Comments on: Postcard from the Couch: Sanchez vs. Stevenson http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 20:16:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: PlagueAngel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67486 PlagueAngel Wed, 25 Feb 2009 05:18:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67486 Rogan gives credit to his comedy and life achievements to god's plant which is marijuana. He claims he is under the effects live on stage and UFC events. I think its interesting-spark up Joe! Rogan gives credit to his comedy and life achievements to god’s plant which is marijuana. He claims he is under the effects live on stage and UFC events. I think its interesting-spark up Joe!

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]]> By: ultmma http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67476 ultmma Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:05:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67476 lol rolling what now with Rogan? yes, bring the "on the mat with Marc Lamion" when was the last UFC that had one of those segments UFC 48 DVD? 2 thing causal or first time MMA viewers took away from the1st Elite XC on CBS broadcast was 1.) what the hell was growing on that guy's ear? 2.) that 2 minute segment with Frank Shamrock explaining the basic basic elements of MMA was very helpful and informative looking at the PPV numbers and the Spike card numbers there is obviously an abundance of new MMA or UFC fans coming to the table to watch these cards a MMA 101 segment would be time well spent on these Spike broadcasts lol rolling what now with Rogan?

yes, bring the “on the mat with Marc Lamion” when was the last UFC that had one of those segments UFC 48 DVD?

2 thing causal or first time MMA viewers took away from the1st Elite XC on CBS broadcast was 1.) what the hell was growing on that guy’s ear? 2.) that 2 minute segment with Frank Shamrock explaining the basic basic elements of MMA was very helpful and informative

looking at the PPV numbers and the Spike card numbers there is obviously an abundance of new MMA or UFC fans coming to the table to watch these cards

a MMA 101 segment would be time well spent on these Spike broadcasts

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]]> By: Lee Gerowitz http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67475 Lee Gerowitz Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:55:02 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67475 Angry Mike, it's already happened. But thank you for the reminder:) Angry Mike, it’s already happened. But thank you for the reminder:)

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]]> By: Angry Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67473 Angry Mike Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:36:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67473 Lee: I hate to break it to you, but feeling old because somebody calls you "Mr." is just the beginning. Wait until you realize that some fighter you like or a very attractive young lady you've just met was born while or after you were in high school. Too depressed to drink at that point. Lee:

I hate to break it to you, but feeling old because somebody calls you “Mr.” is just the beginning. Wait until you realize that some fighter you like or a very attractive young lady you’ve just met was born while or after you were in high school. Too depressed to drink at that point.

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]]> By: perfecto http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67467 perfecto Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:55:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67467 Joe Rogan is annoying I would rather hear Mir on WEC Joe Rogan is annoying I would rather hear Mir on WEC

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]]> By: Lee Gerowitz http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67466 Lee Gerowitz Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:26:00 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67466 This is depressing...for the first time in my life someone called me "Mr." I am officially old. mu_shin, regarding your wanting to hear "a little more acknowledgment that Goldberg is not a beginner/novice in the sport" comment... In my opinion, if Goldberg comes out on air and states his credentials, it may come off as a "look at me" type of statement. However, if Rogan ever acknowledged Goldberg's credentials on air by saying something to the effect of, "And Mike, I know you understand what I'm saying since you practice BJJ yourself," then that may be a more subtle way of letting the viewers know his credentials. Personally, I'd like to see produced segments with Goldberg and Rogan where Goldberg sets up Rogan demonstrating various moves/techniques with other UFC fighters. What he'd demonstrate would depend on what fight they're leading into, who is fighting next, etc etc. It could be a segment called "Rolling With Rogan." And if you know Rogan, "rolling" has a couple of different meanings:) This is depressing…for the first time in my life someone called me “Mr.” I am officially old.

mu_shin, regarding your wanting to hear “a little more acknowledgment that Goldberg is not a beginner/novice in the sport” comment…

In my opinion, if Goldberg comes out on air and states his credentials, it may come off as a “look at me” type of statement. However, if Rogan ever acknowledged Goldberg’s credentials on air by saying something to the effect of, “And Mike, I know you understand what I’m saying since you practice BJJ yourself,” then that may be a more subtle way of letting the viewers know his credentials.

