Comments on: Snowden’s Five Things about UFC 96: Lack of Professionalism Reigns http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 20:16:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Dr.Stoppage http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-68064 Dr.Stoppage Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:53:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-68064 It's weird, but your article on the UFC's lack of professionalism seems to lack professionalism. It’s weird, but your article on the UFC’s lack of professionalism seems to lack professionalism.

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]]> By: kidneybeans http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-68058 kidneybeans Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:13:42 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-68058 Jstew..............Whether casual fans have heard of them or not has no bearing on their ability to fight. If your not comparing them to Carwin's first ten opponents what's the point of bringing them up? Most of Silva's first ten fights were against very skilled opponenets, whether the casual fan has heard of them or not is irrelevant. The point being made about Carwin is that his first ten opponents weren't very good, not that we haven't heard of them. I also just wanted to point out that I don't really agree with the knock on Carwin, but I certainly understand it. And anyone that hasn't heard of Mach Sakurai needs to pull their head out of their ass. He's not only one of the most popular fighters in the world, but also one of the most entertaining. Jstew…………..Whether casual fans have heard of them or not has no bearing on their ability to fight. If your not comparing them to Carwin’s first ten opponents what’s the point of bringing them up?

Most of Silva’s first ten fights were against very skilled opponenets, whether the casual fan has heard of them or not is irrelevant. The point being made about Carwin is that his first ten opponents weren’t very good, not that we haven’t heard of them.

I also just wanted to point out that I don’t really agree with the knock on Carwin, but I certainly understand it.

And anyone that hasn’t heard of Mach Sakurai needs to pull their head out of their ass. He’s not only one of the most popular fighters in the world, but also one of the most entertaining.

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-68054 Jstew3785 Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:58:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-68054 I'm not comparing them by any stretch, I was just saying that most people haven't really heard of any of the guys he faced early on. I'm not talking about the real hardcore MMA fans, I'm talking about the casual fan. I'm not an expert on MMA, but I do watch more than just the UFC. Yeah Sergio, I missed one. I thought I had 10 on there. Maybe Carwin will be a huge flop and be cut from the UFC next year. I don't think he will accomplish what Silva has accomplished if he fights to be 100. I just think he should be cut some slack. I’m not comparing them by any stretch, I was just saying that most people haven’t really heard of any of the guys he faced early on. I’m not talking about the real hardcore MMA fans, I’m talking about the casual fan. I’m not an expert on MMA, but I do watch more than just the UFC. Yeah Sergio, I missed one. I thought I had 10 on there. Maybe Carwin will be a huge flop and be cut from the UFC next year. I don’t think he will accomplish what Silva has accomplished if he fights to be 100. I just think he should be cut some slack.

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]]> By: nigelzackit http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-68053 nigelzackit Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:37:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-68053 comparing carwin to anderson silva? what you thinking, dogg? carwin has one ok win down and about 15 to go before he catches up to silva. by the time he might get within close to what silva's done right now, he'll be 47. comparing carwin to anderson silva? what you thinking, dogg? carwin has one ok win down and about 15 to go before he catches up to silva. by the time he might get within close to what silva’s done right now, he’ll be 47.

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]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-68052 Sergio Hernandez Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:30:43 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-68052 "Alexander Otsuka, Alex Stiebling, Roan Carneiro, Hayato Sakurai, Israel Albuquerque, Tetsuji Kato, Claudionor Fontinelle, Jose Barreto, Luiz Azeredo. Anyone every really heard of any of these guys??" It's not our fault you only watch UFC and haven't heard of Mach, Azeredo, Kato and Carneiro (although he's fought for the UFC for the past 2 years or so). And 10 guys? By my count, you mentiond 9 with the 10th being Carlos Newton, former UFC "welterweight" champion. So the reason people don't rag on Silva is because he was fighting legit guys, even early in his career. “Alexander Otsuka, Alex Stiebling, Roan Carneiro, Hayato Sakurai, Israel Albuquerque, Tetsuji Kato, Claudionor Fontinelle, Jose Barreto, Luiz Azeredo. Anyone every really heard of any of these guys??”

It’s not our fault you only watch UFC and haven’t heard of Mach, Azeredo, Kato and Carneiro (although he’s fought for the UFC for the past 2 years or so).

