Comments on: Dana White leaves door open for UFC return by Andrei Arlovski http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 18:00:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: kazja http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-62117 kazja Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:51:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-62117 ufc has only B-Level Heavyweights. And the only reason the UFC is on top is with the help from their corrupt NSAC/CSAC friends. ufc has only B-Level Heavyweights. And the only reason the UFC is on top is with the help from their corrupt NSAC/CSAC friends.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-62091 mike wolfe Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:28:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-62091 Who cares about Fedor's upcoming fight? Seriously. Compare the ppv buys to UFC 91 or 92, and ask the question. I predict the answer will be that very few people care. Why ask the question? Because if White and UFC only care about money (UFC is a for profit enterprise, so what else should they care about?), and Fedor's fight doesn't generate much revenue, why would they care about Fedor? Fedor should care about the UFC, because its marketing and brand recognition could make him recognizable outside MMA. And celebrity translates into money, which is why we have professional fighters. Who cares about Fedor’s upcoming fight? Seriously. Compare the ppv buys to UFC 91 or 92, and ask the question. I predict the answer will be that very few people care. Why ask the question? Because if White and UFC only care about money (UFC is a for profit enterprise, so what else should they care about?), and Fedor’s fight doesn’t generate much revenue, why would they care about Fedor? Fedor should care about the UFC, because its marketing and brand recognition could make him recognizable outside MMA. And celebrity translates into money, which is why we have professional fighters.

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]]> By: Mr.PIBB http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-62087 Mr.PIBB Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:04:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-62087 Stratas; If you seriously think that Lesnar, after only four fights,is good enough to beat Fedor, AA or Mir,then you are insane.He barely lasted 90 seconds against Mir be fore he was subbed. So what in the world makes you think that he would even stand half a chance in a fight w/Fedor?Fedor would Tim Sylvia his ass! It would be sick! You better hope your boy makes it out of the first round in his rematch with Mir. "That’s why he got his shot at the title and that’s why he is the biggest PPV draw of 2008 and most probably 2009!" No,no,no,my friend, He got his shot at the title BECAUSE of his drawing power.NOT because he earned it.Just watch Lesnar vs Herring and then watch Fedor vs Herring and you'll understand. Congrats to Lesnar for being champ of the second best competition in the world. High five!!!! Stratas; If you seriously think that Lesnar, after only four fights,is good enough to beat Fedor, AA or Mir,then you are insane.He barely lasted 90 seconds against Mir be fore he was subbed. So what in the world makes you think that he would even stand half a chance in a fight w/Fedor?Fedor would Tim Sylvia his ass! It would be sick! You better hope your boy makes it out of the first round in his rematch with Mir.

“That’s why he got his shot at the title and that’s why he is the biggest PPV draw of 2008 and most probably 2009!”

No,no,no,my friend, He got his shot at the title BECAUSE of his drawing power.NOT because he earned it.Just watch Lesnar vs Herring and then watch Fedor vs Herring and you’ll understand.

Congrats to Lesnar for being champ of the second best competition in the world. High five!!!!

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]]> By: G-DUB http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-62075 G-DUB Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:57:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-62075 Arlovski/Fedor is just a HUGE fight .... unfortunately it is under the wrong promotion and thus will not be seen (live) by a quarter as many fans as would have seen it under the UFC banner. I've got the under on +/- 150K buys. Arlovski/Fedor is just a HUGE fight …. unfortunately it is under the wrong promotion and thus will not be seen (live) by a quarter as many fans as would have seen it under the UFC banner. I’ve got the under on +/- 150K buys.

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]]> By: Abdullah the Butcher http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-62057 Abdullah the Butcher Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:45:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-62057 Geez Louise it doesnt take much to bait suckers into flame wars. This was about Arlovski being wanted back in the UFC. Do you really think White is being altruistic wanting AA back into the fold? What motivates the dude? MONEY With the dearth of credible heavyweights, White will have a hard time maximizing his return on Lesnar with B quality heavyweights. Good for AA for sticking his ground and at least trying to pursue his dreams. I am soooo lookng forward to his fight with Fedor in a few weeks.That is something the UFC would love to have but would never admit to. Geez Louise it doesnt take much to bait suckers into flame wars.

This was about Arlovski being wanted back in the UFC. Do you really think White is being altruistic wanting AA back into the fold?

What motivates the dude? MONEY With the dearth of credible heavyweights, White will have a hard time maximizing his return on Lesnar with B quality heavyweights.

Good for AA for sticking his ground and at least trying to pursue his dreams.

I am soooo lookng forward to his fight with Fedor in a few weeks.That is something the UFC would love to have but would never admit to.

