Comments on: TUF 8 Finale: Preview and Predictions http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/12/tuf-8-finale-preview-and-predictions/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 18:11:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: glock http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/12/tuf-8-finale-preview-and-predictions/comment-page-1/#comment-59985 glock Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:41:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9938#comment-59985 I'm sooo happy to see Johnson fight again and hope he's 100% with no lingering effects of the injury. If he's on, it'll be a quick fight with a dominating performance. This guy has so much going for him, reach,speed,power, AND his wrestling is way better than OK, plus he's a great smart humble guy,that says his dad is his best role model and friend; what's not to like? Also Burns comes off somewhat less than sincerely remorseful, or convinced of the his being undeserving of that last "W". I see Bader getting subbed. Quickly, unless he refuses to close the distance and let Vinnie get a hold of him. He'd be smart to come into the ring really warm and sweaty. If Vinnie doesn't get to the ground quick enough though,his chin is a big question. He should take advantage of that, and feign getting stunned in an exchange then let Bader follow him with reckless abandon to the ground (or fence), and pick some low hangin fruit....... One caveat, I too think Vinnies striking IS a lot better than we've seen thus far, and could actually be a big spoiler. I think he's got a decent reach advantage as well, but I'm not sure..... Both Junie and Kaplan gotta show us something.... either can be impressive or wimpy (by wimpy I'm talking UFC standards) . What's it gonna be? UFC or burger king? pretty good time to make that choice.... I don't care, I just wanna see a good fight. If I had to pick, I'd say Kaplan showed way less than he was capable of, and is less prone to be effected by the mental ebbs and flows, Junie on the other hand comes off WAY more emotional but we have a better sense of what he can do. So I guess if Kaplan hangs tough Junie starts giving up points,but if Junie has gotten "his mind right" while back home, then I'll give him the edge.Either can get caught. I gotta go with Sam and say Nover is the best fighter I've never heard of. Got the makings of an MMA superstar thus far. I think this fight will be better than we all are predicting but Nover will prevail. I’m sooo happy to see Johnson fight again and hope he’s 100% with no lingering effects of the injury. If he’s on, it’ll be a quick fight with a dominating performance. This guy has so much going for him, reach,speed,power, AND his wrestling is way better than OK, plus he’s a great smart humble guy,that says his dad is his best role model and friend; what’s not to like? Also Burns comes off somewhat less than sincerely remorseful, or convinced of the his being undeserving of that last “W”.

I see Bader getting subbed. Quickly, unless he refuses to close the distance and let Vinnie get a hold of him. He’d be smart to come into the ring really warm and sweaty.
If Vinnie doesn’t get to the ground quick enough though,his chin is a big question. He should take advantage of that, and feign getting stunned in an exchange then let Bader follow him with reckless abandon to the ground (or fence), and pick some low hangin fruit……. One caveat, I too think Vinnies striking IS a lot better than we’ve seen thus far, and could actually be a big spoiler. I think he’s got a decent reach advantage as well, but I’m not sure…..

Both Junie and Kaplan gotta show us something…. either can be impressive or wimpy (by wimpy I’m talking UFC standards) . What’s it gonna be? UFC or burger king? pretty good time to make that choice…. I don’t care, I just wanna see a good fight. If I had to pick, I’d say Kaplan showed way less than he was capable of, and is less prone to be effected by the mental ebbs and flows, Junie on the other hand comes off WAY more emotional but we have a better sense of what he can do. So I guess if Kaplan hangs tough Junie starts giving up points,but if Junie has gotten “his mind right” while back home, then I’ll give him the edge.Either can get caught.

I gotta go with Sam and say Nover is the best fighter I’ve never heard of. Got the makings of an MMA superstar thus far. I think this fight will be better than we all are predicting but Nover will prevail.

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]]> By: Grappo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/12/tuf-8-finale-preview-and-predictions/comment-page-1/#comment-59952 Grappo Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:22:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9938#comment-59952 I agree with Joey. Vinny won't get into a striking war with Bader. He doesn't want to mess up that pretty face, especially when he doesn't have to. I imagine him pulling guard like he did against Krysztof (sp? never seen so many Z's in a name) pretty quickly and either getting smothered by Bader the entire fight, or pulling off a sub. I'm going with the sub. Nover is going to demolish Escudero. I pick McDonald over Gouveia. He is always impressive, even in defeat, and I can't say the same for Gouveia. Johnson will either get his revenge, or get a replay of his last fight. Junie and Kaplan.. they are both unlikeable and unimpressive. With conditioning and a clear head I think Junie takes it though. He's making me root for Kaplan, and that's another reason for me not to like him. I agree with Joey. Vinny won’t get into a striking war with Bader. He doesn’t want to mess up that pretty face, especially when he doesn’t have to. I imagine him pulling guard like he did against Krysztof (sp? never seen so many Z’s in a name) pretty quickly and either getting smothered by Bader the entire fight, or pulling off a sub. I’m going with the sub.

Nover is going to demolish Escudero.

I pick McDonald over Gouveia. He is always impressive, even in defeat, and I can’t say the same for Gouveia.

Johnson will either get his revenge, or get a replay of his last fight.

Junie and Kaplan.. they are both unlikeable and unimpressive. With conditioning and a clear head I think Junie takes it though. He’s making me root for Kaplan, and that’s another reason for me not to like him.

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]]> By: jizzeater@yahoo.com http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/12/tuf-8-finale-preview-and-predictions/comment-page-1/#comment-59920 jizzeater@yahoo.com Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:57:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9938#comment-59920 Kaplan gets rocked by Junie (look at him come weigh in) Junie is in shape and more focused then he has ever been. I am grand master Jizz non eater and I say that extra protien hurt Kaplin not helped him. Tom lawler will go down as well. Nover will beat effrain and Junie will jum the ring after his 30 second non ko ko of kaplin and whoop fainting feliepe Kaplan gets rocked by Junie (look at him come weigh in) Junie is in shape and more focused then he has ever been. I am grand master Jizz non eater and I say that extra protien hurt Kaplin not helped him.

