Comments on: Mir vs. Lesnar II official for UFC 98 on May 23 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/02/mir-vs-lesnar-ii-official-for-ufc-98-on-may-23/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 22:51:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: RU486 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/02/mir-vs-lesnar-ii-official-for-ufc-98-on-may-23/comment-page-1/#comment-67730 RU486 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:03:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12544#comment-67730 My only regret with this fight is that I can't wait until it's over so I can see Brock face-off with either Gonzaga or Carwin. Both of these fighters are close to Brock's size, and have the ability to make a Lesnar fight one for the ages. My only regret with this fight is that I can’t wait until it’s over so I can see Brock face-off with either Gonzaga or Carwin. Both of these fighters are close to Brock’s size, and have the ability to make a Lesnar fight one for the ages.

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]]> By: RU486 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/02/mir-vs-lesnar-ii-official-for-ufc-98-on-may-23/comment-page-1/#comment-67728 RU486 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:54:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12544#comment-67728 I like Mir in this fight. Brock is going to be a little bit apprehensive after his total domination and then sudden defeat at the hands of Frank Mir. Notable attributes: - Mir has gained weight since the last fight. He was always a big fighter, but Brock won't have nearly as big of a size advantage in this fight. - Mir is confident after finishing Nog. CroCop couldn't do it, Fedor couldn't do it (three times), but Mir did it in devastating fashion. -Brock wants to take the fight to the ground? Big mistake. No heavyweight has jitz like Mir off his back. Nog has phenomenal jitz, but not off his back like Mir. Frank is absolutely comfortable off his back. Even with the barrage of cinder blocks coming down on his head (as in UFC 81). -If the fight goes into the latter rounds, we don't know what to expect from either fighter. I'm not questioning Brock's conditioning here, I'm questioning his affinity for going full throttle from the get-go. How long can his huge body handle the assertion after a 25 lb+ weight cut. Mir's conditioning has often been questioned. However, I don't foresee him coming into this fight out of shape. He knows what's in front of him and what he must do. I could be wrong, but I see this fight ending much of the same as the last one except for maybe it will take 10 minutes instead of 1. I like Mir in this fight. Brock is going to be a little bit apprehensive after his total domination and then sudden defeat at the hands of Frank Mir.

Notable attributes:

- Mir has gained weight since the last fight. He was always a big fighter, but Brock won’t have nearly as big of a size advantage in this fight.

- Mir is confident after finishing Nog. CroCop couldn’t do it, Fedor couldn’t do it (three times), but Mir did it in devastating fashion.

-Brock wants to take the fight to the ground? Big mistake. No heavyweight has jitz like Mir off his back. Nog has phenomenal jitz, but not off his back like Mir. Frank is absolutely comfortable off his back. Even with the barrage of cinder blocks coming down on his head (as in UFC 81).

-If the fight goes into the latter rounds, we don’t know what to expect from either fighter. I’m not questioning Brock’s conditioning here, I’m questioning his affinity for going full throttle from the get-go. How long can his huge body handle the assertion after a 25 lb+ weight cut. Mir’s conditioning has often been questioned. However, I don’t foresee him coming into this fight out of shape. He knows what’s in front of him and what he must do.

I could be wrong, but I see this fight ending much of the same as the last one except for maybe it will take 10 minutes instead of 1.

