Comments on: Report: Camp for B.J. Penn files complaint against Georges St. Pierre http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 20:16:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: BJ sucks and poor looser http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-66284 BJ sucks and poor looser Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:19:54 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-66284 Ok guys , basically BJ is a poor looser. Take it like a man and come back stronger. Now I really want a rematch and watch St Peirre destroy BJ again. Im a MMA fighter and watch MMA all my life. This happens all the time its normal for your corner to put vaseline or even vick on ur chest and nose so you can breath better. If you watch other fights same thing. I lost respect for BJ, he was a big mouth before now , he is a poor looser. Even if he had vaseline on his chest look at the outcome he couldnt even stand up. All I got to say is be a man suck it up and become a better fighter if you are top . This is joke and BJ you just made yourself into a whinning looser Ok guys , basically BJ is a poor looser. Take it like a man and come back stronger. Now I really want a rematch and watch St Peirre destroy BJ again.

Im a MMA fighter and watch MMA all my life. This happens all the time its normal for your corner to put vaseline or even vick on ur chest and nose so you can breath better. If you watch other fights same thing. I lost respect for BJ, he was a big mouth before now , he is a poor looser. Even if he had vaseline on his chest look at the outcome he couldnt even stand up. All I got to say is be a man suck it up and become a better fighter if you are top .

This is joke and BJ you just made yourself into a whinning looser

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]]> By: BMO http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65889 BMO Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:39:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65889 This comment is not an excuse for Penn losing. I do beleive that Penn was handled and that GSP did indeed take this alot more serously than Penn did and thus deserved to win. Also, I do not care much for Penn but I care even less for GSP. With that said, the fool(s) that say GSP had no idea what was being applied to him are just that, FOOLS!!! What if Barry Bonds said I had no idea my trainer was applying cream to my body, i was too busy listening to the batting coach, would you beleive this??? Also, nobody can confirm how much vasoline was applied to his body sothose that argue it was a very small amount really have no basis for saying that, define small amount? Explain what amount of vasoline on a fighters body would and could have an impact on the fight when the two fight on the ground! IMO, even a little is still a little advantage, your a little more slippery, a little harder to grasp, and when you have a guy that outweight's you, is on top of you, is one of the most athletic and skilled wresters in all the sport, it makes that little amount that much harder to overcome. In saying all of this I will repeat that I do beleive GSP would have won regardless. The determining factor in that decision was that based upon GSP beating Penn at the standup and seemingly having his way in the first round. I know the first was considered even, however (me voting for Penn) I felt as if GSP was more in control and looked more comfortable than PEnn in the first round. That's my rant, I don't hate GSP, I respect his dedication and skill, however his fans are a different story. Lastly, if you really think GSP is the P4P best fighter in the world than I urge you to find the 1st Serra fight again and watch it. If you could provide similar viewing for either A.Silva or Fedor than maybe we can talk, until then he will always be no.3!!! This comment is not an excuse for Penn losing. I do beleive that Penn was handled and that GSP did indeed take this alot more serously than Penn did and thus deserved to win. Also, I do not care much for Penn but I care even less for GSP.

With that said, the fool(s) that say GSP had no idea what was being applied to him are just that, FOOLS!!! What if Barry Bonds said I had no idea my trainer was applying cream to my body, i was too busy listening to the batting coach, would you beleive this???

Also, nobody can confirm how much vasoline was applied to his body sothose that argue it was a very small amount really have no basis for saying that, define small amount? Explain what amount of vasoline on a fighters body would and could have an impact on the fight when the two fight on the ground! IMO, even a little is still a little advantage, your a little more slippery, a little harder to grasp, and when you have a guy that outweight’s you, is on top of you, is one of the most athletic and skilled wresters in all the sport, it makes that little amount that much harder to overcome.

In saying all of this I will repeat that I do beleive GSP would have won regardless. The determining factor in that decision was that based upon GSP beating Penn at the standup and seemingly having his way in the first round. I know the first was considered even, however (me voting for Penn) I felt as if GSP was more in control and looked more comfortable than PEnn in the first round.