Personally, I’d like to see produced segments with Goldberg and Rogan where Goldberg sets up Rogan demonstrating various moves/techniques with other UFC fighters. What he’d demonstrate would depend on what fight they’re leading into, who is fighting next, etc etc. It could be a segment called “Rolling With Rogan.” And if you know Rogan, “rolling” has a couple of different meanings:)

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]]> By: orlis http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67464 orlis Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:33:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67464 I like Joe Rogan and think he's a funny guy, and very knowlegeable. But he YELLS into the mic too much. I mean, he has a mic, so he doesn't need to yell - that's the purpose of the mic! Goldberg is just as intense and knowledgeable, but is much easier to listen to during the fights! Joe - you're great man, but tone it down a bit! I like Joe Rogan and think he’s a funny guy, and very knowlegeable. But he YELLS into the mic too much. I mean, he has a mic, so he doesn’t need to yell – that’s the purpose of the mic! Goldberg is just as intense and knowledgeable, but is much easier to listen to during the fights! Joe – you’re great man, but tone it down a bit!

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]]> By: mu_shin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67455 mu_shin Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:45:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67455 Mr. Gerowitz, Appreciative of your thoughts regarding the production values, as fifteen plus years in television production certainly qualifies you for these comments. I'm not sure many fans are as involved in analyzing the show from this perspective, but there were many posts on several of the MMA sites I read regularly concerning the perceived production quality or lack thereof of the recent Affliction event, so I guess fans are aware of production values. I became a Joe Rogan fan when I learned he was a full contact tae kwon do champion when he was younger, but he never mentioned it on any of the broadcasts I saw him do for the UFC. I learned it reading about Rogan when I was wondering "Why do I want to listen to this guy talk about MMA?'", and did some research. I've subsequently learned both he and Mike Goldberg are active BJJ students, and I respect their opinions more because of it. The only thing I'd like to hear more of from these guys is a little more acknowledgment that Goldberg is not a beginner/novice in the sport, and that after broadcasting so many events together, his opinions are often as insightful and knowledgeable as Rogan's. I know a lot of people find Goldberg a bit over the top, but I think he contributes to the overall entertainment value of the events he participates in by creating atmosphere and an air of excitement. Mr. Gerowitz,

Appreciative of your thoughts regarding the production values, as fifteen plus years in television production certainly qualifies you for these comments. I’m not sure many fans are as involved in analyzing the show from this perspective, but there were many posts on several of the MMA sites I read regularly concerning the perceived production quality or lack thereof of the recent Affliction event, so I guess fans are aware of production values.

I became a Joe Rogan fan when I learned he was a full contact tae kwon do champion when he was younger, but he never mentioned it on any of the broadcasts I saw him do for the UFC. I learned it reading about Rogan when I was wondering “Why do I want to listen to this guy talk about MMA?’”, and did some research. I’ve subsequently learned both he and Mike Goldberg are active BJJ students, and I respect their opinions more because of it. The only thing I’d like to hear more of from these guys is a little more acknowledgment that Goldberg is not a beginner/novice in the sport, and that after broadcasting so many events together, his opinions are often as insightful and knowledgeable as Rogan’s. I know a lot of people find Goldberg a bit over the top, but I think he contributes to the overall entertainment value of the events he participates in by creating atmosphere and an air of excitement.

