Comments on: Former NFL Players to Join Kimbo Slice on “TUF 10” Cast http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/03/former-nfl-players-to-join-kimbo-slice-on-%e2%80%9ctuf-10%e2%80%9d-cast/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Sat, 26 May 2012 22:51:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/03/former-nfl-players-to-join-kimbo-slice-on-%e2%80%9ctuf-10%e2%80%9d-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-70981 MMA-LOGIC Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:28:30 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14678#comment-70981 This is where Kimbo belongs. I hope he does well but a main event he is not...yet. Although this show seems to be heading more and more towards "non-reality TV" as long as only those that deserve to fight in the UFC make it, I wont have any complaints. P.S. Imagine if Kimbo loses his first fight. I bet they will find a way to bring him back in. This is where Kimbo belongs. I hope he does well but a main event he is not…yet. Although this show seems to be heading more and more towards “non-reality TV” as long as only those that deserve to fight in the UFC make it, I wont have any complaints.

P.S. Imagine if Kimbo loses his first fight. I bet they will find a way to bring him back in.

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]]> By: cere http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/03/former-nfl-players-to-join-kimbo-slice-on-%e2%80%9ctuf-10%e2%80%9d-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-70942 cere Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:26:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14678#comment-70942 You are right. Must have been a typo in the release from Spike or in transmission. You are right. Must have been a typo in the release from Spike or in transmission.

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]]> By: Stan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/03/former-nfl-players-to-join-kimbo-slice-on-%e2%80%9ctuf-10%e2%80%9d-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-70940 Stan Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:44:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14678#comment-70940 The press release at ufc.com lists it like this: "This season the series will be casting mixed martial artists in the Middleweight (185 lbs), Light Heavyweight (205 lbs), and Heavyweights (265 lbs) divisions." Don't worry, they wont be asking 300lb guys to cut 75lbs. The press release at ufc.com lists it like this:

“This season the series will be casting mixed martial artists in the Middleweight (185 lbs), Light Heavyweight (205 lbs), and Heavyweights (265 lbs) divisions.”

Don’t worry, they wont be asking 300lb guys to cut 75lbs.

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]]> By: cere http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/03/former-nfl-players-to-join-kimbo-slice-on-%e2%80%9ctuf-10%e2%80%9d-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-70936 cere Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:16:12 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14678#comment-70936 The confusion, if 225 is the min, was caused by the press release. The wording was: "The UFC and Spike TV will hold an open casting call at The Marriott Seattle Airport Hotel in Seattle, WA for Season 10 of the wildly popular series, “The Ultimate Fighter.” This season the series will be casting mixed martial artists in the Middleweight (185 lbs), Light Heavyweight (205 lbs), and Heavyweights (225 lbs) divisions." So, you can see, for the other weight classes they accepted tryouts for, the max weights were mentioned. For the HW division, they said only 225, not if this was min or max. If it is the max, I just don't see the point. As has been said, this just creates far to many problems. Can fighters that walk around at 265+ be expected to make 225? Would anyone that could hang at 225 be willing to stay there once they made it into the UFC or would they immediately cut to LHW, as Rashad did? If they did stay at HW once they made it into the UFC, they would be amongst the smaller fighters in the division. Couture is a small HW, but makes up for it in skill, planning and experience. These guys would just be massively handicapped in the HW division, just by their smaller size. It just doesn't make sense. If it was meant as a min, that makes a bit more sense, but then why have a minimum, other than 205? And why not qualify the 225lbs with a note that it is the minimum, since the other weights mentioned are maximums? I am hoping it was a typo and they meant 265 and then all the confusion and questions are irrelevant. The confusion, if 225 is the min, was caused by the press release. The wording was:

“The UFC and Spike TV will hold an open casting call at The Marriott Seattle Airport Hotel in Seattle, WA for Season 10 of the wildly popular series, “The Ultimate Fighter.” This season the series will be casting mixed martial artists in the Middleweight (185 lbs), Light Heavyweight (205 lbs), and Heavyweights (225 lbs) divisions.”

So, you can see, for the other weight classes they accepted tryouts for, the max weights were mentioned. For the HW division, they said only 225, not if this was min or max.

If it is the max, I just don’t see the point. As has been said, this just creates far to many problems. Can fighters that walk around at 265+ be expected to make 225? Would anyone that could hang at 225 be willing to stay there once they made it into the UFC or would they immediately cut to LHW, as Rashad did? If they did stay at HW once they made it into the UFC, they would be amongst the smaller fighters in the division. Couture is a small HW, but makes up for it in skill, planning and experience. These guys would just be massively handicapped in the HW division, just by their smaller size. It just doesn’t make sense.