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]]> By: Angry Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/02/mir-vs-lesnar-ii-official-for-ufc-98-on-may-23/comment-page-1/#comment-67726 Angry Mike Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:25:56 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12544#comment-67726 Mir has a better chance to beat Lesnar than any other heavyweight not including Fedor. Mir's stand up against 'Nog was very impressive, landing the uppercut at will and throwing great combinations. Lesnar's big advantage is his power and quick takedowns, but Mir has proven he can win with his BJJ from the bottom. On the other hand, because of Lesnar's power, I don't think Mir can stay on his back too long without being pounded out. And Lesnar's so big and fast that I'm not sure Mir could get back to his feet after he's been taken down, which he will. It's an even money bet imo, but I don't think we'll see a third round. Mir has a better chance to beat Lesnar than any other heavyweight not including Fedor. Mir’s stand up against ‘Nog was very impressive, landing the uppercut at will and throwing great combinations. Lesnar’s big advantage is his power and quick takedowns, but Mir has proven he can win with his BJJ from the bottom. On the other hand, because of Lesnar’s power, I don’t think Mir can stay on his back too long without being pounded out. And Lesnar’s so big and fast that I’m not sure Mir could get back to his feet after he’s been taken down, which he will. It’s an even money bet imo, but I don’t think we’ll see a third round.

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/02/mir-vs-lesnar-ii-official-for-ufc-98-on-may-23/comment-page-1/#comment-67723 Jstew3785 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:49:20 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12544#comment-67723 Lesnar by first round stoppage, like the first fight should have been. Until Steve Mazagatti intervened that is. Man, that guy has one of the dirtiest mustaches in all of MMA. He looks like an out of work porn star. Anyway, I wouldn't want to mess with a pissed off and motivated Brock Lesnar. He still has a lot to prove, but I think he can do it. Lesnar by first round stoppage, like the first fight should have been. Until Steve Mazagatti intervened that is. Man, that guy has one of the dirtiest mustaches in all of MMA. He looks like an out of work porn star. Anyway, I wouldn’t want to mess with a pissed off and motivated Brock Lesnar. He still has a lot to prove, but I think he can do it.

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]]> By: mu_shin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/02/mir-vs-lesnar-ii-official-for-ufc-98-on-may-23/comment-page-1/#comment-67721 mu_shin Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:56:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12544#comment-67721 Really interesting evolution that has taken place in terms of people's perceptions of these two fighters. So many hardcore fans gave Mir no chance in the first fight with Lesnar. Many many blog posters gave Lesnar really long odds against Randy Couture, and believed Lesnar did not deserve to fight the embattled aging champion. Then the Mir/Nogueira matchup happens, and again, blog posts were at least 20-1 saying Mir had no chance against Big Nog. Mir's victory was touted as one of the biggest upsets in the sport's history, setting up this contest for the undisputed UFC Heavyweight Championship. After Brock's destruction of Heath Herring, and knockout victory over Randy Couture, I think he's demonstrated his worthiness. He may still be new to the sport, but his innate gifts and punishing work ethic have proven big strides can be made in a short period of time. Mir's standup knockout of Nogueira puts him squarely among the best, especially considering most people think of him as a submission ground fighter. As a fan of both fighters, I hope this fight will live up to it's potential for greatness, and provide a showcase for everything MMA has become, and can be. Can't tell you how much I would love to see a MIr victory by submission, but I'm thinking Brock will make the price for victory much higher this time around. Really interesting evolution that has taken place in terms of people’s perceptions of these two fighters. So many hardcore fans gave Mir no chance in the first fight with Lesnar. Many many blog posters gave Lesnar really long odds against Randy Couture, and believed Lesnar did not deserve to fight the embattled aging champion.

Then the Mir/Nogueira matchup happens, and again, blog posts were at least 20-1 saying Mir had no chance against Big Nog. Mir’s victory was touted as one of the biggest upsets in the sport’s history, setting up this contest for the undisputed UFC Heavyweight Championship.

After Brock’s destruction of Heath Herring, and knockout victory over Randy Couture, I think he’s demonstrated his worthiness. He may still be new to the sport, but his innate gifts and punishing work ethic have proven big strides can be made in a short period of time. Mir’s standup knockout of Nogueira puts him squarely among the best, especially considering most people think of him as a submission ground fighter. As a fan of both fighters, I hope this fight will live up to it’s potential for greatness, and provide a showcase for everything MMA has become, and can be.

Can’t tell you how much I would love to see a MIr victory by submission, but I’m thinking Brock will make the price for victory much higher this time around.

