Comments on: Pat Miletich: ‘Dana has never told me anything that ended up being the truth’

By: MMA-LOGIC

MMA-LOGIC — Fri, 15 May 2009 10:21:58 +0000

The UFC and Dana will go down one day with this attitude and they will receive as little mercy as they have shown. Swings and round-abouts Dana, what goes around comes around etc.

By: Stan

Stan — Thu, 14 May 2009 21:21:57 +0000

Strikeforce has always been very clear they’re happy with UFC’s table scraps. They have, since acquiring the carcass of EliteXC, stepped up their game a great deal to the point UFC has made rumblings about counter programming them. Affliction from day 1 was trying to create an adversarial relation to the UFC, overpaying the fighters and then claiming to be the savior of MMA since the UFC wasn’t paying Tim Sylvia $500,000 per fight (is that $25,000 per second?) and they were. Coker is thrifty. He’s not going to drive up prices of high-end talent, which is the real threat to the UFC’s bottom line.

I don’t think anyone blames Dana for going after EliteXC the way he did, they were obviously doing harm to the future growth of MMA by trying to build Kimbo Slice into the most recognizable star in the sport. The IFL was accused of stealing marketing research and trade secrets. The UFC filed the lawsuit first, the countersuit was based on the kinds of claims from this article, that the UFC was using their market position to bully out the weaker companies.

By: Cathedron

Cathedron — Thu, 14 May 2009 20:30:39 +0000

Pat’s the man and a local hero. Everyone around here respects him, but I guarantee his “discussions” with Dana White were pretty damn heated from both sides. He’s every bit as passionate (and often, just as myopic) when it comes to the sport. The UFC goes totally evil on any competition that does anything Dana finds insulting, yet they’ve had nothing but good things to say about Strikeforce and even had Cung Le on the last UFC. Funny that no one talked about that at all. If the UFC is actually out to sabotage everyone else, why be so nice to Strikeforce who is obviously poised to be far bigger than the IFL or even EXC? (My theory is that they will be buying them out in the next couple years and will want Coker to work for them.) All I’m saying (since I know a good portion of you meatheads see the world in stark shades of black and white) is that the IFL wasn’t exactly the clean, honest, pure MMA org that so many have tried to paint it to be and they did some underhanded things of their own which was part of the reason the UFC had it out for them.

By: hindsightufuk

hindsightufuk — Thu, 14 May 2009 17:48:27 +0000

i remember pat miletichs comments after losing to matt linland, said he had been forced to go up a weight class (left the ufc shortly after). im guessing that may have been the start of some of this

By: Angry Mike

Angry Mike — Thu, 14 May 2009 16:12:53 +0000

The excerpt in the post was clearly taken from a sworn statement filed in a court action. I don’t really know the subject matter except from the text of the article. Like any statement, it’s difficult to understand it completely without proper context–who filed it, and for what purpose? Probably it was filed in support of a motion in which one of the parties was asking the judge for some kind of order or relief. We don’t know what, or what happened.

Furthermore, not everything that’s in such a statement is relevant or even admissible in a court of law. For example, second hand statements from Ken Shamrock about his conversations with others including White wouldn’t be considered. The final paragraph–Miletich’s opinion about White’s reason for filing a lawsuit–is pure speculation and wouldn’t be considered, either.

So what was the 2006 lawsuit about, and how did it turn out? Did IFL win, or did UFC? Was it settled and dismissed? Does anybody know the terms of the settlement, or was if confidential? Lots of unanswered questions here.

By: RoadsideGraphix

RoadsideGraphix — Thu, 14 May 2009 16:07:40 +0000

In business there are 2 schools of thought….
1) work with your competition to make the industry better.
2) crush the competition and be the only one in the industry.

If you are at the top of the pyramid you can pick who you work with and who you crush.
Dana is the big dog, like it or not. He is the face of MMA in America.
ask Paris Hilton… BAD PRESS is better then NO PRESS

By: ace328

ace328 — Thu, 14 May 2009 13:28:12 +0000

The fact is that the IFL got sued for their business practices. It’s not a surprise Dana went after the them. Dana doesn’t have a problem with fighters, agents, and trainers making money and getting rich. It’s when their endeavors get in the way of Dana that he makes them pay. So maybe when he says not to do something, they should listen lol.

