Comments on: Pain Poll: The 5 Oz. Staff Predicts and Previews UFC 94 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 20:16:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: mike wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-65400 mike wolfe Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:31:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11327#comment-65400 BJ's tough talk is his way of pumping himself up, imo. He'd talk like that to himself in the mirror when he had no audience and there were no cameras. And yeah, he does have a warrior spirit in the octagon. The question is whether he has the warrior spirit when it's necessary to push himself to the limit in training. GSP does, and his conditioning is always amazing. That was one of the reasons he beat BJ in their first encounter. He had the strength and endurance to take BJ down repeatedly even after taking damage in the stand up war in the first round. And for the record, I know about BJ's success in JJ competitions. My point is that he shouldn't overlook that advantage in a MMA fight with GSP. If BJ tries to fight GSP the way he fought Sherk, for example, he's playing to GSP's strength as a fighter, and he won't have the height, weight, and reach advantages that he usually has when fighting at 155. BJ's JJ could be an equalizer and an advantage for him, but my hunch is that he'll only use it defensively off his back. In a five round stand up war, GSP is too big and has way too much gas in his tank and will prevail. BJ’s tough talk is his way of pumping himself up, imo. He’d talk like that to himself in the mirror when he had no audience and there were no cameras. And yeah, he does have a warrior spirit in the octagon. The question is whether he has the warrior spirit when it’s necessary to push himself to the limit in training. GSP does, and his conditioning is always amazing. That was one of the reasons he beat BJ in their first encounter. He had the strength and endurance to take BJ down repeatedly even after taking damage in the stand up war in the first round.

And for the record, I know about BJ’s success in JJ competitions. My point is that he shouldn’t overlook that advantage in a MMA fight with GSP. If BJ tries to fight GSP the way he fought Sherk, for example, he’s playing to GSP’s strength as a fighter, and he won’t have the height, weight, and reach advantages that he usually has when fighting at 155. BJ’s JJ could be an equalizer and an advantage for him, but my hunch is that he’ll only use it defensively off his back. In a five round stand up war, GSP is too big and has way too much gas in his tank and will prevail.

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]]> By: darkmetal http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-65383 darkmetal Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:44:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11327#comment-65383 Yeah, BJ tends to really amp up the rhetoric whenever he fights, while GSP is always the "gentleman fighter" who says he fights with his fists rather than his mouth. But you have to admit, BJ does do a great job making everyone think it will be an "all-out war"; Obviously, this sells seats and PPV's. I think that GSP will win this one. I am amazed that at his level, he seems to be constantly making an effort to "level up". And it can be said that if you don't improve, you get left behind--just ask Ken Shamrock. I think Lyoto Machida will continue to win, and beat Thiago. His gameplan is exactly what Andrei Arlovski should have stuck with in his match with Fedor. He takes Bruce Lee's "hit but don't be hit" philosophy to a new era. Of course, when he wins, we will hear all the hard-cores whine about him not charging in for a slugging match, but this is not a youtube brawl, it is MMA. If you don't like elusiveness, then blindfold the fighters and let them go. Machida is not Kimbo Slice, for Pete's sake. Guida will be very hard for Diaz to submit. His gas tank seems almost unlmiited for 3 rounds, and he will not stay in a static position long enough to be positioned. I don't see Guida KO'ing him, but he will grind him throughout...obviously. Yeah, BJ tends to really amp up the rhetoric whenever he fights, while GSP is always the “gentleman fighter” who says he fights with his fists rather than his mouth. But you have to admit, BJ does do a great job making everyone think it will be an “all-out war”; Obviously, this sells seats and PPV’s.

I think that GSP will win this one. I am amazed that at his level, he seems to be constantly making an effort to “level up”. And it can be said that if you don’t improve, you get left behind–just ask Ken Shamrock.

I think Lyoto Machida will continue to win, and beat Thiago. His gameplan is exactly what Andrei Arlovski should have stuck with in his match with Fedor. He takes Bruce Lee’s “hit but don’t be hit” philosophy to a new era. Of course, when he wins, we will hear all the hard-cores whine about him not charging in for a slugging match, but this is not a youtube brawl, it is MMA. If you don’t like elusiveness, then blindfold the fighters and let them go. Machida is not Kimbo Slice, for Pete’s sake.

