Comments on: 5 Oz. of Pain Presents: The DUEL http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/26/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-37/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 20:16:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: broncos12405 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/26/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-37/comment-page-1/#comment-68999 broncos12405 Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:33:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13251#comment-68999 You are all a bunch of haters. Shamrock has done more in his life and for MMA then you fools could ever contemplate. Stop talking Shit you pathetic keyboard warriors!!! You are all a bunch of haters. Shamrock has done more in his life and for MMA then you fools could ever contemplate. Stop talking Shit you pathetic keyboard warriors!!!

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]]> By: RU486 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/26/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-37/comment-page-1/#comment-68998 RU486 Wed, 01 Apr 2009 03:53:34 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13251#comment-68998 MMA-Logic do you Know of anyone in any sport who has a title having only fought 4 times? Yup - the aforementioned Randy Couture did it in 1997 against Maurice Smith. The only difference was that he didn't have a loss beforehand. He was 3-0 going into the fight. I liked your post and agreed with you on all of them. Especially #2. There are only a handful of fighters with knees like W. Silvas. One of them is the other Silva who absolutely murdered Franklin on two occasions. I'm willing to bet W. Silva has watched those fights a hundred times each and has memorized the formula to beating Rich Franklin as outlined by A. Silva. I agree whole heartedly that Lesnar has been fast tracked to the top. When I saw the first notion that the fight between Couture and Lesnar might take place, my initial reaction was that Dana was sadistically repaying Randy for the negative press and legal battle he caused. Statistically, Randy could not win that fight, and Dana knew it, as we all did (although we hoped otherwise). MMA-Logic

do you Know of anyone in any sport who has a title having only fought 4 times?

Yup – the aforementioned Randy Couture did it in 1997 against Maurice Smith. The only difference was that he didn’t have a loss beforehand. He was 3-0 going into the fight.

I liked your post and agreed with you on all of them. Especially #2. There are only a handful of fighters with knees like W. Silvas. One of them is the other Silva who absolutely murdered Franklin on two occasions. I’m willing to bet W. Silva has watched those fights a hundred times each and has memorized the formula to beating Rich Franklin as outlined by A. Silva.

I agree whole heartedly that Lesnar has been fast tracked to the top. When I saw the first notion that the fight between Couture and Lesnar might take place, my initial reaction was that Dana was sadistically repaying Randy for the negative press and legal battle he caused. Statistically, Randy could not win that fight, and Dana knew it, as we all did (although we hoped otherwise).

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]]> By: MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/26/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-37/comment-page-1/#comment-68995 MMA-LOGIC Wed, 01 Apr 2009 03:01:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13251#comment-68995 Ktru I agree with everything you said. But I'll say it again Lesnar has not been tested against any of them and yeah Lesnar won...only for the third time in his career! do you Know of anyone in any sport who has a title having only fought 4 times?, and he earned it against a guy who( not having earned it) fought for the title in his first HW match in about 6 years and coming off 2 losses at HW and 2 at LHW to Chuck. Talk about unfair. He performaces didn't even merrit a title shot at LHW let alone HW. But the UFC played WWF and "produced" a new "champ". Imagine in any other division somebody loses twice retires only to come back a year later to fight for a title a weight above without earning it. Unheard of and quite frankly it shouldn't happen. Ktru I agree with everything you said. But I’ll say it again Lesnar has not been tested against any of them and yeah Lesnar won…only for the third time in his career! do you Know of anyone in any sport who has a title having only fought 4 times?, and he earned it against a guy who( not having earned it) fought for the title in his first HW match in about 6 years and coming off 2 losses at HW and 2 at LHW to Chuck. Talk about unfair. He performaces didn’t even merrit a title shot at LHW let alone HW. But the UFC played WWF and “produced” a new “champ”. Imagine in any other division somebody loses twice retires only to come back a year later to fight for a title a weight above without earning it. Unheard of and quite frankly it shouldn’t happen.

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]]> By: KTru http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/26/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-37/comment-page-1/#comment-68932 KTru Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:42:57 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13251#comment-68932 Yeah Huck, take your beating like a man........ Only thing I have to say is in response to MMA-logic, which is an oxy-moron with your reasoning. Just accept that Lesnar is the champion and quit pointing out his fast track to the belt. He won, regardless of Couture's age and the other fighters you listed aside from Nog, will never be champions. Werdum, no longer with the UFC because he didnt take his opponent seriously (dos Santos). Kongo lost to your aforementioned Herring....... GG cannot take the pressure and will never win an important fight...... Yeah Huck, take your beating like a man……..

