Comments on: Postcard from the Couch: UFC 93 Franklin vs. Henderson http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 20:16:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: LMG http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64275 LMG Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:25:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64275 ultmma...personally, I'd love to see the UFC try some different things. But the bottom line is, from their perspective, why should they? There is no other game in town, so to speak. And it's not like they don't do a good job. So yeah, their approach is definitely, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." For this column's purposes, I wish there were more televised MMA shows, simply because it would give me more to work with. As I've said before, I will always do my best to cover all events, not just UFC events. ultmma…personally, I’d love to see the UFC try some different things. But the bottom line is, from their perspective, why should they? There is no other game in town, so to speak. And it’s not like they don’t do a good job. So yeah, their approach is definitely, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

For this column’s purposes, I wish there were more televised MMA shows, simply because it would give me more to work with. As I’ve said before, I will always do my best to cover all events, not just UFC events.

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]]> By: ultmma http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64208 ultmma Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:48:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64208 great point! about no need to repeat or pile on, I just want to know is using the same cookie cutter formula for their events a good thing "if ain't broke don't fix it" philosophy or as the industry leader shouldn't they be expected to take more chances with their broadcasts?? lol i don't know maybe I've watched one too many UFC events in my life Love the breakdowns from the TV industry perspective keep up the good work great point! about no need to repeat or pile on,

I just want to know is using the same cookie cutter formula for their events a good thing “if ain’t broke don’t fix it” philosophy

or

as the industry leader shouldn’t they be expected to take more chances with their broadcasts??

lol i don’t know maybe I’ve watched one too many UFC events in my life

Love the breakdowns from the TV industry perspective keep up the good work

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]]> By: LMG http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64201 LMG Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:58:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64201 ultmma...if you go back and read some earlier editions of this column, you'll see me "call for more improvements." The challenge is, though, not smacking the readers over the head with them again and again and again every single time I write a PCFTC. I've talked about how they need to improve their packaging and GFX, just to name a couple of things. This is also why I focused on the audio for this card, because it's rarely talked about. Thanks for reading! ultmma…if you go back and read some earlier editions of this column, you’ll see me “call for more improvements.”

The challenge is, though, not smacking the readers over the head with them again and again and again every single time I write a PCFTC. I’ve talked about how they need to improve their packaging and GFX, just to name a couple of things.

This is also why I focused on the audio for this card, because it’s rarely talked about.

Thanks for reading!

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]]> By: ultmma http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64192 ultmma Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:50:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64192 Couple of points, great insight here as always the audioe section was spot on it truely adds to the big event atomosphere of the UFC -I like when they go to the corner for insight, I even wouldnt mind if they did it more - Rogan is not funny (pretty subjective comment :) ) his humor is cool if your between the ages of 14-21 and your a male -The p**** is just dumb and low brow. Its not called for. it makes the sport look low class and give the critics something to point to and say "hey i told MMA is too crude / too violent" This is mixed martial arts not boxing with smaller gloves -The UFC broadcast is far, far from perfect. I want to see you call for more improvments -I hope Affliction provide a nice alternative to their broadcast (unlike their first offering) Pepsi to the Coke of the UFC's presentation Couple of points, great insight here as always the audioe section was spot on it truely adds to the big event atomosphere of the UFC
-I like when they go to the corner for insight, I even wouldnt mind if they did it more
- Rogan is not funny (pretty subjective comment :) ) his humor is cool if your between the ages of 14-21 and your a male
-The p**** is just dumb and low brow. Its not called for. it makes the sport look low class and give the critics something to point to and say “hey i told MMA is too crude / too violent” This is mixed martial arts not boxing with smaller gloves

-The UFC broadcast is far, far from perfect. I want to see you call for more improvments
-I hope Affliction provide a nice alternative to their broadcast (unlike their first offering) Pepsi to the Coke of the UFC’s presentation

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]]> By: LMG http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64140 LMG Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:05:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64140 Thanks again for the comments about the format change. Sometimes you try an idea and it doesn't work, so you just go back to the basics. Having said that, I'm always open to input and/or ideas from everyone, as long as they're delivered in a reasonable way. Thanks again for the comments about the format change. Sometimes you try an idea and it doesn’t work, so you just go back to the basics. Having said that, I’m always open to input and/or ideas from everyone, as long as they’re delivered in a reasonable way.

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]]> By: JJ Docker http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64133 JJ Docker Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:57:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64133 Also, this article has improved leaps and bounds since its first installment; and is now a very enjoyable read. Particularly interesting are your perceptions and opinions of the audio/visual components of the PPV. Also, this article has improved leaps and bounds since its first installment; and is now a very enjoyable read. Particularly interesting are your perceptions and opinions of the audio/visual components of the PPV.

