Comments on: Dana White talks about Nogueira’s defeat; claims former champ suffered from Staph infection

By: EddieLBarker

EddieLBarker — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:28:25 +0000

Its been a while since i watched the fight, but from what i remember Mir really only stuck with a cross/uppercut/hook combination from his southpaw stance. Nog ate a lot of those uppercuts and didn’t use much defense outside of just back peddling. Mir also did a good job standing himself up and avoiding nog’s ground game. I felt mir just came in with a good game plan that night.

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By: matthew

matthew — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:56:57 +0000

After returning from holidays i was most disappointed to see the replay of this fight. I must, however, eat my words (as i said i would) and congratulate Frank Mir. Much improved standup, fantastic use of multiple punch combos and a different fighter on his feet. I truly am shocked and retract all my statements about him having no chance.

Having said that, Nog was off with the fairies. A mere shade of the Nog i have seen over the years and perhaps the calls for a step back from competition are warranted.

JBAR i also completely agree. Dana has to find some reason to excuse Nog’s dismal performance or else his next fight (possibly against randy) will not reach projected PPV/ticket sales targets. All round, Nog would have been better to forgo this fight when he new of any infection. A reschedule could’ve been made (although halting the unification of the HW belt slightly). But i like many others feel Nog was simply outclassed by a better fighter and excuses are now being made.

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By: babalu

babalu — Sun, 04 Jan 2009 00:12:51 +0000

yap jbar youre ryt.

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By: JBAR

JBAR — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 17:43:23 +0000

It doesn’t have anything to do with how big the opponent is, Nog just takes alot of punishment in his fights. 220 lb Keith Hackney did not take much punishment against 600 lb plus Emanual Yarborough. Royce Gracie fought alot of guys much bigger than him and did not absorb that kind of punishment. Nog’s ability to take a punch causes him to place less emphasis on defense, it’s just his style.
As far as Dana and the Staph infection part, as bad as Nog looked he needs an excuse to help keep people interested in his next fight. Not the hard core fans but the ones new to the sport or the casual fan. Need to keep them interested so they will buy the next PPV.

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By: glock

glock — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:22:05 +0000

What about Kimo / Gracie ? I can’t get enough of that “freak show”……

I’m with darkmetal, though there ARE regulations.
Evolution of the HW Div. to bigger, stronger, faster… That’s the way it goes.

Mir looked phenomenal, Nog looked bad, and Mir is gonna face a big, fast, scary, powerful, guy with an 81″ reach…

Mir is not gonna have a fun night, however it goes, but I see him being overwhelmed again.

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By: babalu

babalu — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:00:47 +0000

dana is a bitch,we always know him as a rubbish talker,greedy bastard!!!

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By: darkmetal

darkmetal — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 13:22:45 +0000

There is no way to “fudge” weigh-ins, as it is part of the regulatory process.
And since Lesnar walks around at about 276 or so, the cut for him is probably not that hard. I suspect there is alot of water in that big body;)

If you want to blame anyone for going in to face Lesnar, blame guys who sneak over the lower limit like Couture (not that he is complaining) only to face true heavyweights.

Mir better have a great gameplan against Lesnar, or it will be a very hard fight for him.

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By: King Solomon

King Solomon — Sat, 03 Jan 2009 06:19:02 +0000

Brothers they stopped that fight waaaaaay to early. They Let the Griffen pounding go for wayy longer. and what about the kongo fight. al turk took a beating befor they stopped it.

Fuck Herb dean and the ufc with there ass kissin mir.

Nog wouldnt beat him in the 4th round.

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By: kentuckyfightfan

kentuckyfightfan — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:21:04 +0000

Uh yes freak fights. In case you don’t understand…Lesner has to make weight at 265. So someone being outweighed the way Sapp did Nog will never happen!

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By: yuushi

yuushi — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:28:28 +0000

LoneWolf said:

Pride had “freak shows”!!? Uh, hello Dana, WTF do you think Lesnar is?!?

A talented former Collegiate Wrestler who made the 265 lb weight limit for Heavyweight.

A far cry from the freakshows like the 7′ L.A. Giant (whose first fight ever in MMA was in PRIDE), 7′ 4″ Giant Silva (ditto), Zuluzinho, etc.; who couldn’t make the cut to any weight class but Super Heavyweight (since there’s no limit on that) unless they cut off a leg or something.

