Comments on: Random Rants: UFC 96 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/random-rants-thoughts-on-ufc-96/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 20:16:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/random-rants-thoughts-on-ufc-96/comment-page-1/#comment-68044 Jstew3785 Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:32:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12744#comment-68044 Thanks PlagueAngel. I can't wait to see what they have next for Carwin. If Velasquez can beat Herring, they should have them face off to see who is the #1 contender. Now this is strictly my gut opinion, but I see a title in Carwin's future sometime in 2010. I'm curious to see what his contract is and how many fights he has left. I imagine when he signs his new deal it will be substantially more and then he will start training full time. Thanks PlagueAngel. I can’t wait to see what they have next for Carwin. If Velasquez can beat Herring, they should have them face off to see who is the #1 contender. Now this is strictly my gut opinion, but I see a title in Carwin’s future sometime in 2010. I’m curious to see what his contract is and how many fights he has left. I imagine when he signs his new deal it will be substantially more and then he will start training full time.

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]]> By: PlagueAngel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/random-rants-thoughts-on-ufc-96/comment-page-1/#comment-68030 PlagueAngel Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:16:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12744#comment-68030 Jstew3785 is a good man! The way Carwin composed himself and got up from a "black belt" was very impressive. Imagine if this guy trains full time. Way to fire back at someones misguided opinion. You need to check out that fight again Steve. Jstew3785 is a good man! The way Carwin composed himself and got up from a “black belt” was very impressive. Imagine if this guy trains full time. Way to fire back at someones misguided opinion. You need to check out that fight again Steve.

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]]> By: ultmma http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/random-rants-thoughts-on-ufc-96/comment-page-1/#comment-68019 ultmma Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:30:04 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12744#comment-68019 I'm just impressed you worked in 2 WWE refereances and a star trek reference all in the same random rant couldn't agree more about 2 things one the UFC triple A, guys are rushed to the big show way too fast their is no middle ground between the 1,000 person club show and the 12-17 K UFC events and MMA is a team sport, you don't fight your teamates who are on the grind with you while you continue to perfect your craft. these camps are like family to MMA fighters I’m just impressed you worked in 2 WWE refereances and a star trek reference all in the same random rant

couldn’t agree more about 2 things one the UFC triple A, guys are rushed to the big show way too fast their is no middle ground between the 1,000 person club show and the 12-17 K UFC events

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MMA is a team sport, you don’t fight your teamates who are on the grind with you while you continue to perfect your craft. these camps are like family to MMA fighters

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]]> By: Austin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/random-rants-thoughts-on-ufc-96/comment-page-1/#comment-68010 Austin Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:12:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12744#comment-68010 Sell would get raped on the ground by: Vinny Magalhaes, Demian Maia, Tim Creduer, Nate Marquardt. (all are at 185 i think) FYI: Rich Franklin and Matt Hughes are buddies. Sell would get raped on the ground by: Vinny Magalhaes, Demian Maia, Tim Creduer, Nate Marquardt. (all are at 185 i think)

FYI: Rich Franklin and Matt Hughes are buddies.

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/random-rants-thoughts-on-ufc-96/comment-page-1/#comment-67998 Jstew3785 Mon, 09 Mar 2009 00:55:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12744#comment-67998 Actually, Carwin IS working as an engineer. All you have to do is look him up on UFC.com or any other website and you'll see. Why would you be less than impressed with Carwin? He got rocked, taken down, and then recouperated and got the KO. At first he looked nervous, but this is his first main event. I admit I was nervous after he ate those 2 big shots from Gonzaga. I thought he was obviously rocked but I was super impressed with how he composed himself. He was taken down by a world class BJJ black belt and shrimped out and stood up with no problem. And the KO punch... Ridiculous! He knocked him out with a short counter right hand. All the questions about his chin were answered. Maybe people should start question Gonzaga's chin! Actually, Carwin IS working as an engineer. All you have to do is look him up on UFC.com or any other website and you’ll see. Why would you be less than impressed with Carwin? He got rocked, taken down, and then recouperated and got the KO. At first he looked nervous, but this is his first main event. I admit I was nervous after he ate those 2 big shots from Gonzaga. I thought he was obviously rocked but I was super impressed with how he composed himself. He was taken down by a world class BJJ black belt and shrimped out and stood up with no problem. And the KO punch… Ridiculous! He knocked him out with a short counter right hand. All the questions about his chin were answered. Maybe people should start question Gonzaga’s chin!