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]]> By: JJ Docker http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64131 JJ Docker Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:53:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64131 HexRei I completely agree. I am a huge Rogan fan, best color in the game, by some margin. But it was amazing that he was suddenly clamoring for the fight to be stood up with 1 minute to go of RD3. Not only is this contradicting his (very) previously expressed opinion about the stand-up rule but I am also 100% sure he would not have felt the same had it been Horn lying in Palhares' guard. And Lawdog to say "It was clear that Zuffa wanted Franklin to win and that Rogan and Goldberg were instructed to call the fight that way." is ludicrous, to say the least. HexRei I completely agree. I am a huge Rogan fan, best color in the game, by some margin. But it was amazing that he was suddenly clamoring for the fight to be stood up with 1 minute to go of RD3. Not only is this contradicting his (very) previously expressed opinion about the stand-up rule but I am also 100% sure he would not have felt the same had it been Horn lying in Palhares’ guard.
And Lawdog to say “It was clear that Zuffa wanted Franklin to win and that Rogan and Goldberg were instructed to call the fight that way.” is ludicrous, to say the least.

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]]> By: maddog http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64125 maddog Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:47:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64125 There is no way for the ufc to know what fight will be good or what fight will be bad. I never for a moment thought that they wanted franklin to win. I would ask all you rogan haters to tell me who would do a better job? In my eyes the best commentators I have heard were rogan, goldberg and couture. If you watched elite xc it made the ufc team look like the greatest team in the history of man. Lawdawg you are completely wrong. You should all be thankful the ufc will pit two big names against each other when it seems like as a company they have nothing to win. That is what makes the ufc great. Hexrei,I am unimpressed with the way that Jeremy horn looks. It appears as though he hasn't trained at all for a fight. We all bang on Karo and Mir for not training yet give horn a pass. I love the old horn but this is a different game than it was 5 years ago. Great change in format lee. Good write up. There is no way for the ufc to know what fight will be good or what fight will be bad. I never for a moment thought that they wanted franklin to win. I would ask all you rogan haters to tell me who would do a better job? In my eyes the best commentators I have heard were rogan, goldberg and couture. If you watched elite xc it made the ufc team look like the greatest team in the history of man. Lawdawg you are completely wrong. You should all be thankful the ufc will pit two big names against each other when it seems like as a company they have nothing to win. That is what makes the ufc great.

Hexrei,I am unimpressed with the way that Jeremy horn looks. It appears as though he hasn’t trained at all for a fight. We all bang on Karo and Mir for not training yet give horn a pass. I love the old horn but this is a different game than it was 5 years ago.

Great change in format lee. Good write up.

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]]> By: ViciousUppercut http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64119 ViciousUppercut Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:40:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64119 Lee; toward the end of your last post just above me you wrote "nothing to LOSE". Thank you Lee, for spelling it correctly. I am amazed at how many times I read posters who spell lose as "LOOSE". I am absolutely amazed by how so few posters can't spell the word LOSE. I don't mean to nitpick. I never do, but I was about to loose my mind. Just kidding Lee; toward the end of your last post just above me you wrote “nothing to LOSE”. Thank you Lee, for spelling it correctly. I am amazed at how many times I read posters who spell lose as “LOOSE”. I am absolutely amazed by how so few posters can’t spell the word LOSE. I don’t mean to nitpick. I never do, but I was about to loose my mind. Just kidding

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]]> By: 1michael http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64105 1michael Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:45:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64105 as someone who generally could care less about this article and the whole "postcard" concept, i have to give props to lee's latest comment. "As an anonymous reader who has nothing to lose by giving outspoken, unwarranted opinions, you don’t. I didn’t see it this way at all." the truth if i ever heard it. as someone who generally could care less about this article and the whole “postcard” concept, i have to give props to lee’s latest comment. “As an anonymous reader who has nothing to lose by giving outspoken, unwarranted opinions, you don’t. I didn’t see it this way at all.” the truth if i ever heard it.

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]]> By: Lee http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64086 Lee Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:17:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64086 My thoughts on some of the comments... JOe K. - "a forgettable UFC." For me, it wasn't even close to this. It wasn't the best card ever, but I certainly didn't feel this way. Having said that, there is no right or wrong opinion, because what may be a good card to me may be a lousy one to someone else. Lawdawg - It's absurd that you'd call someone's opinion "absurd" when it comes to your point, because your point ("Zuffa wanted Franklin to win and that Rogan and Goldberg were instructed to call the fight that way") has absolutely zero evidence to back up your claim. Again, if that is the way you saw it, believe that then. But, if I wrote that it was "obvious" that "Zuffa wanted Franklin to win and that Rogan and Goldberg were instructed to call the fight that way," as a writer, I'd need to provide more evidence or insight into that. As an anonymous reader who has nothing to lose by giving outspoken, unwarranted opinions, you don't. I didn't see it this way at all. My thoughts on some of the comments…

JOe K. – “a forgettable UFC.” For me, it wasn’t even close to this. It wasn’t the best card ever, but I certainly didn’t feel this way. Having said that, there is no right or wrong opinion, because what may be a good card to me may be a lousy one to someone else.

Lawdawg – It’s absurd that you’d call someone’s opinion “absurd” when it comes to your point, because your point (“Zuffa wanted Franklin to win and that Rogan and Goldberg were instructed to call the fight that way”) has absolutely zero evidence to back up your claim. Again, if that is the way you saw it, believe that then.

