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	<title>Comments on: Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou released by the UFC</title>
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		<title>By: Javier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Javier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very disappointed by the news. I&#039;ve seen this guy train in person and I&#039;ll tell you he is an animal!!!,, I&#039;ve never seen anybody kick so hard. He&#039;s knocking big dudes off the feet. I agree he has a cardio issue but once he gets through that problem he will be unstoppable. Mark my words this guy will be champion one day. If I were his Managers at Quest I&#039;d try to put him up against Babalu at Affliction 2. That&#039;ll be a good fight for him. It&#039;ll definitely put him back on the map. If he loses then I don&#039;t know what&#039;ll be next for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very disappointed by the news. I&#8217;ve seen this guy train in person and I&#8217;ll tell you he is an animal!!!,, I&#8217;ve never seen anybody kick so hard. He&#8217;s knocking big dudes off the feet. I agree he has a cardio issue but once he gets through that problem he will be unstoppable. Mark my words this guy will be champion one day. If I were his Managers at Quest I&#8217;d try to put him up against Babalu at Affliction 2. That&#8217;ll be a good fight for him. It&#8217;ll definitely put him back on the map. If he loses then I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;ll be next for him.</p>
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		<title>By: dbow1090</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbow1090</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not surprised at all.</description>
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		<title>By: KTru</title>
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		<dc:creator>KTru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where are my posts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where are my posts?</p>
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		<title>By: Cathedron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathedron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While we&#039;re at it, why do so many of you act like it&#039;s the end of a fighter&#039;s career when he gets cut from the UFC?  Even Dana White has said that some fighters just need to go join a smaller promotion and get some more experience or wins before coming back into the UFC.  Sokoudjou obviously needs some experience to get his game worked out.  I have no doubt he&#039;ll be back.  And like it or not, he&#039;s clearly getting overpaid.  For what he gets paid to give a sloppy performance, we could see several up and coming fighters get paid to put on a good show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we&#8217;re at it, why do so many of you act like it&#8217;s the end of a fighter&#8217;s career when he gets cut from the UFC?  Even Dana White has said that some fighters just need to go join a smaller promotion and get some more experience or wins before coming back into the UFC.  Sokoudjou obviously needs some experience to get his game worked out.  I have no doubt he&#8217;ll be back.  And like it or not, he&#8217;s clearly getting overpaid.  For what he gets paid to give a sloppy performance, we could see several up and coming fighters get paid to put on a good show.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathedron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathedron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cane didn&#039;t knock him out, Sokoudjou just passed out from exhaustion.  :)
He has the typical problem of so many young, talented fighters.  He blows his wad in the first few minutes going for a quick win.  Once you&#039;re tired, it doesn&#039;t matter what your skills are.  His aggressive recklessness gave him some quick wins, but won&#039;t work now that everyone knows what to expect from him.  He better take this as a wake-up call and learn to pace himself.  There&#039;s a reason the UFC doesn&#039;t make a habit of signing fighters with less than 10 pro fights on their resume.  I think they only signed him so another promotion didn&#039;t snag him and turn him into a can bashing star.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cane didn&#8217;t knock him out, Sokoudjou just passed out from exhaustion.  <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
He has the typical problem of so many young, talented fighters.  He blows his wad in the first few minutes going for a quick win.  Once you&#8217;re tired, it doesn&#8217;t matter what your skills are.  His aggressive recklessness gave him some quick wins, but won&#8217;t work now that everyone knows what to expect from him.  He better take this as a wake-up call and learn to pace himself.  There&#8217;s a reason the UFC doesn&#8217;t make a habit of signing fighters with less than 10 pro fights on their resume.  I think they only signed him so another promotion didn&#8217;t snag him and turn him into a can bashing star.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually Robert i have posters of Dana on both my front door and my bedroom wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually Robert i have posters of Dana on both my front door and my bedroom wall.</p>
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		<title>By: screwface</title>
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		<dc:creator>screwface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i too am very saddened by this news, had very high hopes for sok. but he def didnt live up to his hype in the ufc so far. i do think the cut came to soon but live and learn, maybe he gets his game back to where it needs to be and ufc takes him back, i cant fault the ufc for its decision tho, for those who never seen his performance in pride, prolly were very unimpressed with him so far. when he fought in pride he let it all go with no fear, but in ufc he fought way to cautious and telegraphed his strikes. cmon sok u still have fans, take it to the next level and come back stronger. heres to hoping ull be back in ufc 1 day :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i too am very saddened by this news, had very high hopes for sok. but he def didnt live up to his hype in the ufc so far. i do think the cut came to soon but live and learn, maybe he gets his game back to where it needs to be and ufc takes him back, i cant fault the ufc for its decision tho, for those who never seen his performance in pride, prolly were very unimpressed with him so far. when he fought in pride he let it all go with no fear, but in ufc he fought way to cautious and telegraphed his strikes. cmon sok u still have fans, take it to the next level and come back stronger. heres to hoping ull be back in ufc 1 day <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok so you don&#039;t agree with someone&#039;s comments so you ban them.Apparently you don&#039;t agree with the first amendment steve, by the way there is more than 1 Robert posting comments here.I guess you&#039;re one of the fans I&#039;m talking about.Do you have a poster of Dana White on your bedroom wall,or is it right on the front door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok so you don&#8217;t agree with someone&#8217;s comments so you ban them.Apparently you don&#8217;t agree with the first amendment steve, by the way there is more than 1 Robert posting comments here.I guess you&#8217;re one of the fans I&#8217;m talking about.Do you have a poster of Dana White on your bedroom wall,or is it right on the front door.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well Robert first of all this isn&#039;t a forum, lol. second of all you&#039;re the only stupid one i see here because you can&#039;t control your temper and all you do is whine. i always see you making thoughtless comments, insulting people, and not understanding statistics and logical business moves. if i were Sam Caplan i would ban you from this site, but i suppose he doesn&#039;t even waste his time reading your ignorant and pathetic posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well Robert first of all this isn&#8217;t a forum, lol. second of all you&#8217;re the only stupid one i see here because you can&#8217;t control your temper and all you do is whine. i always see you making thoughtless comments, insulting people, and not understanding statistics and logical business moves. if i were Sam Caplan i would ban you from this site, but i suppose he doesn&#8217;t even waste his time reading your ignorant and pathetic posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 18:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK Brandon so You&#039;re fine with letting go of Sokoudjou and keeping guys like Houston Alexander whose lost 3 in a row the last of which was Eric Shafer,because he makes less money? Do you people know how fuckin stupid and hypocritical you guys who post on these forums are? One minute people say you have to be one of the best fighters if your in the UFC ,but I guess that only applies to their  pay rate, because if anyone thinks that guys like Mike Patt,Matt Hamil,Tomasz Drwal,James Irvin,Houston Alexander,Eric Shafer,Stephen Bonnar,and I could go on are better than Sokoudjou then your fuckin stupid.The UFC wasn&#039;t going to go belly up by paying Sokoudjou but could have given people a better match up in the future than Ivan Serati and Tomasz Drwal at UFC 93.People who agree with this decision are hopeless fans who think Dana White is a cool bastard and have no criticism for one move Zuffa makes.Fans like that are a fuckin joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK Brandon so You&#8217;re fine with letting go of Sokoudjou and keeping guys like Houston Alexander whose lost 3 in a row the last of which was Eric Shafer,because he makes less money? Do you people know how fuckin stupid and hypocritical you guys who post on these forums are? One minute people say you have to be one of the best fighters if your in the UFC ,but I guess that only applies to their  pay rate, because if anyone thinks that guys like Mike Patt,Matt Hamil,Tomasz Drwal,James Irvin,Houston Alexander,Eric Shafer,Stephen Bonnar,and I could go on are better than Sokoudjou then your fuckin stupid.The UFC wasn&#8217;t going to go belly up by paying Sokoudjou but could have given people a better match up in the future than Ivan Serati and Tomasz Drwal at UFC 93.People who agree with this decision are hopeless fans who think Dana White is a cool bastard and have no criticism for one move Zuffa makes.Fans like that are a fuckin joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes sense to me,  he under performed in all of his fights and it seems like his knee/leg must really be messed up.   Plus he&#039;s  making very solid coin,  50 000+ for his fights, so it&#039;s cheaper for them to just axe him and keep a Houston Alexander who makes 1/3 of that.  

