Comments on: Former UFC heavyweight contender Jeff Monson charged with a felony http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 20:16:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: meatloaf http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-130071 meatloaf Mon, 19 Oct 2009 04:44:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-130071 Reading something like this makes Jeff Monson my favorite boring fighter. Reading something like this makes Jeff Monson my favorite boring fighter.

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]]> By: UFC fan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63800 UFC fan Sun, 18 Jan 2009 05:00:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63800 What a fool! He had a good career and I assume a good life making triple digits.. And he blows it all away by painting a retarded sign! Well I hope he learns his lesson while he sits behind bars for a decade. There's 10yrs of his life he can't get back. I just wonder what provoked him to do it?! We are all human and we make mistakes and pay for them. I pray he changes his mind the next time he feels the need to express himself! What a fool! He had a good career and I assume a good life making triple digits.. And he blows it all away by painting a retarded sign! Well I hope he learns his lesson while he sits behind bars for a decade. There’s 10yrs of his life he can’t get back. I just wonder what provoked him to do it?! We are all human and we make mistakes and pay for them. I pray he changes his mind the next time he feels the need to express himself!

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]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63682 darkmetal Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:13:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63682 Few people are considering the implications of putting the "A" for Anarchy on a federal building. Anarchy is basically the complete abscence of government, much like we saw in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina. To think this dude would advocate having elderly people and children die to feel "cool" is a pretty good indicator of what a worthless human being he is. I myself favor "limited government" but having no police officers, fireman, or social services at all is like a contract to kill our most needy citizens. Words and actions have meaning. Spraying an Anarchy symbol on a federal building is about the same as urinating on the American flag and then advocating burning the house it stands in front of. Few people are considering the implications of putting the “A” for Anarchy on a federal building. Anarchy is basically the complete abscence of government, much like we saw in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina. To think this dude would advocate having elderly people and children die to feel “cool” is a pretty good indicator of what a worthless human being he is. I myself favor “limited government” but having no police officers, fireman, or social services at all is like a contract to kill our most needy citizens.

Words and actions have meaning. Spraying an Anarchy symbol on a federal building is about the same as urinating on the American flag and then advocating burning the house it stands in front of.

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63655 Mike Wolfe Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:58:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63655 ihateemo: Monson's actions didn't call attention to injustice or advance his political views, whatever they may be. The posters on this site are discussing him, not those other subjects. If his intent was to raise public awareness about specific issues, then his protest failed. The focus is on the messenger, not the message. I don't know what motivated Monson. I've known other anarchists and radicals over the years. Some of them had sincere beliefs, and some were malcontents looking for confrontation with authorities for any reason at all. Either way, extremists tend to be tiresome, unpleasant people. The "political" types I respect, regardless of whether I agree with them, are those who do something positive, like volunteer work. Maybe Monson actually has done something besides mouth off and vandalize. If not, I've got no time for him at all. ihateemo:

Monson’s actions didn’t call attention to injustice or advance his political views, whatever they may be. The posters on this site are discussing him, not those other subjects. If his intent was to raise public awareness about specific issues, then his protest failed. The focus is on the messenger, not the message.

I don’t know what motivated Monson. I’ve known other anarchists and radicals over the years. Some of them had sincere beliefs, and some were malcontents looking for confrontation with authorities for any reason at all. Either way, extremists tend to be tiresome, unpleasant people. The “political” types I respect, regardless of whether I agree with them, are those who do something positive, like volunteer work. Maybe Monson actually has done something besides mouth off and vandalize. If not, I’ve got no time for him at all.

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]]> By: Justin Van Hook http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63645 Justin Van Hook Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:45:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63645 Here's some advice for any new posters; don't disagree with anything portland mma says, he's the type of dude that will probaly try and track down your ip address and come and find you to deliver his own special kind of retard justice. Here’s some advice for any new posters; don’t disagree with anything portland mma says, he’s the type of dude that will probaly try and track down your ip address and come and find you to deliver his own special kind of retard justice.

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]]> By: Justin Van Hook http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63644 Justin Van Hook Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:40:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63644 portland mma... I think your the one talking crap to me dude. I'm not calling anyone out by name I'm not even calling anyone out. I'm simply stating an opinion, like everyone else on here, my opionion just happens to be that most of you are idiots. portland mma… I think your the one talking crap to me dude. I’m not calling anyone out by name I’m not even calling anyone out. I’m simply stating an opinion, like everyone else on here, my opionion just happens to be that most of you are idiots.

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]]> By: yuushi http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63637 yuushi Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:20:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63637 I have no sympathy for guys who think they are above the law. Vandalism is a crime. Doing it on a government building is just plain idiotic--since anyone with at least a 5th grade education will know that just compounds the charges. And you can't compare Quinton Jackson's crimes with this one (at least not yet) because Jackson was not in control of his facilities at the time. So far, Monson doesn't have that excuse (since he admitted doing it in protest.) I have no sympathy for guys who think they are above the law. Vandalism is a crime. Doing it on a government building is just plain idiotic–since anyone with at least a 5th grade education will know that just compounds the charges.

