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	<title>Comments on: UFC 97 Recap: Silva and Leites disappoint, Shogun batters Liddell and much more</title>
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		<title>By: perfecto</title>
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		<dc:creator>perfecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell yeah and I&#039;m sure in the last ten years more people have done this then just these two. The only reason GSP gets so much flak is because Penn is a little F N cry baby bitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell yeah and I&#8217;m sure in the last ten years more people have done this then just these two. The only reason GSP gets so much flak is because Penn is a little F N cry baby bitch.</p>
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		<title>By: MMA-LOGIC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMA-LOGIC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And we all know both GSP and Silva would still have won there fights anyway vaseline was no deciding factor.&quot;

Yeah anyone who cheats and then wins shouldn&#039;t be called for cheating...cuz they would have won anyway right?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And we all know both GSP and Silva would still have won there fights anyway vaseline was no deciding factor.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah anyone who cheats and then wins shouldn&#8217;t be called for cheating&#8230;cuz they would have won anyway right?.</p>
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		<title>By: perfecto</title>
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		<dc:creator>perfecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant believe everyone crys about vaseline. Its doesnt make you more slippery than your sweat if anything it actually sheds the sweat away and may give someone a better grip. And we all know both GSP and Silva would still have won there fights anyway vaseline was no deciding factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant believe everyone crys about vaseline. Its doesnt make you more slippery than your sweat if anything it actually sheds the sweat away and may give someone a better grip. And we all know both GSP and Silva would still have won there fights anyway vaseline was no deciding factor.</p>
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		<title>By: cere</title>
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		<dc:creator>cere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leites was the disappointment of the night. Anderson did what he could, but he is not an idiot. A world class Jui-Jitsu fighters wants to go to the ground, you generally do not oblige. If Leites wanted the fight on the ground, he is responsible to take it to the ground. This does not mean repeatedly laying on the ground lie a dog in heat and expect Silva to just jump into your guard. That would be stupid. Yet, Leites did so, over and over and over again.

As far as the vaseline goes,  how the hell GSP got called a cheater for what happened with Penn, and yet White, the UFC and any one else official make no mentions of Anderson repeatedly wiping his face and then his cheated, shoulders and back. It wasn&#039;t even subtle. But, is there an actual rule that says a fighter cannot touch his own face during the fight? If not, then he didn&#039;t break any rules.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leites was the disappointment of the night. Anderson did what he could, but he is not an idiot. A world class Jui-Jitsu fighters wants to go to the ground, you generally do not oblige. If Leites wanted the fight on the ground, he is responsible to take it to the ground. This does not mean repeatedly laying on the ground lie a dog in heat and expect Silva to just jump into your guard. That would be stupid. Yet, Leites did so, over and over and over again.</p>
<p>As far as the vaseline goes,  how the hell GSP got called a cheater for what happened with Penn, and yet White, the UFC and any one else official make no mentions of Anderson repeatedly wiping his face and then his cheated, shoulders and back. It wasn&#8217;t even subtle. But, is there an actual rule that says a fighter cannot touch his own face during the fight? If not, then he didn&#8217;t break any rules.</p>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 04:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Dana White and Joe Silva are ruining Anderson Silva’s legacy by wasting him in a the weakest division. Either dig up some talent somehow or let him move up a weight class and we’ll see how good he really is.&quot;

This was my thought as well.  Cote and Leites are clearly not in Silva&#039;s league... nor was James Irvin.  It&#039;s been over a year since his fight with Henderson, and that was his last opponent that really deserved to be billed as a main event attraction.  Main events really should have two main-event fighters... not one super star and someone still building their name.  