Tom lawler will go down as well.

Nover will beat effrain and Junie will jum the ring after his 30 second non ko ko of kaplin and whoop fainting feliepe

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]]> By: Joey http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/12/tuf-8-finale-preview-and-predictions/comment-page-1/#comment-59912 Joey Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:26:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9938#comment-59912 Bader won't KO Vinny. Vinny will clinch if the standup is going bad and pull card and quickly sub Bader. Bader won’t KO Vinny. Vinny will clinch if the standup is going bad and pull card and quickly sub Bader.

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]]> By: portland mma http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/12/tuf-8-finale-preview-and-predictions/comment-page-1/#comment-59911 portland mma Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:11:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9938#comment-59911 I think Bader is going to win off of athleticism and heart. I think it will be an ugly stand up war and he'll wear Vinny out. Also Vinny doesn't like to be hit so if Bader can rock him it should help him break him, however if Vinny has the smallest opening on the ground its over. I think Phillipe is going to run through Efrian (even though I think Efrian could end up in the UFC). Anthony Rumble Johnson is going to win by KO to avenge the stitches in his eye. I think Wilson Gouivea is going to work the Athlete and I just hope somebody gets KO'd in the match between the drunken southern moron against the quasi intelligent pee drinker "who can't be knocked out." I honestly hate both of these guys, my dream would be if they both knocked each other out at the same time and i never heard there names again. I think Bader is going to win off of athleticism and heart. I think it will be an ugly stand up war and he’ll wear Vinny out. Also Vinny doesn’t like to be hit so if Bader can rock him it should help him break him, however if Vinny has the smallest opening on the ground its over. I think Phillipe is going to run through Efrian (even though I think Efrian could end up in the UFC). Anthony Rumble Johnson is going to win by KO to avenge the stitches in his eye. I think Wilson Gouivea is going to work the Athlete and I just hope somebody gets KO’d in the match between the drunken southern moron against the quasi intelligent pee drinker “who can’t be knocked out.” I honestly hate both of these guys, my dream would be if they both knocked each other out at the same time and i never heard there names again.

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]]> By: Hawkins http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/12/tuf-8-finale-preview-and-predictions/comment-page-1/#comment-59904 Hawkins Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:30:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9938#comment-59904 Call me insane, but I think the time back at his home gym will help Junie. I also think there's a possibility that knowing his UFC life is on the line might help as he's not surrounded by a bunch of people trying to take a job away from him (I think the paranoia contributed to his fragile mental state). Whether it translates to the ring is another story. Call me insane, but I think the time back at his home gym will help Junie. I also think there’s a possibility that knowing his UFC life is on the line might help as he’s not surrounded by a bunch of people trying to take a job away from him (I think the paranoia contributed to his fragile mental state).

Whether it translates to the ring is another story.

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]]> By: Leland Roling http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/12/tuf-8-finale-preview-and-predictions/comment-page-1/#comment-59903 Leland Roling Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:22:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9938#comment-59903 I expect either a Bader decision or Vinnie subbing him early. If Vinnie has to stand with Bader for any extended amount of time, he better have improved his striking significantly because the raw power Bader will be throwing could be tough to deal with... unless Bader comes in like Lambert and Vinnie possesses Gouveia striking. I expect either a Bader decision or Vinnie subbing him early. If Vinnie has to stand with Bader for any extended amount of time, he better have improved his striking significantly because the raw power Bader will be throwing could be tough to deal with… unless Bader comes in like Lambert and Vinnie possesses Gouveia striking.

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]]> By: hindsightufuk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/12/tuf-8-finale-preview-and-predictions/comment-page-1/#comment-59899 hindsightufuk Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:51:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9938#comment-59899 Magalhaes bjj looks awesome, im hoping its as good as it looks so far. If it is, i cant think of many light heavy weights who could hang with his submissions. The submissions were instant, as soon as he hit the ground he was in position, obviously the opponents werent elite on TUF, but still, the boy got skills. I never predict fights but i fully expect first round submission from him. Magalhaes bjj looks awesome, im hoping its as good as it looks so far. If it is, i cant think of many light heavy weights who could hang with his submissions. The submissions were instant, as soon as he hit the ground he was in position, obviously the opponents werent elite on TUF, but still, the boy got skills.
I never predict fights but i fully expect first round submission from him.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/12/tuf-8-finale-preview-and-predictions/comment-page-1/#comment-59898 mike wolfe Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:35:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=9938#comment-59898 Bader v. Magalhaes won't be a stand up war. Imo, Bader will chase Magalhaes around the ring while Magalhaes backpeddles and counters. There's always the chance of a lucky punch, but I'll bet that Bader eventually tires, the fight goes to the ground, and Magalhaes submits him. The question for Browning v. Kaplan is Browning's conditioning. He looked gassed in the first round of his TUF fights, and if they were only allowed to train two hours per day, it's easy to see why. If he's in shape, he KO's Kaplan for the second time Kaplan's never been KO'd. Bader v. Magalhaes won’t be a stand up war. Imo, Bader will chase Magalhaes around the ring while Magalhaes backpeddles and counters. There’s always the chance of a lucky punch, but I’ll bet that Bader eventually tires, the fight goes to the ground, and Magalhaes submits him.

The question for Browning v. Kaplan is Browning’s conditioning. He looked gassed in the first round of his TUF fights, and if they were only allowed to train two hours per day, it’s easy to see why. If he’s in shape, he KO’s Kaplan for the second time Kaplan’s never been KO’d.

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