;ekc on November 22nd, 2008 1:23 pm

as someone who works in MMA production, the HD Net show was just horrible. plain and simple. on every aspect of a prodcution, and its not the money… it bad directors, bad camera crew, bad audio, bad lighting, bad announcing,… i mean, the cameras were not even white balanced or exposed properly.

a true embarrassment to MMA i feel.

and the fights were all pretty bad on top of that…. but i was nice to see scott smith get a win.&lt;/b&gt;

The production wasn&#039;t great but who cares? I had no problem understanding what was going on in the cage and really that&#039;s what matters to me. With the exception of the Kim Couture &quot;fight&quot; I actually enjoyed the bouts. I don&#039;t mind early KO&#039;s and you can&#039;t really put the blame for a cut stoppage on Strikeforce.

If you dislike Strikeforce so much, don&#039;t watch it! They simply don&#039;t have the resources or experience to put on shows with the UFC&#039;s level of production. But as long as they are showing good fights, it just doesn&#039;t bother me much, MMA is about the fights not the camera angles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>ekc on November 22nd, 2008 1:23 pm</p>
<p>as someone who works in MMA production, the HD Net show was just horrible. plain and simple. on every aspect of a prodcution, and its not the money… it bad directors, bad camera crew, bad audio, bad lighting, bad announcing,… i mean, the cameras were not even white balanced or exposed properly.</p>
<p>a true embarrassment to MMA i feel.</p>
<p>and the fights were all pretty bad on top of that…. but i was nice to see scott smith get a win.</b></p>
<p>The production wasn&#8217;t great but who cares? I had no problem understanding what was going on in the cage and really that&#8217;s what matters to me. With the exception of the Kim Couture &#8220;fight&#8221; I actually enjoyed the bouts. I don&#8217;t mind early KO&#8217;s and you can&#8217;t really put the blame for a cut stoppage on Strikeforce.</p>
<p>If you dislike Strikeforce so much, don&#8217;t watch it! They simply don&#8217;t have the resources or experience to put on shows with the UFC&#8217;s level of production. But as long as they are showing good fights, it just doesn&#8217;t bother me much, MMA is about the fights not the camera angles.</p>
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		<title>By: modogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>modogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 21:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you hit it on the spot with the Lina-Couture fight, the ref should have called it earlier, because it was paifully obvious that Lina was not ready for the fight. And this is quite assuming on my end, but I have to assume that maybe Dana is on to something with saying not enough women are in MMA to get heavily into it. Maybe what happened to Lina was that she doesn&#039;t fight at a big camp like Xtremem Couture, and maybe she doesn&#039;t have other females to prepare for fights with. It was not fun to watch that fight, it was like a youtube video of a H.S. kid getting beat up.

And no comment on Scott Smith&#039;s comments after his win!!  I was quite surprised with his reference to Tom Attasio, was it known that he &quot;had a life partner named Lance&quot;. I don&#039;t think Scott was &quot;outting&quot; Tom, and in my opinion it doesn&#039;t matter to me, but i know not everyone feels that way. Will this be a big deal? And i don&#039;t think Dana would stoop to using it for one of his rants, and let&#039;s hope he doesn&#039;t</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you hit it on the spot with the Lina-Couture fight, the ref should have called it earlier, because it was paifully obvious that Lina was not ready for the fight. And this is quite assuming on my end, but I have to assume that maybe Dana is on to something with saying not enough women are in MMA to get heavily into it. Maybe what happened to Lina was that she doesn&#8217;t fight at a big camp like Xtremem Couture, and maybe she doesn&#8217;t have other females to prepare for fights with. It was not fun to watch that fight, it was like a youtube video of a H.S. kid getting beat up.</p>
<p>And no comment on Scott Smith&#8217;s comments after his win!!  I was quite surprised with his reference to Tom Attasio, was it known that he &#8220;had a life partner named Lance&#8221;. I don&#8217;t think Scott was &#8220;outting&#8221; Tom, and in my opinion it doesn&#8217;t matter to me, but i know not everyone feels that way. Will this be a big deal? And i don&#8217;t think Dana would stoop to using it for one of his rants, and let&#8217;s hope he doesn&#8217;t</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Gerowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Gerowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually like Bas a lot, just not as an analyst, which seems odd since the man obviously knows what he&#039;s talking about. For me, it&#039;s simply his delivery. He&#039;s more of a personality than a television analyst. Joe Rogan, on the other hand, understands television more, having worked on non-MMA shows such as Fear Factor. So, having played the role of a lead host/announcer, he has a better understanding of how to pace himself and when to interject his comments and when not to as an MMA analyst.

Also, ekc nailed it. There were other things that I also noticed last night that were a bit more on the technical side, but not really worth going into, because it would lose those who read this. But, I think ekc would agree with me when I say that if you worked on that production last night, there is no way you walk out of that show and say, &quot;Stellar show, guys and gals.&quot;

Thanks for the comments, keep them coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually like Bas a lot, just not as an analyst, which seems odd since the man obviously knows what he&#8217;s talking about. For me, it&#8217;s simply his delivery. He&#8217;s more of a personality than a television analyst. Joe Rogan, on the other hand, understands television more, having worked on non-MMA shows such as Fear Factor. So, having played the role of a lead host/announcer, he has a better understanding of how to pace himself and when to interject his comments and when not to as an MMA analyst.</p>
<p>Also, ekc nailed it. There were other things that I also noticed last night that were a bit more on the technical side, but not really worth going into, because it would lose those who read this. But, I think ekc would agree with me when I say that if you worked on that production last night, there is no way you walk out of that show and say, &#8220;Stellar show, guys and gals.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments, keep them coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Davey D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davey D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee, thanks for your response. I hope NBC and Strikeforce can work a deal to produce live events. They could agree to 4 shows in 2009 perphaps? I haven&#039;t caught any of their late night shows just becuase I&#039;m usually busy then. Cheers!

I am a fan of Bas Rutten. When he and Quadros did Pride FC&#039;s commentary, I enjoyed it. Whenever Rampage was in the mix it was gold. Good times man. I don&#039;t see Bas to much anymore . Practice makes perfect, isn&#039;t that what we strive for anyways?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee, thanks for your response. I hope NBC and Strikeforce can work a deal to produce live events. They could agree to 4 shows in 2009 perphaps? I haven&#8217;t caught any of their late night shows just becuase I&#8217;m usually busy then. Cheers!</p>
<p>I am a fan of Bas Rutten. When he and Quadros did Pride FC&#8217;s commentary, I enjoyed it. Whenever Rampage was in the mix it was gold. Good times man. I don&#8217;t see Bas to much anymore . Practice makes perfect, isn&#8217;t that what we strive for anyways?</p>
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		<title>By: RJA</title>
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		<dc:creator>RJA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree he does have a colorfull personallity,and his quirkyness does kind of draw you to him,wich i think is great on certain levels.But when it comes to announcing a fight,i personally want someone who&#039;s quick to break down and anylize whats going on and bas seems to speak his own language sometimes(figuratively)speaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree he does have a colorfull personallity,and his quirkyness does kind of draw you to him,wich i think is great on certain levels.But when it comes to announcing a fight,i personally want someone who&#8217;s quick to break down and anylize whats going on and bas seems to speak his own language sometimes(figuratively)speaking.</p>
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