Leites was a horrible choice for this fight.  Machida, who fights an even more defensive counterstriking style than Silva, was given Thiago Silva who was known to be one to plod straight forward and try to knock someone out... a perfect opponent to make a counter puncher look good.  There aren&#039;t enough Chris Lebens around a middle weight to make Silva look like a brutal killing machine like he did 2 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dana White and Joe Silva are ruining Anderson Silva’s legacy by wasting him in a the weakest division. Either dig up some talent somehow or let him move up a weight class and we’ll see how good he really is.&#8221;</p>
<p>This was my thought as well.  Cote and Leites are clearly not in Silva&#8217;s league&#8230; nor was James Irvin.  It&#8217;s been over a year since his fight with Henderson, and that was his last opponent that really deserved to be billed as a main event attraction.  Main events really should have two main-event fighters&#8230; not one super star and someone still building their name.  </p>
<p>Leites was a horrible choice for this fight.  Machida, who fights an even more defensive counterstriking style than Silva, was given Thiago Silva who was known to be one to plod straight forward and try to knock someone out&#8230; a perfect opponent to make a counter puncher look good.  There aren&#8217;t enough Chris Lebens around a middle weight to make Silva look like a brutal killing machine like he did 2 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: MMA-LOGIC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MMA-LOGIC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best P4P fighter can&#039;t finish that guy?. Silva did disappoint, he wouldn&#039;t engage and was unwilling to go for the kill for most of the fight. Showboat as much as you like Silva but that just makes people resent you. It was the worst main event I have ever seen. 
Leites made a fool of himself. 
Shogun looked good and Lidell didn&#039;t.

P.S. Does Fedor lose before you call him best P4P, whatever that means anyway, He has never really been beaten and has fought about 10 UFC, Pride and K1champs, the 3 biggest martial arts orgs in the world. GSP is a cheat who has beaten 3, 1 of them being Serra, Silva has beaten a Pancrase champ, a Pride champ and a UFC champ. The idea that Fedor isn&#039;t considered the best fighter in the world is a joke. I mean what does he have to do!!!? He just beat Arlovski and Sylvia in the first rd by TKO and KO for crying out loud. Oh thats right he isn&#039;t in the UFC...that&#039;s why and hasn&#039;t beaten fighters in the class of Leben, Cote or Serra. Oh and he only puts &quot;breathing technique&quot; on his face. I mean come on, the officials were warned about it and then caught them doing it!. But people on this forum say &quot; ...he would have won anyway...&quot;. HE CHEATED, or at least his corner man did and more than once. GSP= Greasy Shouldered Person. He will always be tainted in my veiw and his 2nd victory over Penn should be taken from his record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best P4P fighter can&#8217;t finish that guy?. Silva did disappoint, he wouldn&#8217;t engage and was unwilling to go for the kill for most of the fight. Showboat as much as you like Silva but that just makes people resent you. It was the worst main event I have ever seen.<br />
Leites made a fool of himself.<br />
Shogun looked good and Lidell didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>P.S. Does Fedor lose before you call him best P4P, whatever that means anyway, He has never really been beaten and has fought about 10 UFC, Pride and K1champs, the 3 biggest martial arts orgs in the world. GSP is a cheat who has beaten 3, 1 of them being Serra, Silva has beaten a Pancrase champ, a Pride champ and a UFC champ. The idea that Fedor isn&#8217;t considered the best fighter in the world is a joke. I mean what does he have to do!!!? He just beat Arlovski and Sylvia in the first rd by TKO and KO for crying out loud. Oh thats right he isn&#8217;t in the UFC&#8230;that&#8217;s why and hasn&#8217;t beaten fighters in the class of Leben, Cote or Serra. Oh and he only puts &#8220;breathing technique&#8221; on his face. I mean come on, the officials were warned about it and then caught them doing it!. But people on this forum say &#8221; &#8230;he would have won anyway&#8230;&#8221;. HE CHEATED, or at least his corner man did and more than once. GSP= Greasy Shouldered Person. He will always be tainted in my veiw and his 2nd victory over Penn should be taken from his record.</p>
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		<title>By: Silly Mo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silly Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t see the fight...but I do agree with those that said Silva was defending a title and therefore he was justified in not taking too many chances.  Styles make fights and I think that a forreal wrestler or somebody with great wrestling can be the one to beat Silva.  GSP might have good enough wrestling but I don&#039;t think he has a good enough chin.  All that grease on his body ain&#039;t going to matter when Anderson puts his 10 ounce on his chin.  