That’s my rant, I don’t hate GSP, I respect his dedication and skill, however his fans are a different story.

Lastly, if you really think GSP is the P4P best fighter in the world than I urge you to find the 1st Serra fight again and watch it. If you could provide similar viewing for either A.Silva or Fedor than maybe we can talk, until then he will always be no.3!!!

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]]> By: T-Dawg http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65843 T-Dawg Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:32:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65843 I am pretty sure in the early rounds, Jackson told GSP to kickbox BJ. This does not sound like advice with intentions to cheat with a greased back. I am pretty sure in the early rounds, Jackson told GSP to kickbox BJ. This does not sound like advice with intentions to cheat with a greased back.

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]]> By: Porsche930_Pilot http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65836 Porsche930_Pilot Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:31:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65836 Greasing up???? What the hell are you guys talking about? If you read the story they say he may of had a bit of vaseline still on his hands after wiping them and even so he wasn't rubbing vaseline all over GSP's back it was a small part of his back and shoulders again after wiping them first. GSP's corner has never had need to cheat and you guys who are saying this crap know it. BJ was in lousy shape considering this was such a huge fight and not just physically he was gassing half through the second round and maybe once or twice at the beginning of the fight he had a chance to try and tie George up but he just couldn't do it. So just get over it and stop trying to find anything to make an excuse for Penns loss. Greasing up???? What the hell are you guys talking about? If you read the story they say he may of had a bit of vaseline still on his hands after wiping them and even so he wasn’t rubbing vaseline all over GSP’s back it was a small part of his back and shoulders again after wiping them first. GSP’s corner has never had need to cheat and you guys who are saying this crap know it. BJ was in lousy shape considering this was such a huge fight and not just physically he was gassing half through the second round and maybe once or twice at the beginning of the fight he had a chance to try and tie George up but he just couldn’t do it. So just get over it and stop trying to find anything to make an excuse for Penns loss.

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]]> By: Jpheezy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65834 Jpheezy Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:18:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65834 Also in the 4th round GSP was warned three fucking times about hitting the back of BJ's head. He should have had a point taken away for that definitely. Anyone who is a MMA fan knows that getting hit in the back of the head can throw of your equilibrium. GSP even commented on that when he fought Matt Serra that first time. GSP said that he lost his equilibrium in the Serra fight and that is why he tapped. So BJ gets hit multiple times to the back of the head with 2 minutes to go in the 4th. Then at the end of that round he is unable to continue because he had no idea where he was. The strikes GSP inflicted weren't enough to cause that. GSP was wrestling most of the time. Then when he made a few strikes while BJ was on the ground all of the sudden FOR THE FIRST TIME BJ IS UNABLE TO CONTINUE. The same thing happened in the Hughes vs. Penn fight and BJ was fine after he got up. The difference between Hughes vs. Penn and GSP vs. Penn 2 was that GSP inflicted alot of strikes to the back of BJ's head. GSP LISTENS TO HIS CORNER PERFECTLY, BUT HE CAN'T HEAR HERB DEAN SAY STOP HITTING HIM IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS. Also in the 4th round GSP was warned three fucking times about hitting the back of BJ’s head. He should have had a point taken away for that definitely. Anyone who is a MMA fan knows that getting hit in the back of the head can throw of your equilibrium. GSP even commented on that when he fought Matt Serra that first time. GSP said that he lost his equilibrium in the Serra fight and that is why he tapped. So BJ gets hit multiple times to the back of the head with 2 minutes to go in the 4th. Then at the end of that round he is unable to continue because he had no idea where he was. The strikes GSP inflicted weren’t enough to cause that. GSP was wrestling most of the time. Then when he made a few strikes while BJ was on the ground all of the sudden FOR THE FIRST TIME BJ IS UNABLE TO CONTINUE. The same thing happened in the Hughes vs. Penn fight and BJ was fine after he got up. The difference between Hughes vs. Penn and GSP vs. Penn 2 was that GSP inflicted alot of strikes to the back of BJ’s head. GSP LISTENS TO HIS CORNER PERFECTLY, BUT HE CAN’T HEAR HERB DEAN SAY STOP HITTING HIM IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS.