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]]> By: Lee Gerowitz http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67447 Lee Gerowitz Tue, 24 Feb 2009 02:09:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67447 I'm always appreciative of any feedback, positive or negative, so thank you very much for that. I always like interacting with folks in here, even if they hate my stuff:) Having said that - VENOM - praising them for finding time to show nine fights and criticizing them for not giving us Kos are two completely different things. Yes, you CAN have both. There are many elements to a broadcast. What I felt was a necessary post-fight interview, you can certainly add in, in place of something else. It's subjective as to what you can lose, but your "you can't have both" statement is not accurate. Regarding interviewing Kos, "undrafted" made a very valid point in his earlier post. As for this column being "the Chairman of the Joe Rogan Fan Club" - the guy does a fantastic job, and as long as he does so IMO, I'll say it. Of course some of his shows are better than others. If a fighter is continually good, we praise them, so why not an analyst? If he's good, he'd good...end of story. If he isn't, point out some specific reasons why he isn't. Keep the feedback coming, thanks! I’m always appreciative of any feedback, positive or negative, so thank you very much for that. I always like interacting with folks in here, even if they hate my stuff:) Having said that – VENOM – praising them for finding time to show nine fights and criticizing them for not giving us Kos are two completely different things. Yes, you CAN have both. There are many elements to a broadcast. What I felt was a necessary post-fight interview, you can certainly add in, in place of something else. It’s subjective as to what you can lose, but your “you can’t have both” statement is not accurate.

Regarding interviewing Kos, “undrafted” made a very valid point in his earlier post. As for this column being “the Chairman of the Joe Rogan Fan Club” – the guy does a fantastic job, and as long as he does so IMO, I’ll say it. Of course some of his shows are better than others. If a fighter is continually good, we praise them, so why not an analyst? If he’s good, he’d good…end of story. If he isn’t, point out some specific reasons why he isn’t.

Keep the feedback coming, thanks!

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]]> By: VENOM http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67442 VENOM Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:14:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67442 This guy needs to make up his mind! Did anyone else notice how this writer praises the UFC early the article for being able to air 9 fights? But then, just a few paragraphs farther into the article, he bashes the UFC for not airing a post-fight interview with Koscheck and Thiago. Do you want to be able to see as many fights as possible, or do you want to see post-fight interviews? YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH! I hate when writers contradict themselves, in the same damn article! This guy needs to make up his mind! Did anyone else notice how this writer praises the UFC early the article for being able to air 9 fights? But then, just a few paragraphs farther into the article, he bashes the UFC for not airing a post-fight interview with Koscheck and Thiago. Do you want to be able to see as many fights as possible, or do you want to see post-fight interviews? YOU CAN’T HAVE BOTH! I hate when writers contradict themselves, in the same damn article!

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]]> By: 3OAM http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67440 3OAM Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:14:03 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67440 Joe Rogan, on top of being a good commentator for UFC, is my favorite stand-up comedian. He's hilarious. I have three of his albums on my iPod and his revelations and observations are spot-on, well-delivered, and honest. I'm a big fan of Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan, on top of being a good commentator for UFC, is my favorite stand-up comedian. He’s hilarious.

I have three of his albums on my iPod and his revelations and observations are spot-on, well-delivered, and honest. I’m a big fan of Joe Rogan.

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]]> By: Angry Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67434 Angry Mike Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:40:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67434 I don't think Rogan's point about Thiago's stand up and low left hand was wrong just because Thiago caught Koscheck and ko'd him. All that proves is that Koscheck wasn't able to recognize or a least exploit the flaw. And for the record, I'll never be able to tell whether the stoppage was premature. Koscheck had his hands up to block shots when the ref jumped in. Maybe Koscheck was still stunned, but until he ate another punch or two, I couldn't tell whether he was finished. Because I couldn't tell, I'd have to agree that Koscheck may have a point. I don’t think Rogan’s point about Thiago’s stand up and low left hand was wrong just because Thiago caught Koscheck and ko’d him. All that proves is that Koscheck wasn’t able to recognize or a least exploit the flaw. And for the record, I’ll never be able to tell whether the stoppage was premature. Koscheck had his hands up to block shots when the ref jumped in. Maybe Koscheck was still stunned, but until he ate another punch or two, I couldn’t tell whether he was finished. Because I couldn’t tell, I’d have to agree that Koscheck may have a point.

