Comments on: Jon Fitch possibly relegated to non-televised undercard for UFC 94 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 17:18:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: champ http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61330 champ Wed, 24 Dec 2008 23:59:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61330 who cares about jon fitch? The guy beat one good fighter and a bunch a no names and then got crushed by GSP. He's not fighting a popular fighter and he's at the bottom for title contention now. So why not give air time to someone they could market better. who cares about jon fitch? The guy beat one good fighter and a bunch a no names and then got crushed by GSP. He’s not fighting a popular fighter and he’s at the bottom for title contention now. So why not give air time to someone they could market better.

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61225 JOe K. Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:48:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61225 Oh well, the point is that there are things they could do to get more fights in on the main card. We are in agreement that the first 30 minutes of hype (looped!) is a waste of time. A fight could take place then. 6 fights would be guaranteed at that point. Don't even get me started on the WEC's last 2 cards! Oh well, the point is that there are things they could do to get more fights in on the main card.

We are in agreement that the first 30 minutes of hype (looped!) is a waste of time. A fight could take place then. 6 fights would be guaranteed at that point.

Don’t even get me started on the WEC’s last 2 cards!

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61215 Sergio Hernandez Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:22:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61215 "I really would not have a problem with the current format if they would change a few things. 1. cut down the repeats of the promo’s 2. Get to the fights within 20 minutes of the PPV start" I agree completely. But that would only increase the possibility of seeing more of the undercard fights. There's no way they would guarantee 7 fights. “I really would not have a problem with the current format if they would change a few things.
1. cut down the repeats of the promo’s
2. Get to the fights within 20 minutes of the PPV start”

I agree completely.

But that would only increase the possibility of seeing more of the undercard fights. There’s no way they would guarantee 7 fights.

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]]> By: JBAR http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61214 JBAR Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:54:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61214 I really would not have a problem with the current format if they would change a few things. 1. cut down the repeats of the promo's 2. Get to the fights within 20 minutes of the PPV start If you did just these 2 things you would have enough time to show at least 3 of the fights from the undercard on the average PPV. I don't mind watching the promo's I just don't want to see them 3 or 4 times. I really would not have a problem with the current format if they would change a few things.
1. cut down the repeats of the promo’s
2. Get to the fights within 20 minutes of the PPV start

If you did just these 2 things you would have enough time to show at least 3 of the fights from the undercard on the average PPV. I don’t mind watching the promo’s I just don’t want to see them 3 or 4 times.

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]]> By: Jeff L http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61211 Jeff L Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:44:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61211 LOL Sergio, that's good stuff. And you are totally right, some folks here have zero concept of presentation or the business end of a PPV. I'm sure BigDave would like it if the fighters were forced to sit ringside for the event so they can just jump in the cage at the immediate conclusion of the fight before theirs. LOL Sergio, that’s good stuff. And you are totally right, some folks here have zero concept of presentation or the business end of a PPV. I’m sure BigDave would like it if the fighters were forced to sit ringside for the event so they can just jump in the cage at the immediate conclusion of the fight before theirs.

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61209 Sergio Hernandez Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:15:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61209 "2. Speed up the fighter intros they take longer then half the fights do. 3. The ring entrances are so unnecesary just get in the cage. 4. Interviews after the fight, are you kidding me i dont give a shit who you wanna thank this is fighting not the grammys." Dumb, stupid, and dumb. What do you expect? Bruce Buffer: This guy is Wanderlei Silva, that guy is Quinton Jackson. The black dude behind me is Herb Dean. And I'm pretty sure the fighters' sponsors "give a shit" if they get namedropped after the fight. “2. Speed up the fighter intros they take longer then half the fights do.

3. The ring entrances are so unnecesary just get in the cage.

4. Interviews after the fight, are you kidding me i dont give a shit who you wanna thank this is fighting not the grammys.”

Dumb, stupid, and dumb.

What do you expect?

Bruce Buffer: This guy is Wanderlei Silva, that guy is Quinton Jackson. The black dude behind me is Herb Dean.