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By: akartis

akartis — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 14:30:12 +0000

Ok, Nog got rocked plain and simple. Mir won the fight and there is no doubting that. They are both excellent fighters and I don’t think that anyone would deny that. We all know that fighters have good days and bad. What gets me are the comments that Dana White proceeded to make. Especially the comments on Pride ruining fighters because of no weight class. Are you freaking kidding me? Some of you have mentioned the Lesnar vs. Coture fight. This is a prime example of Dana being a complete slime ball who is turning the UFC into the WWE. I am not disputing that Lesnar won. What I am disputing is the 265 lbs. he supposedly weighed in at. Are you kidding me? You would have to be a blind retarded monkey to believe that he weighed in at 265 lbs. There is no way in hell that freak has ever weighed in at 265 lbs. and I do not understand why someone has not contested the fact. I am really starting to feel like the UFC is turning into the WWE.

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By: darkmetal

darkmetal — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:16:36 +0000

The problem that I keep noticing is that people are completely disregarding how poor Nog looked in this fight. It wasn’t just that Mir looked great, which I agree he did look much better in his striking, but that Nog looked overweight and slow.

Now when you compare the Nog you saw in this fight with Brock Lesnar, you are talking about 2 different animals. While Nog was slow, lumbering, and seemed a bit “out of it” Lesnar will come out blasting and utilize his superior power, speed and endurance over Mir. And if Mir thinks he can catch him in a sub all that easily next time, he better not bet his house on it.

Mir’s best chance might be to evade, leg kick to reduce Lesnar’s speed and mobility, then launch his boxing strategy. The problem is that Lesnar is so damn fast to begin with, I don’t see that he can evade him easily.

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By: aaron

aaron — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:19:34 +0000

oh yeah and why does everybody bash dana white if it wernt for him we wouldnt be watching the great fights we see, you’d rather see k1 over ufc? gimmie a break…better yet give dana white a break

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By: aaron

aaron — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:16:44 +0000

i would have let it go for a few more seconds if he didnt defend call it, but nog is notorious for getting out of stuff like that btw herb dean is my fav ref

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By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 06:23:02 +0000

Dana White is the most classless CEO I’ve ever seen. He only cares about two things: Brock Lesnar, and his own bank account. He only cares about Lesnar because he adds to the latter.

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By: Brandon

Brandon — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 04:18:14 +0000

Thank you glock….

I rewatched the fight again and clearly he lost because he was outclassed. Rogan kept bringing up the fact that Nog was boxing absolutely poorly and that he could minimize or avoid any damage had he stepped laterally instead of just steping forward continually into Mir’s punches (and his range).

Staph infection “may” have played a part had it been a long grueling affair where his energy was drained… the only thing Dana may be correct on is that Nog is punch drunk and that after the first uppercut his brain was scrambled and this was why he was fighting so poorly. But I doubt this very much since he had more then enough time to recover…

What I think is Nog was over confident and over rated on his striking game… everyone keeps mentioning how he trained with the cuban boxing team with his bro and how both are great boxers…. yet correct me if I’m wrong Nog has been clocked and nearly KO’d his last 3 fights and Little Nog was Knocked clean out by a wild puncher (Sokodjou)…. I think the Nog’s are way over rated on their boxing and stand up skills….

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By: colin61

colin61 — Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:46:40 +0000

Frank Mir is always underestimated. Lets not forget this guy had a horrific accident 3 years ago and has fought his way back. To me it looks like he now has his conditioning sorted and he continues to grow and grow.

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By: NJMMAFan

NJMMAFan — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:27:24 +0000

True but most fighters are looking out for their lively hood, if dana is just speculating he was sick, then its inappropriate for him to comment. If he didnt know till after the fight, maybe nog kept it from them so he could fight and earn a check. Maybe nog did what shamrock didnt and decide to put on a show regardless of his physical state to make money and entertain the fans. JMO

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By: EamonJGod

EamonJGod — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:55:03 +0000

It’s not up to Dana, Nog was cleared to fight by the athletic commission so he couldn’t have been that bad if he wasn’t on suspension during TUF or his training camp leading up to the fight.

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By: NJMMAFAN

NJMMAFAN — Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:20:11 +0000

Possibly more offensive than any controversy caused by dana is the Clarence Dolloway adverts all over my screen

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