But how come nobody ever mentions Rashad Evans as one of the top pound for pound fighters.  He is about 3 good fights away from being one of the top 3 let alone the top 5.  He&#039;s one of the smartest fighters out there.  Cocky sure.....but so were a lot of great fighters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see the fight&#8230;but I do agree with those that said Silva was defending a title and therefore he was justified in not taking too many chances.  Styles make fights and I think that a forreal wrestler or somebody with great wrestling can be the one to beat Silva.  GSP might have good enough wrestling but I don&#8217;t think he has a good enough chin.  All that grease on his body ain&#8217;t going to matter when Anderson puts his 10 ounce on his chin.  </p>
<p>But how come nobody ever mentions Rashad Evans as one of the top pound for pound fighters.  He is about 3 good fights away from being one of the top 3 let alone the top 5.  He&#8217;s one of the smartest fighters out there.  Cocky sure&#8230;..but so were a lot of great fighters.</p>
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		<title>By: Bullylover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bullylover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only guy i see that is capable of beating silva who hasn&#039;t already fought him is maia. However compared to Silva he&#039;s a one trick pony. if Maia doesn&#039;t sub him quick in the beging of the 1st 2 rds then tit&#039;ll look pretty much like this. A Gsp/Silva fight does sound pretty entertaing though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only guy i see that is capable of beating silva who hasn&#8217;t already fought him is maia. However compared to Silva he&#8217;s a one trick pony. if Maia doesn&#8217;t sub him quick in the beging of the 1st 2 rds then tit&#8217;ll look pretty much like this. A Gsp/Silva fight does sound pretty entertaing though</p>
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		<title>By: BigDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things i need to say about last nights card:

1. Chuck thanks for the memories now retire before you suffer some irriversable brain damage.

2. Can everyone finally take there heads out of there butts and realize that GSP is far and away the top fighter on the planet. In my opinion Silva isnt even in the top 3 anymore because of the last two fights where he seem to afraid to engage anyone even guys he should destroy.

Right now my top five P4P are :