And I’m pretty sure the fighters’ sponsors “give a shit” if they get namedropped after the fight.

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]]> By: BigDave http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61205 BigDave Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:59:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61205 Ok here is the way things should be to make ufc events much better. 1. Get rid of All the hype videos they play they are useless and most ppl go to the bathroom or to get a snack while they are on. 2. Speed up the fighter intros they take longer then half the fights do. 3. The ring entrances are so unnecesary just get in the cage. 4. Interviews after the fight, are you kidding me i dont give a shit who you wanna thank this is fighting not the grammys. 5. The celebrity interviews again i dont care who they want to win or what movie or album they want to plug. There ive just saved everyone over an hour of crap now show the fights and just the fights everyone wins. Ok here is the way things should be to make ufc events much better.

1. Get rid of All the hype videos they play they are useless and most ppl go to the bathroom or to get a snack while they are on.

2. Speed up the fighter intros they take longer then half the fights do.

3. The ring entrances are so unnecesary just get in the cage.

4. Interviews after the fight, are you kidding me i dont give a shit who you wanna thank this is fighting not the grammys.

5. The celebrity interviews again i dont care who they want to win or what movie or album they want to plug.

There ive just saved everyone over an hour of crap now show the fights and just the fights everyone wins.

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61200 Sergio Hernandez Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:35:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61200 "To people saying 7 fights will never fit I don’t know if you’ve been purchasing the last few UFCs but they have put actual movie commercials in the PPV. Not actors in the crowd, not little scenes, but actual commercials." You don't think those companies pay HUGE bucks for that? 7 fights, with at the BARE minimum, 25 minutes devoted to each leaves 5 minutes of telecast. You fools DO realize that you can't just account for 15 minutes? There are intros, the corner time between rounds, and the post-fight. Throw a title fight into the mix and TWO and there's no possible way you could GUARANTEE seven fights. “To people saying 7 fights will never fit I don’t know if you’ve been purchasing the last few UFCs but they have put actual movie commercials in the PPV. Not actors in the crowd, not little scenes, but actual commercials.”

You don’t think those companies pay HUGE bucks for that?

7 fights, with at the BARE minimum, 25 minutes devoted to each leaves 5 minutes of telecast.

You fools DO realize that you can’t just account for 15 minutes? There are intros, the corner time between rounds, and the post-fight.

Throw a title fight into the mix and TWO and there’s no possible way you could GUARANTEE seven fights.

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]]> By: King James http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61196 King James Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:23:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61196 Its a simple equation. Fighters want their fights televised + fans want to see the fights= show more fights on tv. Thus sayeth the King Its a simple equation. Fighters want their fights televised + fans want to see the fights= show more fights on tv. Thus sayeth the King

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]]> By: OG UFC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61193 OG UFC Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:56:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61193 I remeber a few years ago when they would show every fight on the ppv card. once the main even was over you got to see all the undercards. so what use to be around 5 hours of fights has now become only 3 and for the same price. I feel like i'm getting ripped off! I remeber a few years ago when they would show every fight on the ppv card. once the main even was over you got to see all the undercards. so what use to be around 5 hours of fights has now become only 3 and for the same price. I feel like i’m getting ripped off!

