Comments on: 5 Oz. of Pain Presents: The DUEL http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/06/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-29/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 20:16:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: nate http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/06/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-29/comment-page-1/#comment-63245 nate Sun, 11 Jan 2009 05:55:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10680#comment-63245 Aoki has SICK submissions. All I know is I'd like to see the fight vs BJ Penn. Really I guess I just like to see him fight period.. he is crazy. I like the crazy guys that just got for what they are best at. Manhoef is like that, he said "I only go for the KO" and has 80% KOs or something sick like that. crazy! Really the statement about Rashad should be: Rashad would be making the right choice to retire in 2009 because you dont want to see him fight. True I dont want to see him lose more than I just dont want to see him. Sorry Rashad. I know you have no loses and some spectacular knockouts. But I hate watching you fight. Aoki has SICK submissions. All I know is I’d like to see the fight vs BJ Penn. Really I guess I just like to see him fight period.. he is crazy.
I like the crazy guys that just got for what they are best at.
Manhoef is like that, he said “I only go for the KO” and has 80% KOs or something sick like that. crazy!

Really the statement about Rashad should be:
Rashad would be making the right choice to retire in 2009 because you dont want to see him fight.
True

I dont want to see him lose more than I just dont want to see him. Sorry Rashad. I know you have no loses and some spectacular knockouts. But I hate watching you fight.

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]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/06/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-29/comment-page-1/#comment-63212 darkmetal Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:09:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10680#comment-63212 I don't see how Mir will be better at handling Lesnar's power and speed than last time, as he faced a slow and overweight Nog in his last fight. It is very possible that Lesnar will take him down and knee him in the side and break his ribs, then KO him when he finally stands up. Evans will probably lose if he faces Machida, but remains the eternal underdog even as Champion. Nog may have lost some of his abilities from injury in Pride, but he mainly lost against Mir because he came in out of shape. I don’t see how Mir will be better at handling Lesnar’s power and speed than last time, as he faced a slow and overweight Nog in his last fight. It is very possible that Lesnar will take him down and knee him in the side and break his ribs, then KO him when he finally stands up.

Evans will probably lose if he faces Machida, but remains the eternal underdog even as Champion.

Nog may have lost some of his abilities from injury in Pride, but he mainly lost against Mir because he came in out of shape.

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]]> By: jason http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/06/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-29/comment-page-1/#comment-63062 jason Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:47:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10680#comment-63062 aoki is a freak of nature and his bjj is like nothing i have ever seen because he can litterally employ it in the air while taking the back or working the neck,while jumping up to obtain these positions, he fights in the toughest lightweight division in the world and those guys routinly beat each other, aoki could beat penn, it is not that improbable, he just tore ligaments in alvarezs foot, i really doubt that bj penn would bee on the p4p list if he was fighting in that division. aoki is a freak of nature and his bjj is like nothing i have ever seen because he can litterally employ it in the air while taking the back or working the neck,while jumping up to obtain these positions, he fights in the toughest lightweight division in the world and those guys routinly beat each other, aoki could beat penn, it is not that improbable, he just tore ligaments in alvarezs foot, i really doubt that bj penn would bee on the p4p list if he was fighting in that division.

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]]> By: benkordus http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/06/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-29/comment-page-1/#comment-62960 benkordus Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:23:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10680#comment-62960 brock almost beat mir the first time...really?..almost?? guess what? MIR WON! brock will lose to mir, then lose to shane carwin...if the UFC has the balls to make that match up. yours, benji brock almost beat mir the first time…really?..almost??

guess what? MIR WON! brock will lose to mir, then lose to shane carwin…if the UFC has the balls to make that match up.

yours,
benji

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]]> By: Tyler http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/06/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-29/comment-page-1/#comment-62857 Tyler Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:28:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10680#comment-62857 LOL @ "Gomi has been regulated to Wandy status". Gomi is no where near as shot as Wanderlei. He's disinterested and needs to get away and train with a new camp for awhile. Gomi has never been as brutally knocked out or beaten down like Wanderlei has in the past couple of years. Two entirely different circumstances. LOL @ “Gomi has been regulated to Wandy status”.
Gomi is no where near as shot as Wanderlei.
He’s disinterested and needs to get away and train with a new camp for awhile.
Gomi has never been as brutally knocked out or beaten down like Wanderlei has in the past couple of years. Two entirely different circumstances.