Guida will be very hard for Diaz to submit. His gas tank seems almost unlmiited for 3 rounds, and he will not stay in a static position long enough to be positioned.
I don’t see Guida KO’ing him, but he will grind him throughout…obviously.

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]]> By: Grappo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-65366 Grappo Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:45:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11327#comment-65366 Wow, I thought the vast majority of people were picking GSP. Huckaby wrote - "...St. Pierre will still win the standup battle..." Still? He didn't win the standup battle in the first fight. Look at his face at the end of the second round. It looked like Leatherface had cut off GSP's face and was wearing it like a mask. He controlled the fight by continually getting takedowns, but he didn't win the standup war. Wow, I thought the vast majority of people were picking GSP.

Huckaby wrote – “…St. Pierre will still win the standup battle…”

Still? He didn’t win the standup battle in the first fight. Look at his face at the end of the second round. It looked like Leatherface had cut off GSP’s face and was wearing it like a mask. He controlled the fight by continually getting takedowns, but he didn’t win the standup war.

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]]> By: john http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-65341 john Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:03:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11327#comment-65341 I also find it a bit funny that BJ as tiny as he is fought Lyoto to a decision in 05 at that K1 show. I also find it a bit funny that BJ as tiny as he is fought Lyoto to a decision in 05 at that K1 show.

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]]> By: john http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-65340 john Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:00:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11327#comment-65340 I can see how BJ could annoy people (i think he's hilarious) so I understand what you are saying Rich, I just get pissed when people don't give BJ enough credit, the guy is a freaking legend. Its hard for me to pick this fight because I like both the guys alot, and there is something wrong with you if you don't like Georges.However, while I think GSP is a great athlete and fighter, BJ is a straight up warrior. I can see how BJ could annoy people (i think he’s hilarious) so I understand what you are saying Rich, I just get pissed when people don’t give BJ enough credit, the guy is a freaking legend. Its hard for me to pick this fight because I like both the guys alot, and there is something wrong with you if you don’t like Georges.However, while I think GSP is a great athlete and fighter, BJ is a straight up warrior.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-65339 Rich S. Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:57:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11327#comment-65339 BJ's a beast in the cage, there's no doubt.. but he REALLY annoys me with all his prefight antics.. He always tries to make it personal. BJ’s a beast in the cage, there’s no doubt.. but he REALLY annoys me with all his prefight antics..

He always tries to make it personal.

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]]> By: john http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-65338 john Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:30:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11327#comment-65338 "Supposedly that’s one of his strengths" (about BJ's JJ) Well, in 2000 he became the first non-Brazilian to win the black belt division of the World Jiu-Jitsu Championship in Rio so I'd say he's pretty damn good. "Just to set my opinion on BJ Penn for the record, I hate his guts. He talks like a moron street thug with his “i’m gonna kill him” and all the rest of that. He is a disgrace to the real atheletes of the sport who train hard all the time. And after he loses tomorrow night he will go on to getting destroyed at 155 lbs by Kenny Florian and lose his 155lb title. Then people can stop talking about him even being anywhere near the best p4p." Are you serious? Have you ever watched BJ fight before? I suggest you do before you put your "opinion the record." You act like he is some pretty boy whose new the sport or something. Regardless of this fight BJ Penn is a legend. Also I love K Flo but Sherk handily beat him with one arm, and BJ Penn absolutely destroyed Sherk who was afraid to even wrestle with BJ for gosh sakes. Florian has no chance against Penn, nor does anyone in his weight class. “Supposedly that’s one of his strengths” (about BJ’s JJ)

Well, in 2000 he became the first non-Brazilian to win the black belt division of the World Jiu-Jitsu Championship in Rio so I’d say he’s pretty damn good.

“Just to set my opinion on BJ Penn for the record, I hate his guts. He talks like a moron street thug with his “i’m gonna kill him” and all the rest of that. He is a disgrace to the real atheletes of the sport who train hard all the time. And after he loses tomorrow night he will go on to getting destroyed at 155 lbs by Kenny Florian and lose his 155lb title. Then people can stop talking about him even being anywhere near the best p4p.”

Are you serious? Have you ever watched BJ fight before? I suggest you do before you put your “opinion the record.” You act like he is some pretty boy whose new the sport or something. Regardless of this fight BJ Penn is a legend. Also I love K Flo but Sherk handily beat him with one arm, and BJ Penn absolutely destroyed Sherk who was afraid to even wrestle with BJ for gosh sakes. Florian has no chance against Penn, nor does anyone in his weight class.