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]]> By: Cathedron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/02/mir-vs-lesnar-ii-official-for-ufc-98-on-may-23/comment-page-1/#comment-67719 Cathedron Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:21:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12544#comment-67719 I'm really looking forward to this. Both fighters have improved dramatically in the last year. I'm actually expecting most of this fight to take place on the feet. Lesnar should have the advantage in every way except that he can't afford to make a single mistake without Mir catching him in a sub. Damn, this will good. I agree with Getiton, I'm extremely curious about the odds as well. I’m really looking forward to this. Both fighters have improved dramatically in the last year. I’m actually expecting most of this fight to take place on the feet. Lesnar should have the advantage in every way except that he can’t afford to make a single mistake without Mir catching him in a sub. Damn, this will good. I agree with Getiton, I’m extremely curious about the odds as well.

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]]> By: GetItOn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/02/mir-vs-lesnar-ii-official-for-ufc-98-on-may-23/comment-page-1/#comment-67700 GetItOn Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:16:21 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12544#comment-67700 Fedor's not fighting. Wow, this is a great matchup once again. I was at UFC 81 and wow was I happy when Mir pulled off the win after all the heat he had coming down on him from Lesnar. I really hope Mir pulls it off again but wow it's going to be even rougher this time. All I can say is good luck to bother because this is really a tough one to call. Can't wait to see the odds. Fedor’s not fighting. Wow, this is a great matchup once again. I was at UFC 81 and wow was I happy when Mir pulled off the win after all the heat he had coming down on him from Lesnar. I really hope Mir pulls it off again but wow it’s going to be even rougher this time. All I can say is good luck to bother because this is really a tough one to call. Can’t wait to see the odds.

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]]> By: s00nertp http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/02/mir-vs-lesnar-ii-official-for-ufc-98-on-may-23/comment-page-1/#comment-67697 s00nertp Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:26:46 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12544#comment-67697 Fedor by arm bar in round 1 Fedor by arm bar in round 1

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]]> By: Orwell http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/02/mir-vs-lesnar-ii-official-for-ufc-98-on-may-23/comment-page-1/#comment-67696 Orwell Tue, 03 Mar 2009 06:00:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12544#comment-67696 Both fighters are going to be better on the night than in their previous match and have good reason to feel confident. Each are coming off decisive wins over MMA legends. I still think Lesnar should have had do to more to get to a title shot but, meh, a good fight is a good fight. Both fighters are going to be better on the night than in their previous match and have good reason to feel confident. Each are coming off decisive wins over MMA legends. I still think Lesnar should have had do to more to get to a title shot but, meh, a good fight is a good fight.

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]]> By: c http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/02/mir-vs-lesnar-ii-official-for-ufc-98-on-may-23/comment-page-1/#comment-67695 c Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:57:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12544#comment-67695 I just hope Lesnar doesn't kill anybody before being kicked out of the fight game. He has no regard for other peoples safety. I worry about Mir and hope he brings his A game. I just hope Lesnar doesn’t kill anybody before being kicked out of the fight game. He has no regard for other peoples safety. I worry about Mir and hope he brings his A game.

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]]> By: KTru http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/02/mir-vs-lesnar-ii-official-for-ufc-98-on-may-23/comment-page-1/#comment-67692 KTru Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:00:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12544#comment-67692 “I’m delighted to have a rematch against Frank Muuuur,” said Lesnar. “I can’t wait to get my revenge and finish this fight on the ground the way it should have been finished last time.” lol “I’m delighted to have a rematch against Frank Muuuur,” said Lesnar. “I can’t wait to get my revenge and finish this fight on the ground the way it should have been finished last time.”

lol

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]]> By: Jak http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/02/mir-vs-lesnar-ii-official-for-ufc-98-on-may-23/comment-page-1/#comment-67690 Jak Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:27:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12544#comment-67690 How can anybody not be excited for this fight... so much potential and build up. it's going to be awesome! How can anybody not be excited for this fight… so much potential and build up. it’s going to be awesome!

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