Comments on: Top 5 In The world… That’s Mr. Rogers Neighborhood http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/08/top-5-in-the-world%e2%80%a6-that%e2%80%99s-mr-roger%e2%80%99s-neighborhood/ Your Destination for Insider MMA News and Opinion Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Rich S. http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/08/top-5-in-the-world%e2%80%a6-that%e2%80%99s-mr-roger%e2%80%99s-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-71428 Rich S. Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:50:51 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14746#comment-71428 I think we might be moving a little fast here with Mr. Rogers.. Hell, I still have Arlovski over Rogers.. Yes, Rogers beat him.. But honestly, I've yet to be impressed by Rogers.. The guy's striking is just sloppy.. For the past 2 years, I've just been waiting for him to get a fight with a technical, powerful boxer.. Just one fight with a world class striker and he's going to have his first loss.. Now, Arlovski was supposed to be that person, unfortunately his chin is completely NONEXISTENT.. PS: I will admit though, those knees against Abongo were sick! I think we might be moving a little fast here with Mr. Rogers..

Hell, I still have Arlovski over Rogers..

Yes, Rogers beat him.. But honestly, I’ve yet to be impressed by Rogers..

The guy’s striking is just sloppy.. For the past 2 years, I’ve just been waiting for him to get a fight with a technical, powerful boxer..
Just one fight with a world class striker and he’s going to have his first loss..

Now, Arlovski was supposed to be that person, unfortunately his chin is completely NONEXISTENT..

PS: I will admit though, those knees against Abongo were sick!

]]> By: edub http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/08/top-5-in-the-world%e2%80%a6-that%e2%80%99s-mr-roger%e2%80%99s-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-71423 edub Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:55:05 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14746#comment-71423 If I still gambled Id put my house on Overeem submitting Rogers. If I still gambled Id put my house on Overeem submitting Rogers.

]]> By: Sergio Hernandez http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/08/top-5-in-the-world%e2%80%a6-that%e2%80%99s-mr-roger%e2%80%99s-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-71420 Sergio Hernandez Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:30:39 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14746#comment-71420 Rogers cracks the Top 10 with his win over Arlovski, that much can't be denied. To say he's #3 in the world right now makes me laugh and wonder why 5Oz would allow much a biased, one-sided column based solely in nepotism on their website. Mr. Reilly, you can be as proud as you want of Rogers. He deserves it. But please don't insult the fans' intelligence with this nonsense. The best thing to come of all this is that hopefully now Rogers can train full-time and not have to worry about providing for his family. Now we will REALLY see if Rogers has what it takes to be a top 3 heavyweight. Rogers cracks the Top 10 with his win over Arlovski, that much can’t be denied.

To say he’s #3 in the world right now makes me laugh and wonder why 5Oz would allow much a biased, one-sided column based solely in nepotism on their website.

Mr. Reilly, you can be as proud as you want of Rogers. He deserves it. But please don’t insult the fans’ intelligence with this nonsense.

The best thing to come of all this is that hopefully now Rogers can train full-time and not have to worry about providing for his family. Now we will REALLY see if Rogers has what it takes to be a top 3 heavyweight.

]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/08/top-5-in-the-world%e2%80%a6-that%e2%80%99s-mr-roger%e2%80%99s-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-71096 Jstew3785 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:28:37 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14746#comment-71096 I don't think I could possibly have put it better myself. JJ Docker is right on the money. I don’t think I could possibly have put it better myself. JJ Docker is right on the money.