And 10 guys? By my count, you mentiond 9 with the 10th being Carlos Newton, former UFC “welterweight” champion.

So the reason people don’t rag on Silva is because he was fighting legit guys, even early in his career.

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]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-68051 Jstew3785 Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:24:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-68051 I am so sick of everyone ragging on Carwin because his first ten opponents weren't world class fighters. Alexander Otsuka, Alex Stiebling, Roan Carneiro, Hayato Sakurai, Israel Albuquerque, Tetsuji Kato, Claudionor Fontinelle, Jose Barreto, Luiz Azeredo. Anyone every really heard of any of these guys?? These are the first 10 opponents that Anderson Silva, probably the # 1 pound-for -pound fighter in the world faced. You don't see people ragging on him. Carwin is still new to the game and has finally made it to the big leagues. Give him a break!!!!!!! I am so sick of everyone ragging on Carwin because his first ten opponents weren’t world class fighters.
Alexander Otsuka, Alex Stiebling, Roan Carneiro, Hayato Sakurai, Israel Albuquerque, Tetsuji Kato, Claudionor Fontinelle, Jose Barreto, Luiz Azeredo. Anyone every really heard of any of these guys?? These are the first 10 opponents that Anderson Silva, probably the # 1 pound-for -pound fighter in the world faced. You don’t see people ragging on him. Carwin is still new to the game and has finally made it to the big leagues. Give him a break!!!!!!!

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]]> By: nigelzackit http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-68042 nigelzackit Tue, 10 Mar 2009 12:35:19 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-68042 <i>I’m probably older than you. I didn’t pick up this game with the most recent airing of TUF nor do I equate MMA as UFC. I’ve been an avid follower of this sport for more than 10 years and followed all the organizations as availability would allow. </i> yeah that's great, son. welcome to the club and all that. then you probably realize as a long time fan that dudes like neil wain aren't exactly superstars. carwin beat one good fighter in his whole career and spent most of that fight getting smashed or taken down by a dude with a fraction of his supposed wrestling skill. then kids (not necessarily you) come out here and talk about "well timed clinches" like they know what they're talking about. lemme break some knowledge off for you and them; when you get hurt standing you're supposed to close the distance and grab/hold. what questions did we get answered? that he is easy to hit in the face, that he can get caught cold, and that his wrestling isn't as good as advertised. i guess he hits hard though, so that what, makes him about as good as dos santos? maybe if gonzaga had come into the fight in shape instead of what, 15-20lbs over his best weights, he could have done more or worked faster. but i wouldn't want to not let that get in the way of giving dap to carwin for beating a guy who was barely in the top ten if at all. I’m probably older than you. I didn’t pick up this game with the most recent airing of TUF nor do I equate MMA as UFC. I’ve been an avid follower of this sport for more than 10 years and followed all the organizations as availability would allow.

yeah that’s great, son. welcome to the club and all that. then you probably realize as a long time fan that dudes like neil wain aren’t exactly superstars. carwin beat one good fighter in his whole career and spent most of that fight getting smashed or taken down by a dude with a fraction of his supposed wrestling skill. then kids (not necessarily you) come out here and talk about “well timed clinches” like they know what they’re talking about. lemme break some knowledge off for you and them; when you get hurt standing you’re supposed to close the distance and grab/hold. what questions did we get answered? that he is easy to hit in the face, that he can get caught cold, and that his wrestling isn’t as good as advertised. i guess he hits hard though, so that what, makes him about as good as dos santos?

maybe if gonzaga had come into the fight in shape instead of what, 15-20lbs over his best weights, he could have done more or worked faster. but i wouldn’t want to not let that get in the way of giving dap to carwin for beating a guy who was barely in the top ten if at all.

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]]> By: RU486 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-68038 RU486 Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:07:40 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-68038 ****dana is gonna take kids like you to the cleaners in the next couple years building up dude’s records.**** I'm probably older than you. I didn't pick up this game with the most recent airing of TUF nor do I equate MMA as UFC. I've been an avid follower of this sport for more than 10 years and followed all the organizations as availability would allow. As for Reinhardt and Hornbuckle - I commend you on your answer to my challenge. I'll give you Reinhardt, but not Hornbuckle. But the difference between either of these guys and Carwin is neither of them knocked out a Mundial champion that has lethal strikes from all four appendages. ****dana is gonna take kids like you to the cleaners in the next couple years building up dude’s records.****

I’m probably older than you. I didn’t pick up this game with the most recent airing of TUF nor do I equate MMA as UFC. I’ve been an avid follower of this sport for more than 10 years and followed all the organizations as availability would allow.