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]]> By: ctownhood http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-62051 ctownhood Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:15:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-62051 Why does everyone think Fedor fights chumps? Here's a laundry list of people he has beat: Heath Herring Renato Sobral Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (2X) Kazuyuki Fujita Mark Coleman (2X) Kevin Randleman Cro Cop (when he was actually good) Mark Hunt Matt Lindland Tim Sylvia Why does everyone think Fedor fights chumps? Here’s a laundry list of people he has beat:
Heath Herring
Renato Sobral
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (2X)
Kazuyuki Fujita
Mark Coleman (2X)
Kevin Randleman
Cro Cop (when he was actually good)
Mark Hunt
Matt Lindland
Tim Sylvia

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]]> By: Stratas http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-62039 Stratas Tue, 30 Dec 2008 12:26:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-62039 Mr Pibb; since we're talking about heavyweights here, I thought it appropriate to share my thoughts on Brock Lesnar and the overall heavyweight landscape. Is Brock Lesnar a major draw for the UFC, hell yeah he is and why? Because even after only 4 fights in his MMA career there is not a heavyweight in the world, and that includes Fedor, Arlovski and yes Frank Mir that Brock Lesnar could not defeat today. That's why he got his shot at the title and that's why he is the biggest PPV draw of 2008 and most probably 2009! Mr Pibb; since we’re talking about heavyweights here, I thought it appropriate to share my thoughts on Brock Lesnar and the overall heavyweight landscape.

Is Brock Lesnar a major draw for the UFC, hell yeah he is and why? Because even after only 4 fights in his MMA career there is not a heavyweight in the world, and that includes Fedor, Arlovski and yes Frank Mir that Brock Lesnar could not defeat today.

That’s why he got his shot at the title and that’s why he is the biggest PPV draw of 2008 and most probably 2009!

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]]> By: Mr.PIBB http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-62037 Mr.PIBB Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:37:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-62037 Stratas: Nobody on this post has said one word about Brock Lesnar.So ,judging by your love for Lesnar and professional wrestlers, I would say that you either are his agent or his love child.Either way, his nuts need to be removed from your chin.I am not denying the guys talent or his credentials, but Jesus Christ man, he has accomplished nothing as far as an mma career outside of beating Couture.Even you have to admit that Lesnar, being 1-1in the UFC, hardly deserved a shot at the title when he got it.Dana White saw dollar signs as soon as Couture returned and he booked a freakshow instead of a deserving contender for Couture's return.Good on him for winning but I need to see more before I start showering him with praise.For now, the UFC has its cash cow and the teet will get milked. Stratas: Nobody on this post has said one word about Brock Lesnar.So ,judging by your love for Lesnar and professional wrestlers, I would say that you either are his agent or his love child.Either way, his nuts need to be removed from your chin.I am not denying the guys talent or his credentials, but Jesus Christ man, he has accomplished nothing as far as an mma career outside of beating Couture.Even you have to admit that Lesnar, being 1-1in the UFC, hardly deserved a shot at the title when he got it.Dana White saw dollar signs as soon as Couture returned and he booked a freakshow instead of a deserving contender for Couture’s return.Good on him for winning but I need to see more before I start showering him with praise.For now, the UFC has its cash cow and the teet will get milked.

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]]> By: Stratas http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-62030 Stratas Tue, 30 Dec 2008 09:31:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-62030 For all you Brock Lesnar haters and "MMA purists", Brock Lesnar is the current UFC Heavyweight Champion and at the age of 31, this 6'3" 265lb monster is the future for the Heavyweight division in any MMA organisation. He is a a four-time All-American, two-time Big Ten Champion and NCAA heavyweight wrestling champion. His wrestling creditentials are on par with any heavyweight out there, including the Hall of Famer whom Lesnar decisively defeated at UFC 91 Randy Couture. Even the "best pound for pound fighter in the world" Fedor Emelianenko has taken notice of the "Next Big Thing", deciding to issue the champ with a challenge at the expense of Captain America. Yet Lesnar receives an unjust amount of criticism and why? Simply put, because he came from the WWE. With his impressive win over Couture, Lesnar proved to the world that he deserved to be not only in the UFC but after only his 4th pro MMA fight, he deserved to be in the main event fighting for the biggest prize in the heavyweight division, period! Pro wrestling might not be "real" but those athletes and especially the likes of Brock Lesnar and Bobby Lashley are the real deal. A younger and healthier Kurt Angle (Olympic Gold Medalist in wrestling and training partner of Mark Coleman)would also be competitive in either the heavyweight or light heavyweight division. In addition these "fake fighters" from the world of professional wrestling are huge draw cards for any organisation they compete in, whether it be in the MMA world or WWE / TNA worlds. Just look at the buyrates for the 3 events that Brock Lesnar has been a part of. Lesnar’s 2.2 million buys over three fights made him the most-watched PPV fighter in 2008. His total was the second highest total in UFC history, trailing only Tito Ortiz, who did 2.25 million in headlining three events in 2006. And yes, I am a fan of pro wrestling but I am a fan of MMA as well. But unlike the "purists" out there, I prefer to concentrate on the actual talent of the fighters and whether or not they can go in the octagon or ring. I couldn't care less about whether or not they came from an "entertainment" background, nor should any other fan. Brock Lesnar is good for the world of MMA, very good in fact. He has brought new fans to the sport and he will carry his fair share of the success of the UFC on his broad shoulders for years to come. For all you Brock Lesnar haters and “MMA purists”,