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]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-65334 Rich S. Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:57:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11327#comment-65334 Penn/GSP will be tough [well, it should be, i hope it does't end up like brock/randy or something where it's WAYYYYYY less of a struggle than people thought it would be] I just think GSP has come wayyyyy too far in his game to let BJ repeat the standup.. and since he was submitted by Matt Hughes he has improved his sub defense tremendously. I'm not sure how he's going to win, but i know he will.. I've never really liked BJ at WW, he'll probably gas near the 3rd and then it will be all downhill.. And i think Machida will win AGAIN.. Thiago's good, and he definitely know how to push the pace, but i can see it now.. he gets a little careless and takes a headkick that downs him and then Machida finishes him off.. As for Bonnar/Jones.. that one's actually a little tough for me too.. I mean, any time Stephen's fighting, i pick him to win.. but this Jon Jones dude is a freaking BEAST.. either way i gotta pick Stephen in this one.. he's a little better in both the standup and ground game.. Diaz/Guida is really tough to pick too.. I mean, i had Neer to beat Diaz last time around, and i though Danzig was gonna beat Guida [although i had him picked], and they BOTH proved me wrong.. They both looked GREAT in their last bouts.. I think Guida's really entered the next chapter in his career and he seems to be way smarter and more aware.. Diaz has yet to lose in the UFC and i just can't figure out who's going to be the one to beat him.. gahhhhh this one's hard but i'm goin' Diaz Penn/GSP will be tough [well, it should be, i hope it does't end up like brock/randy or something where it's WAYYYYYY less of a struggle than people thought it would be]
I just think GSP has come wayyyyy too far in his game to let BJ repeat the standup.. and since he was submitted by Matt Hughes he has improved his sub defense tremendously. I’m not sure how he’s going to win, but i know he will.. I’ve never really liked BJ at WW, he’ll probably gas near the 3rd and then it will be all downhill..

And i think Machida will win AGAIN.. Thiago’s good, and he definitely know how to push the pace, but i can see it now.. he gets a little careless and takes a headkick that downs him and then Machida finishes him off..

As for Bonnar/Jones.. that one’s actually a little tough for me too.. I mean, any time Stephen’s fighting, i pick him to win.. but this Jon Jones dude is a freaking BEAST.. either way i gotta pick Stephen in this one.. he’s a little better in both the standup and ground game..

Diaz/Guida is really tough to pick too..
I mean, i had Neer to beat Diaz last time around,
and i though Danzig was gonna beat Guida [although i had him picked], and they BOTH proved me wrong..
They both looked GREAT in their last bouts..
I think Guida’s really entered the next chapter in his career and he seems to be way smarter and more aware.. Diaz has yet to lose in the UFC and i just can’t figure out who’s going to be the one to beat him..
gahhhhh this one’s hard but i’m goin’ Diaz

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]]> By: Josh http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-65322 Josh Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:45:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11327#comment-65322 I cannot believe 2 of you picked Diaz by Decision??? If it goes to a decision it would have to be Clay because he is so aggressive. If Diaz fails to submit, we know how judges look at it when one fighter is on their back a large part of the time. Diaz by stoppage or Guida by decision! I cannot believe 2 of you picked Diaz by Decision??? If it goes to a decision it would have to be Clay because he is so aggressive. If Diaz fails to submit, we know how judges look at it when one fighter is on their back a large part of the time. Diaz by stoppage or Guida by decision!

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]]> By: Dylan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-65315 Dylan Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:10:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11327#comment-65315 p.s. In all seriousness though your embarassing yourself just stop p.s. In all seriousness though your embarassing yourself just stop

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]]> By: Dylan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-65314 Dylan Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:05:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11327#comment-65314 BigDave no one cares what you think do us all a favor and never post on here again if you knew anything you would know that BJ has never been submitted in mma so the odds of him getting choked out in less time than tim sylvia are about the same as you ever touching a woman.... NONE WHATSOEVER...... BigDave no one cares what you think do us all a favor and never post on here again if you knew anything you would know that BJ has never been submitted in mma so the odds of him getting choked out in less time than tim sylvia are about the same as you ever touching a woman…. NONE WHATSOEVER……