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]]> By: Jpheezy http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65830 Jpheezy Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:56:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65830 First of all we are talking two of the very best fighters in the MMA I have much respect for both. GSP said that he wanted to fight the best BJ Penn. If anyone watched the post fight interview with GSP on ESPN MMA LIVE, then you heard GSP answer Frank Mir's Question of "What was the commotion about in between the rounds". George then answered "(MY TRAINER TOLD ME AFTER THE FIGHT) in between rounds 2 and 3 my trainer had a GOB of vaseline on his hand and was rubbing my shoulders and my back" that was what the commotion in GSP's corner was about. In that statement GSP basically said that he had no idea of that happening in between rounds and his trainer told him after the fight. That sounds like bullshit. How would you not know when your getting your shoulders and back greased up. If anyone saw the athletic commission was the first to acknowledge that incident. Also the person to remove the vaseline wasn't even a fucking referee it was MGM grand security and the wipe was very brief like 1 second. Once vaseline is on your skin a shower is the only thing to get it off I guess GSP had no idea that MGM grand security wiped his back off also. HE DEFINITELY KNEW. I have this whole fight recorded on my DVR in HI DEF and there is a big difference of how shiny GSP's back was in round 2 compared to round 3. And if you also look in the begining of round 3 GSP's eyebrows are white with vaseline and theres a big gob on his right eye. HIS CAMP IS GREASE HAPPY. CONCLUSION: If your a MMA fan how the fuck can any of you say that vaseline on a fighters back wasn't going to affect the outcome anyway?. And if your a MMA fan you know that this sport is unpredictable and you make one mistake and your caught in BJ's famous triangle choke. Everyone knows that the longer the fight goes the more slippery a fighter can get, but combined with vaseline on his back can make a difference in a fight. First of all we are talking two of the very best fighters in the MMA I have much respect for both. GSP said that he wanted to fight the best BJ Penn. If anyone watched the post fight interview with GSP on ESPN MMA LIVE, then you heard GSP answer Frank Mir’s Question of “What was the commotion about in between the rounds”. George then answered “(MY TRAINER TOLD ME AFTER THE FIGHT) in between rounds 2 and 3 my trainer had a GOB of vaseline on his hand and was rubbing my shoulders and my back” that was what the commotion in GSP’s corner was about. In that statement GSP basically said that he had no idea of that happening in between rounds and his trainer told him after the fight. That sounds like bullshit. How would you not know when your getting your shoulders and back greased up. If anyone saw the athletic commission was the first to acknowledge that incident. Also the person to remove the vaseline wasn’t even a fucking referee it was MGM grand security and the wipe was very brief like 1 second. Once vaseline is on your skin a shower is the only thing to get it off I guess GSP had no idea that MGM grand security wiped his back off also. HE DEFINITELY KNEW. I have this whole fight recorded on my DVR in HI DEF and there is a big difference of how shiny GSP’s back was in round 2 compared to round 3. And if you also look in the begining of round 3 GSP’s eyebrows are white with vaseline and theres a big gob on his right eye. HIS CAMP IS GREASE HAPPY.
CONCLUSION:
If your a MMA fan how the fuck can any of you say that vaseline on a fighters back wasn’t going to affect the outcome anyway?. And if your a MMA fan you know that this sport is unpredictable and you make one mistake and your caught in BJ’s famous triangle choke. Everyone knows that the longer the fight goes the more slippery a fighter can get, but combined with vaseline on his back can make a difference in a fight.

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]]> By: Axl http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65811 Axl Tue, 03 Feb 2009 02:32:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65811 Who cares about any of this crap man! Fedor still is the number one fighter in the world! Fedor and then, there's everybody else! Who cares about any of this crap man!
Fedor still is the number one fighter in the world!
Fedor and then, there’s everybody else!