Brock Lesnar is the current UFC Heavyweight Champion and at the age of 31, this 6’3″ 265lb monster is the future for the Heavyweight division in any MMA organisation. He is a a four-time All-American, two-time Big Ten Champion and NCAA heavyweight wrestling champion.

His wrestling creditentials are on par with any heavyweight out there, including the Hall of Famer whom Lesnar decisively defeated at UFC 91 Randy Couture. Even the “best pound for pound fighter in the world” Fedor Emelianenko has taken notice of the “Next Big Thing”, deciding to issue the champ with a challenge at the expense of Captain America.

Yet Lesnar receives an unjust amount of criticism and why? Simply put, because he came from the WWE. With his impressive win over Couture, Lesnar proved to the world that he deserved to be not only in the UFC but after only his 4th pro MMA fight, he deserved to be in the main event fighting for the biggest prize in the heavyweight division, period!

Pro wrestling might not be “real” but those athletes and especially the likes of Brock Lesnar and Bobby Lashley are the real deal. A younger and healthier Kurt Angle (Olympic Gold Medalist in wrestling and training partner of Mark Coleman)would also be competitive in either the heavyweight or light heavyweight division.

In addition these “fake fighters” from the world of professional wrestling are huge draw cards for any organisation they compete in, whether it be in the MMA world or WWE / TNA worlds. Just look at the buyrates for the 3 events that Brock Lesnar has been a part of. Lesnar’s 2.2 million buys over three fights made him the most-watched PPV fighter in 2008. His total was the second highest total in UFC history, trailing only Tito Ortiz, who did 2.25 million in headlining three events in 2006.

And yes, I am a fan of pro wrestling but I am a fan of MMA as well. But unlike the “purists” out there, I prefer to concentrate on the actual talent of the fighters and whether or not they can go in the octagon or ring. I couldn’t care less about whether or not they came from an “entertainment” background, nor should any other fan. Brock Lesnar is good for the world of MMA, very good in fact. He has brought new fans to the sport and he will carry his fair share of the success of the UFC on his broad shoulders for years to come.

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]]> By: HulkSmash http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-62019 HulkSmash Tue, 30 Dec 2008 07:28:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-62019 Go CRO-COP Go CRO-COP

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]]> By: marko http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-62018 marko Tue, 30 Dec 2008 06:52:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-62018 I totally agree, Fedor is the best and always will be. you talk about Mir putting a beating on Nog, don't forget Fedor has technically never lost, Mir got ko'd by chums like Ian Freeman, Marcio Cruz and Brandon Vera, which I don't think any of them are top 10? or even 20/ I totally agree,

Fedor is the best and always will be.

you talk about Mir putting a beating on Nog, don’t forget Fedor has technically never lost, Mir got ko’d by chums like Ian Freeman, Marcio Cruz and Brandon Vera, which I don’t think any of them are top 10? or even 20/

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]]> By: Erik http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-61986 Erik Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:25:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-61986 Andrei just hasn't been the same since Sylvia beat him at UFC 59. As for the comments by Greg Fedor vs Nog.. Fedor basically pummeled Nog for 3 rounds each time they fought. Andrei just hasn’t been the same since Sylvia beat him at UFC 59.

As for the comments by Greg Fedor vs Nog.. Fedor basically pummeled Nog for 3 rounds each time they fought.

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]]> By: Robert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-61961 Robert Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:30:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-61961 Ian, I couldn't have said it better myself. Ian, I couldn’t have said it better myself.

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]]> By: Ian http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-61958 Ian Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:15:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-61958 Greg - Your response is fairly ignorant on many levels. You obviously weren't following the sport back when they fought, and yet, you talk about someone else not having a clue. In some circles they call that irony. Fedor fought Nog when he was in his absolute prime. At the time, he was considered fairly unbeatable. (Nog was a favorite in their first fight.) It has been a full 4 years since their last fight, and Nogs seen many wars since. He came in to the Mir fight in the worst shape I've ever seen him in. This is why you shouldn't rely on MMA math to bolster your positions. I remember before Affliction 1, and the fighter in question was Tim Sylvia, there was an equal number of people here saying that Sylvia was going to win then, also. Fedor is the absolute best MMA has to offer, and in my opinion, the best Mixed Martial Artist in the history of MMA. Greg – Your response is fairly ignorant on many levels. You obviously weren’t following the sport back when they fought, and yet, you talk about someone else not having a clue. In some circles they call that irony.