It&#039;s probably a good idea for Soko to go back to Japan and maybe fight some cans and get himself some experience before stepping up to fighting the big boys...

My guess his first fight though will be against King Mo..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes sense to me,  he under performed in all of his fights and it seems like his knee/leg must really be messed up.   Plus he&#8217;s  making very solid coin,  50 000+ for his fights, so it&#8217;s cheaper for them to just axe him and keep a Houston Alexander who makes 1/3 of that.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably a good idea for Soko to go back to Japan and maybe fight some cans and get himself some experience before stepping up to fighting the big boys&#8230;</p>
<p>My guess his first fight though will be against King Mo..</p>
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		<title>By: truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soku doesn&#039;t like to get hit, once he does the fight seems to go out of him.</description>
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		<title>By: Johnnyrev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnnyrev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow I could think of like 4 guys I would rather see go than him .... but  the loss to Cain killed him ... I think that Cain could have withstood the loss without being cut but apparently Soku cant !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I could think of like 4 guys I would rather see go than him &#8230;. but  the loss to Cain killed him &#8230; I think that Cain could have withstood the loss without being cut but apparently Soku cant !</p>
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		<title>By: Binners</title>
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		<dc:creator>Binners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m gonna be really nervous watching Shogun&#039;s next fight he really needs a win.

