Comments on: Shamrock leads the pack with a $369,000 salary from this past Saturday’s Strikeforce event http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/15/shamrock-leads-the-pack-with-a-369000-salary-from-this-past-saturdays-strikeforce-event/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 20:16:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: redness http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/15/shamrock-leads-the-pack-with-a-369000-salary-from-this-past-saturdays-strikeforce-event/comment-page-1/#comment-69463 redness Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:35:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13734#comment-69463 The hospitial bill is more then the bottom guys even earn wow. The hospitial bill is more then the bottom guys even earn wow.

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]]> By: wardog http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/15/shamrock-leads-the-pack-with-a-369000-salary-from-this-past-saturdays-strikeforce-event/comment-page-1/#comment-69461 wardog Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:14:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13734#comment-69461 MMA-Logic I agree 100% It is a shame for a high level show to pay this amount. I cannot see how a fighters union will come about, it is too individual at this moment. But I still believe that there should be a way that a state athletic commission could establish a minimum salary range or something. I know a few guys who may have had a chance but stopped because they had families to support and could not risk or would not risk injury and loss of work for the money that may never come. MMA-Logic I agree 100% It is a shame for a high level show to pay this amount. I cannot see how a fighters union will come about, it is too individual at this moment. But I still believe that there should be a way that a state athletic commission could establish a minimum salary range or something. I know a few guys who may have had a chance but stopped because they had families to support and could not risk or would not risk injury and loss of work for the money that may never come.

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]]> By: MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/15/shamrock-leads-the-pack-with-a-369000-salary-from-this-past-saturdays-strikeforce-event/comment-page-1/#comment-69443 MMA-LOGIC Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:41:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13734#comment-69443 $940 to fight in the cage is criminal. Imagine all the training that has to go in, not to mention all other expenses. These fighters really ended up paying to fight and put their bodies at risk. Where is the fighters union. $940 to fight in the cage is criminal. Imagine all the training that has to go in, not to mention all other expenses. These fighters really ended up paying to fight and put their bodies at risk. Where is the fighters union.

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]]> By: GetItOn http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/15/shamrock-leads-the-pack-with-a-369000-salary-from-this-past-saturdays-strikeforce-event/comment-page-1/#comment-69441 GetItOn Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:21:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13734#comment-69441 Well with their contracts they sign for a certain amount of fights with a certain amount being paid each fight. For instance if fighters have a contract for four fights and a salary of $100,000 then that means that each fight they make $25,000 not including any bonuses. If Frank Shamrock fights again for Strikeforce then he will make the same base amount that he made in this fight against Diaz, plus any bonuses he earns for whatever. Same goes for Diaz, unless they renegotiate his contract before his next fight considering he will draw more spectators to the venue he fights in. Trust me Nick Diaz does well. He has a shit ton of sponsors and like someone above me said, if he fights four times a year, he makes six figures easy just for fighting. He's obviously not doing as well as Shamrock pay wise but certainly not suffering by any means. If you want to make money in this sport then you need to beat tough competition and also be marketable. Well with their contracts they sign for a certain amount of fights with a certain amount being paid each fight. For instance if fighters have a contract for four fights and a salary of $100,000 then that means that each fight they make $25,000 not including any bonuses. If Frank Shamrock fights again for Strikeforce then he will make the same base amount that he made in this fight against Diaz, plus any bonuses he earns for whatever.

Same goes for Diaz, unless they renegotiate his contract before his next fight considering he will draw more spectators to the venue he fights in.

Trust me Nick Diaz does well. He has a shit ton of sponsors and like someone above me said, if he fights four times a year, he makes six figures easy just for fighting. He’s obviously not doing as well as Shamrock pay wise but certainly not suffering by any means.

If you want to make money in this sport then you need to beat tough competition and also be marketable.

