Comments on: The Dragon and The Last Emperor http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/05/24/the-dragon-and-the-last-emperor/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 22:51:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: s00nertp http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/05/24/the-dragon-and-the-last-emperor/comment-page-1/#comment-70775 s00nertp Sun, 31 May 2009 06:12:26 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14473#comment-70775 wow, nicely written "MMA-LOGIC" wow, nicely written “MMA-LOGIC”

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]]> By: s00nertp http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/05/24/the-dragon-and-the-last-emperor/comment-page-1/#comment-70774 s00nertp Sun, 31 May 2009 06:06:58 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14473#comment-70774 Great article, this is why I love 5oz. Obviously it is too early to tell whether the Machida excitement is hype or truely the dawn of a new era. That said, putting these two together is right on the money, if not just for their personalties. When I introduce MMA to someone, I ALWAYS break out Fedor videos: Arlovski, Sylvia, Mark Hunt, and obviously Randleman & Fujita By the time we are done, jaws are dropped, cheers heard and respect is piled up for Fedor's calm and incredibly honorable personality. What other MMA legend has met & had their matches watched live by the president of their country, run with the olympic torch, and been given countless accolades? Ambassador of the sport indeed. Great article, this is why I love 5oz.

Obviously it is too early to tell whether the Machida excitement is hype or truely the dawn of a new era. That said, putting these two together is right on the money, if not just for their personalties.

When I introduce MMA to someone, I ALWAYS break out Fedor videos:
Arlovski, Sylvia, Mark Hunt, and obviously Randleman & Fujita

By the time we are done, jaws are dropped, cheers heard and respect is piled up for Fedor’s calm and incredibly honorable personality. What other MMA legend has met & had their matches watched live by the president of their country, run with the olympic torch, and been given countless accolades?

Ambassador of the sport indeed.

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]]> By: MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/05/24/the-dragon-and-the-last-emperor/comment-page-1/#comment-70773 MMA-LOGIC Sun, 31 May 2009 06:02:47 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14473#comment-70773 Levi WTF! Yeah the main difference is that Fedor has fought UFC HW champs: Coleman x2 Sylvia Arlovski Nog x3 And Pride champs: Nog x3 Coleman x2 Crocop Herring And K1 champs: Hunt Schilt And top 10 fighters: Lindland Babalu Kohsaka Randleman Arona He KOed Sylvia and Arlovski (both stand up fighters) within 2min of the first rd. 23 of his 30 victories have come by stoppage. Lyoto Machida has faced 4 champs and 2 were in LOWER WEIGHT CLASSES THAN HE IS IN! 1 was a LW called BJ Penn and that went to a decision just like 8 of his 15 victories aout 60% of his wins including his win over Tito Ortiz! and if you look at the fighters Machida has fought I'm not sure at least 5 or 6 of them would even last a rd with Hong Man Choi. Babalu was a HW at the time too. Nog has only been stopped once ever. List the 12-15 cans please. Nobody in the sports history has faced and beaten as many highly decorated fighters as Fedor Emelianenko. Think a little, all the things you just said about Fedor Emelianenko apply more so to Machida. Have you even seen the Nog fights? he completely destroyed him. He beat Crocop on the feet and Nog on the ground. Levi WTF!
Yeah the main difference is that Fedor has fought UFC HW champs:
Coleman x2
Sylvia
Arlovski
Nog x3
And Pride champs:
Nog x3
Coleman x2
Crocop
Herring
And K1 champs:
Hunt
Schilt
And top 10 fighters:
Lindland
Babalu
Kohsaka
Randleman
Arona
He KOed Sylvia and Arlovski (both stand up fighters) within 2min of the first rd. 23 of his 30 victories have come by stoppage.
Lyoto Machida has faced 4 champs and 2 were in LOWER WEIGHT CLASSES THAN HE IS IN! 1 was a LW called BJ Penn and that went to a decision just like 8 of his 15 victories aout 60% of his wins including his win over Tito Ortiz! and if you look at the fighters Machida has fought I’m not sure at least 5 or 6 of them would even last a rd with Hong Man Choi. Babalu was a HW at the time too. Nog has only been stopped once ever.
List the 12-15 cans please. Nobody in the sports history has faced and beaten as many highly decorated fighters as Fedor Emelianenko.
Think a little, all the things you just said about Fedor Emelianenko apply more so to Machida. Have you even seen the Nog fights? he completely destroyed him. He beat Crocop on the feet and Nog on the ground.

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]]> By: TheLevi75 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/05/24/the-dragon-and-the-last-emperor/comment-page-1/#comment-70623 TheLevi75 Mon, 25 May 2009 19:43:22 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14473#comment-70623 the main difference between these two fighters is machida hasn't fooght 12-15 cans like fedor.I know that fedor has destroyed the cans that he has faced,but when he fought the best in PrideFC,(BigNog - CroCop) he won by decision.and then there is all the fights he had against guys that weren't even Hwts(BabaLu - Arona also decisions)and the Law Matt Linland is a Mwt. i also think that beaten up giant s with little to no skill (HongManChoi - ZuluZino) is not worth bragging about. but all in all thay are both great fighters. BTW coaching opposite Machida should give Rampage a good look at his style, if he is in fact the next coach. the main difference between these two fighters is machida hasn’t fooght 12-15 cans like fedor.I know that fedor has destroyed the cans that he has faced,but when he fought the best in PrideFC,(BigNog – CroCop) he won by decision.and then there is all the fights he had against guys that weren’t even Hwts(BabaLu – Arona also decisions)and the Law Matt Linland is a Mwt. i also think that beaten up giant s with little to no skill (HongManChoi – ZuluZino) is not worth bragging about.
but all in all thay are both great fighters.
BTW coaching opposite Machida should give Rampage a good look at his style, if he is in fact the next coach.