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]]> By: Bmur http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61192 Bmur Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:49:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61192 Ok lots of good points and counter points here, but don't think for a second that the UFC isn't making a killing on the PPV revenus vs the cost to produce and put it on. IF they raised the price of PPV they would just be hurting themselves, with the current economy, it would be in their best interest to give the viewers more bang for their buck, and reward them long term by building more fans for more of their fighters. You could also trim down a lot of the fat from the shows including the half and hour of hype time, and cut down the time between bouts. So I'm pretty sure that they could get 7, at least 6 fights in their 3 hour time block every time. Hell, I've bought every PPV for the UFC in the last 4 years and can't remember one time when they've run the full time. Putting fitch on the undercard against a nobody to relieve pressure isn't what he is looking for, and I'd bet my house that he is going to win that fight convincingly. If this is punishment for Fitch having a backbone, and asking for a better deal about the video game rights, then thats fine, I can accept it. But I still think 7 fights on each card guaranteed should happen and happen now, the quality of the fights that are on these cards are worth putting them there, and you'll never have 7 go the distance. If you do Joe Silva and Dana have really dropped a bomb of a card, and like someone said earlier, they will a lot more to worry about, then just extending their PPV. Ok lots of good points and counter points here, but don’t think for a second that the UFC isn’t making a killing on the PPV revenus vs the cost to produce and put it on. IF they raised the price of PPV they would just be hurting themselves, with the current economy, it would be in their best interest to give the viewers more bang for their buck, and reward them long term by building more fans for more of their fighters. You could also trim down a lot of the fat from the shows including the half and hour of hype time, and cut down the time between bouts.

So I’m pretty sure that they could get 7, at least 6 fights in their 3 hour time block every time. Hell, I’ve bought every PPV for the UFC in the last 4 years and can’t remember one time when they’ve run the full time.

Putting fitch on the undercard against a nobody to relieve pressure isn’t what he is looking for, and I’d bet my house that he is going to win that fight convincingly.
If this is punishment for Fitch having a backbone, and asking for a better deal about the video game rights, then thats fine, I can accept it.

But I still think 7 fights on each card guaranteed should happen and happen now, the quality of the fights that are on these cards are worth putting them there, and you’ll never have 7 go the distance. If you do Joe Silva and Dana have really dropped a bomb of a card, and like someone said earlier, they will a lot more to worry about, then just extending their PPV.

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]]> By: Jonathan Hemming http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61190 Jonathan Hemming Tue, 23 Dec 2008 15:04:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61190 DANGIT! I wanted to see Akihiro Gono show Dave Caplan how it's done for an intro dance sequence. Then again, we'd need the Dragon Lady ring announcer from pride to make it truely complete. DANGIT!

I wanted to see Akihiro Gono show Dave Caplan how it’s done for an intro dance sequence.

Then again, we’d need the Dragon Lady ring announcer from pride to make it truely complete.

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]]> By: truth http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61184 truth Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:05:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61184 To people saying 7 fights will never fit I don't know if you've been purchasing the last few UFCs but they have put actual movie commercials in the PPV. Not actors in the crowd, not little scenes, but actual commercials. To people saying 7 fights will never fit I don’t know if you’ve been purchasing the last few UFCs but they have put actual movie commercials in the PPV. Not actors in the crowd, not little scenes, but actual commercials.

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]]> By: JJ Docker http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61182 JJ Docker Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:04:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61182 "derreck on December 22nd, 2008 10:18 pm FITCH WHO?" HAHAHA. If your being sarcastic that's a clever and funny response to this article. Serves Fitch right, he should have signed the deal like every other fighter. We all know what happens when fighters try and make a statement by standing up against White and UFC. They made this shit and so they control this shit. Simple as that. “derreck on December 22nd, 2008 10:18 pm

FITCH WHO?”

HAHAHA. If your being sarcastic that’s a clever and funny response to this article. Serves Fitch right, he should have signed the deal like every other fighter. We all know what happens when fighters try and make a statement by standing up against White and UFC. They made this shit and so they control this shit. Simple as that.

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61172 JOe K. Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:17:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61172 The reason the UFC doesn't like Japanese fighters is they are not "marketable". I'm sure they are against most non-english speaking fighters holding titles (sans Anderson Silva). Case and point Lyoto Machida. His brand of fighting and his personality is deemed not "marketable". Hence he is held back from a title shot until there is no other choice but to give him one. He was also not shown on the ultimate fighter. He trained with the guys and at Nog's birthday party he ate one of those eggs with duck fetus in it. That didn't get TV time! A number one contender on the show "Fear Factors" an weird ass egg and that doesn't get TV time!?!?!? The reason the UFC doesn’t like Japanese fighters is they are not “marketable”. I’m sure they are against most non-english speaking fighters holding titles (sans Anderson Silva).