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]]> By: ihateemo http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/15/shamrock-leads-the-pack-with-a-369000-salary-from-this-past-saturdays-strikeforce-event/comment-page-1/#comment-69440 ihateemo Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:06:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13734#comment-69440 "I wonder if Diaz knew this before the fight. I’ll bet he didn’t." I'll bet he did, Shamrock has always been a major California draw (arguably more than Diaz) and has a history of being well-paid. Remember KJ Noons complaining about the pay disparity between him and Diaz? Pfft. II haven't heard Diaz whine, though I'm sure he made a lot more in sponsorship dollars. And 'm sure Nick will make more for his next fight. “I wonder if Diaz knew this before the fight. I’ll bet he didn’t.”

I’ll bet he did, Shamrock has always been a major California draw (arguably more than Diaz) and has a history of being well-paid.

Remember KJ Noons complaining about the pay disparity between him and Diaz? Pfft. II haven’t heard Diaz whine, though I’m sure he made a lot more in sponsorship dollars.

And ‘m sure Nick will make more for his next fight.

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]]> By: screwface http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/15/shamrock-leads-the-pack-with-a-369000-salary-from-this-past-saturdays-strikeforce-event/comment-page-1/#comment-69437 screwface Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:38:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13734#comment-69437 nate won tuf and only lost 1 fight since. Lose a few more and its bye bye nate. dont misunderstand my post. i love nick diaz and yes dana white is full of himself. but these are the facts. dana will take nick back when nick has proven himself in HIS eyes. people love to watch nick fight love or hate and same with tito, but if dana doesnt like you its not always about the money. nate won tuf and only lost 1 fight since. Lose a few more and its bye bye nate. dont misunderstand my post. i love nick diaz and yes dana white is full of himself. but these are the facts. dana will take nick back when nick has proven himself in HIS eyes. people love to watch nick fight love or hate and same with tito, but if dana doesnt like you its not always about the money.

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]]> By: tyler http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/15/shamrock-leads-the-pack-with-a-369000-salary-from-this-past-saturdays-strikeforce-event/comment-page-1/#comment-69435 tyler Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:26:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13734#comment-69435 notdanawhite, Frank getting paid that much isn't new he made nearly that for his last fight "with no PPV revenue". Also screwface saying Dana's not a fan of Nick's attitude that's why he doesn't want him in the UFC but it's ok for his brother Nate as if they are polar opposites. They're exactly the same and who has a worse attitude than White himself. notdanawhite,
Frank getting paid that much isn’t new he made nearly that for his last fight “with no PPV revenue”.

Also screwface saying Dana’s not a fan of Nick’s attitude that’s why he doesn’t want him in the UFC but it’s ok for his brother Nate as if they are polar opposites. They’re exactly the same and who has a worse attitude than White himself.

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]]> By: screwface http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/15/shamrock-leads-the-pack-with-a-369000-salary-from-this-past-saturdays-strikeforce-event/comment-page-1/#comment-69434 screwface Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:58:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13734#comment-69434 trust me the moment ufc makes diaz an offer, hes back in, they just dont want him. hed take the paycut. he said a few times he wants to be back in UFC fighting the best of the best win or lose, but i dont think dana is a fan of his attitude or out of cage habits. i really hope this last win may change his mind tho, id love to see diaz back in UFC. maybe after he puts the beatdown on cung le things will go his way. trust me the moment ufc makes diaz an offer, hes back in, they just dont want him. hed take the paycut. he said a few times he wants to be back in UFC fighting the best of the best win or lose, but i dont think dana is a fan of his attitude or out of cage habits. i really hope this last win may change his mind tho, id love to see diaz back in UFC. maybe after he puts the beatdown on cung le things will go his way.

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]]> By: notdanawhite http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/15/shamrock-leads-the-pack-with-a-369000-salary-from-this-past-saturdays-strikeforce-event/comment-page-1/#comment-69433 notdanawhite Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:35:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13734#comment-69433 Maybe Frank should manage Nick. 369K from a promotion with no PPV revenue is very impressive. I guess the Showtime money helps. I was really surprised by Shamrocks sub-par performance. Maybe he had the flu or something. Diaz looked elegant by comparison. I thought It would be much more of a battle. Srikeforce/Showtime looks like a good match. Excellent and entertaining production, in my opinion. Maybe Frank should manage Nick. 369K from a promotion with no PPV revenue is very impressive. I guess the Showtime money helps.