1. GSP
2. Fedor
3. Machida
4. Faber
5. Silva</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things i need to say about last nights card:</p>
<p>1. Chuck thanks for the memories now retire before you suffer some irriversable brain damage.</p>
<p>2. Can everyone finally take there heads out of there butts and realize that GSP is far and away the top fighter on the planet. In my opinion Silva isnt even in the top 3 anymore because of the last two fights where he seem to afraid to engage anyone even guys he should destroy.</p>
<p>Right now my top five P4P are :</p>
<p>1. GSP<br />
2. Fedor<br />
3. Machida<br />
4. Faber<br />
5. Silva</p>
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		<title>By: perfecto</title>
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		<dc:creator>perfecto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I knew Leites had no business going for the title but damn that was a very embarrasing fight for both of them. One could say that Leites pussed out and just didnt want to fight and on the other hand one could say the Silva was scarred to go on the ground. As already stated Silva does need to be smart and stay in control so he can keep his belt but at some point he has to go to the ground it is MMA and if he cant beat a JJ guy on the ground then its obvious where his weakness is.  And yes GSP is the answer to the reign of Silva. Silva has shown time and again that his ground game is not great it is ok but GSP DOMINATES so called great wreslters and JJ guys on the ground. There is always that chance Silva will knock him out but GSP doesnt let himself get hit to often. GSP is MORE well rounded. Yes Silva has better striking but GSP is not that far off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I knew Leites had no business going for the title but damn that was a very embarrasing fight for both of them. One could say that Leites pussed out and just didnt want to fight and on the other hand one could say the Silva was scarred to go on the ground. As already stated Silva does need to be smart and stay in control so he can keep his belt but at some point he has to go to the ground it is MMA and if he cant beat a JJ guy on the ground then its obvious where his weakness is.  And yes GSP is the answer to the reign of Silva. Silva has shown time and again that his ground game is not great it is ok but GSP DOMINATES so called great wreslters and JJ guys on the ground. There is always that chance Silva will knock him out but GSP doesnt let himself get hit to often. GSP is MORE well rounded. Yes Silva has better striking but GSP is not that far off.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankW</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silva was obviously not looking to finish or he would have engaged Lietes.He engaged Rich Franklin twice. Maybe they were friends and and he doesn&#039;t like to hurt Brazilians or something along those lines.Either  way he was taunting the guy and punching him in the leg rather than the body or head. 
I think no matter the opponent he can do the samething if he doesnt want to engage. 
I put my money on it that GSP will be able to take him down and GNP him so he gets serious about ending the fight or taking damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silva was obviously not looking to finish or he would have engaged Lietes.He engaged Rich Franklin twice. Maybe they were friends and and he doesn&#8217;t like to hurt Brazilians or something along those lines.Either  way he was taunting the guy and punching him in the leg rather than the body or head.<br />
I think no matter the opponent he can do the samething if he doesnt want to engage.<br />
I put my money on it that GSP will be able to take him down and GNP him so he gets serious about ending the fight or taking damage.</p>
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		<title>By: Ft. Dub</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ft. Dub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever said that Joe SIlva and Dana White are more to blame than anyone are right on the money.  Spider&#039;s ability to carry a PPV just disappeared.  I was hyping the fight to non-MMA die hards watching with me and they all basically said after that they have ZERO interest in seeing Spider again.  The UFC isn&#039;t putting him in position to look like the P4P champ they claim he is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever said that Joe SIlva and Dana White are more to blame than anyone are right on the money.  Spider&#8217;s ability to carry a PPV just disappeared.  I was hyping the fight to non-MMA die hards watching with me and they all basically said after that they have ZERO interest in seeing Spider again.  The UFC isn&#8217;t putting him in position to look like the P4P champ they claim he is.</p>
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		<title>By: tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;amicable relationship&quot; between the UFC and Strikeforce as you put it died when Scott Coker aquired the assets from Pro Elite.

That didn&#039;t sit well with Zuffa hence the counter programming of their first Showtime card by replaying UFC 94.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;amicable relationship&#8221; between the UFC and Strikeforce as you put it died when Scott Coker aquired the assets from Pro Elite.</p>
<p>That didn&#8217;t sit well with Zuffa hence the counter programming of their first Showtime card by replaying UFC 94.</p>
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		<title>By: Chipp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>freebirdjd,

Good post, I&#039;m w/ ya.</description>
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<p>Good post, I&#8217;m w/ ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathedron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathedron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is no one talking about Cung Le appearing during a UFC telecast?  It&#039;s not like they really needed him to promote that movie.  The UFC has never done something that nice for a top star of a rival promotion.  The amicable relationship between the UFC and Strikeforce opens up some interesting possibilities... like maybe giving Anderson Silva and Cung Le a decent challenge.

This really comes down to matchmaking or the lack thereof.  If they keep throwing one trick ponies at Silva, we&#039;re going to keep getting bad fights.  His last two fights have been against grossly undeserving opponents who have ONE way to win and they build their entire game around it.  They beat people who are far better than they are by simply trying one thing over and over until it catches them.  What&#039;s Silva to do?  He&#039;d have to be a little cautious.  One mistake and some scrub takes his belt.  He needs real challengers and there just aren&#039;t any left at 185.  Every legit contender has resulted in a good fight, but they&#039;re running out.  I say, bring in Wandy for a Silva vs Silva title fight, let GSP move up and go for two titles, or make Rua cut to a more natural 185 as soon as possible.  Not a lot of options left.

