Comments on: Jorge Gurgel: “I can’t be released from a childhood dream” http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 18:11:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Dball http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59291 Dball Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:51:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59291 If people are really thinking he is using tongue and cheek then u are really reaching for a defense for him...and if he did, it was horrible use. he still play down hazelett's work ethic ...he basically says "yea he has really good work ethic, but its not as good as mine" he's conceited, stop defending him If people are really thinking he is using tongue and cheek then u are really reaching for a defense for him…and if he did, it was horrible use.

he still play down hazelett’s work ethic …he basically says

“yea he has really good work ethic, but its not as good as mine”

he’s conceited, stop defending him

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]]> By: DamonO http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59288 DamonO Sat, 06 Dec 2008 01:14:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59288 Jorge should stick with reffing or definitely move to these other organizations where the competition isn't as stiff. He's gotta build himself up again. I'm not saying that his opponents were the toughest out there but there's obviously some issues with him being in the top organization. I think that this guy just needs to get the mental aspect more down and he'll come back stronger than ever. He did pretty well in his last fight but it was a little too late to show his talent. Jorge should stick with reffing or definitely move to these other organizations where the competition isn’t as stiff. He’s gotta build himself up again. I’m not saying that his opponents were the toughest out there but there’s obviously some issues with him being in the top organization. I think that this guy just needs to get the mental aspect more down and he’ll come back stronger than ever. He did pretty well in his last fight but it was a little too late to show his talent.

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]]> By: Schlegel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59281 Schlegel Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:33:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59281 Great interview and this definitely reassures my faith in Jorge. Anyone that thinks he takes credit for Hazlett obv doesnt get the tongue in cheek tone. Reading the next lines about Hazlett training explains what he meant. I do also think Jorge has a great work ethic, maybe not 2nd in the world to Rich, but seriously those dudes train insanely, anyone remember the All Access with Rich? But I do agree alot of top level guys train like that now too, but anyway. Jorge just wanted to be an exciting fighter and now he has found out he has to worry about winning first, the UFC isn't like Pride back in the day, you need to win to stay, after worrying about the winning he can mix in the excitement. I think we will finally see Jorge's BJJ skills when he fights in Strikeforce Great interview and this definitely reassures my faith in Jorge. Anyone that thinks he takes credit for Hazlett obv doesnt get the tongue in cheek tone. Reading the next lines about Hazlett training explains what he meant. I do also think Jorge has a great work ethic, maybe not 2nd in the world to Rich, but seriously those dudes train insanely, anyone remember the All Access with Rich? But I do agree alot of top level guys train like that now too, but anyway. Jorge just wanted to be an exciting fighter and now he has found out he has to worry about winning first, the UFC isn’t like Pride back in the day, you need to win to stay, after worrying about the winning he can mix in the excitement. I think we will finally see Jorge’s BJJ skills when he fights in Strikeforce

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]]> By: Austin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59232 Austin Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:09:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59232 "One thing I can promise you now is that you will see my Jiu-Jitsu skills now. Period." Can we get bodog to open up a line for his next fight: "WILL GURGEL ACTUALLY USE HIS JIU JITSU SKILLS?!" “One thing I can promise you now is that you will see my Jiu-Jitsu skills now. Period.”
Can we get bodog to open up a line for his next fight: “WILL GURGEL ACTUALLY USE HIS JIU JITSU SKILLS?!”

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]]> By: Echolocating http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59110 Echolocating Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:57:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59110 "The losses were mainly due to me being stupid though." "...my retarded head veered from the game plan, and I was having too much fun striking when I should have taken him to the ground to submit him." "Dustin is the ultimate student. He has no ego whatsoever. He’s always willing to learn." Gurgel acknowledges he's made a lot of stupid mistakes and can identify important qualities in good fighters, but he honestly seems to lack the capacity to become a great fighter himself. I suppose... those who can't do, teach. ;-) “The losses were mainly due to me being stupid though.”

“…my retarded head veered from the game plan, and I was having too much fun striking when I should have taken him to the ground to submit him.”

“Dustin is the ultimate student. He has no ego whatsoever. He’s always willing to learn.”

Gurgel acknowledges he’s made a lot of stupid mistakes and can identify important qualities in good fighters, but he honestly seems to lack the capacity to become a great fighter himself.

I suppose… those who can’t do, teach. ;-)

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]]> By: THORAZINE http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59092 THORAZINE Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:22:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59092 Jorge G. "THE CABANA BOY"... has some of the WORST strategy in MMA... he's had so much time to change and hasn't... I doubt his word''' that he'll change now... I hate stupid fighter's (in the cage) and Cabana Boy is STUPID. Jorge G. “THE CABANA BOY”… has some of the WORST strategy in MMA… he’s had so much time to change and hasn’t… I doubt his word”’ that he’ll change now… I hate stupid fighter’s (in the cage) and Cabana Boy is STUPID.

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]]> By: Grappo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59083 Grappo Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:19:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59083 Firing via email... harsh. Glad to see he will actually be using his BJJ skills in his upcoming fights. Well... glad to hear it anyway. I won't believe it until I actually see it. Firing via email… harsh.

Glad to see he will actually be using his BJJ skills in his upcoming fights. Well… glad to hear it anyway. I won’t believe it until I actually see it.

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]]> By: steve http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59077 steve Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:38:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59077 good interview good interview

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]]> By: Gary Herman http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59056 Gary Herman Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:11:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59056 Nah - I don't think he was taking all the credit for Hazelett during the interview. He was saying it a little tounge-in-cheek which is why he threw in the word "brother". I actually give Gurgel some credit for being very honest in his answers so close after the release occurred. Nah – I don’t think he was taking all the credit for Hazelett during the interview. He was saying it a little tounge-in-cheek which is why he threw in the word “brother”. I actually give Gurgel some credit for being very honest in his answers so close after the release occurred.