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]]> By: king mah mah http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65795 king mah mah Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:56:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65795 You shouldn't let your opinions be swayed by who you like more as a fighter. Greasing up with vaseline is a really big deal, no matter if you think gsp would have "won anyway". I guess all you gsp fans would be saying the same thing if he was wearing brass knuckles or taking pcp before the fight! You shouldn’t let your opinions be swayed by who you like more as a fighter. Greasing up with vaseline is a really big deal, no matter if you think gsp would have “won anyway”. I guess all you gsp fans would be saying the same thing if he was wearing brass knuckles or taking pcp before the fight!

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]]> By: mikegspfan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65773 mikegspfan Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:14:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65773 seeker - your're right on the money. bj is a better fighter in his mind than in reality. he shot his mouth off as usual, he's spoiled and didn't back up his mouth. seeker – your’re right on the money. bj is a better fighter in his mind than in reality. he shot his mouth off as usual, he’s spoiled and didn’t back up his mouth.

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]]> By: seeker http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65769 seeker Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:44:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65769 Ok...give me a god-damn break! Penn just couldn't walk his talk, and that's why he's causing this controversy. He was done in the second round anyway. He couldn't handle GSP, so he's trying to make him look bad because of his own short-comings. Penn is just an idiot in my opinion, if he really thinks that's the reason he lost the fight. Face the truth BJ, you just weren't good enough! Ok…give me a god-damn break! Penn just couldn’t walk his talk, and that’s why he’s causing this controversy. He was done in the second round anyway. He couldn’t handle GSP, so he’s trying to make him look bad because of his own short-comings. Penn is just an idiot in my opinion, if he really thinks that’s the reason he lost the fight.

Face the truth BJ, you just weren’t good enough!

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]]> By: JDamico23 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65743 JDamico23 Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:43:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65743 This was about as dominating and decisive a victory can get...the vaseline was apparently wiped off before it even made it into a round so obviously it didnt come into play. GSP is just better than 13-5 BJ Penn...why is that so hard to accept This was about as dominating and decisive a victory can get…the vaseline was apparently wiped off before it even made it into a round so obviously it didnt come into play. GSP is just better than 13-5 BJ Penn…why is that so hard to accept

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]]> By: ACK! http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65715 ACK! Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:38:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65715 I know I don't have to point this out to anyone, but this is a big deal. In my opinion, greasing is as bad, if not worse than juicing because it's a direct form of cheating. Greasing directly effects the outcome of the fight and while it's relatively reversible (unlike juicing), the effect it has on a fight is exceptionally severe. I'd hate to see them rule a no contest or even rule in Penn's favor, but it's hard to argue that this doesn't deserve significant punishment. When it comes down to it, you just can't let fighters grease. It undermines the dynamics of the sport and if you let an elite fighter in a get away with it in a title fight then you are undermining the integrity of the sport. I know I don’t have to point this out to anyone, but this is a big deal. In my opinion, greasing is as bad, if not worse than juicing because it’s a direct form of cheating. Greasing directly effects the outcome of the fight and while it’s relatively reversible (unlike juicing), the effect it has on a fight is exceptionally severe.

I’d hate to see them rule a no contest or even rule in Penn’s favor, but it’s hard to argue that this doesn’t deserve significant punishment. When it comes down to it, you just can’t let fighters grease. It undermines the dynamics of the sport and if you let an elite fighter in a get away with it in a title fight then you are undermining the integrity of the sport.

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]]> By: kile http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65689 kile Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:33:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65689 i have to start off by saying i rele dont like bj penn, i am a canadian and gsp is one of my fav fighters, but bj has GOOD ground skills he was able to get gsp back to half guard and guard multiple times and while watching the fight i kept saying wow george must be sooooooo sweaty he was just poping out when ever he wanted, even joe rogan was crapping his pants at how ez he was getting out. The vaseline clearly effects the outcome of the fight, but that being said i honestly think george would have won either way hes just way bigger, stronger and more athletic then penn, and penn was gased after the 2nd, even if penn would have got a sub george would have ez got out just from brute strength. GSp vs silva wud be SUCH a good fight.....gsp is much better wrestler more muscular and athletic then silva, but silva has great muay thai and has the most accurate punching in MMA imo, and hes no newbie off his back ( and u cud bet ur top dollar wont even be vaseine near gsp in his next fights xD), i think it wud be the fight everyone thought gsp vs penn would be. i have to start off by saying i rele dont like bj penn, i am a canadian and gsp is one of my fav fighters, but bj has GOOD ground skills he was able to get gsp back to half guard and guard multiple times and while watching the fight i kept saying wow george must be sooooooo sweaty he was just poping out when ever he wanted, even joe rogan was crapping his pants at how ez he was getting out. The vaseline clearly effects the outcome of the fight, but that being said i honestly think george would have won either way hes just way bigger, stronger and more athletic then penn, and penn was gased after the 2nd, even if penn would have got a sub george would have ez got out just from brute strength.

