Comments on: Braden Bice: Inside the Mind of the Designated Fall Guy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/braden-bice-inside-the-mind-of-the-designated-fall-guy/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:05:57 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Anthony Holder http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/braden-bice-inside-the-mind-of-the-designated-fall-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-59755 Anthony Holder Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:00:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9610#comment-59755 I've trained with Braden and seen him fight and although he may not have the greatest record, I guarantee win or lose for Russow it will NOT be an easy fight...Good luck brotha and get this shit done right I’ve trained with Braden and seen him fight and although he may not have the greatest record, I guarantee win or lose for Russow it will NOT be an easy fight…Good luck brotha and get this shit done right

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]]> By: borocker http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/braden-bice-inside-the-mind-of-the-designated-fall-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-59314 borocker Sat, 06 Dec 2008 11:24:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9610#comment-59314 Braden.....don't let these kids goad you. Get in the cage and get it done. That will shut them up. It's going to be a tough fight....good luck and give em' hell. Braden…..don’t let these kids goad you. Get in the cage and get it done. That will shut them up. It’s going to be a tough fight….good luck and give em’ hell.

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]]> By: Braden Bice http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/braden-bice-inside-the-mind-of-the-designated-fall-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-59208 Braden Bice Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:23:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9610#comment-59208 First off i dont have a losing record im 8-7 im not 10-1 but how many of you key board junkies jumped in a cage? i dont expect anyone to think im going to win thats why when i do its going to be sweeter. I have won my last two fights in under a min. and over guys with winning records Im far from a ( CAN) I bring it every time i step in there First off i dont have a losing record im 8-7 im not 10-1 but how many of you key board junkies jumped in a cage? i dont expect anyone to think im going to win thats why when i do its going to be sweeter. I have won my last two fights in under a min. and over guys with winning records Im far from a ( CAN) I bring it every time i step in there

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]]> By: Jason G http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/braden-bice-inside-the-mind-of-the-designated-fall-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-59071 Jason G Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:38:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9610#comment-59071 I see your point there and I hope our comments put some fire in you and you take it to him but it doesn't look like they gave Russow a tough fight. But hey this is an excellent opportunity for you so prove us wrong and good luck. I see your point there and I hope our comments put some fire in you and you take it to him but it doesn’t look like they gave Russow a tough fight. But hey this is an excellent opportunity for you so prove us wrong and good luck.

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]]> By: Jonathan Snowden http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/braden-bice-inside-the-mind-of-the-designated-fall-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-59055 Jonathan Snowden Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:02:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9610#comment-59055 Jason, I personally think it's important to remember that fighters like Braden make up the majority of fight cards nationwide. I hoped to shed some light on what a fighter is thinking as they step onto the regional or national stage for the first time. I was interested in what the thought processes were for fighters who are matched up with opponents that may be above their skill level. Did they feel competitive? Were they awaiting an inevitable destruction? Or would he be confident and upbeat? Best, Jonathan Snowden Jason,

I personally think it’s important to remember that fighters like Braden make up the majority of fight cards nationwide. I hoped to shed some light on what a fighter is thinking as they step onto the regional or national stage for the first time.

I was interested in what the thought processes were for fighters who are matched up with opponents that may be above their skill level. Did they feel competitive? Were they awaiting an inevitable destruction? Or would he be confident and upbeat?

