Comments on: Snowden: Dana White Wins Again

By: Meatloaf

Meatloaf — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:49:10 +0000

@tallsforeverybody, Some people disagree with Dana White’s non sense simply because they (I included) think he’s an asshole. Not to pretend to be “hard core” as you put it.
By the way hardcore is one word.

By: tallsforeverybody

tallsforeverybody — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:29:16 +0000

The only reason we have MMA to watch is Dana White’s vision and the Fertita money.

A few other things factor in but only to a small degree in comparison to what Dan/Fertitas/UFC have accomplished.

The Gracie concept helped everyone put to rest the age old question about martial arts, but you can thank no one but Zuffa for what we all enjoy every week.

No one else even exists today who has a clue as to how to build a sport and a business outside of Zuffa.

Quit hating just because you think you fit the “hard core” definition of a fan.

Reality is that you are not as “hard core” as you think.

By: yuushi

yuushi — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:08:12 +0000

I love the UFC but it sort of seems like the BCS of mma sometimes. Lets get some tournaments together and let the fighters determind who the best is, Not Dana “dickskin” White and Joe “the invisible man” Silva. DREAM tournaments are the greatest thing mma has going right now, just think how awesome it would be if the UFC did the same thing with the talent they have. I’ve heard all the arguments against tournaments in the UFC but for me, it’s the only true competition.

Can’t do tournaments in the US. Least not without them being way watered down (anyone remember YAMMA and their HW Tournament?)

I can understand you wanting something different in the UFC, but at least be realistic.

By: Bear

Bear — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:16:19 +0000

All this Dana bashing is pointless. I understand the inherent right of every fight fan to throw their 2 cents in about the commercialization of the sport but facts are facts…Has Dana made MMA matter on a broader scale? YES. Nuff said. All this armchair QBing because he is an Ass doesnt make sense.
With all that being said….i think there is one HUGE component missing here in the discussion–the fighters themselves do not get enough credit in the recent success of this sport! Dana and everyone else need to show more respect to the efforts, both in and out of the octagon, of the “talent” in this wave of success.

By: Axl

Axl — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:49:47 +0000

Look at what Dana did to Jon Fitch!!
He has him on the aundercard to teach him a lesson, not to mess with him!?
How pathetic is that!?
He is killing MMA man!!!!

FITE DANA WHITE!!
Say it with me!!!

By: kidneybeans

kidneybeans — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:48:51 +0000

I love the UFC but it sort of seems like the BCS of mma sometimes. Lets get some tournaments together and let the fighters determind who the best is, Not Dana “dickskin” White and Joe “the invisible man” Silva. DREAM tournaments are the greatest thing mma has going right now, just think how awesome it would be if the UFC did the same thing with the talent they have. I’ve heard all the arguments against tournaments in the UFC but for me, it’s the only true competition.

By: JBAR

JBAR — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:36:59 +0000

Dana is like the QB of the UFC. He gets all of the glory for the good things the UFC has done and he gets all of the backlash for the mistakes. Dana has alot of control in the UFC but he is not the only one, he is just the public face of UFC management.

By: Dr.Stoppage

Dr.Stoppage — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:31:06 +0000

“Hardcore fans are wrong to prefer a card of Penn v. Florian and GSP v. Alves to a card with one superfight. ”

Pretty bold statement.
Haven’t you learned?Hardcore fans are never wrong.

By: RICK

RICK — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:36:41 +0000

OMG if running a promotion was so easy we would all be doing it. Obviously its not and he must be doing something right (maybe not everything), but something. Lets give credit where credit is due. We all wanted super fights from Pride days vs UFC back then. We have one going on in the best organzation in the world and peeps want to complain. OMG

By: htown-chris

htown-chris — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:31:24 +0000

reading the article it didnt say dana was single handidly responsible for making the ufc what it is. but he is responsible for the marketing of the ufc. if you dont know the history of the ufc then that is why you cant comprehend the magnitude of this fight. if penn winsits the first time since the induction of weight classes in the ufc that a fighter has held two titles in two divisions. i would much rather see two champions fight versus watching a champ defend his title against a contendar.