And you can’t compare Quinton Jackson’s crimes with this one (at least not yet) because Jackson was not in control of his facilities at the time. So far, Monson doesn’t have that excuse (since he admitted doing it in protest.)

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]]> By: TS http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63631 TS Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:59:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63631 Of course he's facing serious jail time. He defaced government property. Do you think someone that spray paints your house and then someone that sprays the white house is gonna get the same penalties. Thats why all u anarchists are idiots.l The great thing about this nation is that we aren't forcing you to be here so u can leave. If it was so bad here then u wouldnt stay here. Sack up and stop blamin the government for ur problems. If ur poor then its ur own damn fault, if ur rich then its because u or someone before u worked hard to get there. Screw this crap about the nation closin the gap between rich and poor. How bout u get off ur ass and close the gap. Its because our government that we arent running for our lives because a war is being fought on American soil. Like I said if u wanna protest our government and its decisions go live somewhere else if its so bad and corrupt. Chunk deuce!!!! Holla!!!! Of course he’s facing serious jail time. He defaced government property. Do you think someone that spray paints your house and then someone that sprays the white house is gonna get the same penalties. Thats why all u anarchists are idiots.l The great thing about this nation is that we aren’t forcing you to be here so u can leave. If it was so bad here then u wouldnt stay here. Sack up and stop blamin the government for ur problems. If ur poor then its ur own damn fault, if ur rich then its because u or someone before u worked hard to get there. Screw this crap about the nation closin the gap between rich and poor. How bout u get off ur ass and close the gap. Its because our government that we arent running for our lives because a war is being fought on American soil. Like I said if u wanna protest our government and its decisions go live somewhere else if its so bad and corrupt. Chunk deuce!!!! Holla!!!!

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]]> By: ihateemo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63629 ihateemo Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:45:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63629 @ Mike Wolfe "Monson’s life is a tribute to “the system”" And there are plenty of people in both the US and various places the US has bombed or otherwise dicked around in whose lives are not as blessed as Monson's is. The system works for him - great. Does that mean he can't be pissed off for the people whose lives are not so fortunate? Just because Monson has made money it doesn't mean that he can't point out rampant injustice and inequality. Oh, and look at all the comments this thread generated. Clearly his actions have provoked quite the discussion - something I'm sure was his intent in the first place. @ Mike Wolfe

“Monson’s life is a tribute to “the system””

And there are plenty of people in both the US and various places the US has bombed or otherwise dicked around in whose lives are not as blessed as Monson’s is. The system works for him – great. Does that mean he can’t be pissed off for the people whose lives are not so fortunate?

Just because Monson has made money it doesn’t mean that he can’t point out rampant injustice and inequality. Oh, and look at all the comments this thread generated. Clearly his actions have provoked quite the discussion – something I’m sure was his intent in the first place.

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]]> By: steven http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63623 steven Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:03:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63623 Its up to 10 yrs. Depending on his record he won't get but a few months in prision. For such a smart guy who supposedly has an education he isn't very effective in promoting his cause given that 90% of the posts here alone are negative toward him.you do dumb shit you get treated like the dumb ass you are. Its up to 10 yrs. Depending on his record he won’t get but a few months in prision. For such a smart guy who supposedly has an education he isn’t very effective in promoting his cause given that 90% of the posts here alone are negative toward him.you do dumb shit you get treated like the dumb ass you are.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63621 mike wolfe Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:38:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63621 Tyler: I'm always amazed by people who claim to be disillusioned with a system that has enabled them to live unusual and sometimes extraordinary lives. Monson's life is a tribute to "the system", not an indictment. Lots of people in Calcutta or the slums of Buenos Aires would kill for the chance to be as oppressed as he is. I still say he's a world class wanker. Tyler:

I’m always amazed by people who claim to be disillusioned with a system that has enabled them to live unusual and sometimes extraordinary lives. Monson’s life is a tribute to “the system”, not an indictment. Lots of people in Calcutta or the slums of Buenos Aires would kill for the chance to be as oppressed as he is. I still say he’s a world class wanker.

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]]> By: t-los http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63620 t-los Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:28:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63620 wow 10 years? there are people who have involvement in murder and have gotten 5 years so i guess this is more important then taking a life or perhaps rape or grand theft. interesting. wow 10 years? there are people who have involvement in murder and have gotten 5 years so i guess this is more important then taking a life or perhaps rape or grand theft. interesting.

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]]> By: Tyler http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63614 Tyler Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:30:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63614 mike wolfe, I really don't think when Monson was spray painting he was concerned with the possible consequences. Read the ESPN the magazine piece. This guy isn't an idiot or moron. He's a smart guy with a college education who has lost faith in this system and society. When you reach that point I'm pretty sure as you're spray painting an anarchy symbol that you are thinking to yourself "Boy I hope I don't get in trouble". mike wolfe, I really don’t think when Monson was spray painting he was concerned with the possible consequences. Read the ESPN the magazine piece. This guy isn’t an idiot or moron. He’s a smart guy with a college education who has lost faith in this system and society. When you reach that point I’m pretty sure as you’re spray painting an anarchy symbol that you are thinking to yourself “Boy I hope I don’t get in trouble”.