Best,

Jonathan Snowden

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]]> By: Jason G http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/braden-bice-inside-the-mind-of-the-designated-fall-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-59052 Jason G Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:23:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9610#comment-59052 Hate to say it, but who cares? Russow is going to destroy this guy. I don't like to watch non-competitive matches so unless 5oz is going to start interviewing guys from local and small regional shows with losing records I don't know what the point of this was. But hey this is commonplace for guys to pad the record a bit with cans before they make it to the big show. At least it isn't like boxing where they have severely inflated records from all the cans they ko'd. Hate to say it, but who cares? Russow is going to destroy this guy. I don’t like to watch non-competitive matches so unless 5oz is going to start interviewing guys from local and small regional shows with losing records I don’t know what the point of this was. But hey this is commonplace for guys to pad the record a bit with cans before they make it to the big show. At least it isn’t like boxing where they have severely inflated records from all the cans they ko’d.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/braden-bice-inside-the-mind-of-the-designated-fall-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-59051 HexRei Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:01:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9610#comment-59051 <b>So, give him easy one sided fights that create no challenge so that he’ll be ready to take on the elite level of fighter seen in the UFC and the great heavyweights of Affliction.”</b> This is how most young fighters build their records. Big promotions often won't even sign a guy to give them a whack at top-flight competition until they have a bunch of wins against lower-tier opponents. Sure there are exceptions, but not everyone is entering the sport with BJ Penn's pedigree. So, give him easy one sided fights that create no challenge so that he’ll be ready to take on the elite level of fighter seen in the UFC and the great heavyweights of Affliction.”

This is how most young fighters build their records. Big promotions often won’t even sign a guy to give them a whack at top-flight competition until they have a bunch of wins against lower-tier opponents.

Sure there are exceptions, but not everyone is entering the sport with BJ Penn’s pedigree.

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]]> By: Bucco http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/braden-bice-inside-the-mind-of-the-designated-fall-guy/comment-page-1/#comment-59048 Bucco Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:44:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9610#comment-59048 "As Cox looks to secure a big future fight for his fighter in the UFC, in Affliction, or in Japan, it’s more important than ever that Russow take fights he can win and win impressively." So, give him easy one sided fights that create no challenge so that he'll be ready to take on the elite level of fighter seen in the UFC and the great heavyweights of Affliction. I'm all for wanting that mystical Mike Tyson aura but it has never worked in MMA and only creates negativity for a coddled fighter (Kimbo) that should rise in popularity based on fighting not promoters and managers. “I know I’ve got myself into a fight. I know I’m not going in there and taking an easy one. But I’ve never fought anyone easy before. I don’t fight cans. I don’t want to. I want to fight the best. If I take a couple of losses along the way-it’s all experience. I like competition. I just want to fight tough guys. If I take somebody on that’s not going to be much of a fight, it doesn’t make me feel like much of a fighter. I want to fight people who are going to challenge me,” Why don't his managers listen to him. I'd rather see people matched up based on an even talent level. I like seeing a knockout or a great sub but in a one sided fight where everyone thinks this one guy can never win but that guy does is so much more fun to watch. Everyone loves an underdog but when it is "set-up" as a no chance to lose fight the better fighter is not going to fight to his potential. ie St. Pierre vs Serra ie Gonzaga vs Cro Cop (although thats more debatable) ie Shogun vs Griffen (say what you want but Shogun was only half a man that night) “As Cox looks to secure a big future fight for his fighter in the UFC, in Affliction, or in Japan, it’s more important than ever that Russow take fights he can win and win impressively.”

So, give him easy one sided fights that create no challenge so that he’ll be ready to take on the elite level of fighter seen in the UFC and the great heavyweights of Affliction.

I’m all for wanting that mystical Mike Tyson aura but it has never worked in MMA and only creates negativity for a coddled fighter (Kimbo) that should rise in popularity based on fighting not promoters and managers.

“I know I’ve got myself into a fight. I know I’m not going in there and taking an easy one. But I’ve never fought anyone easy before. I don’t fight cans. I don’t want to. I want to fight the best. If I take a couple of losses along the way-it’s all experience. I like competition. I just want to fight tough guys. If I take somebody on that’s not going to be much of a fight, it doesn’t make me feel like much of a fighter. I want to fight people who are going to challenge me,”

Why don’t his managers listen to him. I’d rather see people matched up based on an even talent level. I like seeing a knockout or a great sub but in a one sided fight where everyone thinks this one guy can never win but that guy does is so much more fun to watch. Everyone loves an underdog but when it is “set-up” as a no chance to lose fight the better fighter is not going to fight to his potential.
ie St. Pierre vs Serra
ie Gonzaga vs Cro Cop (although thats more debatable)
ie Shogun vs Griffen (say what you want but Shogun was only half a man that night)

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