Comments on: Mauricio “Shogun” Rua Wants a Rematch with Forrest Griffin http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/mauricio-shogun-rua-wants-a-rematch-with-forrest-griffin/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: RU486 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/mauricio-shogun-rua-wants-a-rematch-with-forrest-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-69677 RU486 Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:44:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13853#comment-69677 It's pretty obvious at this point that the contenders at LHW are at this order: 1. Quinton Jackson (couldn't fight so #2 steps in) 2. Lyoto Machida 3. Forrest Griffin 4. Mauricio Rua 5. Keith Jardine 6. Luis Cane 7. Thiago Silva *Wanderlei Silva would be somewhere between #3 and #6 depending on if he stays at LHW although he seems intent on fighting Anderson Silva now at 185. It’s pretty obvious at this point that the contenders at LHW are at this order:

1. Quinton Jackson (couldn’t fight so #2 steps in)
2. Lyoto Machida
3. Forrest Griffin
4. Mauricio Rua
5. Keith Jardine
6. Luis Cane
7. Thiago Silva

*Wanderlei Silva would be somewhere between #3 and #6 depending on if he stays at LHW although he seems intent on fighting Anderson Silva now at 185.

]]> By: wardog http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/mauricio-shogun-rua-wants-a-rematch-with-forrest-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-69664 wardog Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:01:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13853#comment-69664 It just shows that Liddell even in a bad defeat still has some clout in the cage. I would like to see these two go at it. There needs to be some straightening out of the LHW division, as there is no dominant fighters including Rampage! Time for Dana and others to make matches for the next couple of months and establish a true number one contender. No more Leites type fights! It just shows that Liddell even in a bad defeat still has some clout in the cage. I would like to see these two go at it. There needs to be some straightening out of the LHW division, as there is no dominant fighters including Rampage! Time for Dana and others to make matches for the next couple of months and establish a true number one contender. No more Leites type fights!

]]> By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/mauricio-shogun-rua-wants-a-rematch-with-forrest-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-69652 Rich S. Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:58:15 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13853#comment-69652 Yup, i'm thinking that if Shogun showed up in the same condition he was in for Liddell, Forrest/Shogun 2 would go more like people THOUGHT it would the first time.. Yup, i’m thinking that if Shogun showed up in the same condition he was in for Liddell, Forrest/Shogun 2 would go more like people THOUGHT it would the first time..

]]> By: Bullylover http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/mauricio-shogun-rua-wants-a-rematch-with-forrest-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-69645 Bullylover Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:28:10 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13853#comment-69645 I guess we'll see if the old Rua really is back in his next fight. Still i'd love to see Rampage eventually get his revenge on Shogun one of these days. Maybe Shogun should face Jardine or Franklin next. I guess we’ll see if the old Rua really is back in his next fight. Still i’d love to see Rampage eventually get his revenge on Shogun one of these days. Maybe Shogun should face Jardine or Franklin next.

]]> By: Angry Mike http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/mauricio-shogun-rua-wants-a-rematch-with-forrest-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-69629 Angry Mike Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:56:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13853#comment-69629 Regardless of who's next in line for title shots, Griffin might be a tougher fight for Rua than Liddell. Liddell used punches almost exclusively, but Griffin will use plenty of leg kicks. You have to believe that he'll target Rua's rebuilt knee(s) to break Rua down, at least mentally. Regardless of who’s next in line for title shots, Griffin might be a tougher fight for Rua than Liddell. Liddell used punches almost exclusively, but Griffin will use plenty of leg kicks. You have to believe that he’ll target Rua’s rebuilt knee(s) to break Rua down, at least mentally.

]]> By: JJ Docker http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/mauricio-shogun-rua-wants-a-rematch-with-forrest-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-69617 JJ Docker Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:18:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13853#comment-69617 I completely agree with Handover Fist. Even more so; I don't think we can say that the old Shogun is back after 4 minutes 28 seconds against an aged and uncomfortable looking Chuck Liddell. I also see problems with a rematch with Forrest. Rampage is set to fight winner of Evans/Machida and, if he wins that fight, his first defense is likely to be against Griffin, should he get past Thiago Silva. In fact if Griffin gets past Thiago Silva I would expect him to face off against whoever is the champ after the two title fights. However, if he doesn't get past Silva, a Griffin/Shogun fight might make sense, at least rankings-wise; but Shogun would face a fairly long wait, possibly to UFC 104 or 105 - which to be honest, I also find unlikely. I completely agree with Handover Fist. Even more so; I don’t think we can say that the old Shogun is back after 4 minutes 28 seconds against an aged and uncomfortable looking Chuck Liddell.