As for Reinhardt and Hornbuckle – I commend you on your answer to my challenge. I’ll give you Reinhardt, but not Hornbuckle. But the difference between either of these guys and Carwin is neither of them knocked out a Mundial champion that has lethal strikes from all four appendages.

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]]> By: Goomba http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-68031 Goomba Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:18:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-68031 1. Can't argue there. He messed up big time, but at least he admitted it. 2. Calm down, don't be so uptight. I bet the government planned 9/11 and the crashing of the titantic, too. 3. So what if he got rocked? He had the sense to recompose himself and acted like a professional when he got hit and survived. As for being taken down, he was rocked, as you said. The important thing is that he managed to get right back up again against a foe nearly weighing 260 pounds, a foe that is great on the ground. 4. No he didn't, but he got a few near-knockdowns. Don't expect much more against Rashad, he's been in a constant fight camp, going in almost right after 92, and almost right away for Rashad. 5. See No. 2. Don't be so tight, relax a little and have some fun with it. Maybe they should just kick Rampage out for being a showman. Make him not allowed to howl anymore, because its too WWE-like. Take away his chains too. People loved this stuff in PRIDE, but the UFC can't do it? 1. Can’t argue there. He messed up big time, but at least he admitted it.

2. Calm down, don’t be so uptight. I bet the government planned 9/11 and the crashing of the titantic, too.

3. So what if he got rocked? He had the sense to recompose himself and acted like a professional when he got hit and survived. As for being taken down, he was rocked, as you said. The important thing is that he managed to get right back up again against a foe nearly weighing 260 pounds, a foe that is great on the ground.

4. No he didn’t, but he got a few near-knockdowns. Don’t expect much more against Rashad, he’s been in a constant fight camp, going in almost right after 92, and almost right away for Rashad.

5. See No. 2. Don’t be so tight, relax a little and have some fun with it. Maybe they should just kick Rampage out for being a showman. Make him not allowed to howl anymore, because its too WWE-like. Take away his chains too. People loved this stuff in PRIDE, but the UFC can’t do it?

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]]> By: idbi http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-68018 idbi Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:59:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-68018 Does it really matter that Carwin was losing the fight for one whole minute before knocking his opponent out? The same thing was said back when Fedor KO'd Arlovski. Both Carwin and Fedor won their fights in pretty dramatic fashion. Fights are back and forth affairs. To say that a fighter was somehow showing weakness because they took a couple of hits seems silly. If every fight looked like Shamrock v. Clifton, they wouldn't be worth watching. Does it really matter that Carwin was losing the fight for one whole minute before knocking his opponent out? The same thing was said back when Fedor KO’d Arlovski. Both Carwin and Fedor won their fights in pretty dramatic fashion. Fights are back and forth affairs. To say that a fighter was somehow showing weakness because they took a couple of hits seems silly. If every fight looked like Shamrock v. Clifton, they wouldn’t be worth watching.