As for Soku he&#039;s been a huge dissapointment, I&#039;m sure the UFC will have him back if he gets some good wins elsewhere but it makes no sense to keep him the way he&#039;s performing, someone like Jardine earns a fraction of what Soku earns. If Soku deserves to be in UFC he&#039;ll be back, I&#039;m not sure he&#039;s good enough, he seems more interested in money than fighting IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m gonna be really nervous watching Shogun&#8217;s next fight he really needs a win.</p>
<p>As for Soku he&#8217;s been a huge dissapointment, I&#8217;m sure the UFC will have him back if he gets some good wins elsewhere but it makes no sense to keep him the way he&#8217;s performing, someone like Jardine earns a fraction of what Soku earns. If Soku deserves to be in UFC he&#8217;ll be back, I&#8217;m not sure he&#8217;s good enough, he seems more interested in money than fighting IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 07:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this sux..was waitin for him to blow up one day</description>
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		<title>By: paddiosf</title>
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		<dc:creator>paddiosf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 07:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont get it, but I do in a financial sense, remember  a year or so ago he was one of the last top former Pride fighters who signed with the UFC and held out on signing so he was a high paid fighter who I like and has talent but never did anything but beat another Pride fighter who also was released he&#039;ll go over to Dream where I know he loves Japan..Who&#039;s Next Shogun if he losses 2 in a Row???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont get it, but I do in a financial sense, remember  a year or so ago he was one of the last top former Pride fighters who signed with the UFC and held out on signing so he was a high paid fighter who I like and has talent but never did anything but beat another Pride fighter who also was released he&#8217;ll go over to Dream where I know he loves Japan..Who&#8217;s Next Shogun if he losses 2 in a Row???</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 07:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He can&#039;t fight like he trains.</description>
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		<title>By: hambone</title>
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		<dc:creator>hambone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 05:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He is getting paid too much for his low drawing power.  That is it.  If he goes elsewhere and gets some big wins he will be back..........and at a lower price than he is making now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is getting paid too much for his low drawing power.  That is it.  If he goes elsewhere and gets some big wins he will be back&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.and at a lower price than he is making now.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 05:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>itshisownfault is probably 100% right.  

and steve, Alessio Sakara has never been, and will never be, a top tier fighter.  He is famous for getting KO&#039;d in spectacular fashion.  I dont know who the hell you are trying to fool with this &quot;great potential&quot; talk, I think that disappeared with Houston&#039;s 3rd straight loss against Eric Shafer of all people.  Houston is approaching his late 30&#039;s and is 12 years older then Sok, obviously potential has nothing to do with it, its about marketabillity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>itshisownfault is probably 100% right.  </p>
<p>and steve, Alessio Sakara has never been, and will never be, a top tier fighter.  He is famous for getting KO&#8217;d in spectacular fashion.  I dont know who the hell you are trying to fool with this &#8220;great potential&#8221; talk, I think that disappeared with Houston&#8217;s 3rd straight loss against Eric Shafer of all people.  Houston is approaching his late 30&#8242;s and is 12 years older then Sok, obviously potential has nothing to do with it, its about marketabillity.</p>
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		<title>By: Itshisownfault</title>
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		<dc:creator>Itshisownfault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 04:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, because, and this is just my guess - they don&#039;t make as much as Soko.  I would imagine the UFC tried to renegotiate his contract like they did with Fabrico Werdum - when Soko said I&#039;m not negotiating to 10k per fight ;) they cut him.

Soko was a big disappointment in that he had a lot of time to improve on his weaknesses and didn&#039;t appear to.  I thought he was going to be a great addition to the UFC, however he has been lackluster and very raw.  I still think the talent is there, but you don&#039;t keep paying someone top dollar when they are performing like someone that may realize their potential &quot;one day&quot;.

The one fight he did win and a given - they only brought Nak in for fodder (yes, he&#039;d kick my arse I know).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, because, and this is just my guess &#8211; they don&#8217;t make as much as Soko.  I would imagine the UFC tried to renegotiate his contract like they did with Fabrico Werdum &#8211; when Soko said I&#8217;m not negotiating to 10k per fight <img src='http://fiveouncesofpain.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  they cut him.</p>
<p>Soko was a big disappointment in that he had a lot of time to improve on his weaknesses and didn&#8217;t appear to.  I thought he was going to be a great addition to the UFC, however he has been lackluster and very raw.  I still think the talent is there, but you don&#8217;t keep paying someone top dollar when they are performing like someone that may realize their potential &#8220;one day&#8221;.</p>
<p>The one fight he did win and a given &#8211; they only brought Nak in for fodder (yes, he&#8217;d kick my arse I know).</p>
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