Dana White and Joe Silva are ruining Anderson Silva&#039;s legacy by wasting him in a the weakest division.  Either dig up some talent somehow or let him move up a weight class and we&#039;ll see how good he really is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is no one talking about Cung Le appearing during a UFC telecast?  It&#8217;s not like they really needed him to promote that movie.  The UFC has never done something that nice for a top star of a rival promotion.  The amicable relationship between the UFC and Strikeforce opens up some interesting possibilities&#8230; like maybe giving Anderson Silva and Cung Le a decent challenge.</p>
<p>This really comes down to matchmaking or the lack thereof.  If they keep throwing one trick ponies at Silva, we&#8217;re going to keep getting bad fights.  His last two fights have been against grossly undeserving opponents who have ONE way to win and they build their entire game around it.  They beat people who are far better than they are by simply trying one thing over and over until it catches them.  What&#8217;s Silva to do?  He&#8217;d have to be a little cautious.  One mistake and some scrub takes his belt.  He needs real challengers and there just aren&#8217;t any left at 185.  Every legit contender has resulted in a good fight, but they&#8217;re running out.  I say, bring in Wandy for a Silva vs Silva title fight, let GSP move up and go for two titles, or make Rua cut to a more natural 185 as soon as possible.  Not a lot of options left.</p>
<p>Dana White and Joe Silva are ruining Anderson Silva&#8217;s legacy by wasting him in a the weakest division.  Either dig up some talent somehow or let him move up a weight class and we&#8217;ll see how good he really is.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just want to start by saying, anyone who thinks Silva is overrated.. is just wrong.. there&#039;s no opinion there.. it&#039;s a fact that he&#039;s just that good.. 

Tell me, have you EVER seen Nate Marquardt taken out like that? Ever? no.
What about Hendo? no.
and Franklin? definitely not.

Anderson has done what no one else in the world could do to some guys.. 

So he has one slow fight in his last 10 and he&#039;s overrated now? come on..

Now, Second, it looks like we may have the Rua from PRIDE back now.. which is devistating news for the LHW division..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just want to start by saying, anyone who thinks Silva is overrated.. is just wrong.. there&#8217;s no opinion there.. it&#8217;s a fact that he&#8217;s just that good.. </p>
<p>Tell me, have you EVER seen Nate Marquardt taken out like that? Ever? no.<br />
What about Hendo? no.<br />
and Franklin? definitely not.</p>
<p>Anderson has done what no one else in the world could do to some guys.. </p>
<p>So he has one slow fight in his last 10 and he&#8217;s overrated now? come on..</p>
<p>Now, Second, it looks like we may have the Rua from PRIDE back now.. which is devistating news for the LHW division..</p>
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		<title>By: AK47</title>
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		<dc:creator>AK47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was nothing like the Starnes fight. Leites ran his game plan, he tried to take Silva down over and over, through some pretty good kicks and even won one round (or tied one round, according to one judge). He made a mistake in not engaging more, especially early in the fight when he would have had an easier time taking Silva down, but we can hardly blame him for not standing in front of Silva and trying to go toe to toe with one of the best MMA strikers in the world.

Silva takes his half of the blame, too. He had just as many chances to take the fight to his opponent, and he blew it. Sure, he won the decision, but you nobody is going to rank you #1 P4P for just doing enough to get the win. With the Cote fight, I disagreed with the criticism; at the time I thought Silva was just being careful and avoiding the KO. This fight was different, Leites doesn&#039;t have the striking power that Cote did, and he was still dancing around the cage like he was scared he might get hit. If this is the way he wants to fight, fine, but it&#039;s not going to earn my cash in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was nothing like the Starnes fight. Leites ran his game plan, he tried to take Silva down over and over, through some pretty good kicks and even won one round (or tied one round, according to one judge). He made a mistake in not engaging more, especially early in the fight when he would have had an easier time taking Silva down, but we can hardly blame him for not standing in front of Silva and trying to go toe to toe with one of the best MMA strikers in the world.</p>
<p>Silva takes his half of the blame, too. He had just as many chances to take the fight to his opponent, and he blew it. Sure, he won the decision, but you nobody is going to rank you #1 P4P for just doing enough to get the win. With the Cote fight, I disagreed with the criticism; at the time I thought Silva was just being careful and avoiding the KO. This fight was different, Leites doesn&#8217;t have the striking power that Cote did, and he was still dancing around the cage like he was scared he might get hit. If this is the way he wants to fight, fine, but it&#8217;s not going to earn my cash in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: PlagueAngel</title>
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		<dc:creator>PlagueAngel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people were furious when starnes ran away from Quarry. I also think that is the reason why he lost his job in the UFC. About Silvia, I think people expect more from him especially since he might leave MMA in a few matches to do boxing. Do we want to remember his legacy of pinpoint destruction or clowning/toying around?  I also believe Leites blew his chance and I hope he is ready for criticism.