You build successful companies buy outperforming or eliminating your completion. As much competition as he has smashed we still have Strikeforce, Dream, and WVR as major promotions so he’ll never have all the MMA. He might have to tone down his public image a bit but this is a non-traditional sport in a new age so he might be able to be successful even though he doesn’t act like the NFL or NBA commissioner.

Nice cleavage!

By: Dr.Stoppage

Dr.Stoppage — Thu, 14 May 2009 07:44:02 +0000

Okay…so Pat don’t like Dana…but does this mean we won’t be seeing Matt vs Matt on the 23rd?

And by the way…how about that rack on the chick in the Combat-Clothing ad on this site.
And is that a nightstick she’s clutching?

Hubba Hubba !.

By: notdanawhite

notdanawhite — Thu, 14 May 2009 01:08:59 +0000

Pat is totally the man….much respect to him.

But……. Dana just doin business how big business gets done. nothing new, standard operating procedure. he bought a busted company for 2MM and now it’s worth 1.5 billion and poised for growth.

the IFC was based on teams. teams no casual fan would have heard of if the UFC did not include the team name in fighter intros at thier events. dana and the ufc made all the hot mma camps famous. and thats a fact. and that why dana doesn’t like em. and thats why camp affiliation is no longer included in ufc fighter info during events. those camps are riding on the ufc’s coattails. without the ufc, no casual fan would ever have heard of them.

Pat M is an MMA God, but he has only limited abilities as a big-time manager/agent. Can’t be great at everything.

By: Cory Brady

Cory Brady — Thu, 14 May 2009 00:40:03 +0000

I’ll tell you what Rich, if there is any super secret WAMMA plot against Dana White, I sure haven’t been made aware of it.

I actually really like Dana White, and always have to be completely honest. The news is the news, and any bashing going on in the article is definitely not coming from my end. There is not one point where I say anything negative about the man that I have a great deal of respect for.

Sadly, your conspiracy theory is nothing more than that, a conspiracy theory. Especially if you take into account that the bulk of what I report on has always been the UFC and I have never had a single bad thing to say abut the organization.

By: Rich B

Rich B — Thu, 14 May 2009 00:00:17 +0000

Imagine this. A one-sided post bashing Dana White on the website owned by the big kahuna at WAMMA.

This message will self-destruct in 5 seconds…

By: mattio

mattio — Wed, 13 May 2009 23:46:43 +0000

One thing Dana told him that was the truth was that he would never work with the UFC ever again if he signed on with the IFL. And we haven’t seen him since.

He says he signed with the IFL to give his fighters’ opportunities, but all he did was effectively blackball them from the largest MMA org on the planet. This was a move Pat made for Pat, and to stick it to Dana, and now he wants to make it seem like he only had the thoughts of his fighters’ in mind now that the IFL has crashed and burned.

No surprise he has a bitter tale to tell. To use signing on with the IFL as leverage against dealing with the UFC was really stupid in hindsight.

By: Stan

Stan — Wed, 13 May 2009 21:32:05 +0000

“Sooner of later the Fertitas are going to have to realize that Dana is hurting their business more than he is helping it…”

The plan to crush the IFL certainly seems to have worked out rather well.

Cory was right the other day in the Dana wont fight Atencio article, saying that its being ruthless bastards that kept the UFC alive and flourish in this economy: “One would have to be a downright cut-throat blood-thirsty tycoon to the job done in this day and age.” And Miletich’s testimony hints at Keith Evans going from the UFC to IFL as part of the big issue, but fails to mention the bigger problem was that he stole marketing documents for his new employer on his way out. Perhaps the cutthroat nature of MMA business isn’t just limited to the UFC.

By: TheLevi75

TheLevi75 — Wed, 13 May 2009 21:25:50 +0000

all that Dana is doing is solidifyiny the suppremecy of theUFC.that is what the Ferrtitas pay him for.the IFL was a joke anyways,especially when they tried a supposedly innovative fighting surface.yea I’m talking about the 6 sided ring that they stole from TNA wrestling.
the UFC is the best , all the rest are beer leagues.

By: jj

jj — Wed, 13 May 2009 19:51:14 +0000

Another nail in the coffin. Sooner of later the Fertitas are going to have to realize that Dana is hurting their business more than he is helping it and hire someone with not only personal and personnel skills but someone with proper business training.

Sure Dana has a vision, but as E:60 just asked, does he actually have the skills necessary to achieve that vision?

By: Dayzah

Dayzah — Wed, 13 May 2009 18:51:58 +0000

Pat is the man! Dana is a turd.