By: screwface

screwface — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:07:33 +0000

dana is the man and deserves your respect. you dont have to like him but you gotta respect him. without him our sport would be nowhere, hes made mma a legitimate respectable sport, when it was looked at as nothing short of barbaric before. and without ufc what would be watching? rumor has it affliction is already done, just wating on the official announcement now. if thats true another 1 bites the dust, if not true its still inevitable. nobody can duplicate danas success. and to be honest i really dont like dana. i think hes an arrogant prick. but dammit if i dont have mad respect for him. used to be hard gettin enough friends over to put in money for the next ppv, but now u gotta turn em away, and every bar fights to get ur business by promising to have it on. dana did that

By: wwefans

wwefans — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 06:41:13 +0000

Right, its all about the promotion and not about the fighter. Exactly your philosophy … Who cares about the hard work Florian and Machida and Alves put in time and time again … who gives a shit of a 2-1 former pro wrestling is getting paid more then the champ in the main event (ufc 81) … Who gives a shit if two major belts are defended twice a year? Thats exactly right, who gives a shit! I say Affliction gives a shit, that’s who!

By: cornerman

cornerman — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 04:39:32 +0000

We as spectators should just watch the freakin fights and enjoy the spectacle that some of them bring. I could care less about the politics of it. If Jimmy ‘crack’ Corn and Joe ‘blow’ McGo fight a good entertaining fight then I’m satisfied paying for it. The hype is rarely justified. Case in point Fedor/Andrei, I would have loved to see 5 rounds of that. The hype would have been out shined completely. Not saying it was a total let down but let’s face facts it really is just another win for Fedor, not much more. I’m not trying to discredit his KTFO of Andrei I’m simply saying that a true slugfest or grapple clinic is worth more to me than hyped up super fights that rarely deliver. If this fight actually ends up being fight of the year or even a classic bawl for the ages I’ll be the next one clamoring for Fedor/Mir or Penn/Aoki or Evans/Silva but for now I’m very satisfied with Thiago/Lyoto and Sonnen/Maia.

By: HexRei

HexRei — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:00:49 +0000

totally agreed R/P

By: R/p

R/p — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:22:40 +0000

So because you can;t change there’s no reason to criticize. Good logic. Jon Fitch gets cut over a video game but don’t complain you can’t change it/

By: kingtcb

kingtcb — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:16:46 +0000

Ha all these posts about hating DW and how this bj vs gsp means nothing and blah blah is so sad. Are you kidding me this fight means nothing?? 2 fighters who could easily be considered best p4p fighters in the world squaring up is an amazing fight. People that bitch should just stop watching mma or just build there own organization because obviously you are all pros and could easily put dana outta business in your eyes. Stop being little girls and enjoy the fight and enjoy whatever dana does because obviously you can’t do anything about it

By: R/p

R/p — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:50:43 +0000

If this is truly a sport then the most worthy should be fighting each other, not the most marketable. It is very sad state of affairs to see things turn this way. Maybe I’m a purist but it’s the truth.

Also Dana is very disrespectful to fighters outside of the UFC and is beyond tactless in public. They don;t want to promote the sport; they make it seem like if it isn’t the UFC it isn’t MMA. This tough guy act he puts on is solely from their position as the top guy now. Go look at when he entered Chuck in the ’03 GP. He was quiet more humble and that was because PRIDE was bigger and better. Back then Dana loved the idea of copromotion. It’s just hilarious to me; it’s like the nerd in high school getting successful and becomes a dick to everyone because he wasn’t liked.

By: madiq

madiq — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:47:11 +0000

I think that it’s not that hardcore fans prefer GSP-Alves and Penn-Florian to GSP-Penn, but that FAIRNESS dictates that Alves and Florian get their long-deserved shots, and then, if both win, they truly would have “cleaned out” their respective divisions, and then the Superfight would be bigger. Is it a risky proposition? Of course, but every tuneup fight is. However, I think that sometimes, buildup works.

By: Mike Wolfe

Mike Wolfe — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:26:06 +0000

I want to see BJ and GSP fight. Both have improved since their last fight, and it’s worth the money to me. I also want to see Alves and Florian get their title shots. And I’ll be I’m not disappointed; they will contend for the titles in the near future. All the “I hate Dana” rhetoric is pointless.

By: Jonathan Snowden

Jonathan Snowden — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:43:35 +0000

Personally, Dana has been kind to me whenever I have seen him at shows. It’s just that I don’t want to see his head grow any larger…

“What is the point of this article?”

In a nutshell? Hardcore fans are wrong to prefer a card of Penn v. Florian and GSP v. Alves to a card with one superfight. Dana is right. This is why the UFC makes boatloads of cash and most other promoters only seem to give it away.