Comments on: Dana White confirms interest in EliteXC fighters http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/05/dana-white-confirms-interest-in-elitexc-fighters/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:48:23 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: screwface http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/05/dana-white-confirms-interest-in-elitexc-fighters/comment-page-1/#comment-62926 screwface Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:31:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10653#comment-62926 gina carano in ufc would make me the happiest fan alive. i was not a fan of the idea of womens mma at first maybe because of chauvinism not really sure. but thats the 1 thing i credit elitexc with most. the women fight with heart,style, and ferocity and a lot of the male fighters could learn a lot from watching their battles. gina is the top womens fighter on the planet imo, so signing her would guarantee womens mma the respect they deserve. ginas fights were often the main highlights from those saturday night fight events. i really miss the action and heres to hope ill see it again in the best mma org around. it makes perfect sense. another note i know nick diaz is the scapegoat of mma and doesnt have a lot of fans, but i really like the guy and he always brings it, id like to see him back in the ufc too and i know nick wants back in. maybe most dont appreciate his attitude and hes certainly no ambassador for the sport, but dammit i love to see him fight :p gina carano in ufc would make me the happiest fan alive. i was not a fan of the idea of womens mma at first maybe because of chauvinism not really sure. but thats the 1 thing i credit elitexc with most. the women fight with heart,style, and ferocity and a lot of the male fighters could learn a lot from watching their battles. gina is the top womens fighter on the planet imo, so signing her would guarantee womens mma the respect they deserve. ginas fights were often the main highlights from those saturday night fight events. i really miss the action and heres to hope ill see it again in the best mma org around. it makes perfect sense. another note i know nick diaz is the scapegoat of mma and doesnt have a lot of fans, but i really like the guy and he always brings it, id like to see him back in the ufc too and i know nick wants back in. maybe most dont appreciate his attitude and hes certainly no ambassador for the sport, but dammit i love to see him fight :p

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]]> By: Michael http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/05/dana-white-confirms-interest-in-elitexc-fighters/comment-page-1/#comment-62871 Michael Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:35:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10653#comment-62871 bellatore fc has fejiao bellatore fc has fejiao

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]]> By: Tyler http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/05/dana-white-confirms-interest-in-elitexc-fighters/comment-page-1/#comment-62824 Tyler Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:31:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10653#comment-62824 "mrw420" First of all their are no guaranteed contracts in the UFC so people need to stop that. They can drop you from a fight contract whenever they feel like it. Also the whole destroy your competition thing is not good for the consumer you and I as fight fans. People should no by now the way they're screwed by big business on a daily basis that the more competition there is the better. If enough promotions are successful they'd have no choice but to cross promote with one another to put on fights fans want to see. There is nothing but positives in that as far as I can see. “mrw420″ First of all their are no guaranteed contracts in the UFC so people need to stop that. They can drop you from a fight contract whenever they feel like it.
Also the whole destroy your competition thing is not good for the consumer you and I as fight fans. People should no by now the way they’re screwed by big business on a daily basis that the more competition there is the better. If enough promotions are successful they’d have no choice but to cross promote with one another to put on fights fans want to see. There is nothing but positives in that as far as I can see.

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]]> By: mrw420 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/05/dana-white-confirms-interest-in-elitexc-fighters/comment-page-1/#comment-62822 mrw420 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:09:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10653#comment-62822 mikemick: You would take a job you were guaranteed to lose after 1 year instead of a stable one? That doesn't make sense to me. In 4 years you would have made over the 100,000 that would have been burnt through by then. I don't get people complaining about "UFC wanting to take over" (not that you did). The WWE basically runs wrestling; no other organization comes close. The UFC's business model is basically the same; destroy all other competition and keep your fighters under an exclusive contract. You can't build up stars if they are fighting for numerous organizations all at once, not to mention the risk factor of serious injury. Wow, off topic... : ) mikemick:

You would take a job you were guaranteed to lose after 1 year instead of a stable one? That doesn’t make sense to me. In 4 years you would have made over the 100,000 that would have been burnt through by then.

I don’t get people complaining about “UFC wanting to take over” (not that you did). The WWE basically runs wrestling; no other organization comes close. The UFC’s business model is basically the same; destroy all other competition and keep your fighters under an exclusive contract. You can’t build up stars if they are fighting for numerous organizations all at once, not to mention the risk factor of serious injury.

Wow, off topic… : )

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]]> By: mikemick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/05/dana-white-confirms-interest-in-elitexc-fighters/comment-page-1/#comment-62817 mikemick Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:41:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10653#comment-62817 @luis - That is exactly why it wasn't a waste of their time. If an organization is stupid enough to pay you more than you are worth, I would assume you would be stupid not to take it, right? @lyquid - I think we are beyond the Boxing vs MMA deal. Boxers have already conceded that they are two completely different sports, and no boxer would last 1 minute in a MMA cage. Thanks for calling me stupid. Of course, I called a public figure that is making millions of dollars a year stupid, and you called me - a blogger that would sh@t himself if he made $100k a year stupid. I guess that's fair. @kentuckyfightfan - Wow, let me defend... first off, I have had a job (and currently am holding one). And if someone said, hey we'll pay you $100k a year, but we might be out of business next year,and another company said we'll pay you $30k a year, and we'll definitely be in business next year, I am going for the $100k. Take the money and run! Especially in something is liquid as sports. One minute you are hot, the next you are not. Take the money while you can, where you can. The truth is the UFC didn't give 2 sh@ts about Gina Carano until she gained fame on EliteXC. EliteXC (ok, and Gladiators) has catapulted her stardom to a new level. Do you think it was a waste of time for her to be in Elite? Nope. She raised her value tremendously, and put her on the radar of the UFC, an organization that said they would never have female fighters! Was it a waste of time for Tim Sylvia to abandon his UFC contract and fight for Affliction? Nope. He got his butt beat in 45 seconds or whatever, and made himself $800k richer! Not a waste of time. Even if Affliction folds tomorrow and Sylvia never fights for them again, it wasn't a waste of time. He doesn't have to fight again, if he invests his money properly. The bottom line is this, there is money to be made, and if you can get it outside of the UFC, then it isn't a waste of time to pursue it. If you have aspirations of being the best in the world...then great, go to the UFC. @luis – That is exactly why it wasn’t a waste of their time. If an organization is stupid enough to pay you more than you are worth, I would assume you would be stupid not to take it, right?

