Comments on: If it’s truly over… thanks for the memories Chuck http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/if-its-truly-overthanks-for-the-memories-chuck/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:26:45 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/if-its-truly-overthanks-for-the-memories-chuck/comment-page-1/#comment-69682 MMA-LOGIC Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:55:31 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13842#comment-69682 Overeem and Mezger were very good strikers too. I don't think he was overrated at all. People figured him out a little and his chin is not as good as it was, thats all. As for him retiring, well that is up to him so why does everyone try and force it upon him, I mean before the fight and after the fight that is what was talked about but Lidell gave no indication that was going to happen. So back off and let him decide for himself. I think he has earned that right. Overeem and Mezger were very good strikers too. I don’t think he was overrated at all. People figured him out a little and his chin is not as good as it was, thats all. As for him retiring, well that is up to him so why does everyone try and force it upon him, I mean before the fight and after the fight that is what was talked about but Lidell gave no indication that was going to happen. So back off and let him decide for himself. I think he has earned that right.

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]]> By: syko http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/if-its-truly-overthanks-for-the-memories-chuck/comment-page-1/#comment-69649 syko Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:01:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13842#comment-69649 What is there left to say about Chuck the "IceMan" Liddell? Ive followed his career for quite a while and I think that EVERYONE can say that Liddell's stand up was overrated and all that, but truth be told, Tito, Vitor, Randy, Babalu, Randleman, AND Wandy are all good strikers, and quite frankly, the victories over Tito, Vitor, Babalu, Randleman, and Randy were when he was young. Chuck was a beast. It was never an arguement of being overrated. The reason that he was so good back then was because A. He was young. and B. He was a great wrestler. In the older days of MMA if you were good at 2 styles, you were unstoppable, and he was a great striker with probably the best takedown defense EVER. He brought MMA into the main stream, and I'll always admire him for never ever giving up or giving in. Thanks for all the Memories Chuck What is there left to say about Chuck the “IceMan” Liddell? Ive followed his career for quite a while and I think that EVERYONE can say that Liddell’s stand up was overrated and all that, but truth be told, Tito, Vitor, Randy, Babalu, Randleman, AND Wandy are all good strikers, and quite frankly, the victories over Tito, Vitor, Babalu, Randleman, and Randy were when he was young.

Chuck was a beast. It was never an arguement of being overrated. The reason that he was so good back then was because A. He was young. and B. He was a great wrestler. In the older days of MMA if you were good at 2 styles, you were unstoppable, and he was a great striker with probably the best takedown defense EVER. He brought MMA into the main stream, and I’ll always admire him for never ever giving up or giving in. Thanks for all the Memories Chuck

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]]> By: Angry Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/if-its-truly-overthanks-for-the-memories-chuck/comment-page-1/#comment-69628 Angry Mike Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:51:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13842#comment-69628 It's easy to look back now and wonder about Liddell's success. He is a pure striker who rarely demonstrated any other form of offense. But during at his peak the question was whether his opponent would make it into the second round. One hell of an exciting ride. I suspect he'll fight occasionally in other orgs. Hopefully he can also maintain a relationship with UFC due to his drawing power. Maybe some guest commentating like Couture during his retirement. It’s easy to look back now and wonder about Liddell’s success. He is a pure striker who rarely demonstrated any other form of offense. But during at his peak the question was whether his opponent would make it into the second round. One hell of an exciting ride. I suspect he’ll fight occasionally in other orgs. Hopefully he can also maintain a relationship with UFC due to his drawing power. Maybe some guest commentating like Couture during his retirement.