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]]> By: stevefiji http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/random-rants-thoughts-on-ufc-96/comment-page-1/#comment-67997 stevefiji Mon, 09 Mar 2009 00:38:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12744#comment-67997 Sam Excellent commentary. Lavigne lost all competence in that fight.... I was screaming louder than Dana (saw his video blog of the fight, and its amazing to see him go off on Lavigne at ringside) for him to STOP THE FIGHT!!!!!!!! If fighters can face reprecusioons, so should refs.... Lavigne, if you don't handle the next few TKO's solidly, back to he regional shows. As for the minor leagues... agree wholeheartedly that it might be time for the UFC to start to develop regional shows that feed TUF, that feed the WEC and UFC... BUT I am sure they are concerned most about quality control.... look at the brutal refereeing on UFC 96 as example A1...also look at the foolish comments by butt-wipes such as Kendal Grove as A2... loook at the KO and medical concerns such as Munoz as example A3.... Add in a dopzen more issues and you can see why it WONT happen for some time still. A giant WTF???? on the Mir-Lesnar ticket sales if what Mir says is true... Dana needs to be called out and things need to be better explained... and i am a huge Dana fan. As for the bro-fights....sorry Sam, you are way, way, WAY off-base on this one....I don't buy your explanation when you sign a UFC contract you are NOT telling the world I wanna be the best EXCEPT against 1 or two other guys... people pay $50 every omnth because they know the best fight the best...its the ULTIMATE FIGHTING CHAMPIONSHIP...just don't sign a UFC contract without being prepared to fight everyone. I for one, loved having Rashad comment on the fight... it actually supported your argument about team philosophy...but not that i buy it (see above). Still it can go either way, as i am sure Randy would be interesting in a similar situation. And finally, I was left less impressed with Carwin... "Dude has rocks in his gloves for sure, but he was getting his ass-kicked... I didn't see him lasting another 30 seconds with the beatdown he was taking... reminded me so much of the Koschek fight... Sam

Excellent commentary.

Lavigne lost all competence in that fight…. I was screaming louder than Dana (saw his video blog of the fight, and its amazing to see him go off on Lavigne at ringside) for him to STOP THE FIGHT!!!!!!!! If fighters can face reprecusioons, so should refs…. Lavigne, if you don’t handle the next few TKO’s solidly, back to he regional shows.

As for the minor leagues… agree wholeheartedly that it might be time for the UFC to start to develop regional shows that feed TUF, that feed the WEC and UFC… BUT I am sure they are concerned most about quality control…. look at the brutal refereeing on UFC 96 as example A1…also look at the foolish comments by butt-wipes such as Kendal Grove as A2… loook at the KO and medical concerns such as Munoz as example A3…. Add in a dopzen more issues and you can see why it WONT happen for some time still.

A giant WTF???? on the Mir-Lesnar ticket sales if what Mir says is true… Dana needs to be called out and things need to be better explained… and i am a huge Dana fan.

As for the bro-fights….sorry Sam, you are way, way, WAY off-base on this one….I don’t buy your explanation when you sign a UFC contract you are NOT telling the world I wanna be the best EXCEPT against 1 or two other guys… people pay $50 every omnth because they know the best fight the best…its the ULTIMATE FIGHTING CHAMPIONSHIP…just don’t sign a UFC contract without being prepared to fight everyone.

I for one, loved having Rashad comment on the fight… it actually supported your argument about team philosophy…but not that i buy it (see above). Still it can go either way, as i am sure Randy would be interesting in a similar situation.