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]]> By: Angry Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-68016 Angry Mike Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:38:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-68016 The outcomes of the fights didn't really surprise me. I fully expected Carwin to win despite the perception that Gonzaga has more experience. Looking at Gonzaga's record, he's lost in the bigger match ups. Couture manhandled him, so a bigger stronger grappler like Carwin looked like trouble from the outset. It was no surprise that Rampage beat Jardine, who's always struggled with heavy hitters who push the pace. The surprise was Rampage's inability to finish a guy who has been ko'd and can be ko'd. Rampage has some serious holes in his game, and they've been exposed. Rampage didn't check the inevitable leg kicks and was unable to capitalize on take downs. Jardine caught him repeatedly with solid punches. Evans is quicker than Jardine, has one punch ko power, and is a better grappler. Evans hasn't shown much in the way of leg kicks, but you have to believe that Greg Jackson will put them in his arsenal. And his game plan will include take downs and gnp, which are another weakness for Rampage. If Rampage fights Evans the way he fought Jardine, it's Evans' fight to lose. Jim Miller is one tough Jersey boy, but Maynard is just too big. And Maynard's stand up was better than I expected. He's improving, and he's only one or two fights from a title shot. I'd love to see him square off with Kenny Florian. If Maynard beat Florian, he'd have to be first in line to fight Penn. Somebody needs to slap Kendall Grove. The "grave digging" schtick is sad for four reasons: 1) He stole it; 2) He stole it from Tito; 3) He used it on Jason Day for pity's sake, not a guy at the top of the weight class; and 4) Grove's an underachiever with no reason to showboat. Grove ought to show a little humility because he's lucky he's still in the UFC. My theory is that dropping him would reflect badly on TUF, which he won, so he's getting more chances than most guys would. He's somewhere in the bottom third of the weight class on his best day, and there are plenty of guys outside the org. to fill his slot. The outcomes of the fights didn’t really surprise me. I fully expected Carwin to win despite the perception that Gonzaga has more experience. Looking at Gonzaga’s record, he’s lost in the bigger match ups. Couture manhandled him, so a bigger stronger grappler like Carwin looked like trouble from the outset.

It was no surprise that Rampage beat Jardine, who’s always struggled with heavy hitters who push the pace. The surprise was Rampage’s inability to finish a guy who has been ko’d and can be ko’d. Rampage has some serious holes in his game, and they’ve been exposed. Rampage didn’t check the inevitable leg kicks and was unable to capitalize on take downs. Jardine caught him repeatedly with solid punches. Evans is quicker than Jardine, has one punch ko power, and is a better grappler. Evans hasn’t shown much in the way of leg kicks, but you have to believe that Greg Jackson will put them in his arsenal. And his game plan will include take downs and gnp, which are another weakness for Rampage. If Rampage fights Evans the way he fought Jardine, it’s Evans’ fight to lose.

Jim Miller is one tough Jersey boy, but Maynard is just too big. And Maynard’s stand up was better than I expected. He’s improving, and he’s only one or two fights from a title shot. I’d love to see him square off with Kenny Florian. If Maynard beat Florian, he’d have to be first in line to fight Penn.

Somebody needs to slap Kendall Grove. The “grave digging” schtick is sad for four reasons: 1) He stole it; 2) He stole it from Tito; 3) He used it on Jason Day for pity’s sake, not a guy at the top of the weight class; and 4) Grove’s an underachiever with no reason to showboat. Grove ought to show a little humility because he’s lucky he’s still in the UFC. My theory is that dropping him would reflect badly on TUF, which he won, so he’s getting more chances than most guys would. He’s somewhere in the bottom third of the weight class on his best day, and there are plenty of guys outside the org. to fill his slot.

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]]> By: Austin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-68009 Austin Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:09:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-68009 So anytime i see a Snowden article, i will now skip it, because Snowden = ignorant. Carwin used a very well timed clinch to recover. Randy Couture clinches at crucial moments. Its no small feat to get up after gonzaga gets you down. Then you saw an Anderson Siva or Scott Smith reeling punch. That is to say, he didn't step into the punch a la Rashad Evans or Rampage Jackson. He He-man'ed it.. He aimed for the head, connected. ktfo'ed gonzaga. Had he stepped into it with his full body weight, Gonzaga would still be shitting himself. So anytime i see a Snowden article, i will now skip it, because Snowden = ignorant. Carwin used a very well timed clinch to recover. Randy Couture clinches at crucial moments. Its no small feat to get up after gonzaga gets you down. Then you saw an Anderson Siva or Scott Smith reeling punch. That is to say, he didn’t step into the punch a la Rashad Evans or Rampage Jackson. He He-man’ed it.. He aimed for the head, connected. ktfo’ed gonzaga. Had he stepped into it with his full body weight, Gonzaga would still be shitting himself.