But, if I wrote that it was “obvious” that “Zuffa wanted Franklin to win and that Rogan and Goldberg were instructed to call the fight that way,” as a writer, I’d need to provide more evidence or insight into that. As an anonymous reader who has nothing to lose by giving outspoken, unwarranted opinions, you don’t. I didn’t see it this way at all.

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64031 JOe K. Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:49:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64031 So is anybody else bothered by the lack of fights shown? So is anybody else bothered by the lack of fights shown?

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64029 Mike Wolfe Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:32:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64029 Excellent points, especially about the audio. The corner comments were particularly insightful, sometimes unintentionally. Speaking of audio, how about the Irish singing like they were at a football match? God bless, 'em, that was a really nice local flavor, and the crisp audio picked it up nicely. If you're gonna get pissed out of your mind and make noise, it might as well be something worth hearing. Excellent points, especially about the audio. The corner comments were particularly insightful, sometimes unintentionally.

Speaking of audio, how about the Irish singing like they were at a football match? God bless, ‘em, that was a really nice local flavor, and the crisp audio picked it up nicely. If you’re gonna get pissed out of your mind and make noise, it might as well be something worth hearing.

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]]> By: dedstrk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64028 dedstrk Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:27:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64028 another strength of Rogan's is to be completely biased toward a certain fighter. I'm sick of that. another strength of Rogan’s is to be completely biased toward a certain fighter. I’m sick of that.

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]]> By: truth http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64025 truth Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:44:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64025 Fighters shadow boxing in the mist is old, really not that cool of an effect. Anyone else think it's silly we just see the ring girls take 3 steps then plant thier ass. I understand we can't have the cut to the corners and the ring girl, give me one or the other. Fighters shadow boxing in the mist is old, really not that cool of an effect. Anyone else think it’s silly we just see the ring girls take 3 steps then plant thier ass. I understand we can’t have the cut to the corners and the ring girl, give me one or the other.

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]]> By: Lawdawg http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64022 Lawdawg Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:29:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64022 With all due respect, asserting that Rogan and Goldberg turned in a great broadcast is absurd. Their bias in the Franklin v. Henderson fight was obvious. It was clear that Zuffa wanted Franklin to win and that Rogan and Goldberg were instructed to call the fight that way. The fact that Rogan failed to point out the absurdity of the 30-27 Franklin scorecard only shows the bias. With all due respect, asserting that Rogan and Goldberg turned in a great broadcast is absurd. Their bias in the Franklin v. Henderson fight was obvious. It was clear that Zuffa wanted Franklin to win and that Rogan and Goldberg were instructed to call the fight that way. The fact that Rogan failed to point out the absurdity of the 30-27 Franklin scorecard only shows the bias.

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]]> By: HexRei http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64021 HexRei Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:26:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64021 I'm saying this as a very big Jeremy Horn fan, Goldie and Rogan were WAY overboard on talking up Horn during that bout. Every other line was about how Horn was about to explode, or about to finish Rousimar, Rousimar had Horn dominated for almost the entire bout but they acted like Horn was on the verge of winning. It was embarrassing frankly, and I hope Rousimar doesn't rewatch that with a translator because if I was him I would be enraged. I’m saying this as a very big Jeremy Horn fan, Goldie and Rogan were WAY overboard on talking up Horn during that bout. Every other line was about how Horn was about to explode, or about to finish Rousimar, Rousimar had Horn dominated for almost the entire bout but they acted like Horn was on the verge of winning. It was embarrassing frankly, and I hope Rousimar doesn’t rewatch that with a translator because if I was him I would be enraged.

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]]> By: Lee http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64020 Lee Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:26:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64020 Thanks guys. I will be out of town for Affliction, but will watch it and share my thoughts soon afterwards. Thanks guys. I will be out of town for Affliction, but will watch it and share my thoughts soon afterwards.

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]]> By: Joseph http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64018 Joseph Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:45:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64018 The card was not very good. Production is the norm for a UFC card. The card was not very good.
Production is the norm for a UFC card.

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/19/postcard-from-the-couch-ufc-93-franklin-vs-henderson/comment-page-1/#comment-64016 JOe K. Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:42:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11073#comment-64016 It was a pretty poor event in terms of the fights which is the main thing I want to see. The fights were long and some were boring and the pacing (my pet peeve) was not very good. Definitely a forgettable UFC (sans Lytle/Davis). I buy the ppv's for the fights. Its nice to see the announcers on point and a high quality production value however, if the fights are bad and there aren't many shown then the event is an utter failure. For examples see the last 2 WEC events or UFC 90 It was a pretty poor event in terms of the fights which is the main thing I want to see.

The fights were long and some were boring and the pacing (my pet peeve) was not very good.

Definitely a forgettable UFC (sans Lytle/Davis). I buy the ppv’s for the fights. Its nice to see the announcers on point and a high quality production value however, if the fights are bad and there aren’t many shown then the event is an utter failure.

For examples see the last 2 WEC events or UFC 90

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