Fedor fought Nog when he was in his absolute prime. At the time, he was considered fairly unbeatable. (Nog was a favorite in their first fight.) It has been a full 4 years since their last fight, and Nogs seen many wars since. He came in to the Mir fight in the worst shape I’ve ever seen him in. This is why you shouldn’t rely on MMA math to bolster your positions.

I remember before Affliction 1, and the fighter in question was Tim Sylvia, there was an equal number of people here saying that Sylvia was going to win then, also.

Fedor is the absolute best MMA has to offer, and in my opinion, the best Mixed Martial Artist in the history of MMA.

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]]> By: KTru http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-61953 KTru Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:57:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-61953 Fedor beats AA easily and shows all the idiots out there(95% of those idiots post their dumb remarks here) that think his recent bouts have been against less-than-stellar competition is a fluke. Fedor proves he is on another level. Fedor would beat Mir in approximately same amount of time as Sylvia. Those idiots will still have something to hate on about Fedor. To those mindless responses to say I am on Fedor's nuts...... I am not, but I know who the Baddest Man in MMA is. Plain and simple, so come up with something original. Fedor beats AA easily and shows all the idiots out there(95% of those idiots post their dumb remarks here) that think his recent bouts have been against less-than-stellar competition is a fluke.
Fedor proves he is on another level.
Fedor would beat Mir in approximately same amount of time as Sylvia.

Those idiots will still have something to hate on about Fedor.

To those mindless responses to say I am on Fedor’s nuts…… I am not, but I know who the Baddest Man in MMA is. Plain and simple, so come up with something original.

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]]> By: Greg http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-61949 Greg Mon, 29 Dec 2008 20:36:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-61949 binners u say fedor " wooped " nogs - he won by decision twice - get your facts straight lol MIR knocked big nogs out ! you do the math frank mir is the best and most gifted heavyweight fighting today!!! fedor is AWESOME in his own right but for people to say mir would get thrashed have no clue what they are talking about binners u say fedor ” wooped ” nogs – he won by decision twice – get your facts straight lol MIR knocked big nogs out ! you do the math frank mir is the best and most gifted heavyweight fighting today!!! fedor is AWESOME in his own right but for people to say mir would get thrashed have no clue what they are talking about

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]]> By: Fred http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-61938 Fred Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:37:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-61938 We don't need for Dana to say Fedor is the best heavyweight. Fedor is the best heavyweight, period. As for Arlovski, he has always been a great fighter, and Dana is showing a rare moment of candor by admitting that the UFC didn't want to lose him. Affliction won't be around for much longer, so the UFC will have a chance to get Arlovski back. It would be great to see. We don’t need for Dana to say Fedor is the best heavyweight. Fedor is the best heavyweight, period.

As for Arlovski, he has always been a great fighter, and Dana is showing a rare moment of candor by admitting that the UFC didn’t want to lose him. Affliction won’t be around for much longer, so the UFC will have a chance to get Arlovski back. It would be great to see.

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]]> By: egad81 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-61937 egad81 Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:29:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-61937 I got AA beating Fedor... then bringing the wamma belt to the UFC WHAT? I got AA beating Fedor… then bringing the wamma belt to the UFC
WHAT?

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]]> By: Robert http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-61933 Robert Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:15:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-61933 Dana is basically saying he didn't want to let Arlovski go in case Arlovski lands that fatal blow that puts down Fedor which isn't impossible. Then he can put on a positive spin for the UFC. When he says "I'll never say Fedor is the best until he fights the best on a consistent basis" Translation I'll never say Fedor is the best till he's in the UFC. Dana is basically saying he didn’t want to let Arlovski go in case Arlovski lands that fatal blow that puts down Fedor which isn’t impossible. Then he can put on a positive spin for the UFC. When he says “I’ll never say Fedor is the best until he fights the best on a consistent basis” Translation I’ll never say Fedor is the best till he’s in the UFC.

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]]> By: Grappo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2008/12/29/dana-white-leaves-door-open-for-ufc-return-by-andrei-arlovski/comment-page-1/#comment-61930 Grappo Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:03:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10507#comment-61930 there's no shame losing to Fedor (which he will.) I'd love AA back in the UFC as well. there’s no shame losing to Fedor (which he will.) I’d love AA back in the UFC as well.

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