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]]> By: nigelzackit http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-68007 nigelzackit Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:25:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-68007 <i>What questions are there for Carwin to answer? Clearly he has answered them all in 13 mins. 2 sec. that he has performed over the course of 11 fights.</i> son, you funny man. yo, you ever heard of these guys? http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jason-Reinhardt-2347 http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dan-Hornbuckle-16658 it looks like they had answered all their questions for awhille, just like carwin and the bum parade that's been the dude's career. now he gets busted up and his wrestling credentials embarassed by some overweight ex-title challenger, and he's the real deal? just cause homeboy was able to scramble to his feet and wing some desperation bombs? dana is gonna take kids like you to the cleaners in the next couple years building up dude's records. What questions are there for Carwin to answer? Clearly he has answered them all in 13 mins. 2 sec. that he has performed over the course of 11 fights.

son, you funny man. yo, you ever heard of these guys?

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jason-Reinhardt-2347
http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Dan-Hornbuckle-16658

it looks like they had answered all their questions for awhille, just like carwin and the bum parade that’s been the dude’s career. now he gets busted up and his wrestling credentials embarassed by some overweight ex-title challenger, and he’s the real deal? just cause homeboy was able to scramble to his feet and wing some desperation bombs?

dana is gonna take kids like you to the cleaners in the next couple years building up dude’s records.

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]]> By: GetItOn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-68002 GetItOn Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:01:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-68002 Yes it is complete BS that the UFC is still stating that MIR vs Lesnar is still going to happen when in all actuality the internet owns the UFC at this point. Us veterans are pretty sure that fight won't happen that soon. Shane Carwin did not fail to impress! What questions do you still have? He got punched in the face and took it, then taken to the ground and was able to stand back up. We had a fresh Gabriel Gonzaga who has not taken any damage before he was TKO'd. He couldn't even hold Carwin on the ground! He has knocked out his 11 opponents in the first round of every pro fight he has! The only question I have in my mind is, when will this guy get a title shot? I say one more worthy opponent gets put in his way and then it's off to the titles. Although the Jackson vs Jardine wasn't the fireworks I expected it certainly was entertaining. Just because no one got knocked out doesn't mean that they didn't come to fight. Honestly dude, you almost sound like someone that is new to the game but I know you're not so I'll let it slide this time Jonathan. Much love brotha I replayed the Rampage Evans staredown word battle like four times. That shit was tight! I usually don't really care for this type of situation because often times it seems fake and quite possibly rehearsed prior to the fight. *cough* Nick Diaz *cough* Rashad say's "We'll see who throws that first muh fuckin' punch" or something along those lines. Quintin repeats like six times "I'm gettin' mah belt." Classic! Yes it is complete BS that the UFC is still stating that MIR vs Lesnar is still going to happen when in all actuality the internet owns the UFC at this point. Us veterans are pretty sure that fight won’t happen that soon.

Shane Carwin did not fail to impress! What questions do you still have? He got punched in the face and took it, then taken to the ground and was able to stand back up. We had a fresh Gabriel Gonzaga who has not taken any damage before he was TKO’d. He couldn’t even hold Carwin on the ground! He has knocked out his 11 opponents in the first round of every pro fight he has! The only question I have in my mind is, when will this guy get a title shot? I say one more worthy opponent gets put in his way and then it’s off to the titles.

Although the Jackson vs Jardine wasn’t the fireworks I expected it certainly was entertaining. Just because no one got knocked out doesn’t mean that they didn’t come to fight. Honestly dude, you almost sound like someone that is new to the game but I know you’re not so I’ll let it slide this time Jonathan. Much love brotha

I replayed the Rampage Evans staredown word battle like four times. That shit was tight! I usually don’t really care for this type of situation because often times it seems fake and quite possibly rehearsed prior to the fight. *cough* Nick Diaz *cough* Rashad say’s “We’ll see who throws that first muh fuckin’ punch” or something along those lines. Quintin repeats like six times “I’m gettin’ mah belt.” Classic!

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]]> By: guil http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-67996 guil Mon, 09 Mar 2009 00:16:14 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-67996 “Carwin looked bad, getting knocked down and even taken down.” I didn't see any knockdown... “Carwin looked bad, getting knocked down and even taken down.”