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]]> By: benjamink http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59045 benjamink Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:16:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59045 I detected a little hulk hogan in his response about teaching dustin, so don't get your panties in a bundle. relax, yours, benji I detected a little hulk hogan in his response about teaching dustin, so don’t get your panties in a bundle.

relax,

yours,

benji

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]]> By: ctownhood http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59041 ctownhood Wed, 03 Dec 2008 18:03:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59041 Geez....he's like a mini Matt Hughes now.......without the great win/loss record or titles ;) Geez….he’s like a mini Matt Hughes now…….without the great win/loss record or titles ;)

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]]> By: Dball http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59038 Dball Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:32:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59038 hahaha wow im retarded. i forgot about the Palhares fight. I did not see that because i think that fight was on a shitty card. thanks to the 8,000 people who decided to point that out and neglected to talk about the article. hahaha wow im retarded. i forgot about the Palhares fight. I did not see that because i think that fight was on a shitty card. thanks to the 8,000 people who decided to point that out and neglected to talk about the article.

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]]> By: dpk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59036 dpk Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:13:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59036 Dan Henderson won his last fight - UFC 88. I'm going to take Franklin by UD. Yeah, I'm don't think I'm a Gurgel fan anymore after this interview. Taking all the credit for Hazelett, and then bragging about his own work ethic, when the question wasn't about him. Give your students at least a little bit of credit for amazing ability, either natural or just being able to pick things up. Dan Henderson won his last fight – UFC 88. I’m going to take Franklin by UD.

Yeah, I’m don’t think I’m a Gurgel fan anymore after this interview. Taking all the credit for Hazelett, and then bragging about his own work ethic, when the question wasn’t about him. Give your students at least a little bit of credit for amazing ability, either natural or just being able to pick things up.

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59035 Mike Wolfe Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:09:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59035 Let's see if he's learned his lesson in his Strikeforce fights. Grapple and win, for pity's sake. Let’s see if he’s learned his lesson in his Strikeforce fights. Grapple and win, for pity’s sake.

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]]> By: ttt http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59034 ttt Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:09:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59034 hendo beat palhares hendo beat palhares

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]]> By: Brandon http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59033 Brandon Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:06:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59033 FYI Henderson won his last fight FYI Henderson won his last fight

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]]> By: ihateemo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59032 ihateemo Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:03:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59032 "I cant see Dan Henderson losing three fights in a row." He hasn't, he beat Rousimar Palhares (sp?) in his last fight. Via decision, of course. ;) “I cant see Dan Henderson losing three fights in a row.”

He hasn’t, he beat Rousimar Palhares (sp?) in his last fight.

Via decision, of course. ;)

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]]> By: Dball http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59026 Dball Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:40:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59026 Mr Gurgel has just hit Tim Sylvia level of people i cant stand in MMA. Aside from the first post pointing how Gurgel said hes completely responsible for Dustin Hazelett's skills, it also bothers me how, when asked about Hazelett's work ethic he answers, "Dustin Hazelett made himself what he is from believing in his coach and having one of the greatest work ethics outside of myself and Rich Franklin" First off, Jorge has really got to stop using his name in the same sentence as Rich Franklin, he will never come close to what rich franklin has done in MMa. Second, if someone's work ethic is good enough, people will notice. You dont have to blow your own horn about it. Third, i really doubt Gurgel has anywhere close to one of the greatest work ethics in mma because his results certainly dont show it...a 3-4 record in the ufc against not one viable contender half of which will probably never fight in the ufc again. I would love to see Jorge try to keep up with Sherk', Clay, or Forrest's training regiments. (on a side note im a big fan of Rich, but hes gonna lose based on the law of averages against Hendo. I cant see Dan Henderson losing three fights in a row.) Mr Gurgel has just hit Tim Sylvia level of people i cant stand in MMA.

Aside from the first post pointing how Gurgel said hes completely responsible for Dustin Hazelett’s skills, it also bothers me how, when asked about Hazelett’s work ethic he answers,

“Dustin Hazelett made himself what he is from believing in his coach and having one of the greatest work ethics outside of myself and Rich Franklin”

First off, Jorge has really got to stop using his name in the same sentence as Rich Franklin, he will never come close to what rich franklin has done in MMa.

Second, if someone’s work ethic is good enough, people will notice. You dont have to blow your own horn about it.

Third, i really doubt Gurgel has anywhere close to one of the greatest work ethics in mma because his results certainly dont show it…a 3-4 record in the ufc against not one viable contender half of which will probably never fight in the ufc again. I would love to see Jorge try to keep up with Sherk’, Clay, or Forrest’s training regiments.

(on a side note im a big fan of Rich, but hes gonna lose based on the law of averages against Hendo. I cant see Dan Henderson losing three fights in a row.)

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]]> By: Patrick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59024 Patrick Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:54:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59024 I'd say that maybe Eddie Bravo is responsible for just a bit of it.... I’d say that maybe Eddie Bravo is responsible for just a bit of it….

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]]> By: MMAEruption.com http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/03/jorge-gurgel-i-cant-be-released-from-a-childhood-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-59022 MMAEruption.com Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:51:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9612#comment-59022 Q: One of the guys who has looked very good coming from your training camp is Dustin Hazelett. His Jiu-Jitsu has been off the charts. Are you responsible for some of his growth? JG: I’m responsible for all of that brother. Ugg... Q: One of the guys who has looked very good coming from your training camp is Dustin Hazelett. His Jiu-Jitsu has been off the charts. Are you responsible for some of his growth?

JG: I’m responsible for all of that brother.

Ugg…

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