GSp vs silva wud be SUCH a good fight…..gsp is much better wrestler more muscular and athletic then silva, but silva has great muay thai and has the most accurate punching in MMA imo, and hes no newbie off his back ( and u cud bet ur top dollar wont even be vaseine near gsp in his next fights xD), i think it wud be the fight everyone thought gsp vs penn would be.

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]]> By: mikegspfan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65685 mikegspfan Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:07:36 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65685 gsp always takes people down, bjj or not. watch his fights gsp always takes people down, bjj or not. watch his fights

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]]> By: Shaolin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65678 Shaolin Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:02:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65678 People are wanting to blame the corner man and not gsp and are saying that this should not be ruled a no contest because gsp didnt know about it... but comeon. If the NSAC find significant reason, (bj penn trying to pull rubber guard and his leg slipping off over and over again) something has to be done. BJ Penn is one of the best guys on his back IN THE WORLD. Watch his other fights and you have to agree. If you watch this fight he tried and tried to pull guard or get a triangle and he keeps slipping off. Having vasoline on your body against a BJJ guy is like having 10 pound weights strapped to a boxers hands. Im not going to say GSP was cheating if he didnt know about it but if anyone in his corner did anything to gain a ground advantage than something has to be done and this has to be ruled a no contest. GSP was beating him standing so why didnt he continue to stand? why did he constantly take a BJJ guy down knowing he could submit him at any time during the fight? Maybe he knew more than he is saying? People are wanting to blame the corner man and not gsp and are saying that this should not be ruled a no contest because gsp didnt know about it… but comeon. If the NSAC find significant reason, (bj penn trying to pull rubber guard and his leg slipping off over and over again) something has to be done. BJ Penn is one of the best guys on his back IN THE WORLD. Watch his other fights and you have to agree. If you watch this fight he tried and tried to pull guard or get a triangle and he keeps slipping off. Having vasoline on your body against a BJJ guy is like having 10 pound weights strapped to a boxers hands. Im not going to say GSP was cheating if he didnt know about it but if anyone in his corner did anything to gain a ground advantage than something has to be done and this has to be ruled a no contest. GSP was beating him standing so why didnt he continue to stand? why did he constantly take a BJJ guy down knowing he could submit him at any time during the fight? Maybe he knew more than he is saying?

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]]> By: Astrocreep75 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65670 Astrocreep75 Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:20:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65670 "I dont want to see GSP vs Anderson same reason i don’t want to see GSP vs BJ Penn . The bigger fighter will always win. GSP is a 170 fighter and doesn’t need to be moving up weight just so the UFC can bring in more cash. If the fight does happed Gsp with beat him Anderson is one of the most over rated fighters there is." t on February 1st, 2009 7:44 pm Which is it idiot? The bigger fighter always wins? or GSP will beat him? I'm certain you just proved yourself completely ignorant of MMA and GSP would most likely prefer that his fans be more educated than you, especially before posting on message boards. “I dont want to see GSP vs Anderson same reason i don’t want to see GSP vs BJ Penn . The bigger fighter will always win. GSP is a 170 fighter and doesn’t need to be moving up weight just so the UFC can bring in more cash.
If the fight does happed Gsp with beat him Anderson is one of the most over rated fighters there is.”
t on February 1st, 2009 7:44 pm

Which is it idiot? The bigger fighter always wins? or GSP will beat him?
I’m certain you just proved yourself completely ignorant of MMA and GSP would most likely prefer that his fans be more educated than you, especially before posting on message boards.