Only thing I have to say is in response to MMA-logic, which is an oxy-moron with your reasoning.
Just accept that Lesnar is the champion and quit pointing out his fast track to the belt.
He won, regardless of Couture’s age and the other fighters you listed aside from Nog, will never be champions.
Werdum, no longer with the UFC because he didnt take his opponent seriously (dos Santos).
Kongo lost to your aforementioned Herring…….
GG cannot take the pressure and will never win an important fight……

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]]> By: MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/26/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-37/comment-page-1/#comment-68851 MMA-LOGIC Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:13:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13251#comment-68851 1) SHAMrock is a joke and has been for a while and this is no surprise. 2) Wanderlei will win in brutal fashion in rd 1 or 2. 3) See Cathedron above. 4) See Cathedron above. 5) Don't know if Lashley will be any good and they same goes for Lesnar to be honest. Lesnar lost to Mir, he beat Herring (so what) and he beat Randy the 45-46 year old guy that hadn't fought for an age and who's been beaten by Belfort, Lidell x2, Barnett and the list goes on, more than a third of all of his fights actually. It was a shocking match up for Randy against a bigger better wrestler in Lesnar , I mean what else could Randy do to Lesnar but try and wear him down? It's not as if he was going to choke him or throw a head kick. Yeah Lesnar is the UFC Champ but he was fast tracked and hasn't been tested by the likes of Werdum, Nogueira, Gonzaga or even Kongo. 1) SHAMrock is a joke and has been for a while and this is no surprise.

2) Wanderlei will win in brutal fashion in rd 1 or 2.

3) See Cathedron above.

4) See Cathedron above.

5) Don’t know if Lashley will be any good and they same goes for Lesnar to be honest. Lesnar lost to Mir, he beat Herring (so what) and he beat Randy the 45-46 year old guy that hadn’t fought for an age and who’s been beaten by Belfort, Lidell x2, Barnett and the list goes on, more than a third of all of his fights actually. It was a shocking match up for Randy against a bigger better wrestler in Lesnar , I mean what else could Randy do to Lesnar but try and wear him down? It’s not as if he was going to choke him or throw a head kick. Yeah Lesnar is the UFC Champ but he was fast tracked and hasn’t been tested by the likes of Werdum, Nogueira, Gonzaga or even Kongo.

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]]> By: Cathedron http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/26/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-37/comment-page-1/#comment-68839 Cathedron Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:35:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13251#comment-68839 1. The failed steroid test was just the nail in the coffin... I hope. 2. Wandy is too one dimensional. Franklin will pick him apart. 3. Kimbo has nothing to offer the fight world outside of his backyard. He would actually be an even bigger laughing stock in boxing. Boxing is a much, much bigger playground where no-talent hacks are only useful for padding the win records of true talents. Kimbo should do pro-wrestling. That's basically what he's been doing all this time, anyway. 4. No chance. It's just a way to leach attention from UFC 100 before announcing the real date. 5. It's way too soon to see what Lashley evolves into. While showing mountains of potential, he's just not the freak that Lesnar is. Lashley's going to need time to develop like a normal fighter, but I'm afraid his fame is going to push him to move too fast. 1. The failed steroid test was just the nail in the coffin… I hope.

2. Wandy is too one dimensional. Franklin will pick him apart.

3. Kimbo has nothing to offer the fight world outside of his backyard. He would actually be an even bigger laughing stock in boxing. Boxing is a much, much bigger playground where no-talent hacks are only useful for padding the win records of true talents. Kimbo should do pro-wrestling. That’s basically what he’s been doing all this time, anyway.

4. No chance. It’s just a way to leach attention from UFC 100 before announcing the real date.

5. It’s way too soon to see what Lashley evolves into. While showing mountains of potential, he’s just not the freak that Lesnar is. Lashley’s going to need time to develop like a normal fighter, but I’m afraid his fame is going to push him to move too fast.

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]]> By: ace328 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/26/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-37/comment-page-1/#comment-68829 ace328 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:01:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13251#comment-68829 That wasn't too long ago for you was it? Oh, I make horrible insults when I'm drunk. That wasn’t too long ago for you was it? Oh, I make horrible insults when I’m drunk.

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]]> By: Michael Huckaby http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/03/26/5-oz-of-pain-presents-the-duel-37/comment-page-1/#comment-68792 Michael Huckaby Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:27:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13251#comment-68792 I haven't felt beaten this terribly since elementary school. I haven’t felt beaten this terribly since elementary school.

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