]]> By: JJ Docker http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/08/top-5-in-the-world%e2%80%a6-that%e2%80%99s-mr-roger%e2%80%99s-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-71095 JJ Docker Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:51:16 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14746#comment-71095 I've been waiting for days to comment on this, but the comment box hasn't been available (probably for the writers protection). This is the most lopsided article I've ever read on this site and it appalls me. Mike Reilly, the coach and training partner of Brett Rogers, writes an article on how Brett Rogers is ranked THIRD in the world at HW. Please. This is sensationalistic bullshit at its finest. Poorly written and so biased it makes me feel sick. "I have heard the haters and they all have one thing in common – they really do not understand the sport very well." Haha, what? I don't hate Brett Rogers, but any fool knows he isn't ranked third in the world. I am really finding it difficult to work out how you reached that conclusion. You cite James Thompson, an absolute joke of a fighter who once got KO'd by Butterbean in an MMA fight. You cite Humphrey, who is equally poor (actually look at his record and see who his 5 wins are against) and who Rogers outweighed, outreached and outpowered and it still took him two very fucking sloppy rounds to finish him - and at the end of the first he was gassed which says it all about his current level of ability and preparation, quite frankly. Yes he beat Arlovski, I know you will retort, but come on of all the top 10 HW's it was a match up made in heaven for Rogers. Someone with a weak jaw that was going to stand and bang with him; now I thought Arlovski would win that fight, but also knew Rogers had a good chance of knocking him out. To put this in even more perspective are you seriously saying that you think this puts him third in the world? Above Frank Mir, Brock Lesnar, Cro Cop, Big Nog, Randy Couture etc etc etfuckingcetera? I find that laughable. Rogers has never been to the mat for a prolonged period of time in his career, and yet he would beat Couture, Nog and Mir? Is he a more complete fighter? A better prepard fighter? A more experienced fighter? OK you could argue he would tag his opponents before they got him to the mat or knocked him out. But, for example, Brock Lesnar, do you seriously imagine Rogers having the speed, technique or athleticism to stop Lesnar from taking him down? Another example, Mir, do you not imagine that Mir would have enough on the feet to avoid the early barrage get out of the first round and submit a gassed Rogers in the second? Please. I'm going to stop ranting now, but I'm sorry, I find this article ridiculous and way off the mark. Not only that, but when I read you work from the same gym as Rogers it made a lot of sense why you would purport such ridiculous statements, and, well, it pissed me off that this site is allowing you to do it. I don't usually care for personal responses to any comments I make but this time I'm asking you, nicely, if you would please answer this comment and attempt to justify how you have reached the conclusion that Rogers is better than a LOT of HW's that have been in the sport a LOT longer than he has, beaten MUCH better guys than he has and actually held (sometimes multiple) TITLES. I’ve been waiting for days to comment on this, but the comment box hasn’t been available (probably for the writers protection). This is the most lopsided article I’ve ever read on this site and it appalls me. Mike Reilly, the coach and training partner of Brett Rogers, writes an article on how Brett Rogers is ranked THIRD in the world at HW. Please. This is sensationalistic bullshit at its finest. Poorly written and so biased it makes me feel sick.
“I have heard the haters and they all have one thing in common – they really do not understand the sport very well.” Haha, what? I don’t hate Brett Rogers, but any fool knows he isn’t ranked third in the world. I am really finding it difficult to work out how you reached that conclusion. You cite James Thompson, an absolute joke of a fighter who once got KO’d by Butterbean in an MMA fight. You cite Humphrey, who is equally poor (actually look at his record and see who his 5 wins are against) and who Rogers outweighed, outreached and outpowered and it still took him two very fucking sloppy rounds to finish him – and at the end of the first he was gassed which says it all about his current level of ability and preparation, quite frankly. Yes he beat Arlovski, I know you will retort, but come on of all the top 10 HW’s it was a match up made in heaven for Rogers. Someone with a weak jaw that was going to stand and bang with him; now I thought Arlovski would win that fight, but also knew Rogers had a good chance of knocking him out. To put this in even more perspective are you seriously saying that you think this puts him third in the world? Above Frank Mir, Brock Lesnar, Cro Cop, Big Nog, Randy Couture etc etc etfuckingcetera? I find that laughable. Rogers has never been to the mat for a prolonged period of time in his career, and yet he would beat Couture, Nog and Mir? Is he a more complete fighter? A better prepard fighter? A more experienced fighter? OK you could argue he would tag his opponents before they got him to the mat or knocked him out. But, for example, Brock Lesnar, do you seriously imagine Rogers having the speed, technique or athleticism to stop Lesnar from taking him down? Another example, Mir, do you not imagine that Mir would have enough on the feet to avoid the early barrage get out of the first round and submit a gassed Rogers in the second? Please. I’m going to stop ranting now, but I’m sorry, I find this article ridiculous and way off the mark. Not only that, but when I read you work from the same gym as Rogers it made a lot of sense why you would purport such ridiculous statements, and, well, it pissed me off that this site is allowing you to do it. I don’t usually care for personal responses to any comments I make but this time I’m asking you, nicely, if you would please answer this comment and attempt to justify how you have reached the conclusion that Rogers is better than a LOT of HW’s that have been in the sport a LOT longer than he has, beaten MUCH better guys than he has and actually held (sometimes multiple) TITLES.

]]> By: Jstew3785 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/08/top-5-in-the-world%e2%80%a6-that%e2%80%99s-mr-roger%e2%80%99s-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-71093 Jstew3785 Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:18:32 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14746#comment-71093 Brett Rogers the #3 heavyweight in the world??? You must be joking. If holding a belt is so important to rankings, why would Alistair Overeem not be ranked ahead of Rogers? I mean, he is the Strikeforce HW champ. Brett Rogers the #3 heavyweight in the world??? You must be joking. If holding a belt is so important to rankings, why would Alistair Overeem not be ranked ahead of Rogers? I mean, he is the Strikeforce HW champ.

]]> By: MMA-LOGIC http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2009/06/08/top-5-in-the-world%e2%80%a6-that%e2%80%99s-mr-roger%e2%80%99s-neighborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-71088 MMA-LOGIC Sat, 13 Jun 2009 05:36:33 +0000 http://fiveouncesofpain.com/?p=14746#comment-71088 "anyone holding the UFC belt deserves top 5." Wrong. A UFC belt doesn't mean you earned it anymore. Lesnar and Couture are proof of that. Lesnar in the UFC HW = 2-1, Couture in UFC HW since 2002 = about 2-3. Those are the last 2 champs and I would argue that they have 2 of the weakest records in recent times of any of the top UFC HW fighters. Having said that Lesnar is a massive dude and may prove to be the best ever. “anyone holding the UFC belt deserves top 5.”
Wrong. A UFC belt doesn’t mean you earned it anymore. Lesnar and Couture are proof of that. Lesnar in the UFC HW = 2-1, Couture in UFC HW since 2002 = about 2-3. Those are the last 2 champs and I would argue that they have 2 of the weakest records in recent times of any of the top UFC HW fighters.
Having said that Lesnar is a massive dude and may prove to be the best ever.

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