On another side note, watching the Tito Ortiz pathetic performance against Machida. Did anyone hear Ortiz scream &quot;F*ck&quot; on the top of his lungs after the fight? That is really a gem of a memory!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people were furious when starnes ran away from Quarry. I also think that is the reason why he lost his job in the UFC. About Silvia, I think people expect more from him especially since he might leave MMA in a few matches to do boxing. Do we want to remember his legacy of pinpoint destruction or clowning/toying around?  I also believe Leites blew his chance and I hope he is ready for criticism.</p>
<p>On another side note, watching the Tito Ortiz pathetic performance against Machida. Did anyone hear Ortiz scream &#8220;F*ck&#8221; on the top of his lungs after the fight? That is really a gem of a memory!</p>
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		<title>By: screwface</title>
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		<dc:creator>screwface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>were people mad at nate quarry when calib starnes ran from him? no . how can any1 be mad at silva, hes the champ, leites obviously didnt want to be in that cage. he had the opportunity of a lifetime and blew it. he didnt want the belt that much was obvious. this wasnt just a regular fight people. silva did what he could with an opponent who refused to engage. silva took no damage and still managed to damage his opponent. blaming silva is ludicrous. but styles make fights, i think that was a good window in what the evans machida fight may end up looking like.

i love chuck, i still think he has good performances left in him. shogun just came to fight, and he looked way better then his last fights. that division is just somewhat stacked now. i know dana put his foot in his mouth and said chuck needs to impress so no choice but to backup his mouth with action and give chuck the boot. but i really hope chuck takes it somewhere else. id still watch him fight. i know thats a lot of losses, but the man takes chances to put on a good show and for that i respect him win or lose. just hit the ab roller and turn it around :p

still an overall boring ufc, and the exact reason im happy to see strikeforce back in the game. not looking so bad now is it. maybe not the best of the best but they still know how to make entertaining matchups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>were people mad at nate quarry when calib starnes ran from him? no . how can any1 be mad at silva, hes the champ, leites obviously didnt want to be in that cage. he had the opportunity of a lifetime and blew it. he didnt want the belt that much was obvious. this wasnt just a regular fight people. silva did what he could with an opponent who refused to engage. silva took no damage and still managed to damage his opponent. blaming silva is ludicrous. but styles make fights, i think that was a good window in what the evans machida fight may end up looking like.</p>
<p>i love chuck, i still think he has good performances left in him. shogun just came to fight, and he looked way better then his last fights. that division is just somewhat stacked now. i know dana put his foot in his mouth and said chuck needs to impress so no choice but to backup his mouth with action and give chuck the boot. but i really hope chuck takes it somewhere else. id still watch him fight. i know thats a lot of losses, but the man takes chances to put on a good show and for that i respect him win or lose. just hit the ab roller and turn it around :p</p>
<p>still an overall boring ufc, and the exact reason im happy to see strikeforce back in the game. not looking so bad now is it. maybe not the best of the best but they still know how to make entertaining matchups.</p>
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		<title>By: Revenge88</title>
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		<dc:creator>Revenge88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silva = Overrated.</description>
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