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]]> By: KTru http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/05/24/the-dragon-and-the-last-emperor/comment-page-1/#comment-70610 KTru Mon, 25 May 2009 14:50:11 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14473#comment-70610 Time and time again this has to be said, Silva and Machida are training partners, very close friends, and stated numerous times they will not fight each other. As Machida's legendary status continues to grow, we will see the clamoring for those two to fight more,and talked about even more. But the match for surely will never come to fruition. So talk about it all you want, beg DW and Joe Silva, it will never happen. As for Fedor, he has been losing in many fights, but he never was in any immediate danger. Time and time again this has to be said,

Silva and Machida are training partners, very close friends, and stated numerous times they will not fight each other.

As Machida’s legendary status continues to grow, we will see the clamoring for those two to fight more,and talked about even more. But the match for surely will never come to fruition. So talk about it all you want, beg DW and Joe Silva, it will never happen.

As for Fedor, he has been losing in many fights, but he never was in any immediate danger.

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]]> By: Screenplaya http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/05/24/the-dragon-and-the-last-emperor/comment-page-1/#comment-70607 Screenplaya Mon, 25 May 2009 14:27:01 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14473#comment-70607 I think we need to see Machida versus Anderson Silva. Let Rashad coach and fight against Rampage. Machida/Silva could be touted as the battle to see who is the baddest man on the planet, and Evans/Rampage would sell itself. Dana and Joe, please make these things happen! Thanks. I think we need to see Machida versus Anderson Silva. Let Rashad coach and fight against Rampage. Machida/Silva could be touted as the battle to see who is the baddest man on the planet, and Evans/Rampage would sell itself.

Dana and Joe, please make these things happen!

Thanks.

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]]> By: neijia http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/05/24/the-dragon-and-the-last-emperor/comment-page-1/#comment-70605 neijia Mon, 25 May 2009 13:53:49 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14473#comment-70605 Perhaps. It's really the mental presence that seems similar to me although Machida hasn't exactly been put in any rough spots like the Randleman slam. Fedor always pulls a rabbit out of a hat. I thought he was clearly losing to Arlovski until bam. Machida seems technically superior p4p in striking and clinch. On the other hand, Fedor is the greatest at sambo and Machida's bjj hasn't been shown much in mma. He did beat Rafael Lovato, Jr. in grappling. Perhaps. It’s really the mental presence that seems similar to me although Machida hasn’t exactly been put in any rough spots like the Randleman slam. Fedor always pulls a rabbit out of a hat. I thought he was clearly losing to Arlovski until bam. Machida seems technically superior p4p in striking and clinch. On the other hand, Fedor is the greatest at sambo and Machida’s bjj hasn’t been shown much in mma. He did beat Rafael Lovato, Jr. in grappling.

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]]> By: Orwell http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/05/24/the-dragon-and-the-last-emperor/comment-page-1/#comment-70604 Orwell Mon, 25 May 2009 05:21:08 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14473#comment-70604 Its a little early to start making comparisons between Fedor and Lyoto. He has an impressive record but there are still a few fighters to prove himself against before he becomes a bonafide phenom. Luckily they're all in the UFC so he'll get a chance. He's an awesome fighter though and great for traditional martial arts. Its a little early to start making comparisons between Fedor and Lyoto. He has an impressive record but there are still a few fighters to prove himself against before he becomes a bonafide phenom. Luckily they’re all in the UFC so he’ll get a chance. He’s an awesome fighter though and great for traditional martial arts.

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]]> By: neijia http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/05/24/the-dragon-and-the-last-emperor/comment-page-1/#comment-70603 neijia Mon, 25 May 2009 03:10:50 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14473#comment-70603 No one in mma is mentally better than Fedor. When he looks like he may be in trouble, like against Randleman and Arlovski, it's like Tiger Woods coming out of the woods. Comes right back and just wins. Machida is a little of the technical wizardry of Anderson Silva (and now with some agressiveness in his style, looks a little more like the devastating Anderson whereas Anderson is looking more like the elusive Machida lately) and the Zen calmness of Fedor. Really fits the movie stereotype of the "martial arts master". The nickname "The Dragon" suits him. Long live the Machida Era. It's a triumph of traditional martial arts as well as mma (karate + sumo + bjj, all at the highest possible level). No one in mma is mentally better than Fedor. When he looks like he may be in trouble, like against Randleman and Arlovski, it’s like Tiger Woods coming out of the woods. Comes right back and just wins.

Machida is a little of the technical wizardry of Anderson Silva (and now with some agressiveness in his style, looks a little more like the devastating Anderson whereas Anderson is looking more like the elusive Machida lately) and the Zen calmness of Fedor. Really fits the movie stereotype of the “martial arts master”. The nickname “The Dragon” suits him. Long live the Machida Era. It’s a triumph of traditional martial arts as well as mma (karate + sumo + bjj, all at the highest possible level).

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