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]]> By: Broncos1998 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67431 Broncos1998 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:19:06 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67431 Postcard from the Couch has to be the Chairman of the Joe Rogan Fan Club. Rogan has his good days and his bad days but the praise lavished on him here is way over the top. He rightfully noted Thiago's standup weaknesses but it was hilarious to see Thiago knock Koscheck silly and have Rogan scramble a bit. To his credit, Rogan did note that the ref ended the fight correctly and timely. Rogan's biggest problem is that, in my opinion, he lets his preconceived notions of fighters get in the way of calling the action. I would rather listen to Rutten any day. Ranallo and Rutten will always be the gold standard. Postcard from the Couch has to be the Chairman of the Joe Rogan Fan Club. Rogan has his good days and his bad days but the praise lavished on him here is way over the top. He rightfully noted Thiago’s standup weaknesses but it was hilarious to see Thiago knock Koscheck silly and have Rogan scramble a bit. To his credit, Rogan did note that the ref ended the fight correctly and timely. Rogan’s biggest problem is that, in my opinion, he lets his preconceived notions of fighters get in the way of calling the action. I would rather listen to Rutten any day. Ranallo and Rutten will always be the gold standard.

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]]> By: hindsightufuk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67429 hindsightufuk Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:54:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67429 actually yeah, the first hour or so of the show seemed to be running at slightly above normal speed, it wasnt fluent, something was definitely up actually yeah, the first hour or so of the show seemed to be running at slightly above normal speed, it wasnt fluent, something was definitely up

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]]> By: screwface http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67423 screwface Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:04:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67423 another complaint. i dont know if it was just dishnetwork subscribers or not, but the show wasnt in sync for the first half ( words didnt match mouths and sounds were off) commercials were fine so i think this may have been a fault of spike. another complaint. i dont know if it was just dishnetwork subscribers or not, but the show wasnt in sync for the first half ( words didnt match mouths and sounds were off) commercials were fine so i think this may have been a fault of spike.

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]]> By: undrafted http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67422 undrafted Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:28:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67422 There is a video floating around with Kos being interviewed back in the dressing room. Even then he wasn't really "taking questions". I somewhat agree with your point but also caution having just-concussed fighters become vulnerable for saying something they wouldn't an hour later. Most sports give the losers a half hour or so before doing interviews backstage. Partly out of respect, partly out of caution as "sore loser" moments can damage a popular athlete's image. There is a video floating around with Kos being interviewed back in the dressing room. Even then he wasn’t really “taking questions”. I somewhat agree with your point but also caution having just-concussed fighters become vulnerable for saying something they wouldn’t an hour later. Most sports give the losers a half hour or so before doing interviews backstage. Partly out of respect, partly out of caution as “sore loser” moments can damage a popular athlete’s image.

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]]> By: hindsightufuk http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67421 hindsightufuk Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:14:55 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67421 in the UK we got to watch all 10 fightson Setanta, including the Paul Kelly Troy Melendoz fight. Cant remember for sure but i think that was last one of the night shown. in the UK we got to watch all 10 fightson Setanta, including the Paul Kelly Troy Melendoz fight. Cant remember for sure but i think that was last one of the night shown.

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]]> By: swedishdeath http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/02/23/postcard-from-the-couch-sanchez-vs-stevenson/comment-page-1/#comment-67419 swedishdeath Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:08:28 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12393#comment-67419 great article,i agree with the stoppage of the koscheck fight.it was clear he was out before he hit the ground,though the ground is probably what woke him up.regardless,protection of the fighters is the most important thing.i also agree with you about joe rogan,the guy knows what he is talking about not only that but sometimes he can come across as downright funny.(he is a standup comedian,afterall).ive seen many people on the internet slam joe rogan and mike goldberg and to those people i have to say "i dont know about you but i was busy watching the fight,i could care less about what is being said during the fight,unless of course its funny."ufc 95 delivered and for free! great article,i agree with the stoppage of the koscheck fight.it was clear he was out before he hit the ground,though the ground is probably what woke him up.regardless,protection of the fighters is the most important thing.i also agree with you about joe rogan,the guy knows what he is talking about not only that but sometimes he can come across as downright funny.(he is a standup comedian,afterall).ive seen many people on the internet slam joe rogan and mike goldberg and to those people i have to say “i dont know about you but i was busy watching the fight,i could care less about what is being said during the fight,unless of course its funny.”ufc 95 delivered and for free!

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