I didn’t see any knockdown…

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]]> By: kidneybeans http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-67994 kidneybeans Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:51:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-67994 Good writeup, and though I don't agree with you on everything I can understand that these are your opinions and nothing more. It's nice to see someone point out a few of the things that can be improved upon. The UFC is great, but that doesn't mean it's pefect. Good writeup, and though I don’t agree with you on everything I can understand that these are your opinions and nothing more. It’s nice to see someone point out a few of the things that can be improved upon. The UFC is great, but that doesn’t mean it’s pefect.

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]]> By: RU486 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-67992 RU486 Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:09:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-67992 Tamden definitely called Dana out during that post fight interview did he not? The fact that fighters are censored from picking their entrance music is rather crappy, and I'm happy he pointed that out. Tamden definitely called Dana out during that post fight interview did he not? The fact that fighters are censored from picking their entrance music is rather crappy, and I’m happy he pointed that out.

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-67989 JOe K. Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:52:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-67989 P.S. "The Barncat" is awesome and his interview was Rogan was hilarious. I don't care how un-professional that seemed because it was the real deal. P.S. “The Barncat” is awesome and his interview was Rogan was hilarious. I don’t care how un-professional that seemed because it was the real deal.

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]]> By: JOe K. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-67988 JOe K. Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:48:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-67988 The Yves Leveigns thing was out of line. Its tough for the refs though-- with the recent early stoppage of Josh Koschek the refs were being called into question of stopping fights to early (which sucks to watch). but then not a week later we see Marcus Galvao go into seizures from a late stoppage and the color commentator have to be restrained from entering the cage (screaming almost in tears) "You did this!!! You did this!" --You can't have it both ways. I'm still not on the Carwin train and I was very pissed that Gonzaga lost. He'll comeback. The Rampage Rashad stare down was the worst idea ever. Those never work well, especially when they are talking trash. It made Rashad look weak. He is very softspoken and Rampage thrives under the limelight. It was just a bad idea all around. (although I did chuckle when Rampage said "Theres gonna be some more black on black crime"). Its totally classless and almost everyone sees through it. I'm glad Strikeforce is up and coming and I and really grateful for these Japanese tournaments. Each passing day the UFC becomes more and more plastique and commoditized. The fact that they run there organization like the SS where they censor footage, fighters, and other organizations speaks volumes. We almost never hear fighters request fights anymore. We always get the line "I'll fight whom ever they would like me too, its not my decision" The fights were pretty good (sans the main event). The lack of ground fighting is a bit disturbing but the UFC was just being the UFC and I'm glad I got to see some good fights (for free because I downloaded it because no way was i going to pay $50 for this card, call it getting my money back for UFC 90 and 93). The Yves Leveigns thing was out of line.

Its tough for the refs though–

with the recent early stoppage of Josh Koschek the refs were being called into question of stopping fights to early (which sucks to watch).

but then not a week later we see Marcus Galvao go into seizures from a late stoppage and the color commentator have to be restrained from entering the cage (screaming almost in tears) “You did this!!! You did this!”

–You can’t have it both ways.

I’m still not on the Carwin train and I was very pissed that Gonzaga lost. He’ll comeback.

The Rampage Rashad stare down was the worst idea ever. Those never work well, especially when they are talking trash.

It made Rashad look weak. He is very softspoken and Rampage thrives under the limelight. It was just a bad idea all around. (although I did chuckle when Rampage said “Theres gonna be some more black on black crime”).

Its totally classless and almost everyone sees through it. I’m glad Strikeforce is up and coming and I and really grateful for these Japanese tournaments.

Each passing day the UFC becomes more and more plastique and commoditized. The fact that they run there organization like the SS where they censor footage, fighters, and other organizations speaks volumes. We almost never hear fighters request fights anymore. We always get the line “I’ll fight whom ever they would like me too, its not my decision”

The fights were pretty good (sans the main event). The lack of ground fighting is a bit disturbing but the UFC was just being the UFC and I’m glad I got to see some good fights (for free because I downloaded it because no way was i going to pay $50 for this card, call it getting my money back for UFC 90 and 93).