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]]> By: mikegspfan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65668 mikegspfan Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:18:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65668 if gsp's back is covered in vaseline then that translates to bj's legs and arms being covered in vaseline from the multiple submission attempts from the bottom. This should have hindered gsp as well - having bj all slippery. However gsp was able to grab the legs of a slippery bj and take him down at will multiple times. How is this possible? Bj is supposed to be incredibly hard to take down and very flexible. Vaseline would only make it harder for gsp as well. if gsp’s back is covered in vaseline then that translates to bj’s legs and arms being covered in vaseline from the multiple submission attempts from the bottom. This should have hindered gsp as well – having bj all slippery.
However gsp was able to grab the legs of a slippery bj and take him down at will multiple times. How is this possible? Bj is supposed to be incredibly hard to take down and very flexible. Vaseline would only make it harder for gsp as well.

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]]> By: roflWhineAndQuitter http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65667 roflWhineAndQuitter Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:10:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65667 so if indeed the vaseline was put on gsp,would that change the fact that BJ was gassed after 2nd round? he allready look like he quitted there and didnt wanna go out for the 3rd round. if BJ's cardio was as good as hes trash talk he might would have won,but he should accept the loss and stop with the excuses. he even lost the standup witch should be where hes suppose to dominate,but i guess the vaseline made an impact on that too right? so if indeed the vaseline was put on gsp,would that change the fact that BJ was gassed after 2nd round? he allready look like he quitted there and didnt wanna go out for the 3rd round.

if BJ’s cardio was as good as hes trash talk he might would have won,but he should accept the loss and stop with the excuses.
he even lost the standup witch should be where hes suppose to dominate,but i guess the vaseline made an impact on that too right?

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]]> By: king mah mah http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65661 king mah mah Mon, 02 Feb 2009 06:31:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65661 This absolutely changes the fights outcome. If it didn't matter then every fighter would be allowed to cover his entire body with vasoline. Don't give me this shit that GSP was dominating anyway. If that's the case then why did they feel the need to rub vasoline on him?! They obviously knew that BJ would have a good chance at submitting him and tried to avoid it. The fact that Dana says it wouldn't have changed the outcome only proves that it would have. Come on now, he can't openly say that this "historic" fight was rigged in one fighters favor. If this holds any truth at all, then we can easily discredit GSP's win. This absolutely changes the fights outcome. If it didn’t matter then every fighter would be allowed to cover his entire body with vasoline. Don’t give me this shit that GSP was dominating anyway. If that’s the case then why did they feel the need to rub vasoline on him?! They obviously knew that BJ would have a good chance at submitting him and tried to avoid it. The fact that Dana says it wouldn’t have changed the outcome only proves that it would have. Come on now, he can’t openly say that this “historic” fight was rigged in one fighters favor. If this holds any truth at all, then we can easily discredit GSP’s win.

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]]> By: Porsche930_Pilot http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/01/report-camp-for-bj-penn-files-complaint-against-georges-st-pierre/comment-page-1/#comment-65659 Porsche930_Pilot Mon, 02 Feb 2009 06:23:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=11500#comment-65659 This is just bull, it was wiped off right then and it's not like his back was covered in Vaseline to begin with. This will be BJ's reason for the out come because he's like a spoiled kid and we all know that's because that's the way he grew up, getting what ever he wanted. Their just sore losers. I mean I could see wanting to make something out of this if it was a very close fight and came down to a decision by the judges but it was so so far from that so just get over it Penn & team you still hold a belt. This is just bull, it was wiped off right then and it’s not like his back was covered in Vaseline to begin with. This will be BJ’s reason for the out come because he’s like a spoiled kid and we all know that’s because that’s the way he grew up, getting what ever he wanted. Their just sore losers. I mean I could see wanting to make something out of this if it was a very close fight and came down to a decision by the judges but it was so so far from that so just get over it Penn & team you still hold a belt.

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