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/06/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-29/comment-page-1/#comment-62855 Sergio Hernandez Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:16:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10680#comment-62855 False - Lesnar will bully Mir around like he did Herring and Couture. Breaking away from the clinch, expect Mir to catch a knee and drop only to get pounded out by Lesnar. True - I can understand the Rashad hate but honestly, this kid looks unbeatable right now. True - Taking on guys like Sapp, Fedor, Jackson, Hunt, CroCop and Hendo, half of those in the span on one year will take its toll on any body. False - Agree with Huck and Harrison. He needs some gimmie fights in his native country to acclimate him to MMA. Don't Know - Aoki definitely uses his BJJ better in MMA than Penn does, that's for sure. False - Gomi is quoted as saying he's taking a year off. No way this year helps at his age. Gomi has been regulated to Wandy status. Ruled a division for a period but can no longer hang with the elite. False – Lesnar will bully Mir around like he did Herring and Couture. Breaking away from the clinch, expect Mir to catch a knee and drop only to get pounded out by Lesnar.

True – I can understand the Rashad hate but honestly, this kid looks unbeatable right now.

True – Taking on guys like Sapp, Fedor, Jackson, Hunt, CroCop and Hendo, half of those in the span on one year will take its toll on any body.

False – Agree with Huck and Harrison. He needs some gimmie fights in his native country to acclimate him to MMA.

Don’t Know – Aoki definitely uses his BJJ better in MMA than Penn does, that’s for sure.

False – Gomi is quoted as saying he’s taking a year off. No way this year helps at his age. Gomi has been regulated to Wandy status. Ruled a division for a period but can no longer hang with the elite.

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]]> By: Ian http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/06/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-29/comment-page-1/#comment-62853 Ian Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:38:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10680#comment-62853 Good post......good points........I..........think.....Rampage.......is going.........to get at......the very least.......a UD.......possibly..........KO over....Rashad........and.........will defend....through.......2009 Good post……good points……..I……….think…..Rampage…….is going………to get at……the very least…….a UD…….possibly……….KO over….Rashad……..and………will defend….through…….2009

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]]> By: Michael Huckaby http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/06/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-29/comment-page-1/#comment-62839 Michael Huckaby Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:42:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10680#comment-62839 Cash gets paid by the period. Cash gets paid by the period.

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]]> By: The Hammaer http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/06/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-29/comment-page-1/#comment-62838 The Hammaer Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:35:25 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10680#comment-62838 If Aoki didnt wear those rediculous pants that help with grip, I would respect him more............ he would get tooled by BJ.........NUFF SAID If Aoki didnt wear those rediculous pants that help with grip, I would respect him more………… he would get tooled by BJ………NUFF SAID

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]]> By: Cash http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/06/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-29/comment-page-1/#comment-62837 Cash Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:11:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10680#comment-62837 Gomi is an exciting fighter.............so Is Houston Alexander........both will be top 3 around the same time.............................................................never Gomi is an exciting fighter………….so Is Houston Alexander……..both will be top 3 around the same time…………………………………………………….never