And finally, I was left less impressed with Carwin… “Dude has rocks in his gloves for sure, but he was getting his ass-kicked… I didn’t see him lasting another 30 seconds with the beatdown he was taking… reminded me so much of the Koschek fight…

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]]> By: cocoonofhorror http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/random-rants-thoughts-on-ufc-96/comment-page-1/#comment-67973 cocoonofhorror Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:43:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12744#comment-67973 Carwin is not working as an engineer. Carwin is not working as an engineer.

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]]> By: PlagueAngel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/random-rants-thoughts-on-ufc-96/comment-page-1/#comment-67972 PlagueAngel Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:31:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12744#comment-67972 One thing about Carwin I'm learning is that 11/11 stoppages in the first round means he hits harder then 90% of his peers and he his dominating everyone. THE MAN IS NOT EVEN TRAINING FULL TIME! I mean seriously, he is an engineer working a full time job. Hopefully he puts his two week notice and starts to train with Greg Jackson or something. One thing about Carwin I’m learning is that 11/11 stoppages in the first round means he hits harder then 90% of his peers and he his dominating everyone. THE MAN IS NOT EVEN TRAINING FULL TIME! I mean seriously, he is an engineer working a full time job. Hopefully he puts his two week notice and starts to train with Greg Jackson or something.

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]]> By: mo dogg http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/random-rants-thoughts-on-ufc-96/comment-page-1/#comment-67960 mo dogg Sun, 08 Mar 2009 16:26:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12744#comment-67960 Curious to hear what you think the UFC should do about your last part on friends not having to fight friends. I for one agree with Dana here, and i think the point is reinforced in your point about how crazy it would be when guy's from other schools would abide by this un-written code. I think Dana has to speak as a general principal, and he can't openly acknowledge not scheduling some fights for some reasons. Supposed Jackson's submission continues to grow and expand, and you have 3 of the 5 contenders in a class from the same gym. Suppose guys generalize this rule and apply to guys of their own nationality or similar situations? would really put the UFC in a bind, and limiting fights is not a good thing. i understand the fighter's perspective too, but i would love to hear a proposed solution here Sam. I mean is it only feasible for a gym to truly support 1 or 2 guys in a certain weight class? i just see a dangerous precedent here and would love to hear what steps everybody involved could take to avoid this going forward. Curious to hear what you think the UFC should do about your last part on friends not having to fight friends. I for one agree with Dana here, and i think the point is reinforced in your point about how crazy it would be when guy’s from other schools would abide by this un-written code. I think Dana has to speak as a general principal, and he can’t openly acknowledge not scheduling some fights for some reasons. Supposed Jackson’s submission continues to grow and expand, and you have 3 of the 5 contenders in a class from the same gym. Suppose guys generalize this rule and apply to guys of their own nationality or similar situations? would really put the UFC in a bind, and limiting fights is not a good thing. i understand the fighter’s perspective too, but i would love to hear a proposed solution here Sam. I mean is it only feasible for a gym to truly support 1 or 2 guys in a certain weight class? i just see a dangerous precedent here and would love to hear what steps everybody involved could take to avoid this going forward.

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]]> By: Stan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/random-rants-thoughts-on-ufc-96/comment-page-1/#comment-67955 Stan Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:15:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12744#comment-67955 Frank Mir is not new to the whole "anonymous source" misinformation campaign. I wouldn't be shocked if all that confusion is based around him trying to play the back injury game again. I see Dana White's point about Jardine and Jackson though. While you have to respect Jardine's dedication to his friend, what can you do with a guy that doesn't want to be champion? Someone to knock off your rising prospects? Afterall, that second tier behind the elite is where the UFC is needing to cut payroll. Frank Mir is not new to the whole “anonymous source” misinformation campaign. I wouldn’t be shocked if all that confusion is based around him trying to play the back injury game again.

I see Dana White’s point about Jardine and Jackson though. While you have to respect Jardine’s dedication to his friend, what can you do with a guy that doesn’t want to be champion? Someone to knock off your rising prospects? Afterall, that second tier behind the elite is where the UFC is needing to cut payroll.

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