@lyquid – I think we are beyond the Boxing vs MMA deal. Boxers have already conceded that they are two completely different sports, and no boxer would last 1 minute in a MMA cage. Thanks for calling me stupid. Of course, I called a public figure that is making millions of dollars a year stupid, and you called me – a blogger that would sh@t himself if he made $100k a year stupid. I guess that’s fair.

@kentuckyfightfan – Wow, let me defend… first off, I have had a job (and currently am holding one). And if someone said, hey we’ll pay you $100k a year, but we might be out of business next year,and another company said we’ll pay you $30k a year, and we’ll definitely be in business next year, I am going for the $100k. Take the money and run! Especially in something is liquid as sports. One minute you are hot, the next you are not. Take the money while you can, where you can.

The truth is the UFC didn’t give 2 sh@ts about Gina Carano until she gained fame on EliteXC. EliteXC (ok, and Gladiators) has catapulted her stardom to a new level. Do you think it was a waste of time for her to be in Elite? Nope. She raised her value tremendously, and put her on the radar of the UFC, an organization that said they would never have female fighters!

Was it a waste of time for Tim Sylvia to abandon his UFC contract and fight for Affliction? Nope. He got his butt beat in 45 seconds or whatever, and made himself $800k richer! Not a waste of time. Even if Affliction folds tomorrow and Sylvia never fights for them again, it wasn’t a waste of time. He doesn’t have to fight again, if he invests his money properly.

The bottom line is this, there is money to be made, and if you can get it outside of the UFC, then it isn’t a waste of time to pursue it. If you have aspirations of being the best in the world…then great, go to the UFC.

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]]> By: Sky http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/05/dana-white-confirms-interest-in-elitexc-fighters/comment-page-1/#comment-62796 Sky Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:18:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10653#comment-62796 where the heck is rafeal fejiao??? That guy was a wrecking machine. where the heck is rafeal fejiao??? That guy was a wrecking machine.

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]]> By: Tyler http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/05/dana-white-confirms-interest-in-elitexc-fighters/comment-page-1/#comment-62778 Tyler Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:40:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10653#comment-62778 There are NO guaranteed number of fights in the UFC. Just ask Jon Fitch. They can drop fighters anytime they want from their contracts without notice. That's the way they structure contracts. Not a stable work environment if you ask me. There are NO guaranteed number of fights in the UFC. Just ask Jon Fitch. They can drop fighters anytime they want from their contracts without notice. That’s the way they structure contracts. Not a stable work environment if you ask me.

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]]> By: kentuckyfightfan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/05/dana-white-confirms-interest-in-elitexc-fighters/comment-page-1/#comment-62774 kentuckyfightfan Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:06:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10653#comment-62774 Wow...have you ever had a job? Let's see...a one time payout...or a deal with an established company w/who you'd be guaranteed a certain number of fights and recieve money from your name being on merchandise...hmm. So you're telling me Kimbo Slice is worthy of a $500k payout for a loss? Not his fault for trying to make money...but any company that pulls tricks like that is just plain business nonsense. Wow…have you ever had a job? Let’s see…a one time payout…or a deal with an established company w/who you’d be guaranteed a certain number of fights and recieve money from your name being on merchandise…hmm. So you’re telling me Kimbo Slice is worthy of a $500k payout for a loss? Not his fault for trying to make money…but any company that pulls tricks like that is just plain business nonsense.

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]]> By: Tyler http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/05/dana-white-confirms-interest-in-elitexc-fighters/comment-page-1/#comment-62755 Tyler Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:33:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10653#comment-62755 Then you don't know what is. But you do know how to stroke Dana White and Zuffa. Then you don’t know what is. But you do know how to stroke Dana White and Zuffa.

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]]> By: kentuckyfightfan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/05/dana-white-confirms-interest-in-elitexc-fighters/comment-page-1/#comment-62753 kentuckyfightfan Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:24:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10653#comment-62753 hmm...So it makes more sense to go fight for an oranization that may fold overnight then to sign with a company who is established and has the resources to keep you fighting 2-3 times a year? Get real! Just ask the EliteXC fighters how they found out they didn't have a job anymore. Kaitlin Young said she found out on the internet. So wasting their time...yes. Here these fighters were preparing to fight and get paid...only to find out right before the fights that the company has closed shop...if that's not a waste of time, I don't know what is. hmm…So it makes more sense to go fight for an oranization that may fold overnight then to sign with a company who is established and has the resources to keep you fighting 2-3 times a year? Get real! Just ask the EliteXC fighters how they found out they didn’t have a job anymore. Kaitlin Young said she found out on the internet. So wasting their time…yes. Here these fighters were preparing to fight and get paid…only to find out right before the fights that the company has closed shop…if that’s not a waste of time, I don’t know what is.

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