I also see problems with a rematch with Forrest. Rampage is set to fight winner of Evans/Machida and, if he wins that fight, his first defense is likely to be against Griffin, should he get past Thiago Silva. In fact if Griffin gets past Thiago Silva I would expect him to face off against whoever is the champ after the two title fights. However, if he doesn’t get past Silva, a Griffin/Shogun fight might make sense, at least rankings-wise; but Shogun would face a fairly long wait, possibly to UFC 104 or 105 – which to be honest, I also find unlikely.

]]> By: Jak http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/mauricio-shogun-rua-wants-a-rematch-with-forrest-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-69613 Jak Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:53:29 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13853#comment-69613 Errgghh! Why do we need to see rematch's in the LHW division, there's so much talent to keep all the top fighters busy for a while. Krystof, Cane, Cantwell and Rua ALL looked very impressive... why waste 10-15 quality guys on doing rematch's... and even though i was rooting for Jackson, i really didn't need to see that rematch either. :) Errgghh! Why do we need to see rematch’s in the LHW division, there’s so much talent to keep all the top fighters busy for a while. Krystof, Cane, Cantwell and Rua ALL looked very impressive… why waste 10-15 quality guys on doing rematch’s… and even though i was rooting for Jackson, i really didn’t need to see that rematch either.

:)

]]> By: s00nertp http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/mauricio-shogun-rua-wants-a-rematch-with-forrest-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-69605 s00nertp Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:45:45 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13853#comment-69605 I too am still concerned about Shogun's conditioning. I'd LOVE to see Shogun fight anyone. Forrest is just as good as anyone else. I too am still concerned about Shogun’s conditioning.

I’d LOVE to see Shogun fight anyone. Forrest is just as good as anyone else.

]]> By: PlagueAngel http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/mauricio-shogun-rua-wants-a-rematch-with-forrest-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-69604 PlagueAngel Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:24:09 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13853#comment-69604 I said this before and I'll say it again, no more rematches if the title is not on the line. If one of them gets the title again(which probably won't happen anytime soon), let them have a rematch. Why would anyone want to see the same fight again with no gold on the line when there are great matchups to be had at 205. I said this before and I’ll say it again, no more rematches if the title is not on the line. If one of them gets the title again(which probably won’t happen anytime soon), let them have a rematch. Why would anyone want to see the same fight again with no gold on the line when there are great matchups to be had at 205.

]]> By: Handover Fist http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/mauricio-shogun-rua-wants-a-rematch-with-forrest-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-69601 Handover Fist Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:24:53 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13853#comment-69601 Not sure we can say Shogun's conditioning problem is in the rear view mirror after a 4 minute and 28 second fight. Not sure we can say Shogun’s conditioning problem is in the rear view mirror after a 4 minute and 28 second fight.

]]> By: Bullylover http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/mauricio-shogun-rua-wants-a-rematch-with-forrest-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-69596 Bullylover Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:42:17 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13853#comment-69596 yeah a rematch would be tight. I still see Griffin pulling off the win though. Either way it still make one hella of a fight.I'd really like to see the rematch between Rampage though. I think Rampage has what it takes to Knock Rua out. yeah a rematch would be tight. I still see Griffin pulling off the win though. Either way it still make one hella of a fight.I’d really like to see the rematch between Rampage though. I think Rampage has what it takes to Knock Rua out.

]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/04/20/mauricio-shogun-rua-wants-a-rematch-with-forrest-griffin/comment-page-1/#comment-69591 Jstew3785 Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:20:27 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=13853#comment-69591 In my opinion, Shogun would destroy Forrest Griffin if he shows up in the condition he did against Liddell. I am a big fan of both guys, but to me, Shogun is on a completely different level. I know Griffin beat him the first time, but it's kind of hard to be competitive with a torn ACL. Just my opinion, but I would love to see this rematch. In my opinion, Shogun would destroy Forrest Griffin if he shows up in the condition he did against Liddell. I am a big fan of both guys, but to me, Shogun is on a completely different level. I know Griffin beat him the first time, but it’s kind of hard to be competitive with a torn ACL. Just my opinion, but I would love to see this rematch.

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