Case and point Lyoto Machida. His brand of fighting and his personality is deemed not “marketable”.

Hence he is held back from a title shot until there is no other choice but to give him one.

He was also not shown on the ultimate fighter. He trained with the guys and at Nog’s birthday party he ate one of those eggs with duck fetus in it. That didn’t get TV time!

A number one contender on the show “Fear Factors” an weird ass egg and that doesn’t get TV time!?!?!?

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]]> By: Crazycanuck http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61171 Crazycanuck Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:05:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61171 If Dana white ended up in a house fire would anyone care? Just give the fans what they want and stop with the BS. If Dana white ended up in a house fire would anyone care?

Just give the fans what they want and stop with the BS.

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]]> By: Brandon http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61166 Brandon Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:05:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61166 They could fit extra fights in the telecast... if only they would stop wasting time showing promo reels for the main event over and over again and avoid interviewing people like Kevin James who nobody really cares about his opinion and if only they would stop showing sneak peeks of new movies.... They could fit extra fights in the telecast… if only they would stop wasting time showing promo reels for the main event over and over again and avoid interviewing people like Kevin James who nobody really cares about his opinion and if only they would stop showing sneak peeks of new movies….

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]]> By: Made Gilla http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61165 Made Gilla Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:53:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61165 Some of you get it and some of you don`t. It`s about DW punishing Fitch for the bad press the UFC got in regards to DW`s tantrum! DW promises THQ that everybody will sign the contract in order to get the video game deal and when THQ comes to collect, DW scrambles to get the athletes to sign their rights away. Fitch stood up and caused a stink. The possibility of not being televised hurts Fitchs` sponsorship earnings! MGilla, Padang Padang Bali Some of you get it and some of you don`t. It`s about DW punishing Fitch for the bad press the UFC got in regards to DW`s tantrum! DW promises THQ that everybody will sign the contract in order to get the video game deal and when THQ comes to collect, DW scrambles to get the athletes to sign their rights away. Fitch stood up and caused a stink. The possibility of not being televised hurts Fitchs` sponsorship earnings!
MGilla, Padang Padang Bali

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]]> By: Robert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61161 Robert Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:50:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61161 Another disgusting move by the UFC. Fitch the 2nd ranked WW in the world against a quality contender in Gono should without question be on the main card. This is another example of the UFC making a point to one of their fighters and also their lack of respect to Japanese MMA. The UFC has a clear bias against Japanese fighters. Another disgusting move by the UFC. Fitch the 2nd ranked WW in the world against a quality contender in Gono should without question be on the main card. This is another example of the UFC making a point to one of their fighters and also their lack of respect to Japanese MMA. The UFC has a clear bias against Japanese fighters.

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/22/jon-fitch-possibly-relegated-to-non-televised-undercard-for-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-61151 JOe K. Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:11:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10264#comment-61151 7 Fights would fit on a 3 hour telecast because the current telecasts are between 2 and 2.5 hrs. The first half hour is all hype on loop followed by live hype followed by intro. Its between 45 and 60 minutes before the first fight. They could use that half hour first hype session to show fights because they are already paying for it. Do I really care about the back story about brock lesnar and randy couture or Anderson Silva or Patrick Cote? Only for the first loop through the remaining duplicate loops are un-necessary. Besides if 7 main card fights went to decision in one card the UFC would have alot more problems then going over time on a PPV event. 7 Fights would fit on a 3 hour telecast because the current telecasts are between 2 and 2.5 hrs. The first half hour is all hype on loop followed by live hype followed by intro. Its between 45 and 60 minutes before the first fight.

They could use that half hour first hype session to show fights because they are already paying for it.

Do I really care about the back story about brock lesnar and randy couture or Anderson Silva or Patrick Cote? Only for the first loop through the remaining duplicate loops are un-necessary.

Besides if 7 main card fights went to decision in one card the UFC would have alot more problems then going over time on a PPV event.

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