If it was meant as a min, that makes a bit more sense, but then why have a minimum, other than 205? And why not qualify the 225lbs with a note that it is the minimum, since the other weights mentioned are maximums?

I am hoping it was a typo and they meant 265 and then all the confusion and questions are irrelevant.

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]]> By: Stan http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/03/former-nfl-players-to-join-kimbo-slice-on-%e2%80%9ctuf-10%e2%80%9d-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-70933 Stan Thu, 04 Jun 2009 13:19:48 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14678#comment-70933 225 would have to be a minimum. 265 is the max for heavyweight... bigger guys like Lesner and Carwin regularly cut down from 280-290 to that. Rex Richards, if he had made it, would have had a real tough time hitting 265. He lost his last fight after making the cut from 325 or something absurd and he just had nothing in the gas tank. He tore up his knee as well, which is why he's not on the show. Shivers was that big when he was in the NFL and has been fighting at 290. He's a pretty lean 290 though at 6'7, so it'll be interesting to see if he can cut 25lbs to hit 265. Mitrione played at 300lbs, but I haven't seen anything about what he weighs now. Since the TUF fights before the finale are all exhibitions, they could fight them at catchweights since the guys really do not have time to do serious weight cutting with such short notice before fights. Regardless, none of these guys could make 225. It's a bit strange that so many mma sites have spread confusion about the 225 cutoff being a maximum. 225 would have to be a minimum. 265 is the max for heavyweight… bigger guys like Lesner and Carwin regularly cut down from 280-290 to that.

Rex Richards, if he had made it, would have had a real tough time hitting 265. He lost his last fight after making the cut from 325 or something absurd and he just had nothing in the gas tank. He tore up his knee as well, which is why he’s not on the show. Shivers was that big when he was in the NFL and has been fighting at 290. He’s a pretty lean 290 though at 6’7, so it’ll be interesting to see if he can cut 25lbs to hit 265. Mitrione played at 300lbs, but I haven’t seen anything about what he weighs now.

Since the TUF fights before the finale are all exhibitions, they could fight them at catchweights since the guys really do not have time to do serious weight cutting with such short notice before fights. Regardless, none of these guys could make 225. It’s a bit strange that so many mma sites have spread confusion about the 225 cutoff being a maximum.

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]]> By: cere http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/03/former-nfl-players-to-join-kimbo-slice-on-%e2%80%9ctuf-10%e2%80%9d-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-70932 cere Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:27:41 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14678#comment-70932 Back in March, I read that the Spike TV presse release for TUF 10 said that the heavy weight contestants would have a 225Lbs limit. Is this still the case? Some of these guys, especially the former NFL guys, seems like they would have problems getting down to 225. And for those that are naturally closer to 225, they would leave TUF and go into the UFC among the smaller heavyweights. Has anyone heard differently? Is the 225 cap still in place? Any chance they meant 225 as the minimum? Back in March, I read that the Spike TV presse release for TUF 10 said that the heavy weight contestants would have a 225Lbs limit. Is this still the case? Some of these guys, especially the former NFL guys, seems like they would have problems getting down to 225. And for those that are naturally closer to 225, they would leave TUF and go into the UFC among the smaller heavyweights. Has anyone heard differently? Is the 225 cap still in place? Any chance they meant 225 as the minimum?

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]]> By: MMASwami http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/03/former-nfl-players-to-join-kimbo-slice-on-%e2%80%9ctuf-10%e2%80%9d-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-70891 MMASwami Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:59:07 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14678#comment-70891 TUF is a reality show first and MMA is secondary to the people that control it. TUF is a reality show first and MMA is secondary to the people that control it.

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]]> By: cere http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/03/former-nfl-players-to-join-kimbo-slice-on-%e2%80%9ctuf-10%e2%80%9d-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-70882 cere Wed, 03 Jun 2009 13:03:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14678#comment-70882 That's exactly what this season is, a PR stunt. But then, with the way TUF ratings have been falling, perhaps that is what they needed to do. TUF itself is a PR gimmick and used to be very successful. That’s exactly what this season is, a PR stunt. But then, with the way TUF ratings have been falling, perhaps that is what they needed to do. TUF itself is a PR gimmick and used to be very successful.

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]]> By: JJ Docker http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/03/former-nfl-players-to-join-kimbo-slice-on-%e2%80%9ctuf-10%e2%80%9d-cast/comment-page-1/#comment-70877 JJ Docker Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:54:52 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14678#comment-70877 This season sounds more like a publicity stunt than a method of bringing talented fighters into the UFC This season sounds more like a publicity stunt than a method of bringing talented fighters into the UFC

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