I was really surprised by Shamrocks sub-par performance. Maybe he had the flu or something. Diaz looked elegant by comparison. I thought It would be much more of a battle.

Srikeforce/Showtime looks like a good match. Excellent and entertaining production, in my opinion.

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]]> By: JJ Docker http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/15/shamrock-leads-the-pack-with-a-369000-salary-from-this-past-saturdays-strikeforce-event/comment-page-1/#comment-69430 JJ Docker Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:00:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13734#comment-69430 1. Frank Shamrock: $369,790 INSANE. How he got them to pay him this much is beyond me. I really expect him to have got a portion of the gate as well. If nothing else, Shamrock is a shrewd business man. That's certainly a large gulf between actual talent and paycheck. Diaz needs to go back to the UFC, man. If he keeps his new mass and cuts down to 170, he could be a real force at WW. 1. Frank Shamrock: $369,790

INSANE.
How he got them to pay him this much is beyond me. I really expect him to have got a portion of the gate as well. If nothing else, Shamrock is a shrewd business man. That’s certainly a large gulf between actual talent and paycheck.
Diaz needs to go back to the UFC, man. If he keeps his new mass and cuts down to 170, he could be a real force at WW.

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]]> By: DrummerFFG http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/15/shamrock-leads-the-pack-with-a-369000-salary-from-this-past-saturdays-strikeforce-event/comment-page-1/#comment-69429 DrummerFFG Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:39:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13734#comment-69429 Wow...I wish I could get paid $369,000 and a portion of my company's profits for not even showing up to work. That would be sweet. Wow…I wish I could get paid $369,000 and a portion of my company’s profits for not even showing up to work. That would be sweet.

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]]> By: Hohlraum http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/15/shamrock-leads-the-pack-with-a-369000-salary-from-this-past-saturdays-strikeforce-event/comment-page-1/#comment-69428 Hohlraum Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:35:35 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13734#comment-69428 RE: Diaz He hasn't fought much in the last couple years. If he can fight 4x a year at that salary he'll be doing much better than most 9-5'ers could hope to achieve and he'll be doing something that he loves. Its doubtful that after his last performance Frank will ever get that kind of a pay day again until he has several consecutive wins against known opponents. RE: Diaz

He hasn’t fought much in the last couple years. If he can fight 4x a year at that salary he’ll be doing much better than most 9-5′ers could hope to achieve and he’ll be doing something that he loves.

Its doubtful that after his last performance Frank will ever get that kind of a pay day again until he has several consecutive wins against known opponents.

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]]> By: wardog http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/15/shamrock-leads-the-pack-with-a-369000-salary-from-this-past-saturdays-strikeforce-event/comment-page-1/#comment-69427 wardog Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:34:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13734#comment-69427 I know some people who say they would not make the jump into MMA because of what is at the end of the tunnel... no money! I mean seeing these numbers makes me believe that there should be a minimum salary imposed by the various athletic commissions. I know some people who say they would not make the jump into MMA because of what is at the end of the tunnel… no money! I mean seeing these numbers makes me believe that there should be a minimum salary imposed by the various athletic commissions.

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]]> By: Angry Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/15/shamrock-leads-the-pack-with-a-369000-salary-from-this-past-saturdays-strikeforce-event/comment-page-1/#comment-69426 Angry Mike Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:30:18 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13734#comment-69426 I wonder if Diaz knew this before the fight. I'll bet he didn't. I'll bet he has a few blunt words for his manager, too. I wonder if Diaz knew this before the fight. I’ll bet he didn’t. I’ll bet he has a few blunt words for his manager, too.

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