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]]> By: Bryan Levick http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/if-its-truly-overthanks-for-the-memories-chuck/comment-page-1/#comment-69627 Bryan Levick Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:51:44 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13842#comment-69627 Wardog, I completely agree he truly transcended the sport of MMA into everyday life. Even if you were not a fan of MMA there was a good shot you could recognize who Chuck Liddell was. As I said I was not his biggest fan, in fact I actually rooted against him when he fought Couture and to an extent when he fought Tito, but that was before I really got to know all about him. I really hope this is it for him, there is a picture on Sports Illsutrated of him leaning over the cage facing the fans and it is sad, I don't want to see him getting knocked out anymore. By the way, Wanderlei Silva was calling him out yesterday. Please let the guy retire in peace. Wardog, I completely agree he truly transcended the sport of MMA into everyday life. Even if you were not a fan of MMA there was a good shot you could recognize who Chuck Liddell was. As I said I was not his biggest fan, in fact I actually rooted against him when he fought Couture and to an extent when he fought Tito, but that was before I really got to know all about him. I really hope this is it for him, there is a picture on Sports Illsutrated of him leaning over the cage facing the fans and it is sad, I don’t want to see him getting knocked out anymore. By the way, Wanderlei Silva was calling him out yesterday. Please let the guy retire in peace.

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]]> By: tyler http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/if-its-truly-overthanks-for-the-memories-chuck/comment-page-1/#comment-69623 tyler Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:34:13 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13842#comment-69623 IF it's truly over for Chuck ... GOOD! IF it’s truly over for Chuck … GOOD!

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]]> By: wardog http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/if-its-truly-overthanks-for-the-memories-chuck/comment-page-1/#comment-69622 wardog Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:10:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13842#comment-69622 Liddell's fans and critics can argue back and forth all day, but Chuck is one of the fighters who made the UFC famous. I am a history professor and currently in one of my classes of 35 student (about 18 males) only 2 watch the UFC. But all males and most of the females know who Liddell is. And Bryan I would have to say his win over Babalau Sobral at UFC 40 may have been one of his most devestating KO's. And alot of guys said Chuck's stand up game was overrated, but the main problem was all of the grapplers were beating the stand up guys. And when they got to Chuck he took them out. Also he is 39, and as a fellow 39 year old I can honestly say your reaction time really decreases. Not good for a counter puncher. But Liddell has to be ranked with anyone as one of the most influential MMA fighters ever. Liddell’s fans and critics can argue back and forth all day, but Chuck is one of the fighters who made the UFC famous. I am a history professor and currently in one of my classes of 35 student (about 18 males) only 2 watch the UFC. But all males and most of the females know who Liddell is. And Bryan I would have to say his win over Babalau Sobral at UFC 40 may have been one of his most devestating KO’s. And alot of guys said Chuck’s stand up game was overrated, but the main problem was all of the grapplers were beating the stand up guys. And when they got to Chuck he took them out. Also he is 39, and as a fellow 39 year old I can honestly say your reaction time really decreases. Not good for a counter puncher. But Liddell has to be ranked with anyone as one of the most influential MMA fighters ever.

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]]> By: drdsanders http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/if-its-truly-overthanks-for-the-memories-chuck/comment-page-1/#comment-69583 drdsanders Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:18:38 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13842#comment-69583 Since the MMA boom in 2005 I've felt Liddell's standup was over rated. He was known as a great striker. Until he faced Rampage, his title defenses were against non strikers. Since June 07 Chuck has had to fight guys with stand up games and has been knocked out 3 times. When compared to other strikers, Chuck doesn't have the solid stand up game he's credited for. (one exception...the wandy fight was amazing) Since the MMA boom in 2005 I’ve felt Liddell’s standup was over rated. He was known as a great striker. Until he faced Rampage, his title defenses were against non strikers. Since June 07 Chuck has had to fight guys with stand up games and has been knocked out 3 times. When compared to other strikers, Chuck doesn’t have the solid stand up game he’s credited for. (one exception…the wandy fight was amazing)

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]]> By: Hohlraum http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/if-its-truly-overthanks-for-the-memories-chuck/comment-page-1/#comment-69575 Hohlraum Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:42:24 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13842#comment-69575 Unless the UFC has him locked up in a contract that will prevent him from fighting in other organizations I highly doubt we've seen the last of him. Unless the UFC has him locked up in a contract that will prevent him from fighting in other organizations I highly doubt we’ve seen the last of him.

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