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]]> By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63613 mike wolfe Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:14:59 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63613 Portland mma I wasn't at the "Battle in Seattle" and the whole thing was a giant "ho hum" for me. But if you do an internet search on it you'll find that it involved anarchists, including a bunch from Eugene who'd fought with police earlier in the year. They later claimed that they intentionally targeted and vandalized corporations including Starbucks, Bank of America and Planet Hollywood, of all things, for "corporate crimes". And I think they were protesting against the World Trade Organization, which was in town for a conference. The Northwest has always been a hotbed for such people dating back to the IWW and the labor movement in the early 1900's. Ok, that was admittedly way off topic. Getting back to Monson, if he's criminally charged and convicted, his biggest problem may be the impact on his ability to travel internationally. Some countries including the U.S. deny visas to convicted criminals. In these days of heightened fears about terrorists and political extremists, it was a particularly foolish idea to engage in criminal activity associated with political ideologies that are considered potentially dangerous. Ironically, Monson's protest may drive him into the arms of a lawyer who will have to appear for him in a court of law organized and existing under the very system he considers oppressive and coercive. What a maroon. Portland mma

I wasn’t at the “Battle in Seattle” and the whole thing was a giant “ho hum” for me. But if you do an internet search on it you’ll find that it involved anarchists, including a bunch from Eugene who’d fought with police earlier in the year. They later claimed that they intentionally targeted and vandalized corporations including Starbucks, Bank of America and Planet Hollywood, of all things, for “corporate crimes”. And I think they were protesting against the World Trade Organization, which was in town for a conference. The Northwest has always been a hotbed for such people dating back to the IWW and the labor movement in the early 1900′s.

Ok, that was admittedly way off topic. Getting back to Monson, if he’s criminally charged and convicted, his biggest problem may be the impact on his ability to travel internationally. Some countries including the U.S. deny visas to convicted criminals. In these days of heightened fears about terrorists and political extremists, it was a particularly foolish idea to engage in criminal activity associated with political ideologies that are considered potentially dangerous. Ironically, Monson’s protest may drive him into the arms of a lawyer who will have to appear for him in a court of law organized and existing under the very system he considers oppressive and coercive. What a maroon.

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]]> By: portland mma http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63610 portland mma Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:57:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63610 Those weren't anarchist Mike, there were all different kinds of people in Seattle at that march and they were standing up against NAFTA, not some crazy anarchy bull crap. Also 98 percent of the people there were there for a good reason it was the Jeff Monsons of the group who made the real protesters look illegitimate, like recently did to himself. Those weren’t anarchist Mike, there were all different kinds of people in Seattle at that march and they were standing up against NAFTA, not some crazy anarchy bull crap. Also 98 percent of the people there were there for a good reason it was the Jeff Monsons of the group who made the real protesters look illegitimate, like recently did to himself.

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]]> By: portland mma http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63609 portland mma Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:54:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63609 Justin Van Hook atleast i'm talking crap about Jeff Monson rather than faceless people on the internet. I love when people come into forums and give their opinion on why its dumb to give your opinion. Justin Van Hook atleast i’m talking crap about Jeff Monson rather than faceless people on the internet. I love when people come into forums and give their opinion on why its dumb to give your opinion.

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]]> By: portland mma http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63608 portland mma Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:52:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63608 But spray painting letters on buildings isn't? But spray painting letters on buildings isn’t?

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]]> By: CMT http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63606 CMT Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:06:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63606 Good point Mike W. Good point Mike W.

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63600 Mike Wolfe Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:55:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63600 Washington state is pretty tolerant, at least in Olympia, so it's unlikely Monson will face jail time. There's little doubt he'll have to pay damages, and possibly fines, too. Anarchists caused riots and significant property damage in Seattle a while back, so it's unlikely he'll walk free. And somebody has to explain to me how he reconciles professional fighting with anarchistic ideals. After all, he's being paid money (gasp!) by corporations (good god!) to perform in an organized, for profit enterprise (oh, the humiliation!). Probably pays taxes to "the man", too. (oh, the horror!). What a self indulgent wanker. Washington state is pretty tolerant, at least in Olympia, so it’s unlikely Monson will face jail time. There’s little doubt he’ll have to pay damages, and possibly fines, too. Anarchists caused riots and significant property damage in Seattle a while back, so it’s unlikely he’ll walk free.

And somebody has to explain to me how he reconciles professional fighting with anarchistic ideals. After all, he’s being paid money (gasp!) by corporations (good god!) to perform in an organized, for profit enterprise (oh, the humiliation!). Probably pays taxes to “the man”, too. (oh, the horror!).

What a self indulgent wanker.

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]]> By: Alvis http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/14/former-ufc-heavyweight-contender-jeff-monson-charged-with-a-felony/comment-page-1/#comment-63599 Alvis Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:32:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=10874#comment-63599 holy shit what size of Anarchy symbol did he spray? $19k lolololol thAts'a a joke holy shit what size of Anarchy symbol did he spray?

$19k lolololol thAts’a a joke

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