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]]> By: RU486 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/08/snowdens-five-things-about-ufc-96-lack-of-professionalism-reigns/comment-page-1/#comment-67987 RU486 Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:42:23 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=12757#comment-67987 2. The Lesnar Mir rematch has been scheduled for months now. If Mir sustaining an injury 2 weeks ago propagates false ticket sales, perhaps you should have been reading these forums a little before you make such asinine remarks. 3. What questions are there for Carwin to answer? Clearly he has answered them all in 13 mins. 2 sec. that he has performed over the course of 11 fights. He stops fights definitively. What else is there? Name another professional MMA fighter that has finished all 11 opponents in as little time. 4. I picked Jardine to win this fight. Quinton has had trouble with guys that kick: Silva (2 times), Shogun, and Griffin. It is no secret that Rampage's Achilles heel is keeping him distant and at bay. Take away the two cinder block weapons on the ends of both of his arms, and you win. Jardine followed his game plan going into this fight perfectly, but succumbed to a few of those mortar shells. You can't question Rampage's tenacity by winning a unanimous decision over a guy who has beaten 2 former LHW champions in as many years. 5. Rashad Evans' actions in the octagon after the fight are inexcusable as well. Matt Hughe's anger towards his "showboating" is well justified. Remember when he kissed his hand and grabbed his jock in the Griffin fight? And then coming into the ring and trash talking the way he did was disrespectful to Jackson (who had just fought a hard 15 minute fight) and to the sport. Guys like Rashad are why the sport still have so many political adversaries. Quinton had the utmost class during the exchange, and I'm surprised he didn't knock Rashad out for that crap like Heath Herring did when Nakao kissed him before the fight. I watched these fights in a bar and haven't been so anxious during a fight since Liddell / Silva at UFC 79. It was everything I could do to contain myself during the main event. The undercard was not comprised of superstars, but all of those guys were good solid fighters. Jim Miller was on an 8 fight win streak, Gray Maynard undefeated, Brandon Vera was the most prospectful heavyweght ever seen a couple of years back, Tim Boetsch has been a wrecking ball for some time now. Anyone that knows the first thing about MMA or the UFC, would think this an amazing card. No it wasn't comprised of fighters with household names, but the all the fighters are the cream of the crop in the next generation of MMArtists. Go read some books and watch a few hundred more events before you make any more posts that are as ambitious and ignorant as this one 2. The Lesnar Mir rematch has been scheduled for months now. If Mir sustaining an injury 2 weeks ago propagates false ticket sales, perhaps you should have been reading these forums a little before you make such asinine remarks.

3. What questions are there for Carwin to answer? Clearly he has answered them all in 13 mins. 2 sec. that he has performed over the course of 11 fights. He stops fights definitively. What else is there? Name another professional MMA fighter that has finished all 11 opponents in as little time.

4. I picked Jardine to win this fight. Quinton has had trouble with guys that kick: Silva (2 times), Shogun, and Griffin. It is no secret that Rampage’s Achilles heel is keeping him distant and at bay. Take away the two cinder block weapons on the ends of both of his arms, and you win. Jardine followed his game plan going into this fight perfectly, but succumbed to a few of those mortar shells. You can’t question Rampage’s tenacity by winning a unanimous decision over a guy who has beaten 2 former LHW champions in as many years.

5. Rashad Evans’ actions in the octagon after the fight are inexcusable as well. Matt Hughe’s anger towards his “showboating” is well justified. Remember when he kissed his hand and grabbed his jock in the Griffin fight? And then coming into the ring and trash talking the way he did was disrespectful to Jackson (who had just fought a hard 15 minute fight) and to the sport. Guys like Rashad are why the sport still have so many political adversaries. Quinton had the utmost class during the exchange, and I’m surprised he didn’t knock Rashad out for that crap like Heath Herring did when Nakao kissed him before the fight.

I watched these fights in a bar and haven’t been so anxious during a fight since Liddell / Silva at UFC 79. It was everything I could do to contain myself during the main event. The undercard was not comprised of superstars, but all of those guys were good solid fighters. Jim Miller was on an 8 fight win streak, Gray Maynard undefeated, Brandon Vera was the most prospectful heavyweght ever seen a couple of years back, Tim Boetsch has been a wrecking ball for some time now. Anyone that knows the first thing about MMA or the UFC, would think this an amazing card. No it wasn’t comprised of fighters with household names, but the all the fighters are the cream of the crop in the next generation of MMArtists.

Go read some books and watch a few hundred more events before you make any more posts that are as ambitious and ignorant as this one

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