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]]> By: BigDave http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-65309 BigDave Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:52:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11327#comment-65309 Ill just give my predictions on the main card cause the undercard isnt worth my time. St. Pierre wins by RNC in the first 30 seconds of rd 1 Machida wins by UD AGAIN!!!! Bonner wins by Submission rd 2 Guida wins by Split Decision Kim wins by TKO due to strikes rd 2 Just to set my opinion on BJ Penn for the record, I hate his guts. He talks like a moron street thug with his "i'm gonna kill him" and all the rest of that. He is a disgrace to the real atheletes of the sport who train hard all the time. And after he loses tomorrow night he will go on to getting destroyed at 155 lbs by Kenny Florian and lose his 155lb title. Then people can stop talking about him even being anywhere near the best p4p. Ill just give my predictions on the main card cause the undercard isnt worth my time.

St. Pierre wins by RNC in the first 30 seconds of rd 1

Machida wins by UD AGAIN!!!!

Bonner wins by Submission rd 2

Guida wins by Split Decision

Kim wins by TKO due to strikes rd 2

Just to set my opinion on BJ Penn for the record, I hate his guts. He talks like a moron street thug with his “i’m gonna kill him” and all the rest of that. He is a disgrace to the real atheletes of the sport who train hard all the time. And after he loses tomorrow night he will go on to getting destroyed at 155 lbs by Kenny Florian and lose his 155lb title. Then people can stop talking about him even being anywhere near the best p4p.

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]]> By: Dylan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-65308 Dylan Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:41:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11327#comment-65308 huckaby the first fight was march of 06 thats way more than two years. huckaby the first fight was march of 06 thats way more than two years.

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]]> By: Mike Wolfe http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-65304 Mike Wolfe Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:08:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11327#comment-65304 I just watched the prior Penn/GSP fight. GSP's wrestling made the difference in that fight, and it's improved since then, imo. BJ relied on his striking, and hasn't done much of anything else since moving down to 155. I don't think he'll outstrike GSP,;he will be taken down\; and his best chance to win is by submission. He didn't try too many submissions the first time, and hasn't used any Jits since fighting lightweight, and I can't understand why. Supposedly that's one of his strengths. Also, wasn't Fitch in GSP's training camp? I watched a recent Prime Time episode and could have sworn that they showed his face. Whoever it was didn't get interviewed or even identified by name like Cerrone, Jardine, etc. I'd sure like to see his fight, especially if Karo pulls out. I just watched the prior Penn/GSP fight. GSP’s wrestling made the difference in that fight, and it’s improved since then, imo. BJ relied on his striking, and hasn’t done much of anything else since moving down to 155. I don’t think he’ll outstrike GSP,;he will be taken down\; and his best chance to win is by submission. He didn’t try too many submissions the first time, and hasn’t used any Jits since fighting lightweight, and I can’t understand why. Supposedly that’s one of his strengths.

Also, wasn’t Fitch in GSP’s training camp? I watched a recent Prime Time episode and could have sworn that they showed his face. Whoever it was didn’t get interviewed or even identified by name like Cerrone, Jardine, etc. I’d sure like to see his fight, especially if Karo pulls out.

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]]> By: john http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/01/30/pain-poll-the-5-oz-staff-predicts-and-previews-ufc-94/comment-page-1/#comment-65296 john Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:53:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11327#comment-65296 Man you guys are basically split on the GSP Penn fight, I cant wait. I am honestly a hundred times more excited about saturday night then I am for Sunday and I am a huge football fan. I am not a huge fan of Machida, but I am really looking forward to the fight to see if Silva can bring it to him, win, lose or draw I am just excited to see what Machida is going to do getting pressured constantly. Then there is the Diaz and Guida fight. I absolutely love Diaz and Hate Guida, but this is the test Nate needs at this point in his career. Man you guys are basically split on the GSP Penn fight, I cant wait. I am honestly a hundred times more excited about saturday night then I am for Sunday and I am a huge football fan. I am not a huge fan of Machida, but I am really looking forward to the fight to see if Silva can bring it to him, win, lose or draw I am just excited to see what Machida is going to do getting pressured constantly. Then there is the Diaz and Guida fight. I absolutely love Diaz and Hate Guida, but this is the test Nate needs at this point in his career.

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