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]]> By: Cathedron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/06/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-29/comment-page-1/#comment-62836 Cathedron Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:07:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10680#comment-62836 I have no clue what's going to happen in Lesnar vs Mir 2. Lesnar's improved since then, but so has Mir. Lesnar almost won the first time, but Mir still managed a submission and now he can be more prepared for Lesnar's power and speed. It's a total tossup for me. I kinda hope Lesnar wins this just so we get the rubber match. I've lost enough money on Evans to have finally learned my lesson. He will never lose... although that all could change if I actually put money on him for once. I'm not sure. I'm just not going to bet on his fights anymore. I don't want to upset the natural order of things. Nog benefitted from Pride's shady refs letting him take unheard of amounts of punishment. That's not going to happen in the US. He's going to have to improve his game a little, but he's capable of making the adjustment. Silva is too one dimensional. The game has evolved and he hasn't. He's like a stand-up version of Tito Ortiz. Ishii would be taking a huge risk entering the UFC. It worked for Lesnar, but Lesnar's a total freak. Ishii really needs to start small. Which I think he will. I wouldn't be surprised if he went into pro wrestling. Penn is a better fighter in every other aspect. If Aoki didn't have such great JJ, he could never have made it this far. It's too early to tell with Gomi. It could just be a slump. I have no clue what’s going to happen in Lesnar vs Mir 2. Lesnar’s improved since then, but so has Mir. Lesnar almost won the first time, but Mir still managed a submission and now he can be more prepared for Lesnar’s power and speed. It’s a total tossup for me. I kinda hope Lesnar wins this just so we get the rubber match.

I’ve lost enough money on Evans to have finally learned my lesson. He will never lose… although that all could change if I actually put money on him for once. I’m not sure. I’m just not going to bet on his fights anymore. I don’t want to upset the natural order of things.

Nog benefitted from Pride’s shady refs letting him take unheard of amounts of punishment. That’s not going to happen in the US. He’s going to have to improve his game a little, but he’s capable of making the adjustment. Silva is too one dimensional. The game has evolved and he hasn’t. He’s like a stand-up version of Tito Ortiz.

Ishii would be taking a huge risk entering the UFC. It worked for Lesnar, but Lesnar’s a total freak. Ishii really needs to start small. Which I think he will. I wouldn’t be surprised if he went into pro wrestling.

Penn is a better fighter in every other aspect. If Aoki didn’t have such great JJ, he could never have made it this far.

It’s too early to tell with Gomi. It could just be a slump.

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]]> By: rob http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/06/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-29/comment-page-1/#comment-62834 rob Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:58:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10680#comment-62834 Shouldn't #5 be whose BJJ is better Aoki or Maia..... Shouldn’t #5 be whose BJJ is better Aoki or Maia…..

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]]> By: truth http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/06/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-29/comment-page-1/#comment-62833 truth Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:55:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10680#comment-62833 Re #4 "there are no easy wins to be had inside the Octagon" gimmes are handed out. ex. Cheick Kongo's last 2 fights. Re #4 “there are no easy wins to be had inside the Octagon” gimmes are handed out. ex. Cheick Kongo’s last 2 fights.

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]]> By: 45 Huddle http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/06/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-29/comment-page-1/#comment-62818 45 Huddle Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:58:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10680#comment-62818 1. False - Lesnar will have learned enough to avoid the submissions and punish Mir. 2. False - Evans can beat Rampage. He can't beat Thiago Silva (who will upset Machida) 3. True For Nogueira, False For Silva - Nogueira is much slower because of his heavy schedule. Silva I think, just saw the sport pass him by. 4. False - He should start his career in Japan, fight some easier fights, AND THEN come to the UFC. 5. False - Aoki looks better in MMA with his submissions, but if we are making a comparison between the two fighters, then Penn's BJJ would hurt Aoki's. 6. True - He will never even be Top 10 again. 1. False – Lesnar will have learned enough to avoid the submissions and punish Mir.
2. False – Evans can beat Rampage. He can’t beat Thiago Silva (who will upset Machida)
3. True For Nogueira, False For Silva – Nogueira is much slower because of his heavy schedule. Silva I think, just saw the sport pass him by.
4. False – He should start his career in Japan, fight some easier fights, AND THEN come to the UFC.
5. False – Aoki looks better in MMA with his submissions, but if we are making a comparison between the two fighters, then Penn’s BJJ would hurt Aoki’s.
6. True – He will never even be Top 10 again.

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